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Cybernetic System to Allow Physical Interaction
Ant writes "Wired News reports researchers have developed a cybernetic system to allow physical interaction over the Internet. The system allows touching and feeling of animals or other humans in real time, but it's first being tried out on -- chickens. The Touchy Internet Built was by a wacky group of researchers at the Mixed Reality Lab at the National University of Singapore (NUS)."
Researchers ... are cybering... chickens??? Thank god the DARPA money is going to the right things.
I already interact with myself while I watch cyber girls on my computer. Man, this ain't news!
Dunno if I'd go that far...
Physical interaction with humans over the internet? This sounds like many a Slashdot reader's idea of a wet dream.
When showcased at the Version 05 arts festival in Chicago, viewers suggested using the system for internet sex. Experts dismiss the whole idea as silly.
"Current haptic displays typically allow a user to interact with a virtual or remote environment through a tool," says Allison M. Okamura, an assistant professor of mechanical engineering at Johns Hopkins University. "Hence, the systems feel like you are poking at the world through a stick. A major challenge is providing the user with more delicate tactile sensations, such as feeling that occurs when one draws her finger over a rough or smooth surface. This kind of realism is difficult to achieve."
You want a handjob from a chicken or you want to give a handjob to a chicken?
Either way, the term "choking the chicken" takes on a whole, new meaning.
"I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey
Who wants to touch someone's cock online?
God spoke to me.
Having tired of my favoritest pass time on the internet - hunting live animals with a remote control rifle...
I can now indulge my 2nd favorite over the internet: feeling chickens.
I can hear my non-nerd friend now: "But why don't you get a real chicken to feel?"
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Some doctors are already using robots remotely to diagnose patients... In Alaskan remote communities, something like this can eventually provide remote robotic surgery with sensory feedback...
I WILL PAY!!!! this would revolutionize the internet in ways never seen before
This brings a whole new meaning to kicking someone off an IRC channel.
All of this just means they need to give the technology to the porn industry. They'll have it suitable for online sex in no time, and charge an arm and a leg for it. Or, if they can't get it beyond "poking people with sticks," they'll just open up an S&M site with it.
All they're doing is turning on a motor at the press of a button. The motor is in a jacket they put on the chickens. The button is in a replica chicken in another location.
Please tell how this is anymore cybernetic than a telephone!
You could start here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Cybernetics
just combine it with the hi-def web cast and we'll have adult entertainment all over it's ass, literally
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...'new'?
There have been 2-way haptic feedback systems since the early 90's (and probably before that but I am not personally aware of them.)
I personally used a 20+ sensor cyberglove on an SGI IR that was networked to another modified cyberglove in order to transmit tactile response both to and from the target (in this case a rubber ball.) That was in 1997.
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Is this a *new* idea? Hardly.
http://www.fu-fme.com/ (humor)
http://www.sinulator.com/ (real)
So I guess the next logical step was a chicken. I think these guys have spent too much time on a farm.
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He's actually trying to be constructive.
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you /. one of these devices?
Can't help but envision the future where your touch device is something you can have groups of people collaborating in all at once.
Porn aside, since human touch can be one of the most positive feelings, maybe this will have a good impact on society.
Now que in the "rub and tug" jokes.
So they've managed to wire up a force-feedback VR system that can transmit IP packets. All things considered, I'm more amazed that this is even interesting, in this day and age. Given the usual speed of technological development, VR should be about at the point of regular home-use. We should be seeing virtual TV remotes inside of datagloves or Internet commerce through meaningfully browsable stores. (Actually, that was tried at one point. Not very successful, but the bandwidth really wasn't there.)
In other words, we should be a bit beyond the chicken stage.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
So does this mean I can choke a chicken over the Internet now?
Not in California.
"I'm not impatient. I just hate waiting." - My Dad
I just hope they're able to effectively keep hackers out. Imagine what a goatse troll could do if they were able to hack into a virtual sex session. Wow, that thought just made internet sex a lot less appealing.
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The chickens are already cybernetic.
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I personally used a 20+ sensor cyberglove on an SGI IR
Yeah, but did you use it on a chicken? I think all of you naysayers are missing the truly original, patent worthy use of this technology "...on a chicken".
I'm going to invent reading email "...on a chicken".
This means that eventually, I'll be able to watch two people from the internet actually fight! Though, you have to wonder, is the technology STRONG enough for that kind of tactile feedback?
Rock'em Sock'em Robots Online, anyone? Betcha I can make your head pop first!
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
It would only take them a minute or so of "feeling" before they determined I'm not attractively shaped. Mental image kicks in, modem kicks off.
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All that time and money down the drain when we could have found out what yoda and chewbacca smelled like. Touch technology ... ridiculous.
http://fu-fme.com/
Oh the golden days of the 'net are brought to fruition!
... viewers suggested using the system for internet sex. Experts dismiss the whole idea as silly.
Partly becasue it was a debasement of technology, but mostly because they never got invited to those sorts of parties.
I highly recommend that you check out Ray Kurzweil's The Age of Spiritual Machines published by Penguin Putnam in 2000...
I read the book for a paper in a class I took with Dr. Foerst of MIT AI lab fame...
Anyway, as I recall, Kurzweil goes into a lengthy discussion of nanobots that would totally enable a level of virtual-reality interaction with other humans... He discussed a whole new level of cyber-sex encompassing all the tactile sensation without the STD's.
Seriously, check it out, it will make you think!
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[...] Experts dismiss the whole idea as silly. [...]
I wonder what sort of experts these are ... pr0n experts? technology experts? WTF?
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No, I haven't RTFA.
choke the chicken....
I disagree. In another 10 or 15 years your going to be looking back on todays technology like we do NES. The reason it failed was because the technology *wasn't* there. The closest visually are still basic low-poly models relying heavily on texture mapping to provide the appearance of detail that just isn't there.
When you start treading VR waters I think you realize how quickly todays technology fails to fit the bill. Novel? Sure. Maybe even fun. But no-one is going to mistake a sweaty vinyl glove and some hot, neck wrenching, low-res goggle for "virtual reality".
Reality contains a lot more physical feed-back then we are currently capable of reproducing. Thats why VR has remained a tech-show novelty and not become the booming industry you'd like to see (and your not alone).
Quack, quack.
Because you have to wonder: how do the machines know what Tasty Wheat feels like? Maybe they got it wrong. Maybe what I think Tasty Wheat feels like actually feels like oatmeal, or tuna fish. That makes you wonder about a lot of things. You take chicken, for example: maybe they couldn't figure out what to make chicken feel like, which is why chicken feels like everything.
"Nobody writes jokes in base 13." - Douglas Adams
The idea is not new, and there is even an open source application (and as an open source developer, let me say: it's about time that we can touch each other without proprietary protocols).
that could have been a good poll
what would you like to interact with?
1) breasts
2) breasts
3) breasts
4) breasts
5) breasts
6) Cmdr Taco breasts
People will pass up steak once a week, for crap every day.
You do realise that some ingenious pr0n site is going to come up with a system where they work out every touch sensation that could possibly happen with, say, a pornstar, and write a program that distributes those sensation signals to your suit based on where your hand is... kind of like, a blind man having sex with an inflatable doll, thinking it's a real girl. And then someone will rip the idea off and distribute it for free....
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