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Russian Firm Pays to Infect PCs with Adware

Jaidev writes "Information week is reporting that a Russian site (IframeDollars) is paying web developers 6 cents for each machine they infect with spyware or adware. One security expert estimates that iframeDollars could collect as much as $75,000 annually from the adware it placed on the infected machines during the third week of May, which cost approximately $12,000 in payments to place"

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  1. never a better time NOT to RTFA by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Funny

    Never know if the article publisher itself is an affiliate ;)

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  2. MS putting food on other peoples table once again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Eat this, open source zealots.

    This story proofs once againe that MS is delivering an infastructure on which other companies can thrive.

    Thank you MS!

  3. Hey, Microsoft can spin this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is Microsoft enabling yet another business to succeed in the ever changing technology marketplace.

  4. They've got me! by nyxon · · Score: 5, Funny

    They've already infected my machine! I keep getting pop-ups for penis enlargements! Help!

    1. Re:They've got me! by cr3ative · · Score: 5, Funny

      The good old targeted advertising must be working then ;)

    2. Re:They've got me! by MMMDI · · Score: 2, Funny

      A peice of plastic with a pump attached to it. [snip] It sucked. Sounds like it did its job, eh?

  5. in soviet russia by maharg · · Score: 3, Funny

    spyware pays you to infect it

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    1. Re:in soviet russia by kryptkpr · · Score: 3, Informative

      Sure.

      It was all started by Russian-board comedian Yakov Smirnoff.

      The original (and most funny version) of this joke was "In California, you can always find a party. In Soviet Russia, the Party can always find you!".

      I think it was the family guy episode that really popularized it though.. read the wikipedia article I linked for more info.

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  6. When spreading malware becomes this obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful
    it needs to be dealt with in a very obvious and unsubtle fashion. The owners if iFrameDollars should be killed, publicly and very bloodily as should anyone who works for the company. This might not satisfy strict due process guarantees (OK, it doesn't) but on the other hand these guys are scum and it's not as if we need a trial to prove this. Killing everyone at iFrameDollars will have the salutary effect of making other idiots who are considering this sort of thing think twice, or perhaps even three or four times about it, before they embark on something so odious.

    1. Re:When spreading malware becomes this obvious by swschrad · · Score: 4, Funny

      the russians will understand your post.

      nobody else will accept it as a viable option.

      we need a compromise here... perhaps on the order of "kill all the spammers, but pray for their souls."

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    2. Re:When spreading malware becomes this obvious by Tim+C · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You'd kill over something like this? Get a sense of perspective.

  7. Amateurs! by serutan · · Score: 5, Funny

    6 cents per machine? Hah! Our outsourcing group could get it done for 4 cents.

    1. Re:Amateurs! by John+Seminal · · Score: 5, Funny
      6 cents per machine? Hah! Our outsourcing group could get it done for 4 cents.

      But your help hotline would be in India. No thanks!

      Spammer: Hello, this is 30 year old shit in parents basement calling. I have infected 4,000 machines but only credited with 500.
      CallCenter: One moment, very sorry, read off sheet. Okay. Thank you so very much for using SpamInfect. We can help you.
      Spammer: Okay, about those machines I was not credited with.
      CallCenter: So very sorry. Very, very, very sorry. I sure it fixed soon.
      Spammer: So, are you going to credit my account or what?
      CallCenter: Yes, we credit right now. Right now. All better. Now you go to www.infectspammertoo.com for your reward.

      --

      Rosco: "If brains were gunpowder, Enos couldn't blow his nose."

    2. Re:Amateurs! by Florian+Weimer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, it's pretty amateurish because they don't have a WebTrust seal, unlike MarketScore.

  8. Everybody is satisfied! by MikeDX · · Score: 5, Interesting

    # Everyone is welcome to join the iframeDOLLARS.biz partnership program
    # Earn $0.055 ($55.00/1000 installs) and more for each unique iframe installs
    # You only put the short one line iframe code on your page(s) and start to MAKE MONEY
    # WITHOUT any Active-X console or any pop-ups...It means that you will not lose your unique visitors with our iframe!
    # The best percentage of installs (10-40% from the total traff or it's $4-$15 FOR 1000 UNIQUE VISITORS)
    # DAILY updated soft
    # We have 3 reliable servers with excellent speed
    # Payments every Tuesday
    # Real-time statictic of your work
    # Payment via: Fethard, Webmoney, Wire and E-gold
    # More than 150 webmasters work with us
    # Friendly support service
    # Everybody who works with us is satisfied.

    Does this "everybody" include the people whos pcs get infected with this shit? How long before this becomes more widely known or more common place... and will joe public do anything or care? no. The only chance we have is when the next windows "more money, better computer needed edition" comes out..

    1. Re:Everybody is satisfied! by Paco23 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      # We have 3 reliable servers with excellent speed Probably not for very long.

    2. Re:Everybody is satisfied! by Elshar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd be suprised if the people they managed to infect even noticed. Or cared as long as their machine was running. Hell, as long as you don't take a damned sledgehammer to their machine, they could honestly care less as long as they:

      - have access to their porn
      - can play solitare/hearts/freecell/minesweeper
      - get & write email
      - open the internet
      - do some 'work' with word/excel

  9. SANS Internet Storm Center already reported this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    SANS Internet Storm Center reported this issue more than a fortnight ago.

  10. Tracking? by Mad+Merlin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How do they track this? I guess their malware/adware calls home as soon as it strikes a target. Perhaps there's a possible weakness in this in that you could just keep infecting a VM and then restoring it to a good image again. Think they'd be smart enough to notice something odd about a million infections from the same IP?

    1. Re:Tracking? by mikael · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They would probably consider one IP address as a single sale.

      You could try spoofing false IP addresses, but they would probably be smart enough to have a three stage handshake to make sure the IP address actually existed. Not forgetting checksums to ensure that the whole package was installed. They would probably have this happen every time the machine was switched on/off, in order to know which systems were available for use. And they would probably wait a whole week until they were certain the malware was installed successfully.

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  11. So much for our time by AtlanticGiraffe · · Score: 5, Funny

    The price of your hours spent trying to get rid of that annoying adware from your mother's WinXP box:

    6.1 cents.

  12. Get the Firefox users! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    1. Code up a cool extension
    2. Throw in some code for this
    3. Spread it around
    4. Profit!

  13. First post.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is the kind of thing that should be illegal. I mean, it's just blatantly...evil *puts on flame retardant suit* (as for mispellings, I've been up for 45 hours). When are people just going to all in all make these things illegal? (and no I don't mean some crappy worthless legislation, I mean a point where if adware/spyware is what your company profits from, youre done, DONE). There has to be SOME common sense...come on...please? People have to stand up and give these companies the big middle finger. I'm a libertarian, I believe in free market, but I really really hate worthless parasites.

    1. Re:First post.... by Alex+Belits · · Score: 3, Insightful

      1. US government passes a legislation that destroys a profitable business model.

      2. Saudi Arabia develops a housing program that involves building a large number of igloos.

      I would rather bet on the second one.

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    2. Re:First post.... by Tsunamio · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'll take that bet. The US (or any other) government doesn't like profitable business models that attack other, even more profitable business models. Napster may have been making a profit, but that doesn't mean the folks in Washington liked it. And that was something that most voters approved of!

      The US government really doesn't like profitable business models from other countries that depend on slowing down our economy (say, by installing malware on all our computers).

  14. Prevention by kschawel · · Score: 4, Informative

    First of all, this exploits holes that already have patches on Windows systems:

    The code exploits a number of patched Windows and Internet Explorer vulnerabilities, including some that go back as far as 2002. Systems that haven't been updated would be vulnerable to the exploit.

    So patch and you'll be fine. Second, if you don't want to patch, you can just block this company's IP:

    According to the Internet Storm Center, companies can prevent the downloading of adware and spyware from iframeDollars' servers by blocking the IP address 81.222.131.59.

    1. Re:Prevention by Baron_Yam · · Score: 4, Informative

      So what if everyone here started clicking here?

      Is it morally acceptable to launch a preemptive strike when you absolutely, positively know the bastard is attacking you? Given that I get a timeout when I click on that link, I'd guess many people have already said, "Yes".

    2. Re:Prevention by Baron_Yam · · Score: 4, Informative

      Oh, and since going to iframedollars.com or iframedollars.biz takes you to 195.95.218.170 and not the address mentioned in the parent post, you might want to click on the link above a few times as well.

    3. Re:Prevention by radish · · Score: 3, Informative

      Judging by what's happening for me right now, putting a bogus id in the form to the left of that page hits their server rather hard. Hasn't come back yet and it's been over a minute. Doesn't increase their hosting costs, but maybe we can cause a meltdown in the database ;)

      Oops, I appear to have just started 20 request threads on their app server. My mistake.

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    4. Re:Prevention by brxndxn · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why don't we just take this to the next level and have us Slashdotters patrol the web like ants.. Any time there's a verified site doing crap like this, we all hack it, bring it down, track the people involved, torture them, kill them, donate their bodies to science, take their money, and donate it to open source-related initiatives?

      And, we'll have it be anonymous.. so we'll see threads like 'Anonymous Cowerd +5 Informative: Ya, found the bastard and poured gasoline all over him and lit him on fire. He should be dead by now.'

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  15. The Real Question is... by kingofalaska · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The question I thought of is: how much will be paid for adware/spyware removal tools, and who will profit?

    I say this because just last week I helped a friend set up his new HP machine, and noticed that it came bundled with 30 day trials of Norton firewall/AV, some anti-adware, and some antispyware. I replaced all three with free/OS versions. But many users don't know about this, don't know where to get it, and don't know how to use them. In fact, removal of these 'trials' was a pain, even for me.

    KOA

    Anchorage, Alaska Will Host National Policy Meeting on Technology

    1. Re:The Real Question is... by moranar · · Score: 2

      I think I speak for all of us (at least, all the people not affiliated with this) when I say:

      FUCK! Stop it, you lecherous thieving bastards! Enough already!

      This has been a cry of impotence. Thank you for your attention.

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      "I think it would be a good idea!"
      Gandhi, about Internet Security
    2. Re:The Real Question is... by zienth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why do you think Microsoft is getting into the anti-virus business? First they single-handedly created a multi-billion dollar market for anti-virus software by creating an OS that's about as secure as cheesecloth, and now they're going to jump in and make more profit by selling anti-virus software.

      It's like a contractor building a house with a leaky roof, and then selling you a tarp to put over it.

      I wish the internet backbone sites would all block traffic to and from IframeDollars. Hmmm, but that's a slippery slope. Next week someone not quit as bad will show up, and where do you draw the line at who to block and who to let be?

      Keith

  16. Is this illegal? If not, just the effect of market by icemax · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If adware and spyware is not illegal (although nobody here would argue it is ethical), and there is some monitary value for each PC infected, it was only a matter of time that offers like this would become public. Hopefully market competition will force down the value of each infected PC, making these schemes less inviting.

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  17. That's lowball.... by kawika · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The going rate for a US computer is more like 15 to 20 cents. Other countries go for as little as 1 or 2 cents. Cash4Toolbar is installing its stuff through some blogspot.com blogs (IE users beware) and some really cute social engineering, but several others are seeding infected files on BitTorrent.

  18. Well, I am split on this issue... by THEUBERGEEK · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As a tech support agent that works to remove this crap from the machines of those brave enough to call me, I have to hate these bastards with a virulence that borders on psychotic.
    But I also have to thank them for the job security, afer all if they did not do this I would be uneeded and would have to go get a real job.

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    Talking to Geeks is like eating jello with a chainsaw, interesting, but painful.
  19. Where to now ? by morcego · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I was wondering where we are going from here.
    SPAM, Pay-for-xploit. 99% of the web content is pretty much useless.

    Is it possible to claim back the Internet ? Somehow, I don't think so.

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    morcego
  20. Re:Is this illegal? If not, just the effect of mar by Tim+C · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, here in the UK installing stuff on my PC without my consent would be illegal under the Computer Misuse Act. I'd be amazed if there wasn't a similar law in your jurisdiction.

    Bottom line - I doubt very much indeed that this is legal in most countries.

  21. Use of affiliate program business as normal by NathanBFH · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This isn't really all that suprising. Business is business, whether it's black, gray, or white market. Affiliate programs work, why wouldn't adware businesses use this method to spread their product? It's interesting to see some estimates on their revenue, however. At first I read the slashdot summary and thought they were talking about $75,000 revenue annually and was surprised that anyone would even bother making adware for such pittly money. But the 'Aha!' moment came when I reread it and saw that's the estimated revenue for one-weeks worth of business. Damn, not too shabby.

  22. Not only in Russia by AwenAnam · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Recently I was contacted by a friend of mine in the United States who wanted to hire me as a programmer to develope an email borne virus with a certain advertisement payload for one of his clients.

    I graciously declined the offer.

  23. I will pay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I will pay 6 cents for every employee of this Russian company you murder.

    1. Re:I will pay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      they are actually a canadian company 180solutions who own CDT who own loudmarketing who own windupdates.com whos software is the actual stuff that gets installed, iframedollarz is just a middleman

  24. Honeypot browser by tgibbs · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So what we need is a "honeypot browser," that represents itself to a website as an old, unpatched copy of IE--but doesn't actually install the spyware. Then we could log in over and over, costing the spyware company money each time.

    1. Re:Honeypot browser by SacredNaCl · · Score: 3, Informative

      Apparently these folks can be reached at:

      ICQ: 291994264

      and

      traff@mail.com

      I sure wouldn't want anyone spamming them, or contacting them with complaints and wasting their time like they waste mine having to remove their garbage...

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    2. Re:Honeypot browser by DurendalMac · · Score: 2, Funny

      I just signed the bastard up for newsletters from fistmyass.com and sheshuge.com. Let's see how he likes tubby bitches and gaping cornholes.

  25. Important message to Slashdot editors by atomm1024 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Make sure you edit out any mentions of Russia from article summaries. That can only lead to at least half of the comments being lame Soviet Russia jokes.

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  26. Re:Is this illegal? If not, just the effect of mar by BlogPope · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I suspect they only care if its legal in Russia, and then perhaps only a little.

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  27. Deal with the cause not the symptom by MarkByers · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It wouldn't work - even if you removed one company, others would appear.

    How about hitting stupid users over the head repeatedly until they click the 'install critical updates' button...

    Then impose heavy fines on the companies that create security-hole-ridden software and charge extortionate amounts to upgrade, despite that the software is a necessary component of most people's systems. They should be forced to provide free security patches for the entire lifetime of the product, or else a free upgrade to the next version.

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  28. Re:Isn't capitalism great? by Phixxation · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I agree, but lack of a lock, or lack of a WORKING lock is not part of a "Normal Business Model". Ignorance of the masses doesn't make it "Normal" for a maliceous company to subvert what little security the bank (or computer) may have.

    My point is that because of the complexity of computer hardware and software, combined with its increadible proliferation, makes it very easy for these companies to use their marketing "tools". If they were legit, they woulden't need to "pick the lock". I think we're arguing over terminology here... Security is part of a normal business model, I agree, but unfortunately the general masses are relatively ignorant in regards to this very problematic issue. Until we educate them, they're going to fall prey to this kind of attack. However, it still doesn't make it "Normal" or "Okay" for a BUSINESS to actively exploit the property of others.

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  29. Easy fix. by Ph33r+th3+g(O)at · · Score: 2

    Follow the money. Find out who's receiving the payments, extradite them if they're outside the U.S., slap them in irons, put them on trial, and off to pound-me-in-the-ass prison. This sort of problem won't be solved without a credible deterrent.

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  30. The story left out one very important detail... by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It didn't answer the question: "Where do I sign up?". I've got a couple of thousands of windows users to teach a lesson to, and if I can make some moolah in the process, so the better!

  31. Re:MS putting food on other peoples table once aga by Ravatar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    All of these exploits have been patched by Microsoft already. It is the responsibility of the end-user to keep their OS up-to-date. For those too inept, Windows XP SP2 "automatic update" feature is decent i've heard.

  32. complexity, working locks, exploitative businesses by voixderaison · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think you've touched on an interesting point worth exploring further. The complexity of these systems makes it difficult to figure out what's legal and what's not legal, leaving a big grey area. Much Adware and Spyware presents the user with a dialog box:

    [ lots of fine print nobody reads ]
    [ OK? ]

    So technically, the user agreed to get pop-up ads for penis enlargement and mortgage refinancing and downloading all the trojan spyware buddies and I don't know what else because I don't run a Windows computer.

    There are quite a few exploitative industries, and they pre-date the complexity of home computing and Windows and Adware and Spyware.

    Rent to own? Circumvented credit laws allowing the company to, in effect, charge higher than legal interest rates to low-income consumers.

    Televangelism? Exploited the home bound and lonely and sick by showing them television of people (pretending to be) healed. This was the pioneer for staged "Reality" television, and frankly I'm surprised that it took so long (decades) for the television industry to apply the basic business model to popular television (cheap to produce, add some "Scripted Assisted Reality" drama, advertise, and whammo! Dollars flow in without exploiting the poor and the sick.

    The modern credit card and mortgage industries present even more complex examples. They have successfully lobbied themselves into a position where the laws are extraordinarily complex, and allow them to perform all manner of exploitative business practices that are perfectly legal. Bought a house lately? Do you have *any* idea who really paid how much for what in that stack of papers?

    None of this requires exploiting the complexity of home computers. In fact, in a sense one might consider the wild west nature of marketing via spyware on the home computer to be inspired by these other industries, which pre-date these companies by decades.

    One last wild hare thought... Adware and Spyware are also great equalizers, in the same way as the dot com types viewed the internet. This massive market of insecure home systems based on Windows allows *anyone* to get into a money making business with very little overhead.

    One could ask the rhetorical question: why is it OK for established multi-billion dollar per year industries to first create and then exploit legal complexity, but it's not OK for budding entrepreneurs in economically disadvantaged nations to set up an, ahem, advertising company.

    Work from home! Watch the $$$ roll in!!!

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  33. Re:Mod parent up by anubi · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I know its poor form to reply to one's own reply...

    This post presented a vexing moderation problem to me.

    Thing number 1: Refrozen presented a very informative on-topic link.

    Thing number 2: Refrozen also stated nothing wrong with ADWARE, which to me is a very inflammatory troll.

    I consider ANY intrusion and placing of stuff in my machine as malicious mischief, much as I would view anyone coming onto my property and leaving painted ads... aa well as a theft of my time to witness ad and time required to remove it.

    Whether they flip bits or leave paint, they have still altered my property - and stolen my time.

    No way can I condone adware like this - I think about all of us here consider it at least malicious mischief.

    So how do you moderate an informative flamebait?

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  34. Re:MS putting food on other peoples table once aga by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And when your car has recall-worthy defects several times a week, it's your responsibility to scan the newspapers for the alert notices. And spend several hours a week in your mechanic's garage, while they fix them with you. It's all OK, because it's on the automaker's tab, right?

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  35. Re:MS putting food on other peoples table once aga by BeatRyder · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Aside from the fact that he can't spell worth spit, and as much as I want to flame the crap out of that AC, he does have a point. Now before you all start to flame me, I am a die hard gentoo user, a recent convert from MS Windoze. I switched due to the reasons in this article (spyware/adware). Now to my point. Yes Microsoft should have done better, but the fact is they don't care. As long as they keep putting out a new OS, and removing backwards capability and "legacy" features from the newer versions, the general public will eat it up. I am not a m$ fan at any level, but to make jokes about how a BSD or Linux box is unaffected, while its true, is somewhat misguided IMO. I have recently been doing some research on the topic, and I have found that ANY OS is vulnerable. If a person wants to go to a website, and it requires they install an activex control, no matter what you teach them they will click "ok". Anyone here who has ever had to teach their (grand)parents how to use a computer will know what I am talking about. So is it FUD to thank MS for building a platform that we can all profit from? Me personally, I hope they stick around for a while, fixing their mistakes is my bread and butter. Logically one could assume that if/when linux becomes as main stream as m$, it will be under attack in much the same way m$ is now. I feel it should be noted that OSS is not as safe as some people would like to think it is. I installed Firefox on my grandparents computer, and within a week, I found that "MyWebSearch" has apparently written a toolbar for Firefox!! Which is also notably difficult to get rid of.