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Nintendogs Pummels Sony Products

Gamespot has the news that the hit DS title Nintendogs has allowed the Nintendo DS to pull ahead of the PSP and PS2 consoles for over a month straight. In the week Nintendogs was launched, the DS outsold the PSP and PS2 combined in the nation of Japan. Several weeks after its initial launch, the DS is still outselling the PSP by 5,000-sum units. Those of us in the states still have a little while to wait to see the cuteness firsthand. From the article: "The game is sold in different editions, each housing roughly five types of puppies, from Chihuahuas to Labrador retrievers. As a virtual owner, gamers will pet their pooches using the stylus, order commands through the integrated microphone, and let their canines sniff other gamers' Nintendogs wirelessly. Nintendogs is scheduled to roll over to the US on August 22."

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  1. But who buys it? by Dogers · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This months Edge has a fact that the Japanese "teeny boppers" control fads out there..

    If 5% of them buy it, then another 60% will within a month, or something to that effect!

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    1. Re:But who buys it? by Doomstalk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's what we call a killer app. Even if the fad dies away, they've still sold a lot of games and, more importantly, A LOT of hardware. If they've got the system, they're that much more likely to try and get their money's worth by buying more games. Furthermore, it makes the DS that much more appealing of a platform, since it's got a massive installed base. Case and point, look at the original Gameboy: they hooked people with Tetris and (much later) Pokemon, and then from there they just kept buying games. It also proves Nintendo's point about grabbing non-traditional gamers. There's a huge untapped market out there that's willing to try games, but just doesn't like stuff like GTA and Doom 3. If you can grab them, you're poised to make a lot of money - more than you could ever make with just the hardcore gamer crowd, which is miniscule compared to, say, the portion of the population that buys CDs, or goes to movies.

  2. Soooo... by igrp · · Score: 2, Informative
    ... in essence, it's a next-generation, WiFi-enabled tamagotchi, right?

    The screenshots (GIS) sure look interesting though. Very clean, polished PDA-like interface that sort of reminds me of an 'OS X' application. I thought they would market a game like this towards a younger target demograhic (ie. kids ages 4-14) but, judging from the UI, it doesn't appear the case.

    1. Re:Soooo... by bersl2 · · Score: 1

      Unlike the Tamagotchi, I believe you can actually turn this one off.

    2. Re:Soooo... by pthor1231 · · Score: 1

      Thats exactly what I was thinking the instant I read the article (in ref to tamagotchi). Sorta makes me thing of this PA comic too.

  3. wait a second?!?!? by LewieP · · Score: 2, Funny

    so nintendo =/= teh d00m3d?!?!

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  4. You have to give Nintendo credit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    Truly you have to give Nintendo credit because they really know how to produce a fad that will sell based of off it's 'cuteness' and originality alone. Let's face it, Pokemon as a game wasn't all that new of a concept (basically it was just an RPG) but because of how cute and marketable it was Nintendo was able to warp Millions of unsuspecting tweens.

    Nintendogs on it's own has the potential to match the sales of Pokemon mainly because it can attract both the 'tween' market that Pokemon sold to and at the same time can attract people who aren't currently gamers. Personally, I have shown off Nintendogs (movies, obviously don't have the game) to several 20-something women (who aren't typically interested in videogames) and they were instantly interested in the game.

    Maybe I should buy it so that I can pick up women easier ... On the other hand, nothing will help me pick up women easier :(

    1. Re:You have to give Nintendo credit by Xaroth · · Score: 1

      Ah yes. Originality. Just like this!

      Or maybe this!

      Or in a weird way, this!

      Or Will Wright's this!

      Or maybe even millions of these!

      :P

      I'll agree with Nintendo playing on the cuteness bit, but to be honest, games that are more or less exactly like this have been produced for years. It's certainly nice that at least ONE console gaming company puts a modicum of effort into reaching the other 50% of the world out there.

    2. Re:You have to give Nintendo credit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, you just have to play it before you embarassingly call it's old.

      Who the hell can tell Catz, Black&White and Sims are the same games as nintendogs...? At least the first impressions of these games you picked were 'disgusting', while nintendogs got 'too cute to regist' impression from me. Maybe tamagotch and aquarium are closer but nintendogs is clearly far advanced to those.

    3. Re:You have to give Nintendo credit by MilenCent · · Score: 1

      The only one of those I'm prepared to grant you is Petz, and it was hampered by the fact that there wasn't really all that much you could *do* with your pet. I had Catz for a while, long ago, and it got old fast. Nintendogs looks like it'll last longer, in that you can actually take your dog for walks and enter him into dog shows. In short, it has game-like challenge elements, instead of just being a virtual space in which you play with a virtual animal.

  5. Three words by Eil · · Score: 1


    Very expensive Tamagotchi.

    1. Re:Three words by MK-LINX · · Score: 1

      Nintendogs, like Pokemon, is gunning for global domination. After its release in Japan it got a perfect 40/40 in Japanese games mag Weekly Famitsu and sold more than 100,000 copies in three days. This kind of stuff doesnt happen to agame thats just a daft Tamagotchi rip off. This only happens to killer games and Nintendogs is just that. Its not a cute and fluffy poodle- it's a rabid German Shepherd dog thats going to take the games industry by the throat and shake it into submision.

    2. Re:Three words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sold like hotcake ...just like tamagotch.

  6. Tomagotchi by spencerogden · · Score: 1

    Didn't we already decide that tomagotchi's or whatever they were called are a waste of space? Only in Tokyo would feeding a virtual dog be considered entertainment.

    1. Re:Tomagotchi by theREALMcCoy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Apparently, most would disagree with you. The desire to be a virtual care taker, whether of a family unit (Sims), an empire (Civilization), or a Pet drives more game sales than any other genre.

    2. Re:Tomagotchi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seeing how poorly some people in real life treat their pets, I think this is a blessing. I'd rather someone abuse a virtual dog instead of a real one. :-(

    3. Re:Tomagotchi by MilenCent · · Score: 1

      Well, considering that you can teach your dogs tricks using the microphone, participate in various events with it, and allow multiple dogs to interact with each other in the same room, it's got a *bit* more going for it than a Tamagotchi. Tamagotchis are interesting in direct proportion to what the pet itself is capable of. Word is, they've actually done a pretty good job of modelling dog behavior, though I'm sure it's not perfect. (And the tricks seems to be hardcoded into the system, though there are a large number of them, I'm guessing you can't turn any ol' piece of dog behavior into a new trick.)

    4. Re:Tomagotchi by Stolethis · · Score: 1

      I can't say the Sims is that diffrent, but Civilization is a strategy game. It is in a whole diffrent league. It has some good simulation elements, but it is pretty much just a really nice strategy game with a turn based system.

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  7. Nintendogs? by Momoru · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Can they really prove its Nintendogs that is causing this? Maybe just the initial excitement of PSP has worn off (or everyone that wanted one got one), and Nintendo just rose back to the top in the handheld console world.

    1. Re:Nintendogs? by theREALMcCoy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Very good point. This last week, Nintendogs didn't even make it into the top ten in Japan. A Gundam game and a puzzle/quiz game did.
      http://www.nintendojo.com/infocus/view_item.php?11 17771961

    2. Re:Nintendogs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DS sales more than quadrupled in the week Nintendogs was released. PSP and PS2 sales also increased that week, but nowhere near as much as DS sales. In the weeks that followed, DS sales were still much higher than they were before the game's release. PSP sales have not significantly decreased in the same time period. It's safe to say that Nintendogs is a major system seller.

    3. Re:Nintendogs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sales for each individual copy of Nintendogs (the three versions) are tallied separately. The three together still sold over 20,000 copies this week, if memory serves.

      Put another way, the week that Nintendogs came out, the sales of DS were almost triple of the PSPs, and more than every single other console in Japan COMBINED.

    4. Re:Nintendogs? by Apreche · · Score: 1

      Yes, yes they can. Remember, we're talking about Japan here. Where in the US something like Katamari or Nintendogs will be a cult hit by people who can get over themselves and enjoy something that is fun. In Japan people go crazy for it and buy a zillion copies. Why do you think japanese culture is becoming the awesome stuff that US geeks love?

      I predict that Nintendogs will sell well to people in the US, but only to people who wouldn't be embarassed to be caught playing it.

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    5. Re:Nintendogs? by amliebsch · · Score: 1
      Why do you think japanese culture is becoming the awesome stuff that US geeks love?

      Because geeks have questionable taste?

      In all seriousness, my theory is that the reason that geeks are disproportionately attracted to Japanese popular culture is that Japanese popular culture is uniquely insular; by that I mean, more of it is designed to consumed alone, in private. Typical American games, by contrast, are more often designed to be played socially, with a group of friends, while hanging out together or as part of an online community.

      As for this game, I can see why this would be attractive to people that can't afford/don't have the room for a real pet. But it seems...a little creepy...for people to start substituting inferior virtual representations of real-life things that are easily achievable to them. Maybe that's why these games come off as juvenile in the United States. If you buy this game when you could have a real dog, it makes you appear as incapable or unwilling to take on the responsibility or make the commitment or a real pet.

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    6. Re:Nintendogs? by Apreche · · Score: 1

      GTA the most american game there is is the most single player game there is.

      Nintendogs is a wireless multiplayer game. In fact, most nintendo games are social experiences, mario party, mario tennis, FF:CC, four swords. Playstation and XBoX seem to have the single player games like the RPGs and the 3d platform shooters and such. And Nintendo is more popular in japan.

      Your point has much merit, but not in this case.

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    7. Re:Nintendogs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you think japanese culture is becoming the awesome stuff that US geeks love?

      Robotech, mainly. Nerds in their late 20's grew up with it on saturday mornings. It in turn spawned a slew of giant robot shows and toys, mostly imported from Japan. The rebroadcasts of it on Cartoon Network set up the tidal wave of Toonami that now infests the airwaves.

      I'd also point to a non-Japanese source in the TMNT graphic novels.

      That being said, nerds feel out of place in American society so they fool themselves into thinking that their toy and cartoon fetishes are actually cool in the mysterious east.

    8. Re:Nintendogs? by MilenCent · · Score: 1

      Nintendogs' success came beginning the week of April 18th, the same week DS sales spiked. It was the #4, #5 and #6 game, among all games sold in Japan, for that week. It seems fairly likely that Nintendogs was behind the DS' success.

      The DS' continued sales lead over the PSP is probably due, mostly, to other things. That "quiz game" mentioned is actually Work Your Brain, which is based off of a self-help book and is intended as a sort of IQ-raising training program. Something I, myself, would like to play around with one day if they make an English version.

      It's also possible that they've established positive momentum after Nintendogs, that is to say, that the buzz has shifted back into Nintendo's court. Time will tell.

    9. Re:Nintendogs? by Zangief · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you look at the list of the 50 top games, you will see that one of the three Nintendogs titles is number 11. If you combine the sales of the three packs, Nintendogs is number 6 or something.

      Fear the power of the poochie!!

    10. Re:Nintendogs? by DeadScreenSky · · Score: 2, Insightful

      GTA the most american game there is is the most single player game there is.
      Um, shouldn't "the most american game" out there at least be made by Americans?

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    11. Re:Nintendogs? by Grey+Ninja · · Score: 1

      I've heard that Nintendogs got a perfect score in Famitsu. I only know of 4 other games that accomplished such a feat. (Soul Calibur, Vagrant Story, Zelda: OoT, and Zelda: WW). Perfect scores just aren't that easy to come by.

    12. Re:Nintendogs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      my theory is that the reason that geeks are disproportionately attracted to Japanese popular culture is that Japanese popular culture is uniquely insular; by that I mean, more of it is designed to consumed alone, in private. Typical American games, by contrast, are more often designed to be played socially, with a group of friends, while hanging out together or as part of an online community.

      True. Those no-friend Japanese would never come up with a concept like Legend of Zelda: Four Swords. Or Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles. Or Mario Party. You can tell they hate multiplayer games just from the way both the PSP and the DS have made a huge deal out of their wireless multiplayer functions. And nobody in Japan plays MMORPGs like Final Fantasy XI or Ragnarok Online, whereas there isn't a single American who isn't an Everquest subscriber.

      Or maybe, just maybe, your generalisation doesn't actually bear any resemblance to the real world?

    13. Re:Nintendogs? by mink · · Score: 1

      Funny thing is that Americans form groups and band together to consume Japanese pop culture.

      Most people I know of who bought the virtual pet software like Catz and Dogz were adults.

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  8. Good to see Nintendo's strategy working by Andy_R · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While Microsoft and Sony are pouring billions into hardware, which they expect to lead to game sales, Nintendo keep on doing what they always have done, making games their first priority, and hardware second.

    Maybe Nintendogs is the next in the line of Pokemon/Zelda/Mario/Tetris, maybe it's not. The point is that Nintendo is putting it's effort into coming up with this stuff while the other 2 players are competing over how many extra polys they can render in their new WW2 FPS game.

    I can see Nintendo winning the next gen war by making a good, cheap console with great games that PS3 and Xbox360 owners buy as their second machine.

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    1. Re:Good to see Nintendo's strategy working by superpulpsicle · · Score: 1

      Yes Nintendo is software 1st, hardware 2nd. But their games are also Japan first, everybody else 2nd.

      How about a focus group research to see what people outside Japan really want to play. More than half their games are so anime-ish with a stronger appeal for kids than adult.

    2. Re:Good to see Nintendo's strategy working by amliebsch · · Score: 1

      My thoughts exactly. My suspicion is that many Nintendo fanboys are actually just fans of Japanese popular culture, which Nintendo delivers more of than other consoles. What they sometimes may forget is that they are a decided minority, and that for people like myself, who are rather indifferent to Japanese popular culture, this emphasis can be a bug, not a feature.

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    3. Re:Good to see Nintendo's strategy working by Phisbut · · Score: 3, Insightful
      How about a focus group research to see what people outside Japan really want to play.

      What I'd actually like to see is more japanese games being released outside of Japan. Japanese game designers have very, very weird ideas (think Katamari), and that's what makes a cool varied set of games. Unfortunately, only a small portion of those games ever get officially distributed out of Japan.

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    4. Re:Good to see Nintendo's strategy working by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd actually say that PS2 has the most anime-ish games of any of the consoles, with Xbox having the most American style, and Gamecube being not one nor the other. Outside of Wario Ware, Nintendogs, and a few of the new DS games, most of Nintendo's games are the same ones that have sold well in America for years (mario, zelda, metroid).

      Look at PS2 and you have Katamari, Disgeae, FF, and countless other anime style rpg's.

      Though I would love to see Nintendo focus more on new franchises that cater to the US and European markets. Even though I love their games and don't mind at all playing a "cute" game, I'd rather see them stick around for years buying selling more mainstream (in the US) games.

    5. Re:Good to see Nintendo's strategy working by jensen404 · · Score: 1

      The only place Nintendo has really been behind in hardware is using a cartridge for the n64.

      The gamecube has moderately lower specifications than the money losing Xbox, but it's best looking games, such as Metriod Prime, look better, IMO, than a game such as HALO.

      Nintendo has been the first in introducing most new controller features that and now standards. (d-pad, analog control stick, shoulder buttons, analog triggers, rumble, four controller ports)

      It does appear their hardware will be less powerfull this coming generation, though. (based on the very small size of the console)

    6. Re:Good to see Nintendo's strategy working by brkello · · Score: 1

      What in the world are you talking about? I hardly think that Nintendo puts games first and hardware second. They consistantly put out quality hardware. And as far as Nintendo putting effort in to games while MS and Sony are not is a fairly ridiculous statement. Sony and MS are not in the business of making games like Nintendo is. Sure, there are some games with MS on it, but they are just companies that they bought. I want Sony and MS to put their focus on hardware, that is all they have to freaking concentrate on. Let the game companies concentrate on making good games. I doubt Nintendo will come out on top as far as sold units go. But they will make more profit and still exist...so things will be just fine. I am not sure if I am the only one that thinks this, but Nintendogs looks really boring to me. But it would be amusing to call it the Halo killer that brings people to Nintendo :P

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    7. Re:Good to see Nintendo's strategy working by Stolethis · · Score: 1

      When you buy a Gamecube, what games do you want? Metroid, Mario, and Zelda. All first party games. A PS2? Grand Theft Auto, Final Fantasy, Gran Tourismo. An Xbox? KOTOR, Halo, and Fable. With the arguable exception of Halo, all third party.

      Nintendo knows the best games on their system are going to be their own, so they make their hardware cheap and simple and move on to the games. Playstations and Xboxes are sold because most of the great games from a lot of developers go there instead. So they make their systems into little supercomputers hoping that the developers will think the more capable system is more worth of their game. Sony and Microsoft don't come up with new stuff because they have more than enough people to do if for them.

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    8. Re:Good to see Nintendo's strategy working by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      When you buy a Gamecube, what games do you want? Metroid, Mario, and Zelda. All first party games. A PS2? Grand Theft Auto, Final Fantasy, Gran Tourismo. An Xbox? KOTOR, Halo, and Fable. With the arguable exception of Halo, all third party.

      and the not-arguable other exception of Gran Turismo, which is a SCEI first-party title.
  9. Way to early to call this race by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1
    I just checked out Nintendo's game list for the DS, and it only has like 26 games currently available (though it has about 100 announced), and the PSP only has 32 currently available, with only 9 other games announced. This doesn't take into account the quality of any of the games.

    The only advantage I can see going for the DS right now is the fact that you can play a huge catalog of GBA games. But if you're going to do that, why not just get a used GBA SP and save $90? I'm sure they will go back in forth, both with huge releases in the coming months. It won't be for a year or so that we see either one emerge as the true "winner".

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    1. Re:Way to early to call this race by Daetrin · · Score: 2, Insightful
      But if you're going to do that, why not just get a used GBA SP and save $90?

      Because then you wouldn't be able to play DS games _or_ PSP games? If you're looking at it from the perspective of which next-gen handheld to get the presence of GBA games on the DS is motivation to get a DS rather than a PSP, not a motivation to get neither.

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    2. Re:Way to early to call this race by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      So, with only 9 more games coming does that mean the PSP has no future?

      I suppose you could always buy your movies all over again on the foolish UMD format, but those aren't games.

    3. Re:Way to early to call this race by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you played a Final Fantasy game?

      Not much difference between that and a movie...

    4. Re:Way to early to call this race by deinol · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This doesn't take into account the quality of any of the games.

      And quality is where it really matters. There are a ton more games for the PS2 than the GameCube. But I buy about the same ammount of both. So far, there have been several titles that have tempted me to pick up a DS, but nothing at all to make me even look at the PSP. So often people buy a console for a single game they like, then look around at the others once they have it.

      Personally, I like supporting a variety of consoles. Having several big companies vying for my attention means a larger variety of titles for me to choose from.

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    5. Re:Way to early to call this race by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "But if you're going to do that, why not just get a used GBA SP and save $90?"

      Because I'd like to play Nintendogs and I can't do that on an SP or a PSP?

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    6. Re:Way to early to call this race by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      100???? to 9????

      *doubletake*

      100????? to 9??????

      I knew the third party support for the PSP was pretty shitty, but I didn't know it was THAT shitty.

    7. Re:Way to early to call this race by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol can you even call it a race if one of the racers is missing a leg?

    8. Re:Way to early to call this race by Spoobis · · Score: 1

      actually the diffence between a used sp and a ds is $50 at least at gamestop. used psps are like $199 its not even a race. i am sure nintendo profits from every unit sold and sony lose a bit of cash. Making up for it with umd movie sales and such.

    9. Re:Way to early to call this race by apoc06 · · Score: 1

      hold on, check the facts.

      with a slight bit of googling, i found this one article in particular that mentions that capcom [a major third party publisher] is planning to release 10 games for psp and only 2 for ds in the next year.

      http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/01/news_61267 08.html

      only 9 for psp? just this one publishers' plans engulfs that number. add that to other developers release schedules and you break well ahead of '9' games in development. look at any major console videogaming site, you will see that there are more than just 9 psp previews. where did the nine come from from? he needs to recheck his source.

    10. Re:Way to early to call this race by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      If you clicked on the link I provided in my comment ON SONY'S PSP WEB SITE, you would see that there are only 9 titles listed in future releases. That doesn't mean there aren't others, only that those are what Sony has listed on their web site.

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    11. Re:Way to early to call this race by apoc06 · · Score: 1

      looking at the links again, you are correct. however, the link you provided for upcoming sony games only lists upcoming games being released only in the next THREE months. on the other hand the list you provide for the ds lists ALL games. combining those that have already been released with those that are tentative. more than half of the DS list includes games that have just been "announced" [meaning that work may not have even begun].

      overall, id say that the lists are pretty much equal with the psp having an advantage of more games already released. however, given the backwards compatibility of the ds, those that have them arent exactly at a loss for titles to play.

  10. Wonder if the PSP will be helped by Bloomy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    by the release of porn on UMD.

    1. Re:Wonder if the PSP will be helped by Babbster · · Score: 1

      God, I hope not. It's creepy enough seeing some guy touching the OUTSIDE of his pants in public...

  11. "Those of us in the states" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Those of us in the states still have a little while to wait"
    Ah yes, I keep forgetting that the states is the only other country in the world besides Japan....
    How difficult would "Those of us outside Japan..." have been?

    1. Re:"Those of us in the states" by theREALMcCoy · · Score: 1

      My god...

      Does every one in the frickin' world have a chip on their shoulder. It was an article directed toward those in the States!

  12. Where is the basis for comparison? by LunchTableGoat · · Score: 0

    This is like comparing apples to premature apples and very old oranges.

    The PSP has a release date of September 1 in Europe, This obviously skews the number of units sold in comparison to the DS that is available worldwide.

    AND the PS2 is more than half a decade old almost everyone who has ever wanted one has one now. Of course the number being purchased is going to decline, it's called the end of the life cycle.

    1. Re:Where is the basis for comparison? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do European sales have to do with sales in Japan? This is not a story about worldwide sales, particularly since Nintendogs is only available in Japan right now. Also, if you look at the actual numbers, PS2 sales continue to be in the same range as PSP and DS sales even now, barring the week in question.

    2. Re:Where is the basis for comparison? by nukem1999 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The PSP has a release date of September 1 in Europe, This obviously skews the number of units sold in comparison to the DS that is available worldwide.
      Except that the article only used sales figures for Japan.
      AND the PS2 is more than half a decade old almost everyone who has ever wanted one has one now.
      Again, read the article. For the time periods referenced, the PS2 sold very closely to the PSP. Out of the three weeks they gave actual numbers for, PS2 outsold PSP on two of them. So, while it might have been better to summarize saying that the DS sold at more than twice the rate of the PSPs, mentioning the PS2 was very valid.

    3. Re:Where is the basis for comparison? by KingHippo2600 · · Score: 0

      You're not taking into consideration the PS2's tendancy to break...

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    4. Re:Where is the basis for comparison? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      please RTFA, thank you.

    5. Re:Where is the basis for comparison? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>
      AND the PS2 is more than half a decade old almost everyone who has ever wanted one has one now. Of course the number being purchased is going to decline, it's called the end of the life cycle.
      >>

      that's horseshit. i was pretty sure all the ps3 fanboys are on the defensive about microsoft launching a new console too early beause the ps2 was "in it's prime".

  13. this is exactly what Nintendo is hoping for. by LordZardoz · · Score: 1

    Games that have great appeal and will sell huge amounts of units that cannot be replicated on a PSP.

    Obviously, this is not for typical hard core gamers, but I dont think Nintendo much cares if its getting its money from a 19 year old acne ridden starwars geek or a 32 year old soccer mom.

    This game probably wont do quite as well in North America, however. It will do quite well if Nintendo can get demo units exposed to the kind of gamer that would buy it.

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    1. Re:this is exactly what Nintendo is hoping for. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dunno. Other Japanese fads have taken off in the US, albeit not to the same extent as in Japan. Karaoke, Tamagotchi, Pokemon, Dance Dance Revolution are all good examples of Japanese fads that have had widespread success in the US. Nintendogs might stand a pretty good chance.

  14. DS may win the battle but will lose the War by aka_big_wurm · · Score: 1

    The PSP just needs a killer app and it would easly take the lead. Looks dont make games but it sure helps alot - the PSP hands down the games look better. The DS is not taking advange of its hardware. Where is the DS verson of Bejewled or all those other puzzle games that most people play. The DS could also make some nice RTS game or a real verson of the Sims and Simcity.

    1. Re:DS may win the battle but will lose the War by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Killer app or not, I can still buy a DS + 2 games for the price of the PSP + no games.

      I can't wait to see what happens if Zelda gets a DS release...

    2. Re:DS may win the battle but will lose the War by Strell · · Score: 1

      Bejeweled = Zookeeper As for killer apps, the PSP has GTA on the way. After that I can't think of another killer app, unless a Final Fantasy game (not UMD movie) is in the works. Meanwhile, DS has Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, Castlevania, Metroid:Hunters, Zelda DS, Viewtiful Joe DS, Meteos, Nintendogs, Mario DS, Sonic Rush....the list is pretty extensive. The portable war will be interesting when GBA2 drops. I'm curious about how Nintendo plans to deal with that. Originally their stance on the DS was very iffy and executives were quoted as saying "If even 10% of the market buys it, we'll be happy." GBA makes for 100+ million worldwide, so with the DS reaching past 5 million, I'm curious if they think they will exceed that goal, especially given that the thing is only 6 months old. And yes, people, for the umpteenth time, the DS != GBA2. GBA2 is a separate system, and again, I'm really anxious to see how they'll market it.

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    3. Re:DS may win the battle but will lose the War by theREALMcCoy · · Score: 1

      I agree completely. I see no killer apps for the PSP on the horizon. Not even GTA. The thing is, why would a developer pour millions into creating a high quality PSP game, when they could direct those dollars (or Yen as the case may be) to creating a quality PS2 or PS3 game that will assuradly sell. It just costs too much to create a flashy game for PSP.
      On the other hand, the DS can provide a great gaming experience with substantially lower dev costs.

    4. Re:DS may win the battle but will lose the War by tepples · · Score: 1

      As for killer apps, the PSP has GTA on the way. After that I can't think of another killer app

      Lumines.

    5. Re:DS may win the battle but will lose the War by rohlfinator · · Score: 1

      You could probably buy a DS with 3 games for the price of a PSP, since DS games tend to fall around the $30-35 price range. And Zelda is confirmed to be in development for the DS.

  15. This is classic Nintendo by fwitness · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry but this game just looks like fun. Yeah, it's a tamagotchi, and that's girly-cute and been done before. As a gamer, I should of course shun it at all costs and go buy the next truly innovative FPS that allows you pick your nose with realistic booger textures.

    Sorry, but I'm in it for the game, and the fun of it. I'm sure I'll have to purchase another copy just for the girl. Maybe get her one of those nifty new electric blue DSes

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    1. Re:This is classic Nintendo by owyn999 · · Score: 1

      OOOOHHHH loook a "Fan-Fucking-tastic" scardey shit... worried about his Karma Rating maybe you shouldn't use your catch pharse coward... Get over yourself and go back to Trolling...

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    2. Re:This is classic Nintendo by Quill · · Score: 1

      electric blue DSes

      Sonofabitch. That's what I get for being an early adopter.

      Although, maybe me girlfriend would want one, especially if Nintendogs has any multiplayer.

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    3. Re:This is classic Nintendo by Quill · · Score: 1

      Actually, I'd pickup Nintendaquarium pretty quickly I'd bet. I love the El-Fish type of games.

      Come to think of it, if cats and dogs could interact wirelessly, I might pick up Nintendacats and a second DS for my girlfriend.

      Awesome ideas! You should submit something to Nintendo.

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  16. Disappointing PSP sales by metamatic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Personally, I think the disappointing PSP sales have more to do with the fact that Sony seems to expect you to buy the thing without getting a chance to see it first.

    Nintendo has made sure there are DS systems in every major store, showing the latest games. I've yet to see a PSP at all; all the stores have tons of boxes sitting in locked display cases, but apparently Sony thinks people will drop $250 on a toy without seeing it first.

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    1. Re:Disappointing PSP sales by theREALMcCoy · · Score: 1

      These are Japanese numbers. Not US. They have demos in Japan

    2. Re:Disappointing PSP sales by nb+caffeine · · Score: 1

      At several places, ive asked if they have a demo of the PSP. There seems to be one floating around in every store, and they'll let you test it. My big question is if they will let you try the unit you are going to buy (no dead pixels please)

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    3. Re:Disappointing PSP sales by rohlfinator · · Score: 1

      There's a PSP playable at my local Best Buy, but that's the only one I've seen. It was tethered down with two big plastic bands covering 1/4 of the screen. The analog nub was completely broken off, and the screen was pretty scratched up. I started up the demo, but it took so long to load that I went to play Wario Ware Touched for a while. Needless to say, I wasn't too impressed by the hands-on. The graphics were nice, but the durability and loading times made it a pretty disappointing experience.

  17. That's crazy! by msuzio · · Score: 1

    Who would want to buy something like this...

    (Looks at screen shots)

    OMG! Puppies! Cute!

    OK, maybe I can understand the appeal of this to crazy dog people like me. Darn it, now I'm pondering getting a DS.

    1. Re:That's crazy! by Daetrin · · Score: 1
      OK, maybe I can understand the appeal of this to crazy dog people like me.

      I think it's a silly game! I'm holding out until they release Nintencats :)

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  18. Huuzah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wasn't jerking off in public, officer. I swear. It's a game. See? Here, it says Sony on it. See? See?

  19. It's an improvement! by sneakers563 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Still, it's a step up over a real cat.

    1. Re:It's an improvement! by tktk · · Score: 4, Funny
      It'd be simple to make a NintenCats.

      Change the dog graphics to cats, and then turn off the responses to any inputs.

  20. Nintendo DS vs Sony PSP by alias420 · · Score: 1

    This fight has been discussed tons over at PSP Hacks in their forums. They are obviously biased to the PSP but some good points have been made.

  21. Re:Britney says preggers sex is "crazy good" by ZosX · · Score: 1

    And this is news for nerds how?

  22. I love how... by satoshi1 · · Score: 1

    I love how this post (and other pro-Nintendo posts) bring out the anti-Nintendo fanboys in SWARMS. It's hilarious to see them all get upset at Nintendo for doing so well. I love it.

    I've been watching this game very closely for a few months now. At first I was thought it wouldn't be all that great, but after reading about it, watching videos, and viewing images, I'm psyched.

    1. Re:I love how... by Juanvaldes · · Score: 1

      You know right now I'd say the Pro-N fans are outnumbering the Anti-N. Anyway I still think this game is not my cup of tea but then I realized this would be a great way to distract my girlfriend from wanting a cat.

      Sure hope I'm not getting myself in too deep. Men, wish me luck.

  23. Re:Itchy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I too like to use the stylus to scratch your anus.

  24. An alternate theory of Nintendo fanboys by JimTheta · · Score: 1

    My suspicion is that many Nintendo fanboys are actually just fans of Japanese popular culture

    Well, some might call me a Nintendo fanboy (though not a frothing blind one) and I hate anime and manga.

    I find that I stick by Nintendo because they have a track record of making solid games, innovating genres, and not disappointing me. I think the only games that I mourn not being able to play are GTA and Katamari Damancy.

    If I was a sports gamer or FPS fan, I might have a different opinion, but those genres don't interest me. I'm guessing many Nintendo fans may have this in common (perhaps because fans of these genres have long left Nintendo).

  25. whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What works in Japan does not always work in the US.

    We have yet to pickup on the trendy tentacle sex phenom that has been sweeping the isle of japan for years.

    Of course we are all just waiting for tentacle sex on a handheld branded by Nintendo...

  26. Unbelievably cute game by ylsul · · Score: 4, Informative

    Check out this little flash presentation...

    http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/nintendogs.p hp

    Sooo cuuuttte :)

    1. Re:Unbelievably cute game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Excuse me while I puke...

  27. One Word... KAWAIIIIII!! by eamonman · · Score: 1

    I love games. I'm a typical guy (prefer dogs over cats). And Nintendogs (to say this in the most non-girly way) is uber-cute. What else do I need to buy the DS + ND? ;P But actually I think it's pretty cool from the AI/realism standpoint. Check out the flash movie of it. Even if you hate dogs or tamagotchi or pocket monsters, you have to admit they simulated the dogs darn well. They jump, run, twitch, wag, and bark very convincingly. I'll most likely get it, even though I might not buy many other DS games.

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  28. Strange by theantipop · · Score: 2, Funny
    ...order commands through the integrated microphone...
    I'd like to meet the person yelling things like "sit!" and "don't pee on the carpet!" at their DS while walking around town.
  29. sample video by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 1

    Here's some video of Nintendogs in action. Umm, for some reason I don't think this is going to go over well in the US market.

  30. zerg by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 1

    Eh, I'm more interested in "DS Training For Adults: Work Your Brain"... I hope it comes out in the US.

    Here is where I first heard of it...

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  31. This is one of those games... by wheresdrew · · Score: 4, Informative
    ...where "you have to play it to 'get it'" isn't much of an exaggeration.

    On the surface, it's nothing more than an advanced Tamagotchi (which, by the way, are still on sale in Japan and still very, very popular with younger - under 10 - kids), but the more you play it, the more you can see how much work went into it.

    I picked it up right around the time it came out, and really got into it. I bought it on a lark, and was surprised how much I liked it. You do the basic pet owner stuff - walk your dog, teach it tricks, feed it, bathe it, play fetch, etc. - as well as enter it in dog shows, frisbee contests and athletic tournaments (an obstacle course kind of thing). Winning competitions earns you cash that you can use to buy more stuff for your dog (toys, food, collars), upgrade your apartment or even get more dogs. (You can have up to three dogs at once.)

    What makes the game work is how well everything is dog. The animation is very fluid and natural. The AI is done well, and different dogs seem to have different personalities. My dog (a Shiba Inu named "Sushi" ^.^) likes to play with a lot of his toys and will chase them all over the apartment or bound around the park when I take him outside to play. However, there's one he seems to be scared of. It's a squeaky ball that makes noise when it bounces. He growls and yips at it, but won't go near it. I've talked to other people who have the same toy, and their dogs all love it. Sure, it could just be that my dog has one line of code (hate ball = yes) that set up this behavior, but it seems very realistic when you see it in action.

    So while it's easy to dismiss the game as yet another virtual pet, there's a lot more going on under the hood than has been done in the past. I'm not sure how well it'll do in the US, but I'm sure it's got a market there.

    And as for the DS sales surging when Nintendogs came out, I doubt it hurt that the Pink and Blue DSes were released on the same day that Nintendogs came out.

    1. Re:This is one of those games... by cafeman · · Score: 1

      What makes the game work is how well everything is dog.

      Must be good. The subliminal advertising seems to be working a treat. :)

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    2. Re:This is one of those games... by BenZoate · · Score: 1

      Dude, You must not have been in a Toys R Us lately..... we can't keep the Tamagotchi in stock. And wave 2 of the new Tamagotchi's are arriving in the next month or two. I laughed when we got them in , but now all the little girls and some gender confused boys want them, in all the colors.... I suggest you get out more.

    3. Re:This is one of those games... by wheresdrew · · Score: 1
      I get out plenty, just not in the US.

      But you're right, I haven't been in a TRU recently. I live in Tokyo and, as far as I know, there's only one here. Their prices on games are higher than most every other shop and they don't have a "loyalty card" that earns store credit with every purchase like the Japanese chains do. For my shopping needs, that makes them a serious non-contender.

      (In their defense, I did score a PSP from them on launch day last December - so they're occasionally useful.)

    4. Re:This is one of those games... by earthbound+kid · · Score: 1

      I had to go to TRU to pick up Electroplankton, since my normal store didn't have it. But yeah, they're seriously overpriced.

      Also, I've already sent two pink DSes to girls in America. I think a dude could make a decent business out of it, at least until the US version is released.

  32. The PSP is also a great console... by Zangief · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...for my Nintendog to POOP ON!!!

  33. Why is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If one of Sony's big games was killing the DS, would that be news too?

  34. Reminds me of a line: by Neuticle · · Score: 1

    In the movie "As Good as it Gets", Jack Nicholson plays a writer. Some fan comes up to him gushing about how well he portrays female characters, and asks him how he does it. His insta-classic response (Paraphrased as best as I remember it):

    "I think of a male, then I remove all reason and accountability"

    I nearly pissed myself laughing at that.

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  35. PSP by MozillaMike · · Score: 1

    Personally the problem with the release of the PSP is that everyone was fighting over the Xboxs and the Nitendo DS's this past christmas that people are just now receiving them from the over demand of them. This is probably why the PSP's release was not at a good time, with the picture Ipod and the Creative Zen Mp3 and various other media veiwing devices coming out at this time. The PSP's problem was just that it got drowned out by all the other tech. hubub out there and it's price tag isn't what people aren't wanting right now.

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  36. bullcrap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember reading about how the Japanese market was struggling and how sales have been slowing down in Japan and especially worldwide, Nintendodogs goes to show why. While this may be popular in Japan I'll bet there will be only little interest in US and Europe.
    There are also many reasons why I think the DS has been successful in Japan. The PS2 has a strong catalogue of RPG games in Japan and as Japan love this genre the Sony fanbois are still playing on these PS2's more than ever. These Sony fanbois are buying these PSP's as well so this means they have two consoles to buy for. For a Nintendo fanboy there is absolutly nothing out for the Cube, they've played through thier Resident Evil 4 (an amazing game) in 6 hours adn all they have to look forward to is Zelda. So I can understand why the DS is doing so well because this is the only machine that Nintendo fans are playing. The charts week in and week out prove this, the top 20 in Japan is dominated by PS2, there are a few PSP titles in there and a few more higher renking DS titles, while the cube games are rare.
    Both in the US and EU, PS2 games and Xbox games dominate, both DS and PSP game are rare, I think the highest rated DS title in the UK this wek was Need For Speed DS at #17. So I'm telling you that it seems thereis a lack of interest in PSP games when your wrong its due to the fact Sony fans like me are still on their PS2's. I have 5 PSP games and about 80% of my gaming time is spend on my PS2, I use the PSP when I'm about. And I bet in Japan they spend around 95% on their DS's and 5% on their cubes.
    Another fact is that the demand is extremely high all around the world, when you see Japan figure like, weekly PSP's sold 17,000, why do you think this? No its nothing to do with lack of interest, its due to the fact Sony can't build them fast enough. As soon Sony puts aload of PSP's on Japan's shelves, they take one turn and the shelve is empty. Sony is struggling to supply Japan and in US there is none. Its gonna be hard for them to have any for Europe in September and I don't think Sony will reach the 12 milion shipped PSP's at the end of the year as there hoping for. No doubt that eventually Sony will get 12 milion out there and then 20 million and then 30 million. So you lot can brag all you want about the success of a big faggots went dream you call Nintendodogs because I don't think Nintendo will ever reach 20 million as that figure is more than there are Nintendo fanbois and its only you nintendo fanbois that are buying these DS's.

  37. I would buy it.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if you could beat-off the dog.

    Red Rocket

  38. Nintendo selling games? who would have thought. by Spoobis · · Score: 1

    I am curtainly not surprised that Nintendo is doing well. I just traded my psp in for 2 DS units and some games. Very true there are more psp games out there but the fact of the matter is 99% of the just plain suck. Too darn easy to beat. how many racing games do you really need at launch? Nintendogs is a killer app sure but not THE killer app. actually you can take your pick. quite a few good games are coming down the pipe (first coming to my mind would be animal crossing). nintendo games are kind of like porn. You swear up and down to the world you dont play the games then in the middle of the night you crank up the old snes or whatever. dont worry psp will get its killer app with GTA. whenever that comes out I believe its been pushed back yet again dont quote me though.