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Atomic Clock Turns 50

karvind writes "BBC has an interesting story on the 50th birthday of atomic clocks. The first accurate caesium atomic clock was developed at the NPL in 1955 by Dr Louis Essen. And after 5 decades In September the US National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) used computer chip fabrication techniques to make a small atomic clock. The final development should see a battery-operated system about the size of a sugar lump. NIST also has a page on history of atomic clocks"

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  1. Yeah... by eurleif · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's a good thing we had atomic clocks so we could be sure it was really 50 years!

  2. Units of measure by Kirkoff · · Score: 3, Funny

    Lump of sugar has to be the oddest comparison ever...

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  3. Time by maelstrom · · Score: 3, Funny

    I used to be obsessed with accurate clocks, still am for my servers, but after awhile its all relative anyway ;)

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    1. Re:Time by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I used to tune in a shortwave time-signal station like WWV or CHU to carefully set my computers. Now, with Internet, they just automatically join the DDoS against TL time servers once a week.

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  4. Actually...... by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Funny

    The atomic clock turned 49.9999999999999999999999 today!

    Congratulations ;)

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  5. Lots depend on the clock now by esconsult1 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Official US time Clock

    It seems that more and more of everything is sync'd with this. My clock radio at home auto-updates, clock on the wall, the cellphones, my Linux and Mac PC's and cable box.

    Only thing left are the clocks with a single AA battery on the wall, and at some point they are going to use the pervasive WWVB time signal that is broadcast from Colorado and operated by the National Institute of Standards and Technology

    This technology has really come a long way and is deeply embedded within our lives. Especially if you consider that before the atomic clock, time varied considerably between different locales.

    1. Re:Lots depend on the clock now by interiot · · Score: 2, Informative

      Don't forget GPS... to measure distances with radio signals travelling at the speed of light, you need to have very accurate clocks to do the speed * time = distance calculations. Even the cheapest GPS unit is very very accurate, in that it directly syncronizes with the GPS atomic clocks.

    2. Re:Lots depend on the clock now by Tim+Browse · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Only thing left are the clocks with a single AA battery on the wall, and at some point they are going to use the pervasive

      Dude, that's so 5 years ago. I just bought a wall clock for my kitchen that takes an AA battery, and it syncs to the UK nuclear clock signal. It's great.

      Cost? 8 pounds.

      A similar clock in my living room does the same thing. The futar is here!

  6. It's been 50 years... by Alien+Venom · · Score: 2, Funny

    and we still don't have time travel. What a shame.

  7. They got it all wrong! by Psionicist · · Score: 5, Funny

    That article is not precise! The atomic clock is 50.00000100121412235901293409234 years old as I'm writing this.

  8. can you recall the scene ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Four scientists, as they flip the switch on their new invention ...

    #1: Gee, Ed, it looks like it works ...
    #2: Bob, you're right! It's counting! We did it!
    #1: It seems to be right on, let's fire up the chronotaph ...
    #3: Already there, Bob, I have a solid register, five-nines. I started the paper before you hit the button.
    #1: Good thinking, Stan. This is one for the record books!
    #2: This is a clock for your ass, Ed! I guess we should set it now.
    #4: Okay guys (looks at watch) what have you got? I'm showing a quarter past two.

  9. Re:It'll be interesting when.... by CastrTroy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There really is no market for atomic clocks. At best you will get devices that sync themselves to an atomic clock, that's located far away. Even people that do have pretty accurate clocks are always late. I find that in general, most people are late, and don't really worry too much about time in the first place. Really gets on my nerves, as i'm always on time, and always have to wait for someone.

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  10. Now we should all thank Dave Mills... by e9th · · Score: 3, Funny

    because without NTP, we might as well be using sundials.

  11. Setting the clock initially by xtapalapaquetl · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is a question that must get asked a lot, and I wasn't able to find an answer (casually searching) on the gov website.

    How did they figure out how to set the clock initially? Thanks.

    1. Re:Setting the clock initially by Smidge204 · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's like asking how does the "clock" in your computer get set to the right time. (Not the system clock, the crystal that generates the clock frequency the electronics operate off of).

      Atomic clocks just "tick", not display an actual time. They provide an extremely reliable and high frequency tick which makes them so valuable.
      =Smidge=

    2. Re:Setting the clock initially by prodangle · · Score: 3, Informative
      How did they figure out how to set the clock initially? Thanks.

      Atomic clocks count the number of vibrations within an atom, so know how much time has passed to a high degree of accuracy. Absolute time however, cannot really be known, as we have no reference point to measure it from (unless we find someone who has been counting since the big bang happened!).

      The standard day-to-day time system is UTC (rather mysteriously standing for Coordinated Universal Time) and it is based on the rotation of the earth. This is decided by the BIPM. As the length of a day is not precisely divisible by a second, leap seconds occasioanlly have to be added.

    3. Re:Setting the clock initially by fermion · · Score: 3, Informative
      Ok, there are two issues with clocks. The first is the length of certain interval of time, the other is exactly how we communicate that it is a certain time of day.

      Atomic clocks were primarily developed to deal with former, measuring the passage of time. This turns out to be a very important and difficult problem in all fields of science and engineering. The reason is that any error is measureing the passing of time will be amplified and make all other things very wrong.

      So, after using the sun, water, gears, and springs, someone finally figured out that if certain atoms were excited, they would vibrate very regularly. By counting the vibrations, we could measure the passage of time.

      Now, we don't measure time in vibrations of an atom. We measure the passage of time in seconds. So how long is a second? The hand waving definition is the second is 1/60 of a hour, and the hour is 1/24 of a day, so we count the vibrations over a day, then divide by 24, and divide again by 60, that is the vibrations in a second. Of course we have to decide how to measure a day without using a clock! This can be done, and after much argument, the scientist just give up and agree on thier best guess. The key thing is that everyone agrees on how many vibrations are in a second, so we are now able to say difinitively that something takes a second, or 10 seonds, or 100 seconds, or 1.2352 seconds.

      So, the measurement of the passing of time is important to science, and even important to the making sure that you don't spend an extra second in class or at work, but what does this have to do with your question, which is getting to work or class on time.

      Well, ultimately that is just a decision we make. There are standard clocks that measure time in universal time(UT), which used to called greenwich mean time(GMT). This time is adjusted geographically so that 8:00 am does occur in the middle of the night in the US. And that is they key. We set the time so that 8:00 am is in the morning, and 8:00 pm is always when most good children are in bed.

      How we set time, so to speak, was done by looking a the sun and the moon. You can in fact look up the data for sunrise and sunset in your area and set your clocks by this phenomemom. This is the same thing we do with calendars and seasons. Much is set around the longest and shortest days of the year. For instance, the day in which there is an equal amount of sunlight and darkness is called the equinox, and this day that occurs in the northern hemisphere, when the amount of daylight is icreasing, is curently called March 20 or 21, and is the first day of spring.

      It is interesting that that while we have had accurate clocks for a long time, that is we can accurately measure a second, syncronization has a been a problem. For years we have radio signals to synchronize enabled clocks, but now with the internet we can all be on the same time. Although for some reason some clocks are still set a few minutes off in either direction.

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    4. Re:Setting the clock initially by AFairlyNormalPerson · · Score: 3, Funny

      "How did they figure out how to set the clock initially? Thanks." They killed Christ. You're welcome.

  12. Strontium Clock by rakeem · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anyone see that article a couple of weeks ago in New Scientist about Strontium atoms held in standing waves generated by 6 lasers? Mental. A 50 time more accurate (or something).

  13. Re:Caesium? by poopdeville · · Score: 2, Informative

    In Latin, the AE is pronouned like an "ai" dipthong and c's are always hard consonants. So Caesar would be pronounced like "Kaiser" and by analogy Caesium would be pronounced "Kaisium."

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  14. I guess this is a good time to mention... by Ann+Elk · · Score: 5, Funny
  15. Atomic Clock Turns 50 by citking · · Score: 3, Funny
    Atomic Clock Turns 50

    Uh huh, that's what it wants us to think....

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  16. Re:It'll be interesting when.... by Webmoth · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I believe time travels slower at the equator than at the polls."

    I don't know about that. When I was standing in line at the polls back in November, time seemed to drag on. Now, afterwards, it's dragging on even longer while we here in Washington State are still wondering who our governor is.

    What's that? You meant poles? My mistake.

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  17. Re:Net data? by pyrrhonist · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Did anyone else laugh as they read this? The writer of this article is unaware of sequence numbers... (and thinks that a timestamp is placed on each packet instead.)

    No, because he's essentially correct.

    In VoIP protocols, a timestamp *is* placed in every packet along with a sequence number. The timestamp is used to place the incoming audio and video packets in the correct order with regard to time. The sequence number is used to detect packet loss. So basically, sequence numbers don't help you with jitter. The timestamp is use to actually calculate the amount of jitter, so it's rather important for it to be as accurate as possible.

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  18. Re:question by iabervon · · Score: 2, Informative

    The definition of the second is now based on the physical quantity that atomic clocks measure, so the clocks are, when functioning properly, correct by definition. They can therefore just look at how much agreement a bunch of clocks have with each other. That is, they don't have to worry about the issue of all of the clocks being systematically fast or slow, like if they were mechanical watches which could all be consistant, but all tick at a rate different from a second, because the second is defined such that this is not the case.

  19. UTC, TUC and GPS by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 2, Informative
    The standard day-to-day time system is UTC (rather mysteriously standing for Coordinated Universal Time) and it is based on the rotation of the earth. This is decided by the BIPM. As the length of a day is not precisely divisible by a second, leap seconds occasioanlly have to be added.

    The Big International Scientific Conference that got together to define a new time scale to replace GMT had no difficulty coming up with the name "Coordinated Universal Time", but deadlocked when it came time to decide between the English acronym (CUT) or the French one (TUC). So they decided to use the symbol UTC, which doesn't stand for anything.

    Leap seconds are used to keep UTC in sync with the Earth's rotation. Since the Earth's rotation is steadily slowing down, UTC would drift away from any sensible time if it wasn't adjusted every now and then. So they add the occasional extra second to keep them in sync.

    GPS time runs at the same rate as UTC, but has no leap seconds, and is currently 13 seconds different. People who navigate by the stars use UT1. Then there is the Terrestrial Dynamical Time that astronomers use, which is another matter entirely.

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