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More Info on Google's 3D Maps

Will Stewart writes "You have doubtless read that Silicon Valley Watcher reported on Google plans to use trucks equipped with lasers and digital photographic equipment to create a realistic 3D, online version of San Francisco and eventually other major US cities, but you may not have seen the picture of where the trucks are kept and Berkeley's unrelated research project and published technical research (PDF file)."

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  1. Picture of the actual 3D images? by moz25 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Are there any public screenshots available yet of what it's going to look like? I understand the basic principles of what they're going to do, but it's still a little hard to envision what the end result is going to look like.

    1. Re:Picture of the actual 3D images? by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, here

    2. Re:Picture of the actual 3D images? by HaydnH · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yup - have a look at this. Although the image doesn't show the facades of the buildings.

      Oh - on that note, take a look at the images here, especially this one... if google are using trucks, how are they going to get the texture maps for the top of the buildings as shown in that image??

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    3. Re:Picture of the actual 3D images? by mwood · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wow, it's dangerous enough having people taking snapshots of famous bridges. Now we've got trucks with frickin' laser beams on their heads aiming at the Golden Gate! That's just *gotta* be terrorists. :-)

    4. Re:Picture of the actual 3D images? by op12 · · Score: 5, Informative

      As described in the page you linked (http://www-video.eecs.berkeley.edu/~frueh/3d/), that is done by merging the street level data gathered from drive-thrus with aerial data gathered from fly-bys. You can see a picture on the same page where only street level data was used and what the result looks like.

  2. Link to the actual image by peterprior · · Score: 4, Informative

    To avoid loads of db queries and ads, the actual (rather uninteresting) picture is:

    http://www.siliconvalleywatcher.com/mt/archives/Go ogleGarage.jpg

  3. Giant Anderson Shelter by Ronald+Dumsfeld · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, their picture looks like a giant Anderson Shelter

    Are their competitors likely to try and bomb the truck?

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  4. I call BS by SquierStrat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I call BS. That looks like any one of a thousand quonset huts on Camp Pendleton and other Marine Corps bases. How do I know that it isn't a picture of one of them?

    Also - wow, who cares.

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  5. Some more info by sonamchauhan · · Score: 4, Informative

    Some related info:

    More on Google 3D maps
    3D Buildings
    Lets start with the big things first. On selected US cities, you can view a grey scale 3D rendering of the city skyline. Pictures are worth more then words so I'll let the screenshots do the talking. ...
    This was in Keyhole but it's still amazing. Screenshots really can't capture how amazing it is to freely move around a 3D world.


    Amazon's "Blockview"
    The most powerful technology A9.com invented for Yellow Pages is "Block View," which brings the Yellow Pages to life by showing a street view of millions of businesses and their surroundings. Using trucks equipped with digital cameras, global positioning system (GPS) receivers, and proprietary software and hardware, A9.com drove tens of thousands of miles capturing images and matching them with businesses and the way they look from the street.

    1. Re:Some more info by Obiwan+Kenobi · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Screenshots really can't capture how amazing it is to freely move around a 3D world."

      Yeah, I tell you what though, I do this every day and it's the shit.

  6. Huh? by Quixote · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All I see is a picture of a large garage. How do we know this is where the truck(s) is (are) kept? And even if the truck were being kept there, what's the big deal? What next: the picture of the garage where a Google programmer parks his car? A menu from a restaurant where Page/Brin ate last month?

  7. How do they remove people? by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Won't they capture 3d shots of people walking past or standing around?

    Does the software only account for 3d structures over a certain size?

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  8. Re:Here's a thought.... by Cat_Byte · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm not so sure I'd want my house in 3-D available thru google maps...

    Anyone else have thoughts on this?


    If you see the google truck coming make sure you moon them as they go by. It would make a nice "easter egg" for google maps ;)

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  9. photograph crime in progress? by BoneOfconTroll · · Score: 2, Funny

    Anyone found one of them yet? In Amazon's versions, you can see motorcyclic keep pace along Gough street, of "go getter pizza", in San Fran (the first hit for pizza). http://www.amazon.com/gp/yp/B0004B4KH4/103-1660600 -5419803 I wonder what has has been seen.

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  10. Open Source by DanielMarkham · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think this is a neat idea, especially if Google opens up all of the data to outside developers (which it has in the past)

    Imagine new MMOGs where the cities are real! Or virtual tours of New York, say, before you actually decide to go visit. There are a lot of great possibilities.

    I guess you could even plug data like this into a Sim-City-type game, where the virtual city is modeled just like the real one. Sort of gives the term "city planning" a whole new meaning.

  11. more pictures please by GreasyBloater · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can someone please acquire photos of the following items:

    - gas station used to fuel the trucks
    - hose used to clean the trucks
    - steel drums containing the trucks used oil

    These would be most (snort) valuable for my collection. (snort)

  12. Re:What I would like to know is... by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 2, Funny

    You need to invest in some new t-shirts:

    User-agent: Googlebot
    Disallow: /

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  13. Re:Complaints and Grievances... by Crimson+Dragon · · Score: 2

    I understand this sentiment. I also acknowledge that a company which has reached Google's size needs to diversify their pursuits and offerings to keep constant revenue streams and stay afloat.

    It's the reason Microsoft is engaging in as many industries as it is. Same goes for IBM, or Sun, or any other huge player in the IT world. It's diversify or die in this economy. At least Google is making some attempt to make a useful service (if they can get it off the ground) in the process, rather than spam us with junk hardware, overpriced servers and OS'es, and the like.

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  14. Re:Complaints and Grievances... by megify · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I work @ a real estate co. in Boston. We use keyhole, aerial programs such as aerials express, and have pilots fly sites, to zoom in on properties, for sales/leases/whatever.

    having a site flown is expensive, can't be done for the number of buildings we are in charge of working with. you can keep prints when you get them, but the photos become old quickly. aerial software is also a great concept - but after even one year, the images are out of date also.

    As far as google funding this on its own, I don't think it has to: keyhole is a pretty decent program already, and if they get enough people to buy subscriptions (as we have) they could come up with more funding.

    I personally love anything in 3D, and I am trying to get back into the 3D/VFX field. I'd love to see Boston as a 3D fly-through. But especially with the Big Dig, that'll be a few years...

  15. .jpg already /.ed -- here's a lo-res mirror though by PeeAitchPee · · Score: 5, Funny

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  16. Re:Complaints and Grievances... by BewireNomali · · Score: 2, Insightful

    i agree with you. it seems a harrowing undertaking for Google to want to assume. It also seems like something that shop owners and businesses should be responsible for. Google can post requirements for the kinds of photographs, etc, that it needs. Or it can generate a side business. Laser Photographers certified by Google to take the right scans/images for the map project.

    It just doesn't make sense for google to brute force this. Too costly and extensive and time consuming. I do disagree about them having the resources though. Seen their stock price lately?

    Re: money pit. companies regularly throw money away to prevent smaller companies from getting footholds. I actually think that it hasn't been made a bigger point that google has employed many strategies typically considered evil when followed by microsoft. They find small companies and buy them out, borg-style. They crush other innovators by using the search monopoly to gain a foothold in other services. I don't know if anyone's posted how Google will be launching a pay service to compete with Paypal, but they apparently plan on doing so. I'm sure that means that they'll be going into the online auction space. They also plan to launch a Craigslist-type service.

    *shrugs*

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  17. Midtown Madness by BlueOtto · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This would be awesome to integrate for Midtown Madness maps, especially when your own city gets added.

    Regardless, being able to "drive through" from car perspective would seem like a great way to learn your way around a town.

  18. Will Google Map the Oceans too? by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think its a safe bet that they'll opt for mounting lazer beams on sharks.

    1. Re:Will Google Map the Oceans too? by rbarreira · · Score: 2, Funny

      Someone either didn't notice the subject, or likes to spend a lot of keystrokes trolling :)

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  19. Barbara Streisand is going to hate this by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 2, Informative
  20. The best use by doconnor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The best use of these maps would be load them into a racing game and allow you to race around the city of your choice.

  21. Do no evil by kramerino · · Score: 2, Funny

    I believe the actual quote from the google spokesperson was "We're going to build trucks equipped with frickin' lasers on top of their heads."

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  23. Re:Better idea by yellowbkpk · · Score: 2, Informative

    All of your ideas are great ones and can be acomplished with Google Maps right now, plus a little work.

    1) Your elevation idea is very good. Elevation data can be found from the USGS website and others. Plot it on the map with different colored "pins" representing the different heights and you've got yourself a topo map.

    2) Downloading GPS tracks has also already been done. I can't find the URL right now, but someone has done it. Check out http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Google-Maps/br owse_frm/thread/a6ff645e0cc619c7/78d99f027d95aa1b# 78d99f027d95aa1bthis thread at google groups about drawing custom trails.

    3) Downloading the route to GPS also sounds like something that could be done quite easily, as the route data from a driving directions request is returned as pairs of latitude and longitude decimals (in XML, too). Parse the latitude and longitude data into waypoints for your GPS unit and voila, you have yourself handheld driving directions!

  24. Best videogame, EVAR! by chaboud · · Score: 2, Funny

    Seriously, this sort of data collection could lead to:

    A) Awesome video games
    B) Large questions about privacy when Google scans you in your house
    C) Really awesome video games

  25. No, that's the Stanford Grand Challenge vehicle by Animats · · Score: 2, Funny
    That's not the Google mapping truck. That's Stanford's entry in the DARPA Grand Challenge,, which is a Volkswagen Touareg with a bunch of SICK laser line scanners mounted on a roof rack. The scanners all face generally forward and down, which is right for automatic driving but wrong for city modelling.

    Those old Quonset huts are on Stock Farm Road near Campus Drive. The Stanford Solar Car project and the Grand Challenge team use them.

  26. Re:I know that barn! by ramakant · · Score: 2

    No, not "until recently". Those huts ARE the Stanford Solar Car Project huts. I worked on it while I was in school there, and was over there less than a week ago helping them get ready for the North American Solar Challenge. There is no "secret" Google mapping truck hidden there. The only thing that is there other than the solar car is Stanford's entry into the DARPA Grand Challenge. As a side note, those buildings also aren't 65 years old. They were built in the 60's to house an operations workshop.

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  28. Re:E&S by cosmic_0x526179 · · Score: 2, Funny
    There must be something clever/neat/subversive, er special, about the google truck. I bet it has a terrorist sensor.

    Right. Combine that with the face recognition software that the Tampa PD uses (used ?) and the real story here is that the google trucks are cruising the Castro looking for Usama Bin Laden and his buddy Omar. Any minute now HSD will announce the capture of the terrible twosome at an undisclosed location

    Remember, you heard it here first.

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