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Canada Introduces DMCA-Style Copyright Law

P Starrson writes "The Canadian government this afternoon kept one promise many could live without. It introduced new copyright legislation that will bring DMCA-style legislation to Canada (backgrounder and FAQ here but bill still not online). Professor Michael Geist has apparently seen a copy and points out on his blog that while the bill does not go as far as the United States, the proposal is full of new rights for the music industry with precious little for users."

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  1. is the toothpaste out of the tube yet? by yagu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It seems like there's a new story on this a couple of times a week. I remember the very first time I heard anything at all (some Senator was pushing some nefarious bill that alledgedly was going to give some "rights" to the music manufactures to help them "control" music as it became more and more digital...). I laughed out loud to myself (is that possible?). Anyway, fast forward to today, and I'm amazed at the progress the music industry has made.

    I watched in amazement as unexpected shills stepped forward to support the music industry in their quest to strip consumers' rights, most notably (or at least the one I can remember) Motley Crue. Further thought brought the logical conculusion these shills were entrenched in the music machine and stood to defend their obscene incomes... The bands that are popular are mostly (not all) there by serendipity. There are tons of excellent musicians out there waiting for their turn. So, Crue, et. al., dig in!

    And now? Canada? Blame United States!

    Regardless, I wish I wish a cohesive movement could arise and say, "no more", though I don't have a clue how to start that. Any good organizers in slashdot land? I don't know how a movement would manifest, but it seems groups have been able to pressure networks to not show shows, why can't the consuming music public apply similar pressure? I for one would be willing to commit to ZERO purchases of any media (dvd, sacd, cd, etc.) for one calendar year. Others? Other ideas?

    1. Re:is the toothpaste out of the tube yet? by xMilkmanDanx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I would suggest a modification of your idea: a boycott of those artists that have SUPPORTED this kind of legislation. To that end, a website listing musicians that support the DMCA and maybe also those that oppose it.

      Personally, I won't purchase anything from Metallica ever since the whole napster event (well, their stuff since then has sucked but that's besides the point). And no, I won't download it either.

    2. Re:is the toothpaste out of the tube yet? by kraada · · Score: 3, Informative

      To that end, one should look to Boycott-RIAA.com. Also, for general use, googling the artist name and "RIAA" tends to find out the information you're looking for . . .

      I for one do not buy RIAA music. Though I did buy two other CDs this year, and go to a concert.

      I hope more people start doing the same.

    3. Re:is the toothpaste out of the tube yet? by Decessus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think the answer to this is exposure. If the "movement" were large enough, well organized enough, and recognized for what it is, then they wouldn't be able to blame P2P networks anymore. This is just a hypothetical situation, but say you got one million people to stop buying digital media. Now, not only do they stop buying, they also loudly speak out through websites, news blurbs, and any other kind of exposure. All of a sudden the industries profits start to drop, there is no way they would be able to reasonably blame P2P networks when everyone already knows that there are a million people that are choosing not to purchase digital media.

    4. Re:is the toothpaste out of the tube yet? by Sj0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm sure clear channel will listen to your suggestions with open hearts and minds.

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    5. Re:is the toothpaste out of the tube yet? by bitspotter · · Score: 3, Informative

      http://www.downhillbattle.org/ is an extraordinary organization that does just that.

  2. It's the users, stupid! by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 4, Insightful
    of new rights for the music industry with precious little for users.

    When will "the users" realize that they elect the politicians?

    Money can buy influence, but in the end it is each "user" in that voting booth that should be throwing out those elected officials that don't respect them!

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    1. Re:It's the users, stupid! by Stevyn · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because young people who are affected by these laws tend not to vote. At least in the US, that is. I heard a lot more rhetoric for Kerry than actual votes for Kerry in the past presidential election.

      I'm really really not trying to to start a flame war, an anti-Bush/Kerry flame war, or anything else about the past presidential election.

      My point is politicians cater to those voting for them. And if the people voting for them don't care about the restrictions and the companies donating to their campaigns are encouraging these laws, then a politicians is going to pass these laws.

    2. Re:It's the users, stupid! by fishbowl · · Score: 2, Interesting

      >When will "the users" realize that they elect the
      >politicians?

      When will they realize that the elected government actually does represent the general consensus of the people?

      To me, that's much scarier than any conspiracy theory.

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    3. Re:It's the users, stupid! by wishus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Money can buy influence, but in the end it is each "user" in that voting booth that should be throwing out those elected officials that don't respect them!

      I don't think any of my elected officials even have copyright/IP issues on their platform. Even if I do vote against them because of their stand on that issue, they don't know it was because of that issue. They probably assume it was their stance on Iraq, or some other headline issue.

      There are so few candidates that it's impossible to find one that I agree with on all issues. As for the states that elected the congressmen who introduce DMCA-like bills, I doubt it was because they wanted new copyright law.

    4. Re:It's the users, stupid! by heelios · · Score: 2, Informative

      No it's not the user's fault. How many people are going to care enough to vote for another political party because they passed a copyright law?

      Not enough.

    5. Re:It's the users, stupid! by temojen · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I'm really really not trying to to start a flame war, an anti-Bush/Kerry flame war, or anything else about the past presidential election.

      That's good, because it would be REALLY off-topic in a thread about Canadian copyright law.

    6. Re:It's the users, stupid! by BewireNomali · · Score: 3, Informative

      I agree with you totally, and I'm going to take your logic a step further.

      In addition to the fact the young people in the US don't vote, the flip side is the music industry putting money behind politicians. In a bipartisan system, it isn't a big issue to put money behind BOTH candidates. Analysis of party lines will notice that there is less of a difference between democrats and republicans than ever and both cater to special interests.

      Young people don't vote in presidential elections, but more importantly, they don't vote in local elections for the house and the senate. They don't vote for local councilpeople and for mayors. So it's pretty safe to ignore us.

      I wanted to start reversing the trend. I went to an election a year or so ago for local councilmen (I'm in New York). The district had over 500,000 people in it. The guy who won had 580 some-odd votes. I got there and it felt like visitng my grandmother's house. I swear no one under 65 was there... except me.

      The fact that we don't vote is teh sux, but the fact that we don't really have a choice in a bipartisan system that harbors the illusion of difference is even worse. I have no answers, but voting democrat/republican is pretty much voting for the same thing.

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    7. Re:It's the users, stupid! by Mr2001 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't think any of my elected officials even have copyright/IP issues on their platform. [...] There are so few candidates that it's impossible to find one that I agree with on all issues.

      This is the real problem. Thanks to the polarization caused by our electoral system ("first past the post" elections virtually guarantee a two-party state), your only real choice at the ballot box is to vote for one set of positions, or another set of opposing positions. You can't vote for someone without supporting his positions on every issue, and you can't vote against him without opposing his positions on every issue.

      A system of proportional representation would allow smaller parties to focus on niche issues like copyright, and it'd make sure that they get seats if they have some support, even if they can't beat the major party candidates on every issue with most voters.

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    8. Re:It's the users, stupid! by baryon351 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Last election I heard dozens of my friends announce they thought bush got in illegally, as they knew nobody personally who voted bush.

      Now, apart from that just not being a representative sample, I also asked them who they voted for.

      All kinds of excuses came up. they were busy on the day, they don't vote out of protest, it was too far to travel, they just forgot.

      So much for not knowing anyone who voted bush - most of them didn't know anybody who voted kerry either.

    9. Re:It's the users, stupid! by Urusai · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My point is politicians cater to those voting for them.

      Spoken like a patsy from the faithful opposition. Democracy is broken. Politicians cater to whomever can provide them with their emoluments. In America, that would be--the rich! Sure, democracy could magically start working, but the systematic control of education and media in the US pretty much guarantees it can't.

      I'm sick of people deriding it as "class warfare" when it's pointed out that perhaps the rich who control things don't have the most altruistic of intentions. Yes, it is class warfare. And you are losing.

  3. better name? by RickPartin · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does it at least have a better name than Digital Millennium Copyright Act?

  4. Mirror of All Links by sammykrupa · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here is the Slashdot story with links changed to mirrors:

    P Starrson writes "The Canadian government this afternoon kept one promise many could live without. It introduced new copyright legislation that will bring DMCA-style legislation to Canada (backgrounder and FAQ here but bill still not online). Professor Michael Geist has apparently seen a copy and points out on his blog that while the bill does not go as far as the United States, the proposal is full of new rights for the music industry with precious little for users."

  5. Inaccurate Headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    They didn't introduce a new law, they introduced a new bill. It's not a law yet, and hopefully won't be.

    Please don't make such misleading headlines.

    1. Re:Inaccurate Headline by iSeal · · Score: 2, Informative

      Though not implementing this law would mean violating the WIPOs rulings; which state that circumvention of TPM (...DRMs) are illegal.

      Unfortunately, the heritage minister in charge of this debacle has seen little evidence to support our cause. The one event that was supposed to make her see the light failed miserably due to a lack of foresight from the organisers and poor arguments from the attendees.

      In essence: we're screwed. Though we do have the advantage of our lawmakers not being bribed $179,000 by the RIAA/MPAA.

    2. Re:Inaccurate Headline by Drakonian · · Score: 4, Informative
      Correct. So please - write, call or email your MPs! (Writing probably best.)

      List of Canadian MPs

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    3. Re:Inaccurate Headline by bigberk · · Score: 2, Informative
      Though not implementing this law would mean violating the WIPOs rulings
      Who cares? WIPO isn't the word of God floating down to earth from heaven above. It's the result of a 1995 American bill (NII) under Clinton, which failed in Congress. The industry picked up the flame outside US borders in the WIPO committee under the United Nations. Basically this is a disgusting effort of the media industry to force their desires, which could not originally pass in the USA as law, upon the rest of the world. [reference]
  6. In other news... by jd · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...The Canadian Government was sued today by the RIAA, for copyright infringement, over its DMCA act. "Mine, mine, mine! Precioussss!" squeeled the head of the RIAA, on the One Law being returned.

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  7. What's worse by oskard · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The people who create something evil, or the people who copy them

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  8. Acceptance of facts by ProfaneBaby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I went to a talk last year given by legal counsel for the EFF about the DMCA, efforts to remove it, and very limited success, and I realized that even the lawyer made one fundamental mistake: they refused to acknowledge that people really do steal significant quantities of music/movies simply because they don't want to pay.

    Until the anti-DMCA crowd accepts and acknowledges that, even though they produce crappy music, people are actively stealing significant quantities of music/movies, they will NEVER gain traction against the well organized lobbying groups.

    The DMCA contains WAY TOO MANY horrible provisions, but the fact that it's defended so harshly by the RIAA/MPAA is indicative of the fact that they are quite desperate. Yes, the recent music sucks, but no, that's still no excuse to steal it. Until the anti-DMCA side is willing to accept a law that reinforces the standard copyright laws in a REASONABLE manner, there's very little chance that the DMCA is going away.

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    1. Re:Acceptance of facts by Baricom · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Until the anti-DMCA crowd accepts and acknowledges that, even though they produce crappy music, people are actively stealing significant quantities of music/movies, they will NEVER gain traction against the well organized lobbying groups.

      It seems that if the anti-DMCA crowd (disclaimer: I'm one of them) were to admit that, then the recording industry would simply say, "See? Those criminals even admit that they're stealing our work! We can't stop at just the DMCA. We have to add DRM, harsher civil and criminal penalties for stealing, and everything else we can possibly do. If we don't, we'll go bankrupt because the pirates are cutting into our revenue stream."

      Obviously, locking us in isn't working. I propose an alternative business method: quality service. It works something like this:
      1. Stop suing your customers. I postulate that the vast majority of people being sued for trading have purchased at least a few CDs. Suing them is just going to irritate them and cause them not to make any other purchasers. It also irritates people who are totally legit, like me.
      2. Stop forcing DRM on customers. It adds to the cost of the product, is easily bypassed by whomever wants to, and makes paying customers feel like they're criminals that can't be trusted.
      3. Sell cheaper, and make up the difference on volume. More people would buy an album for $7.99 than they would at $21.99.
      Those are the facts. It's a shame the RIAA (and the Canuck equivilent) won't accept them.
    2. Re:Acceptance of facts by suitepotato · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Until the anti-DMCA side is willing to accept a law that reinforces the standard copyright laws in a REASONABLE manner, there's very little chance that the DMCA is going away.

      Not to Godwin this, or to put too fine a point on it, but this is like the Nazis saying they'll be reasonable if only their targets will wear little stars.

      YOU CANNOT BE REASONABLE WITH UNREASONABLE PEOPLE

      The RIAA and MPAA are exactly that: intractably unreasonable. We have DECADES of evidence right from their leaders' mouths documenting this clearly. These are people who believe the advent of the 8-track and then casette recorders were very very bad and dangerous ideas that played into mankind's original sin and gave him tools that he might be a thief. The VCR was a tool of bad nasty people who would steal money from the mouth of Steven Spielberg.

      You cannot begin to overestimate or overstate their lunatic idiocy. There is NO such thing as fair use for these people, they have NO concept of technology as it applies to demographics of adoption and usage and methods of applying technology to making proft, despite Apple's runaway success at putting iTunes to the public, and they have NO interest in listening to reason.

      Compromise? When they agree publicly that copyright was not ever intended and should not ever be used as a tool of permanent monopoly over ideas and expression of same by any organization, when they publicly apologize for suing CHILDREN for piracy, when they admit publicly that THERE IS such a thing as FAIR USE. I put this at the same chance of happening as flying pig racing becoming the newest prime time sport show.

      Personally, I say anyone who shills for them should have their entire catalog of publicly availible IP pirated and spread around to as many places as possible in a show of defiance. They need to learn that they WILL lose this war with the public and that we WILL defy them until they wave the white flag, smell the coffee, grow up, and get with the present day.

      Notice I didn't say that their IP needed to be exprienced, just copied. I wouldn't listen to Motley Crue or Metallica if you paid me and I've never had the slightest interest in downloading one of their songs. But I would do it just to send a message.

      Until then, they give no quarter, we give them none. They aren't desperate. They're greedy and stupid. If I was a pop musician relying on these people to keep me in the money, I'd get my head checked, fire these fools, and adopt a strategy that was in sync with the year 2005 and not 1955.

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    3. Re:Acceptance of facts by globalar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I happen to agree with you. But let me play devil's advocate. Were I the RIAA, here would be my strategy in response to your suggestions:

      1. "Stop suing your customer." I have millions of customers. When I sue just a few, I can settle out of court for more money than they will ever exchange with me in trade. As long as I don't sue everybody everywhere, I can gain money from claims and show people I mean business. Lawsuits are very common and few people pay attention to defending "pirates" and "thieves". A little moderation and this will not hit my bottom line.

      2. "Stop forcing DRM on customers." Most customers do not know what DRM is. They buy what attracts them and sometimes it happens to have restrictions. As long as I can attract enough customers, I still make plenty of money. DRM helps clueless investors keep confidence in my assets and business empire. As long as my assets are valued and I can attract customers, I do not need customer trust. Further, I can always sell through an online outlet like iTunes and consumers will buy with the trust of the Apple brand and the attractiveness of the artist.

      3. "Sell cheaper, and make up the difference on volume." Not until I have to will I cut my profit margins. If I can set the price, there is nothing in the world that will make me give that power up. Someone will have to take it from me.

    4. Re:Acceptance of facts by iCEBaLM · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Until the anti-DMCA crowd accepts and acknowledges that, even though they produce crappy music, people are actively stealing significant quantities of music/movies, they will NEVER gain traction against the well organized lobbying groups.

      That sir, is because it is not theft, it is copyright infringement.

      Theft is depriving the rightful owner of a tangible object. Making a copy of something does not do this.

      I will readily admit to you, right now, that many people infringe copyright simply because they do not want to pay for it. Do I think that is wrong? No. Do I think it is illegal? Gray area, not in my country but maybe yours, YMMV.

      Now you may be wondering why I do not think it is wrong to infringe copyright. Let me ask you a question: Why do you think it is wrong to infringe copyright? Is it because it's the law, is that why it's wrong? Is it because eomeone owns the work and deserves to be paid for it, is that why?

      Many things are or have been in various states of legality, alcohol at the beginning of the 20th century in the United States was illegal for one, slavery before the US civil war was legal for another. Do morals change simply because of the law? No. You cannot legislate morality and these two examples prove it.

      What about someone owning the work? Well the work in this case isn't tangible, it's not an object, it's a construct built into law, specifically Intellectual Property law. This law basically legislates that someone owns every idea and you're not allowed to share them without the permission of the owner. Not allowed to share an idea? How rediculous. What did we learn from the first paragraph? You cannot legislate morality. First we're taught to "share and share alike" and now law makers wan't to tell us that sharing is wrong?

      Lets move on from that question of sharing being wrong and into the notion that ideas behave like property. If I come up with an idea and I tell that idea to you then you also have the idea. I can't take it back, I can't make you forget, you can't voluntarily forget it either, it's in your memory. We both have the idea in our heads. You or I could tell countless people and everyone would have the idea, no one would be deprived of it, no one could voluntarily forget it, no one could take it away from you.

      Not only do ideas duplicate but two different people can come up with the same idea at the same time in different areas of the world. It's happened before and it will happen again. How do we come up with ideas anyways? We take from our experience: people, places, things. Artists call this "inspiration", inventors are guilty of using it as well. So lets recap: multiple individuals can come up with the same idea at the same time without collaborating and they use other people, places and things as inspiration to do it. If this is so, how can any one idea have an owner?

      Intellectual Property is a farce. It is certainly not theft and it is a fundamentally flawed system in which its flaws are currently being revealed to the world.

    5. Re:Acceptance of facts by forgetful_ca · · Score: 2
      People did steal the music.

      For possibly the trillionth time since Sean released napster, it is not theft. It's really a very simple concept. The law defines this as copyright infringement.

      That phrase doesn't carry enough emotional impact and moral outrage as 'theft' and 'pirates', but it is nevertheless true.

      I do not feel that laws need to be adjusted based on copyright infringment, especially when it is happening at a grassroots level. Nor do I feel that someone is a criminal (copyright infringement is a civil matter, those found guilty aren't adjudged criminals) for indulging in someone else's 'Intellectual Property'. This is smoke and mirrors. You don't own an idea, and even under the cover of copyright, you were only intended to get LIMITED protection from competition. In return, the thing you sought protection for was GUARANTEED to enter public domain. What does public domain get now?

      Copyright is not a step forward for anyone.

    6. Re:Acceptance of facts by yamla · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's not at all true. See here (specifically, the section on Private Copying. "The act [of copying a musical work such as an audio CD...] onto an audio recording medium for the private use of the person who makes the copy does not constitute an infringement of the copyright in the musical work, the performer's performance or the sound recording." I do not need to already own the copyrighted material. The whole presumption of innocence doesn't make much sense as everyone prosecuted for a crime (that is, for a criminal act) is presumed innocent in Canada (also, in the U.S.).

      The Canadian legal system has shown quite plainly that you do not need to own the CD. You are not infringing copyright. In fact, you don't even need to be making a copy onto an audio recording medium for which you have paid a levy, or for which a levy would normally be exacted.

      There's much more than just bill C-32, of course. There's the clear statements of the Copyright Board of Canada and there's case law. I'm sorry, but you are simply wrong on this. It is possible that what you state may apply if this new legislation gets passed, however, but my reading shows that it would still be legal to make a copy of a CD for private use. I cannot immediately cite that, however.

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  9. You arent a big company? by a_greer2005 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ...or a multimillion dollar contributor, then you have no freedom, now bend over, sparky!

    when is the recording industry going to start charging for singing inthe shower?

  10. The USA by argoff · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The moral is, the USA isn't really more corrupt or backward than many other governments out there. They were just the first to get it because that's where most the money is, and that's where the pressures of the information age hit first.

    1. Re:The USA by Fittysix · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And of course the US doesn't put ANY pressure on other companies to adopt the same corrupt and backward policies.

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  11. Interesting bit by grub · · Score: 4, Informative

    FTA (emphasis mine) This does not alter the right to make a personal copy (including a P2P download) but does set some tough limits on what users are entitled to do with those copies.

    That will be next on the entertainment cartel's radar.

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  12. Thanks a lot, neighbours... by breon.halling · · Score: 5, Funny

    I place the blame squarely on you, America. This was a great place to live, to go to school, to pirate music and raise kids until you moved in across the border.

    Sincerely,
    Canada.

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  13. Schoolhouse Rock - I'm Just A Bill by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2, Funny

    They didn't introduce a new law, they introduced a new bill. It's not a law yet, and hopefully won't be.

    OK, let's all sing along to Schoolhouse Rock - "I'm just a bill, yes, I'm only a bill, and I'm living up on Parliament Hill. And someday, the Dark Lord hopes and prays, that I will be a law, but today, I'm just a bill."

    or words to that effect ...

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  14. Re:Acceptance of facts - but is it stealing? by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 2, Insightful
    they refused to acknowledge that people really do steal significant quantities of music/movies simply because they don't want to pay.

    But is it stealing if you never would have bought it anyway. The music/movie industry would have you believe that every download is a lost sale at full retail price, yet you are not railing against this untruth from the industry.

    To me, stealing is taking a tangible object. Stealing a CD from a music store has taken something of value that cost money to produce. A download by a person who would have never bought the song, or can't buy the song -- and many versions of older songs aren't yet even for sale as singles -- hasn't cost the industry a cent, yet they claim losses of billions.

    There needs to be a better quality of truth on both sides of this issue.

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  15. Corporate interests run the world... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here in canada, like the states, the major parties are very capitalist (Liberals and Conservatives) in nature and support the corporations fully, so you should not be shocked when the gov. lets corporations get their way. Of course, here in canada, the NDP (new democratic party) is the 3rd party (with 19%) of the popular vote, and since it's left-leaning, would be the only party likely to support any sort of consumer rights. If your in the US, both the Dems and Reps are more towards the right (say, compaired to canada), so you have got to expect more right-wing thought...alos, in the US, there is way more relgion in the mix too.

  16. What should be reqired... by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 3, Insightful
    What should be required is that all technological protection features must disable themselves completely when the copyright period ends.

    And please try to restrain yourself from the obvious follow-up that they'll never have to do this because eternal copyright is just around the corner.

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  17. No more levy? by Sebby · · Score: 3, Insightful
    So, this means no more levy on recordable media, right? .... RIGHT?!?

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  18. DMCA isn't a problem, lack of 'loser pays all' is by Qbertino · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The DMCA isn't a problem. It's a nutcase law, I give you that. But it isn't a problem, since the law counts for everybody.

    Applied with a good sense of creative nonsense it can protect anybody from anything.
    Apply the DMCA to ways to access your personal data and sue anybody who sends you comercial mail into next wednesday.

    The DMCA only becomes so oppresive in the US because they don't have the 'loser pays all' paradigm. Which is the only way any civil legal system makes sense. Not having 'loser pays all' is the next best thing to corporate fascism (sic).

    Here in germany I have a friend that has trouble with big players in his field bringing up heavy legal caliber against him (he's into booksales on the web and it's about the german pricefixing law for books, even Pearson is involved). He goes to state court this month and if the corporate assholes lose he can carry on doing his business. In the US he'd be broke allready.

    Bottom line: Add 'loser pays all legal expenses of trial' to the system and have every hotdog stand apply the DMCA to each and everyt aspect of their small business - and the insanity of this law becomes aparent to anybody with basic brain functions. And it will eventually disapear.

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  19. Where do *you* live? Most users don't matter. by Colin+Smith · · Score: 2, Informative

    In the USA, UK or Canada for that matter, the vast majority of voters do not elect the politicians, their votes don't matter.

    Like the USA and UK, Canada uses a first past the post electoral system. More like the UK than US there are 3 significant parties (4 in Quebec) and the governing Liberal party received only 37% of the votes. In the UK, the governing Labour party received only 36% of the votes.

    With first past the post electoral systems you get what are called safe seats, constituencies which constantly return the same party, even with relatively small percentages of the vote (well below 50%).

    Anyway. The majority (the 60%+ who didn't vote for the government) simply don't matter and are basically not represented.

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  20. Re:Acceptance of facts - but is it stealing? by Mr2001 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    To me, stealing is taking a tangible object. Stealing a CD from a music store has taken something of value that cost money to produce. A download by a person who would have never bought the song, or can't buy the song -- and many versions of older songs aren't yet even for sale as singles -- hasn't cost the industry a cent, yet they claim losses of billions.

    Exactly. The reason theft is wrong isn't that you get something for nothing; it's that you deprive the owner of the use of what you stole. If I take your car, you can't drive; if I take your CD, you can't listen to it. But if I make a copy of a song on your CD, we can both listen to it; I gain something, but you lose nothing. It makes no sense to speak of stealing something that isn't scarce.

    Furthermore, even in cases where downloading a song causes someone not to buy it, it still isn't stealing. No one owns their expected revenue, and no one has the right to demand money from everyone who enjoys something they worked on. Negative reviews are responsible for more loss of expected revenue than any illegal copying - should we lock up Roger Ebert for preventing movie studios from getting the profit that's rightfully theirs?

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  21. Re:DMCA isn't a problem, lack of 'loser pays all' by fishbowl · · Score: 2, Interesting

    > In the US he'd be broke already.

    Common enough misconception - one that undoubtedly scares a lot of people into giving up rights.

    Court fees are not as expensive as you've been led to believe. If I'm ever sued, there's no way I'll give up one single item of process. Have a hearing on EVERYTHING, and don't waive your right to have a jury at EVERY hearing.

    Doesn't cost that much. I've done it. Won, too.

    "Loser pays all legal expenses?" The obvious abuse there is for someone to file suit on some trivial matter, where the defendant is clearly wrong, but have millions of dollars in legal expenses paid to some lawyer who is a partner of the plaintiff.

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  22. Also by temojen · · Score: 2, Informative

    In an election that was mainly a fight over The Religious Right (Corporatist) vs Corrupt Corporatists where you are lead to believe that it MUST be one or the other, few people realise that they CAN vote for a Non-corporatist party ( or another, or another)

    1. Re:Also by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Unfortunatly, bad options aren't really options. It is nice to have options, but if any of the three mentioned parties were to actually get in power then it would be a disaster.

      - NDP: Here in BC we are still recovering from when they were last in power (provincially). They have good intentions but the economics just don't seem to work, unfortunantly.

      - Block: The separtists... all they care about is Quebec. If they got in power it would probably cause a civil war or breakup of Canada.

      - Canadian Action Party: Nationalistic. No country is an island and severing ties with other nations is ultimatly detrimental to the world as a whole (the only way to ensure peace between everyone is to have a lot of trade between everyone.. you don't attack your trading partner since your economies are so interwined)

  23. Re:So, the obvious next question by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's what we do:

    First, don't panic.

    Once a bill is introduced, the following must happen. You should know this if you're a Canadian.

    1. It is read for the first time in the House of Commons (which has apparently been done.)

    2. The bill goes to the Senate, which will set up a committee to go over the bill and modify / approve it.

    3. The modified bill will go to the HoC again for a second reading. If passed again, it returns to the Senate for further editing.

    4. After the Senate looks over it again, it goes back to the HoC for a third reading and announcement. Once the law has been announced, then it goes into the Copyright Act.

    Note that many laws have been passed but never announced, making them unenforceable.

    To prevent this bill from being passed, do this:

    1. Call and write and email your MP. It's free to do so in Canada. Go to their office and tell them that you want to talk about the bill. (Know the number before you go down.) Don't expect to meet with them. You just want the staff to know that someone was there about Bill C-X and who doesn't support it. Remember that they have their faxes full with US fundie groups complaining about gay marriage.

    2. Tell them that you vote and your friends vote. This shouldn't be a lie. (I think that if someone says they don't vote, it's okay to hit them since it's self-defence.)

    3. Tell them that if this passes, it's enough to get you to vote for a party that doesn't support it.

    4. Remind them that free distribution of Canadian content keeps Canadian culture alive. (Hint: Tragically Hip >> Nickelback.)

    5. Talk about the levy placed on blank media that compensates the recording industry.

    Two other things of vital note:

    1. In Canada, the loser pays the court costs. It's not like in the US where you can bankrupt someone by suing them. If you get in trouble, lawyer up. If your ISP calls, get them to forward all communication to your lawyer.

    2. The ISP can charge for providing the information to the industry. I use Shaw, and I can't possibly see them passing up free money. I mean, come on, it's Shaw.

    3. Set up a neighbourhood network. Get a good router and let your neighbours in on it. Keep the network open. Keep no records of who has what IP address. Then they have no idea who's doing the infriging since you don't know either!

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  24. My humble suggestion by zaxios · · Score: 5, Funny

    Enforcing and Amalgamating Trustworthy Copyright Regulations, Assurances and Protections -- Countering the Onerous, Nefarious and Stupid Underming of Many Elites' Riches

  25. You know what? We could actually have a chance. by LullySing · · Score: 2, Informative

    While this is simply the most bullshit thing i've seen in a while, i believe this time, the thing that's been having everyone on nerves about canadian politics lately could very very well work to our advantage.

    By this, i mean the fact that we have a MINORITY government ( to all you Us people, this means the party ion power has less votes than the majority required to actually vote things. which means, they have to ally somehow with other parties to pass laws).

    Tonight, i'm getting all the email addresses of all the people i know in the area, and i'm gonna send the first ever chain letter i'll ever send in my entire life ( because i totally hate the frikking things, they are inacurrate, and half the time fell into urban legendhood ) be, get this, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CHANCE to have this tossed off. Tomorow, i'm gonna find out who the hell got elected in my district, and go and have a frank talk with him or her about why this is a ridiculous idea, that was essentially pushed for by corporate agenda and that it's something that Canadians don't want.

    The politicians know they've got an election coming off, with the Gommery commission ending soon and all. They know they must get all the votes they can.

    And right now, if we convince enough people, we can get this overturned before we egt another majority government that can do pretty much what it wants.

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  26. Re:My plan... by KillerBob · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Did you read the blog at all?

    His analysis says pretty clearly that downloading through p2p is still considered legal. It always will be as long as there's still a levy on every blank media purchase.

    According to TFA, the real concern is that this *bill* (still hasn't been passed into law) would make it illegal to circumvent anti-piracy mechanisms on CDs and such. In other words, if there's garbling to prevent playing a CD on a computer (and likely old CD players too), it'd be illegal to hook up your CD player's line out to your computer's line in and record the songs directly. Likewise, it'd become illegal to circumvent some proprietary copy protection that collects your name and vitals when you rip a recording for personal use.

    The only conclusion I can make is that they really don't want people buying their crap, which is an objective I'm more than happy to help with. If it happens, then I guess my solution would be to switch back to cassettes... for all of one album every couple of years.

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  27. This has a very good chance of dying... by Hamster+Lover · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In my opinion, there is very little chance of this passing. Parliament is set to recess for the summer and this bill would have to go through first reading, second reading and committee or report stage and finally third reading all before summer recess or risk dying on the order paper. The Liberals are having trouble enough getting the same-sex marriage legislation to third reading stage, never mind a bill introduced this late.

    I think the bill was introduced as a way of deflecting criticism for delaying implementation of recent WIPO intellectual property agreements and to appease lobby groups clamouring for action on the "theft" of music and movies on the internets after several reverses by the courts.

  28. They lie right in the FAQ by nuggz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Q7 "Legitimate access as authorized by the Copyright Act, will not be altered.
    Circumvention for the purposes of making private copies of sound recordings will not be permitted, however.

    See the Copyright act section 80
    http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-42/39673.html#rid-3 9796

    At the very least they shouldn't lie in the FAQ describing a new law.
    Time to contact your MP, remember it is free to snail mail them.

  29. Re:sick of hearing this by sapgau · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes but, if your vote is not even recorded there is no way for them to fight over your vote. Even if they both suck at least they will dance for you to get your vote.

    And, if it's evident that your candidate had the advantage and lost then we can say that the system is corrupt and someone has to pay.

    Look at the new democracies in eastern europe. People forced the system to change because their vote wasn't being counted or they demanded the system to be fixed.

    my 0.02

  30. Bill not Law and who will pass it? by nooby_god · · Score: 2, Interesting
    First of all it is a bill and not a law, which means it is subject to revision and such. Secondly I wonder which parties will pass this bill? Right now we have a minority government and I have found no information about the parties' stance on this bill.

    There are four parties right in the Commons with two independants as tiebreakers. Since the Liberals introduced the bill they are obviously going to vote for it.

    That means they need the support of one more party (and possibly an independant) if this bill is going to pass. The Liberals will ask the NDP to pass this bill, but I think this bill might go against the pary policy (protecting peoples rights).

    That leaves the oposition (The Conservative Party)which will not vote with the government and the Bloc, who hates the government. That means that if the NDP doesn't vote with the Librals this bill will not pass.

    There is some hope.

  31. Re:My plan... by c · · Score: 2, Insightful
    His analysis says pretty clearly that downloading through p2p is still considered legal. It always will be as long as there's still a levy on every blank media purchase.

    Of course, being able to download legally isn't exactly worth much if it's not legal for someone else to upload. That was, IIRC, actually a point made by the original judge in the CRIA case up here, but the appeals court quashed that because it made a conclusion of legality far too early in the proceedings.

    Unfortunate, although probably technically correct), because it was one of the most clueful things I've yet to see a court say about the media levy... If you make it legal to receive, you gotta make it legal to give or you didn't really accomplish anything.

    c.

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  32. Sigh by bigberk · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've been working pretty hard against this for years. I have phoned up my government representative and tried to talk to them about the issue but realistically, people in government do not understand the issue and are voting blindly. I have documented the proposed changes to law in this Q and A (no surprise, the background is in US legislation). There was a lot of interest from concerned Canadians, including a petition (with thousands of signatures).

    Personally, I will never again buy music or media that originates from an artist under the membership of one of the industry associations (CRIA, RIAA, MPAA) that has lobbied governments and fooled our politicans. From now on it's rentals and second-used (used) media only for me. Please help keep your money out of the hands of these associations; they are already dying, let's finish them off.

    I will not shed a tear for them. These ridiculous laws are not in the best interest of citizens or consumers, at all. You can't convince me otherwise no matter how you spin it.

  33. Re:So, the obvious next question by bigberk · · Score: 2, Informative

    And sign the petition. This site originally started as anti-DMCA in Canada and that's still the basic idea. But yes, definitely get in contact with your MP.

  34. Re:My plan... by KillerBob · · Score: 2, Informative

    Unfortunate, although probably technically correct), because it was one of the most clueful things I've yet to see a court say about the media levy... If you make it legal to receive, you gotta make it legal to give or you didn't really accomplish anything.

    True enough. But I can't be prosecuted for somebody else breaking the law. I don't do a whole lot of downloading anyway (one great thing about liking mostly stuff that's older than you are is that eventually you find yourself with a complete collection :)). Meanwhile, I can continue to download content while trying to work within the system for change. I've already left a couple phone messages with my MP's office, and written a few letters.

    My big concern is with their provisions regarding illegal copying of protected content, and circumventing mechanisms in place to prevent copying and to collect user information. As a user of a non-Redmond OS, would I be breaking the law to even listen to my music on my PC?

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  35. Boycott? What boycott? by XStylus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Boycott the RIAA and they'll just blame the decreased sales on piracy. That's their universal excuse for everything.

    Q: "How come you're not selling as many CDs?"
    A: "Because of piracy."

    Q: "Are you sure it isn't because your music sucks?"
    A: "Nope. Our research and focus groups have carefully developed a special style and formula that will generate hits as easy as using a cookie cutter. Each one is a guaranteed chart buster. The only reason they aren't is because of piracy."

    Q: "What about the people boycotting sales of your CDs? Is that affecting your sales?"
    A: "Boycott? Why would anyone boycott us? No, it's only a justification to pirate more music."

    Q: "How come you haven't been able to establish a strong market in China?"
    A: "Piracy. Duh!"

    Q: "What about Antarctica?"
    A: "Yup, piracy there too. Damn polar bears."

    Q: "I hear that there's a new artist out that's selling really well. Is it because they're finally making fresh music that people enjoy?"
    A: "Nope, it's because we've stepped up our efforts to fight piracy."

    Q: "So I guess your shit don't stink, huh?"
    A: "Pirates keep stealing it, so it doesn't linger long enough for the odor to fester."

    Q: "Is there anything good that has come out of piracy?"
    A: "Heck yeah! We're reaching incredible profit milestones thanks to our lawsuit business model. I strongly recommend it for any business, but don't follow SCO's example though."

    Q: "Is there anything pirates are NOT to blame for?"
    A: "Bush getting elected."

  36. Re:So, the obvious next question by Neurotoxic666 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    5. Talk about the levy placed on blank media that compensates the recording industry.

    IMO, this should be the first point to mention, because this argument alone should be sufficient to either destroy completely any ambition from the CRIA to sue people or, at the very least, make the levy on blank media disappear.

    But seriously, if the blank medias were not levied, do they even realize I would have hundreds (or most likely, thousands) of dollars in my pocket to spend on CDs, DVDs and shows I truly like. Yes, I buy a lot of blank media.

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  37. Find your MP by postal code by scruffyMark · · Score: 3, Informative
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  38. Re:Acceptance of facts - but is it stealing? by Mr2001 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I write software for a living. The time it takes to put out a software product is scarce. The money I am payed or which I must invest for creating that intangible and "0-cost reproducible" stream of bits is scarce. Reproduction costs are irrelevant; there must be something to be reproduced to begin with, and that something is scarce.

    You're making a classic mistake here. You're entirely correct, of course, that the time it takes to make a program, a song, or a movie is a limited resource, but once that time has already been put into making it, the program/song/movie itself is not scarce.

    I also write software for a living, so I know as well as you do that programming time and talent is scarce. But there's a difference between programming and programs. Just like a mechanic or a barber, I don't worry about what someone else wants to do with the fruits of my labor, since I've already been paid for it. The only way someone could "steal" my labor as a programmer would be to sit me in front of a computer and force me to write code.

    When you distribute works (books, music, movies, software, whatever) without the copyright owner's permission you are stealing something: the compensation to which the author is entitled for creating it.

    If you don't own something, no one can steal it from you - and you don't own potential revenue.

    Moreover, the author isn't entitled to get paid just because he made something. If Universal Studios spends $200 million and two years making a terrible movie, and it gets such bad reviews that no one ever buys a ticket, have the reviewers "stolen" something from them? Of course not.

    And more importantly, even if everyone who reads those bad reviews decides to download the movie instead of buying a ticket, the studio still isn't entitled to anything. They're in exactly the same situation whether those people download the movie or just sit at home doing nothing; the only difference is that in one scenario, those people get to watch the movie anyway, which harms no one (except themselves, if it really is that bad).

    But you must know this already. Otherwise, I must presume you have nothing against taking GPL code and selling it as closed binaries.

    Actually, in a world where everyone was free to reverse engineer, decompile, change, and redistribute software, I wouldn't have much of a problem with that. Thing is, we don't live in that world, we live in one where misusing GPL'd code creates an unfair advantage.

    But the UNfair use that so many are trying to justify with the above "argument", and which is practiced on a massive scale, makes elected representatives easier to convince that these laws are necessary.

    One man's "fair" is apparently another man's "UNfair". Take the trading of TV shows, for instance: last night, due to a TiVo scheduling mishap, I missed the new episode of a popular show. Luckily, I was able to download it via BT a couple hours later. Nothing wrong with that, right? Whether I watch it on TiVo or on my PC, the result's the same: I have a recording and I watch it hours after the show airs.

    Now what if I didn't have TiVo, and I just downloaded the show every week? Still fair? After all, whether I pay $13 to TiVo every month shouldn't affect my ability to watch this show; TiVo has nothing to do with the show. Same argument applies if I don't own a TV.

    And yet the studios are still up in arms about TV shows being traded, and every pro-copyright argument applies just as well to free-to-air TV shows as it does to songs and movies. Copyright isn't about getting paid, it's about dictating the terms under which someone can reproduce a chunk of information.

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  39. NDP supports WIPO ratification by MochaMan · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you check out this article by Michael Geist, you can see the various parties' stances on copyright reform.

    Summary:
    Liberal - Middle of the road. Basically For.
    NDP - For
    BQ - For
    Conservatives - Against
    Green - Against

    Very surprised particularly at the NDP and Conservatives stance. I voted Green last time in any case.

    The full text of the Toronto Star article linked from the link above to avoid registration:

    Parties the same? Not on tech issues
    Surprising answers emerge from surveys

    With much at stake, there's little debate

    MICHAEL GEIST
    LAW BYTES

    With the federal election now just one week away, millions of voters are sizing up the national parties' positions on a wide range of issues. For those interested in technology law and policy issues -- including copyright, spam, and privacy -- the election campaign has been a disappointment as technology policy has barely registered on the election-issue radar.

    While it may be understandable for technology policy to take a back seat to health care, national defence, and tax policy, an election campaign would be an ideal time to generate discussion and learn about positions on issues that typically stir debate throughout the year.

    In recent weeks several groups have tried to capture the attention of the national parties and local candidates by posing questions on technology law policy and posting the responses online. The Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic (CIPPIC) at the University of Ottawa, online at http://www.cippic.ca/ distributed a questionnaire to each national party covering key copyright policies issues including positions on music file sharing and Internet service provider liability as well as on spam, the use of open source software, and national ID cards (in the interests of full disclosure it should be noted that I am a faculty adviser to CIPPIC).

    Similarly, Digital-Copyright Canada, a user and creator group, posed similar copyright questions (http://www.digital-copyright.ca/ to each local candidate across the country, while the Canadian Teachers' Federation asked each party for their views on copyright issues of concern to the education community.

    With responses in hand from four of the five major political parties, different visions of Canadian technology law policy have begun to emerge.

    The Liberal party sits squarely in the middle on these issues. Although the party's response speaks predominantly in generalities on copyright matters, it is revealing as much for what it says as what it does not.

    First, the party pointed to the controversial blank-media levy as evidence it has worked to ensure Canada's copyright policy is modern and progressive, a surprising illustration given the opposition to the levy from a broad range of stakeholders.

    Second, while the party noted the ongoing copyright reform process, it tellingly made no mention of the recent Canadian Heritage committee copyright report, perhaps seeking to distance itself from the report's recommendations. The committee, chaired by Toronto-area Liberal MP Sarmite Bulte, has drawn the ire of educators, Internet service providers, and copyright experts for adopting a one-sided perspective that fails to account for the interests of all copyright stakeholders.

    Ms. Bulte herself offered a spirited endorsement of her committee's recommendations just days before the election call, concluding that the exceptions proposed by groups such as the Canadian education community to facilitate the use of the Internet within our schools was the wrong approach, characterizing such exceptions as leading to "freebies." Given the Liberal emphasis on education, its move away from Ms. Bulte's position may foreshadow a reconsideration of the recommendations should it form the new government.

    The Liberal party also responde

  40. Attention, Citizens of Canada... by wrecked · · Score: 3, Informative

    Normally, I would post this anonymously to avoid being a "karma whore", but since it's late in the day and the story has been up for a while...

    The following is mentioned every time a Slashdot story is posted about Canadian copyright law, but it deserves to be repeated: fellow Canadians, if you want to do something constructive about this, there is a website set up to lobby against this bill, at http://www.digital-copyright.ca/

    According to that site, there is a Member of Parliament (MP) with an interest in this issue, who presented the first petition against this bill back in April 2005 around the time the first Slashdot story broke, and a second petition in May: Peter Julian, New Democratic Party (NDP), MP Burnaby-New Westminster.

  41. Please WRITE your MP before Summer, and in Fall by saskboy · · Score: 2, Informative

    DMCA for Canada is not acceptable
    Written Friday March 25 2005

    Please write your MP on this matter. Use my letter below if you don't want to write your own.
    Send your letter for free (no postage necessary when parliament is in session; summer is approaching), to your MP at the following address:
    [your MP's name] M.P.
    House of Commons
    Ottawa ON K1A 0A6

    Find their email address, but write by paper mail too. http://www.parl.gc.ca/information/about/people/hou se/PostalCode.asp?lang=E

    Dear Mr. Breitkreuz
    To summarize the issues in this letter:
    1. Internet Service Providers should not be required to keep extensive logs of private and legal online communications.

    2. The government must not stop Canadian citizens from making personal-use copies of their legally purchased software, music, and movie media.

    Background:
    http://pch.gc.ca/progs/ac-ca/progs/pda-cpb/reform/ statement_e.cfm

    Here is the reasoning:
    The purpose of the Copyright Act is to support creativity and innovation in the arts and culture. To design a new Act on the failed and draconian Digital Millenium Copyright Act of the United States of America, would be a disaster for Canadian culture, and innovation. Also our court system could become clogged with law abiding citizens who make personal use copies of their music, software, and movie collections for no personal financial gain. An implementation of the proposed changes to the Copyright Act would unleash another "Gun Registry boondoggle" onto the Canadian people - creating criminals out of law abiding citizens at the expense of Canadian taxpayers.

    Internet Service Providers like Sasktel should not be made to keep extensive client usage logs for possible future prosecution by various copyright-based industries. I don't want to pay for that system to be put into effect, and I don't think most people do. The phone companies are not forced by the government to record the content of phone conversations, only police can do that with a proper warrant. ISP logs are going to be equivalent to phone-taps, and that's a violation of my privacy. It's doing the job of the police, and is for the sole benefit of an industry basing its profits on an outdated business model that is no longer realistic for the Canadian government to protect.
    It is completely unfair to be paying a levy to artists organizations for purchasing blank CD media to make home-use private copies of legal CD music, and now to also be unable to legally copy the music I've paid for off of Digital Rights Managed CDs. If copying CD music is going to be illegal, why is the government collecting money from the product for an illegal activity? I'm satisfied that the current levy is helping to compensate artists from illegitimate copying, and no new law is required to prevent me and other people from making sensible backups of our legal music, software, and movie collections.

    Your representation in the House of Commons on this matter is greatly appreciated by me, and other supporters of personal liberty and innovation in the arts. I look forward to hearing from you.

    Sincerely,
    my name

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  42. Re:So, the obvious next question by SerialEx13 · · Score: 2, Informative

    3. Set up a neighbourhood network. Get a good router and let your neighbours in on it. Keep the network open. Keep no records of who has what IP address. Then they have no idea who's doing the infriging since you don't know either!

    You forgot, be in violation of your acceptable use policy. Not only that, but also you are to be held responsible if you are aware of such activity.

  43. Re:have their cake and eat it too by iamnotanumber6 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Read the article(s) more carefully next time.

    It's only illegal if you defeat the copy protection for the _purpose of copyright infringement_, which only applies when you copy a copyrighted work without permission from the copyright holder and for purposes that are not explicitly protected by the copyright act, such as personal/private use and fair use.


    use your brain(?) more carefully next time, before you accuse me of not reading the article when you obviously haven't read the article yourself:

    "Professor Michael Geist has apparently seen a copy [of the actual bill] and points out on his blog that..."
    [...]
    "As expected, the TPM provisions do not cover devices that can be used to infringe. Rather, they target persons who circumvent for a purpose that is (sic) constitutes copyright infringement or for the purposes of making a private copy.
    [...]
    the defense expressly excludes private copying from its ambit. Therefore, Canadians may be asked to pay several times for the same work as they may pay once for the CD, once for the digital download, and once through the private copying levy for the blank CD. Attempts to circumvent protections on the CD in order to make a personal copy (a copy already paid for via the levy) will now constitute infringement in Canada."

    this was never mentioned in the previously published "backgrounder" or "faq", but the news is the actual bill will now hand record companies a legal muzzle to prevent private copying, without amending the blank media levy regime that pays them millions in royalties for that very same copying.

  44. Re:So, the obvious next question by Mithrandir86 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Why do people waste their time with these pointless online petitions? They are completely and utterly pointless. There is no way to validate identity.

    If you want change, I suggest you start a real petition. Don't worry, I'll sign.

  45. Re:So, the obvious next question by Mithrandir86 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Nice post. A few comments though.

    In High School I was involved in the model parliament program.

    The 'Senate' is merely a delay to let the real politicians time to prepare for the next reading. They aren't a consolatory body like the British House of Lords, but rather a dirty, antiquated waste of flesh and taxpayer's money. The consolatory committee is made up of MPs, not members of the Senate, with proportional votes to change the clauses to a bill.

    You're mistaken when comes to legal representation.

    It is far easier in the States to sue for damages as you can pay your lawyer a percentage of winnings, which effectively can pass all the risk to the firm handling your case. This is illegal in Canada.

  46. UPDATE:The end of Anonymous Access in Canada? by bitspotter · · Score: 2, Informative

    Now that the bill has been posted, The question is a little clearer.

    From the bill:


    40.2 (1) A person described in paragraph
    40.1(1)(a) or (b)
    [ie, an ISP] who receives a notice of
    claimed infringement that complies with subsection
    40.1(2) has an obligation, on being paid
    any fee that the person has lawfully charged for
    the performance of that obligation
    ,


    So, the upshot, if I interpret this correctly, is that if you provide Internet access or proxy services or hosting free of charge, you're not obligated to forward an infringement claim notice or keep identification records. ...That's a little better. So projects like or Dijjer are not required to keep tabs on everyone that uses the network.

    Whew!