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Public Transit Reality Game

Corngood writes "Like Pacmahattan, but with streetcars. Toronto designer Joel Friesen has created a giant game of tag using cell phones and Toronto's public transit system. Live Action Scotland Yard (L.A.S.Y.) is a giant game of hide and seek. One guy tries to hide by using the subway system while three or four other people have to find out where he is by the clues he leaves and the dispatchers phoned in instructions. The game starts this Saturday the 23rd, he's looking for more players. It's free, promotes public transport, and there will be beers afterwards."

175 comments

  1. It would suck by zegebbers · · Score: 2, Funny

    If the guy decided to give out fake clues

    1. Re:It would suck by drsquare · · Score: 2, Funny

      Another reason it will suck:

      Going on my experience of the costs and reliability of public transport, this game will take three weeks and will cost about fifty quid per participant. That's if the drivers aren't on strike. And you don't get murdered at the bus stop.

    2. Re:It would suck by TwentyLeaguesUnderLa · · Score: 1

      Well, according to the way this is described: 1) It would take no longer than one day 2) A prerequisite of participating is either a "monthly pass" or a "day pass," so basically the entire cost of playing is either a couple of dollars (day pass, estimated cost from experience in US) or nothing (for the people that already use public transportation enough to have a monthly pass).

    3. Re:It would suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      >> Going on my experience of the costs and reliability of public transport, this game will take three weeks and will cost about fifty quid per participant. That's if the drivers aren't on strike. And you don't get murdered at the bus stop.

      RTFA, it's Toronto, not Buttfuck, Idaho.

  2. Summary is redundant by JahToasted · · Score: 4, Funny

    Its an activity taking place in Canada. The part about having beer afterward is implied.

    1. Re:Summary is redundant by ForteMaster · · Score: 1

      I resent that.

      In Canada, having beer WHILE doing something is implied. I'm tired of this stereotype, like how we pronounce aboot "about" and how we don't live in igloos. It makes me SICK,

    2. Re:Summary is redundant by IamGarageGuy+2 · · Score: 1

      I'm from Canada. Sorry, you may not like it, but that's life. The vast majority of activities outside work involve beer. BTW - I have nothing wrong with that at all.

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    3. Re:Summary is redundant by uberdave · · Score: 1

      The vast majority of activities outside work involve beer.

      You say that like activities inside work don't involve beer.

    4. Re:Summary is redundant by incubusnb · · Score: 1
      as a Canadian, all i can say is that i'm drunk right now... as a matter of fact, i was drunk when i woke up, i was drunk at work, and i was drunk after work

      i don't recall being sober at any time in the past 3 years... i love being a Canadian

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    5. Re:Summary is redundant by Malc · · Score: 1

      Eeek. Canadians don't know how to drink. I'm a Briton living in Toronto and waiting for Canadian citizenship... I can show you how to drink. And whilst we're on the subject, I'm bored to tears with this stereotype about American beer. I'm in California for a week and the local brews are so much better than in Canada. I will go to Smokeless Joes when I return, but I will probably drink European imports there *sigh*

    6. Re:Summary is redundant by dasdrewid · · Score: 1

      Its an activity taking place ___________. The part about having beer afterward is implied.

      Though, my being in college might have clouded my reality a bit...

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    7. Re:Summary is redundant by VagaStorm · · Score: 1

      The vast majority of activities outside work involve beer. You say that like activities inside work don't involve beer.

      So how dos one get to move to Canada? :D

    8. Re:Summary is redundant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love the fact that a pathetically nationalist/racist comment such as this can be modded to "5:Funny". All of Slashdot's staff are fat, greasy geeks with bottle rim glasses. It may not be true, but hey - mark it as funny.

    9. Re:Summary is redundant by gstoddart · · Score: 1
      Its an activity taking place in Canada. The part about having beer afterward is implied.

      And to fit in with the rest of the people on public transit, you could even start with a few beers.

      When you get caught, you have to drink. And if you spill your beer (or get it confiscated by transit cops) you're it, and you have to drink. :-P
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    10. Re:Summary is redundant by Archibald+Buttle · · Score: 1

      :-)

      In this case the beer afterwards should, of course, be at Scotland Yard, the pub, on The Esplanade. A very nice pub.

      I miss living in Toronto.

  3. Hmm.. Game? by felipin-sioux · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    No, thanks.. I'm too LAzY to play it.

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  4. Why so complex? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just have six beers and get over it :)

  5. "Dupers" Reality Game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In this new and quite popular reality-based game, various stories are re-submitted to the editors of Slashdot in an attempt to out-dupe your opponents!

  6. Who read the page? lol by someguy456 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    reat idea..

    Since it is 'Live action' though would be good to come up with a way to get away from the 'turn based' concept of the board game and move towards a more real-time based game.

    Would also be interresting to incorporate clues as to mr. X's whereabouts instead of completely revealing the location.

    Would also be good to reduce the person at HQ to one or two people who relay the clues to the detectives to alow more people to be out in the field.

    1. Re:Who read the page? lol by q-the-impaler · · Score: 1

      In the real Scotland Yard boardgame, knowing exactly where Mr. X was ever few turns was hard enough. Also, playing Mr. X was the only real fun part of the game. The rest of it was trying to catch Mr. X quickly so that you could finally be Mr. X. Still, it is a family favorite of mine.

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  7. erm by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Is it just me or does anyone else find games fun because all you need is your thumbs?

    I have bad legs (was born with a club foot etc. and had a lot of surgery to fix it, but still not perfect) and find things like this and DDR more painful then fun.

    So for some people who can enjoy them, WTF is the fun in stamping on pads or riding trains?

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    1. Re:erm by Mozk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well when you say stamping on pads or riding trains, it doesn't sound fun at all. That'd be like me saying WTF is the fun in pushing buttons. There's more to it than that.

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    2. Re:erm by The+Amazing+Fish+Boy · · Score: 1

      Is it just me or does anyone else find games fun because all you need is your thumbs?

      So for some people who can enjoy them, WTF is the fun in stamping on pads or riding trains?


      Ever heard of endorphins?

    3. Re:erm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't have any thumbs you insensitive clode...

    4. Re:erm by justforaday · · Score: 1

      Is it just me or does anyone else find games fun because all you need is your thumbs?

      Ummm, there are quite a few fun games that don't involve using your thumbs. In fact, the only games I can think of that only use your thumbs are video games and thumb wrestling. There's a whole other world out there (if you're willing to leave the basement)...

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    5. Re:erm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have forgotten "Thumb Up Your Ass Beacuse Life Delt You A Club Foot". That's fun, almost as fun as trolling /.(.)

    6. Re:erm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dunno how you play Scotland Yard with only your thumbs but I imagine it'd look really funny, like a mongoloid child trying to solve a math problem.

    7. Re:erm by Palal · · Score: 1

      So I guess you're not a transit buff... what else is new?

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    8. Re:erm by It'sYerMam · · Score: 1

      While we all appreciate the fact that some people aren't able to partake in outdoor activities, possibly including those who are chronically indisposed to sunlight, just because one subset of people cannot enjoy them doesn't mean the rest don't.

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    9. Re:erm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is it that most people who are indispossed to sunlight are whiny little bitches?

    10. Re:erm by Vacuous · · Score: 1

      I've recently tried out DDR and quickly became quite addicted to it. I'm sure the reasons differ from person to person but the reason I enjoy is mainly the challange and the competition with friends (Although most of my friends who play have skills to the point i'll never catch up). The added bonus of some actual excersize is a nice bonus as well.

  8. OMG by ForumTroll · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wow, hide and seek with cell phones....

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  9. "Reality game"? by wankledot · · Score: 4, Funny
    I guess all those times I played hide-and-go-seek in the woods when I was a little kid now qualify as a "reality game."

    Good to know.

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    1. Re:"Reality game"? by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, my first thought was "Reality game? You need a special term for games that aren't electronic?" But I guess there are people who have never played a game without peering at a video screen. Pretty sad, really.

  10. I can see it now: by Bananatree3 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Boss: So, Mr. Jones, What did you do on your lunch break?


    Mr.Jones: Well, a couple of my coworkers and I played this really cool game of high-tech tag!! I was AWSOME!!


    Boss: I See. {ahem}. Do you know you're an adult, Mr. Jones?


    Mr.Jones: Yes, I know it sounds dumb, but it was really REALLY FUN!

    1. Re:I can see it now: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -1 You're a moron.

    2. Re:I can see it now: by SlayerDave · · Score: 1
      Boss: So, Mr. Jones, What did you do on your lunch break? Mr.Jones: Well, a couple of my coworkers and I played this really cool game of high-tech tag!! I was AWSOME!!

      Must have been a looooong lunch break if you have to move around on public transit.

    3. Re:I can see it now: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mr. Jones wishes he was someone just a little more funky When everybody loves you, son, that's just about as funky as you can be

  11. ".....and there will be beers afterwards." by charon_1 · · Score: 0

    I don't think anyone would go if it weren't for that.

  12. Not a new idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thats not really a new idea.
    I did that almost ten years ago with a youth group on munich's public transport system.
    Though we weren't using cellphones then (of course) we all had telephone cards and coordinated thing via phone booths.
    Of course the limitation of only being able to call after stopping in a station slowed the "capture" down significantly.

  13. Obscure? by Hwatzu · · Score: 5, Funny

    The winner will be the first one who makes it to Mornington Crescent.

    1. Re:Obscure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obscure?

      I hope not. :D

    2. Re:Obscure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Head in a "Northern" direction. Just be sure to Mind the Gap.

    3. Re:Obscure? by isorox · · Score: 1

      But with Queensway AND Terminal 4 closed, the only legal move is a Shaftsbury Loop via Gants Hill.

    4. Re:Obscure? by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      You're playing Canadian Set rules though, so Mornington Crescent can only be reached following a parallel move from a position in spoon, surely?

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    5. Re:Obscure? by It'sYerMam · · Score: 1

      Specifically, playing the Toronto subset, meaning that the Marmelade Sandwich rule for unblocking Paddington is replaced with the Beer Drinking Rule.

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  14. Technology: Pro/Con by LordMyren · · Score: 4, Informative

    this is awsome. i spent many years of my youth enjoying scotland yard. a truly fantastic game; get the boardgame or get the recent OS independent python implmeneted London Law free computer game remake (as mentioned on slashdot).

    the down sides:
    - cell phone reception in the tube: ass.
    - planting RFID clues will get you shot as a terrorist.
    - (generall) RFID lacks sufficient range to be truly useful for this

    it'd be much cooler if you could start tagging the real world & leaving markups on things. subways, unfortunately, while one of the coolest places to do this, are also some of the most likely to get you shot on sight for being a terrorist.

    myren

    1. Re:Technology: Pro/Con by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

      "- cell phone reception in the tube: ass."

      You should find a better place to keep your phone.

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    2. Re:Technology: Pro/Con by quantaman · · Score: 1

      "- cell phone reception in the tube: ass."

      You should find a better place to keep your phone.


      Well with all the people talking out of there it only seems natural.

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    3. Re:Technology: Pro/Con by madhippy · · Score: 1

      it'd be much cooler if you could start tagging the real world & leaving markups on things. subways, unfortunately, while one of the coolest places to do this, are also some of the most likely to get you shot on sight for being a terrorist.

      you could always use 'virtual' tags ... using pda connected to gps, enter a 'tag' which gets sent to a webservice noting the tag details and position ... anyone else coming close to that location could be prompted by their own gps/pda that a tag exists and downloads it .... (just need gps to work underground and in built up areas really well)

    4. Re:Technology: Pro/Con by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 1

      cell phone reception in the tube: ass.

      At least it's accidental, there. Here in the US they intentionally cut off service in the NYC subway because the terrorists might use cell phones to set off a bomb.

    5. Re:Technology: Pro/Con by isorox · · Score: 1

      cell phone reception in the tube: ass.

      Thank god, the only place on the surface of the planet that you don't get "I'M ON THE TRAIN! I'LL BE HOME IN FIVE MINUTES! I'M GOING TO SHOUT ABOUT MY BORING LIFE"

      Instead you get deathly silence and no eye contact (it's illegal y'know)

  15. I know I'm a party-pooper, but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is NOT the time for (deliberately) anomalous behaviour on public transit.

    1. Re:I know I'm a party-pooper, but ... by Skater · · Score: 1

      One of my coworkers was telling me he took the Washington, DC Metro to a conference Thursday. He was carrying (actually rolling behind him) a fairly large, heavy suitcase, which had a laptop and a rather large projector in it. He said that people were looking at him nervously, and they'd get especially jumpy when he tried to get something out of it...

    2. Re:I know I'm a party-pooper, but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tourists maybe, I don't know anyone around here that really gives a crap, except maybe the police, and even they don't really care.

    3. Re:I know I'm a party-pooper, but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is NOT the time for (deliberately) anomalous behaviour on public transit.

      We're Canadian: we think we're so nice and well liked that no one would ever attack us.

      (And yes, I live in Toronto and use the TTC (public transit) quite often.)

    4. Re:I know I'm a party-pooper, but ... by Zordak · · Score: 1

      Funny, that's what the residents of Hiroshiman and Nagasaki thought about this time 60 years ago.

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    5. Re:I know I'm a party-pooper, but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What kind of idiocy is that? When you're in a war, you don't expect that you're "generally well liked" and that "nobody would want to attack" you. At that point, the residents of Hiroshima and Nagasaki most certainly were involved in a war, and when you're in a war, you know somebody hates you enough to want to kill you. To think otherwise is fantastically stupid.

      Please note that I am in no way making a statement either affirming or disputing any moral, political, or any other position regarding the dropping of nuclear bombs.

    6. Re:I know I'm a party-pooper, but ... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Ohmigawd! He's going to PowerPoint the subway car! Getim!

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    7. Re:I know I'm a party-pooper, but ... by Malc · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh don't be such a drama queen. Life goes on, and more importantly it must be seen to go on. Some irrelevant wankers with bombs aren't going to interrupt this. Well, at least I'm certainly not going to give them the time of day and change how I behave. And you willing to help them (e.g. by acknowledging them)?

    8. Re:I know I'm a party-pooper, but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Funny, that's what the residents of Hiroshiman and Nagasaki thought about this time 60 years ago.

      Unlike London and NYC, they were told well in advance they were hated and would be killed.

      Perhaps they might have taken the threat more seriously if we had written it as such:

      WE HAVE SET UP YOU THE BOMB.
      YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE MAKE YOUR TIME !!

    9. Re:I know I'm a party-pooper, but ... by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 1

      What do you mean? An entire metro car full of Linux/Macintosh fanatics?

    10. Re:I know I'm a party-pooper, but ... by Hannah+E.+Davis · · Score: 1

      As others have pointed out, we're talking about Canada here. We may be next door to the US, but for the most part, we just yawned at the London bombings along with our British kin and went about our business.

      Besides, there are always weirdos on public transit. I see people with martial arts practice weapons on the bus in Vancouver from time to time (and have transported my practice kendo sword via the Ottawa transit system in the past), people wearing strange costumes from LARP/etc., and there are always the random hobos who sit and mutter to themselves in a corner somewhere. Are a few geeks playing a game really going to draw that much attention? I suspect that most people, including the police, will just ignore them.

    11. Re:I know I'm a party-pooper, but ... by Pollardito · · Score: 1
      off-topic: i was looking in your journal and found this entry :
      Ellen Feiss: She did one of the Apple "Switch" ads. Here's a link to the page on Apple.com for her. You used to be able to watch the videos there, but I didn't see them now (after only a quick look). She became an internet sensation, unlike most of the rest of the Switch people, because...well, because these things happen and no one can explain them.
      the reason that she became a sensation and not the rest of the Switch crew was because she was the one that was clearly on drugs when filming her video. i hope you're able to track it down because it's hilarious, i could email it to you to watch if you like.
    12. Re:I know I'm a party-pooper, but ... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      No, just people who don't want to be hit with bullet-point presentations. (Even piecharts in the face wouldn't be enjoyable.)

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    13. Re:I know I'm a party-pooper, but ... by CGP314 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is NOT the time for (deliberately) anomalous behaviour on public transit.

      OK. We'll have everyone sit on their asses doing nothing interesting until when it IS the time. How long should we wait? One month? A year? Five years?

      -Colin

    14. Re:I know I'm a party-pooper, but ... by Skater · · Score: 1

      I saw the video years ago and didn't really think it was "sensation-worthy". But that's just me. :)

    15. Re:I know I'm a party-pooper, but ... by Skater · · Score: 1

      Only if Edward Tufte was around. :)

    16. Re:I know I'm a party-pooper, but ... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Some people can terrorize with mere coloured chalk.

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  16. I'd love to go by BHearsum · · Score: 1

    But I don't have a cell phone anymore. Anyone want to loan me one?

    1. Re:I'd love to go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm not falling for that one again...

  17. Perhaps Dangerous by Laivincolmo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How long will it be before one of these player, just trying to have fun, will be arrested for suspicious behavior around public transportation? The times we live in are sad.

    1. Re:Perhaps Dangerous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wish I could say Canada was much better off than the US, terror-wise, but after the London attacks, the government (and, undoubtedly, police officers with attitude problems) is keyed up pretty high these days.

      At least the people are still chill, for the most part.

    2. Re:Perhaps Dangerous by lawpoop · · Score: 1
      How about the players notify officials if they are going to play the game?

      But wait, that would be the perfect cover for terrorist who *really are* plotting something.

      OTOH, this would be *perfect* training for a strike team trying to catch a mystery perosn in a public transit system.

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    3. Re:Perhaps Dangerous by HermanAB · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Relax d00d - this is Canada. There are a few places left in the world where people are reasonably sane and the police are friendly and helpful...

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    4. Re:Perhaps Dangerous by wing03 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How long will it be before one of these player, just trying to have fun, will be arrested for suspicious behavior around public transportation? The times we live in are sad.

      With a big X on a red shirt and a D on a yellow shirt....

      The location looks very much like the heart of downtown Toronto. I think they'll fit right in with University of Toronto engineering students doing goofy things and looking like a sore thumb.

    5. Re:Perhaps Dangerous by Palal · · Score: 1

      Actually TTC has been known for its harassment of transit buffs lately, although things were 180 degrees backwards a few decades ago.. I wouldn't expect for this to be any different... I guess the players have to learn the rules what we transit buffs knew all along... well... all along since 9/11.

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    6. Re:Perhaps Dangerous by neo · · Score: 1

      There are a few places left in the world where people are reasonably sane and the police are friendly and helpful...

      Like the time the policeman pointed to the corner where the hunted player was. TAG! Hahahaha the cop totally gave you away!!!

    7. Re:Perhaps Dangerous by HermanAB · · Score: 1

      Part of the stated mission of the RCMP is to promote tourism. Some police in red dress uniform are always present at popular tourist spots and you can walk up, chat and pet the horse.

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  18. Free by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 3, Insightful
    there will be beers afterwards

    Free beers? That's an importnat factor in the decision tree.

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    1. Re:Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The beers will be Free*...

      *Free as in beer.

    2. Re:Free by Pollardito · · Score: 1

      i imagine it is more like "free beer as in freedom", in that you're welcome to drink a beer at the after-party

  19. Maybe I'm missing something by temi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or maybe it's just me. I feel like a game like this catching on around the tech world is really a bad idea. In the wake of terrorist bombings on mass transit and cellphone detonation scares, its kind of like playing soccer in a field of landmines....

    1. Re:Maybe I'm missing something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In other words... the terrorists have won?

      Go out there and play.

    2. Re:Maybe I'm missing something by cduffy · · Score: 1

      Oh, come on now. Your chances are much, much better of being hit by a car or mugged in plain daylight while walking on the sidewalk rather than being caught in such an action. Fears on the topic (presuming you consider walking on the sidewalk a reasonable activity) are thus unreasonable -- and if you're letting the terrorists engender unreasonable fears... well, there's a tired old phrase that might be due to be trotted out yet again.

    3. Re:Maybe I'm missing something by temi · · Score: 1
      I would give your response more validity normally, but in reality the stats you used are of a more linear nature, while the overreaction/backlash to terrorist activities at this point in the 1st world is more impulse-like in nature.

      My comments of this being a likely problem are in complete context of our current state-of-the-world view on terrorism.

      So yes "if you let the terrorist engender unreasonable fears, then they have already won"
      but... if you are bold enough to ignore plain-sight common sense then you are dead.

      I think "better safe than sorry" trumps the other annoying cliche.

    4. Re:Maybe I'm missing something by QuantumG · · Score: 1

      God I hate that argument. Seriously. "The terrorists" have not "won" if they stop you from playing a stupid game. They havn't "won" until we start picketting our government to stop bombing their fuckin' country or whatever the hell else it is that they want us, as citizens of democratic countries, to take responsibility for.

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    5. Re:Maybe I'm missing something by Meshach · · Score: 1
      Or maybe it's just me. I feel like a game like this catching on around the tech world is really a bad idea. In the wake of terrorist bombings on mass transit and cellphone detonation scares, its kind of like playing soccer in a field of landmines....
      So are you saying cell phones should be banned in subway stations?

      The whole point of this game is to utilize something that everyone already has (a cellphone). There is no increaced security risk whatsoever.
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    6. Re:Maybe I'm missing something by op00to · · Score: 1

      I like my landmines, thank you very much.

    7. Re:Maybe I'm missing something by noidentity · · Score: 1

      its kind of like playing soccer in a field of landmines....

      The landmines being the hair-trigger populace waiting to yell "terrorist!" at anything that moves (unless it's on TV).

    8. Re:Maybe I'm missing something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> maybe it's just me

      Yeah. It's just you. You are the only one thinking this.

    9. Re:Maybe I'm missing something by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      I think I understand what you mean.

      What I don't like are knee-jerk reactions, like the kind that got us the PATRIOT act, and I think we need to start educating people not to respond irrationally. It is an uphill battle though.

    10. Re:Maybe I'm missing something by cduffy · · Score: 1
      but... if you are bold enough to ignore plain-sight common sense then you are dead.
      We differ about whether this falls within the realm of "plain-sight common sense". Even if the risk were significant, which I refuse to accept:

      Hospitalized if you're especially unlucky, maybe. Dead? Not so likely. And if you are unlucky enough to be harmed -- well, you get to be a poster child for why people shouldn't react unreasonably (with potential for media coverage, and a succesful lawsuit on the part of yourself or your survivors to recover for wrongful death/medical costs/pain-and-suffering/etc).

      My city (despite its size) doesn't have enough mass-transit options for this game -- but if it did, I'd be in. As for the potential negative consequences, (1) I don't believe it'd happen to me, and (2) if it *did* happen to me, there's a good chance that something positive [ie. a publicized example of why people shouldn't overreact] could be made out of it.

      Granted, I don't overvalue my life as much as some people do.

    11. Re:Maybe I'm missing something by cduffy · · Score: 1

      There's a distinction between winning a battle and winning a war, you know. One can win on a small(er) scale, without achieving one's ultimate, strategic goals.

      Showing any substantial amount of societal-level reaction in response to an attack which generates only a tiny number of casualties (compared to, say, automobile accidents or heart attacks) is arguably demonstrating that such actions are capable of causing a disproportionate response -- supporting the conclusion that perhaps, in the future, a large response in line with strategic goals such as those you mentioned might be feasible.

    12. Re:Maybe I'm missing something by Malc · · Score: 1

      Oh please! The point is moot: cell/mobile phones don't work in subway/tube/metro stations. Please engage your brains people and stop being drama queens.

    13. Re:Maybe I'm missing something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is in Canada. We are well known for not being delusional up here.

    14. Re:Maybe I'm missing something by temi · · Score: 1
      Im just saying....

      UK Police: Man Killed Unrelated to Probe

      Im just saying.

    15. Re:Maybe I'm missing something by cduffy · · Score: 1

      One person, out of hundreds of thousands. I'll take those chances.

  20. Later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Boss: Something is happening here. But you don't know what it is. Do you, Mr. Jones?

  21. Very off topic ... by I+don't+want+to+spen · · Score: 1
    ...but I can't be the only one who read the quote at the bottom as:

    If you lose a son you can always get another, but there's only one Millenium Falcon. -- Sidney Greenstreet, "The Maltese Falcon"

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    1. Re:Very off topic ... by rbarreira · · Score: 1

      :)

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  22. The perfect way... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for a bunch of hosers to their spend time and their parent's money putting the wunnerful public mass transportation system to (good?) use. If you want to generate good publicity for mass transportation, justify the expense of it.

  23. May be the game would be more fun if they give the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    beers before it.

  24. Great moments in timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Introverted, suspicious-looking people acting strange on public transportation. What a wonderful point in history to do this! Maybe the next game should have something to do with box cutters and airplanes.

    1. Re:Great moments in timing by Clueless+Moron · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Introverted, suspicious-looking people acting strange on public transportation. What a wonderful point in history to do this!

      What it means is that in Canada the terrorists have not won.

    2. Re:Great moments in timing by Aerion · · Score: 1

      Or perhaps, just like the rest of the world, the terrorists have written off Canada as a negligible sustainable loss.

      (Kidding, kidding! ... Right?)

    3. Re:Great moments in timing by Anti_Climax · · Score: 1

      (Score:5, Insightful) Doesn't begin to measure that comment.

      My hat is off to you sir...

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    4. Re:Great moments in timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too bad for them. Meanwhile, we will continue to enjoy the highest standard of living in the world. We even get more sex than everyone else.

    5. Re:Great moments in timing by ryanov · · Score: 1

      Introverted, suspicious-looking people acting strange on public transportation. What a wonderful point in history to do this!

      Hey, man, I don't know about Canada, but you've clearly never ridden mass transit in the NYC area. Introverted, suspicious-looking people are nothing new to mass transit.

    6. Re:Great moments in timing by inKubus · · Score: 1

      "In the United States from 1980 through 1995, a total of 1318 deaths were attributed to lightning, (average: 82 deaths per year {range: 53-100 deaths})."

      Do you go around all day worrying about being struck down by lightning? No? Then why, on earth, are you worrying about dying in a way that's just as unlikely?

      Life's too short people. Don't throw it away living in fear. That's what they want you to do. Go out, keep going, have fun.

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  25. Basis by n00dles · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is based on a reasonably enjoyable board game.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_Yard_board_g ame

  26. will they have virtual smells??? by squarefish · · Score: 1

    virtual reality won't let you know what it really smells like on a bus...
    sometimes that's the best (worse?) part.

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  27. Other games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I was in the Bronx yesterday and someone had just finished up a live game of Unreal Tournament,...oh, maybe it was just a driveby shooting.

    1. Re:Other games by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 1

      m-m-m-m-m-monster kil-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l

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  28. Oh boy by QuantumG · · Score: 1

    Ya know, I just have this vision of 20+ geeks trying to recapture their lost youth by arranging to meet in the woods and play hide and seek. Maybe staying home and playing on the C64 all day long as kids really did have a negative effect on us, just like our mothers told us it would.

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  29. BlindMan by MacFury · · Score: 2, Funny

    BlindMan: What the hell is so great about being able to interpet various intensities of light?

  30. s/engender/provoke/ by cduffy · · Score: 1

    damnit.

  31. NO!!!!!!! by themoodykid · · Score: 1

    If we cannot engage in hijinx on public transit, then the terrorists have won!! We cannot let them win! LET TEH HIJINX BEGAN!!!!!!!!11111onehundredeleven

  32. gameplay inclusions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will the game include piss? Last time I was on the subway there was a lot of piss, and it wasn't all mine.

    1. Re:gameplay inclusions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      poop piss poop piss thats the subway for me and their sandwhiches

  33. Looking for more players? by yrogerg · · Score: 1
    Yeah, great idea to advertise here. We all know what happenes when a website gets /.'ed.

    What happens when a city transit system is invaded?

  34. Mr. X, where do you want to go today? by PhilipOfOregon · · Score: 1
    This is just the thing to go with the London Cabbie Game. http://www.hellodere.com/cabbie.htm/ Cabbies play it live-action in London every day.

    It gets rather surreal when you play both on the same day. Scotland Yard does that a lot -- they even get paid to play it!

  35. A true reality game: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    One guy tries to hide by using the subway system while three or four other people have to find out where he is by the clues he leaves and the dispatchers phoned in instructions.

    Whereupon he is mugged by three or four people and has his cell phone stolen.
  36. I've done this by Stu22 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Two years ago I was at an IDSA student conference in Boston with my classmates. The building they held the conference in was about 15 stories tall, and there was a lightboard on one of the walls that said which floor each elevator was on. We tracked down two walkie-talkies and did this basic premise. One person would get on the elevators and have a 30 second head start, one person would then follow with a walkie talkie, and a third person would stand at the lightboard with the other walkie talkie, trying to lead the chaser to the runner.

    We had to make additional rules to make it possible in a reasonable amount of time, you couldn't send the elevator to a floor without actually being on it, or get on the same elevator twice in a row. We also made the floor with the conference on it off-limits.

    If you ever get a chance to play a game like this I highly reccomend it, especially if it's inappropriate for the situation.

    1. Re:I've done this by Palal · · Score: 1

      Well... this would be really fun with 'express' and 'local' elevators, but with the elevator traffic my building gets, it would be nearly impossible :)

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    2. Re:I've done this by Stu22 · · Score: 1

      Thats why it worked so well, the building was empty except for the conference, which was taking place on only two floors.

  37. London Tube as Star Trek Transporter by Latent+Heat · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Some years ago I had a business trip to London, but I got there a day early.

    So, thoroughly jet lagged, I decided to do all of the touristy places in London -- St Paul's, Westminster Abbey, Piccadily Circus, etc -- using a day pass to the Tube.

    I would go to a station, pick out some name of some destination I had heard of, pick out a route, board a train, and off I would go.

    This method would take me smack dab in the middle of all of these places, but of course I had no idea how I had gotten there because all of the travel was under ground -- I would just materialize in one or other scene out of a tourist guidebook in the manner of a Star Trek transporter just beaming me there.

    It was a bit disconcerting because one would pop out of the ground and it took a while to get one's bearings. And like Kirk telling his compatriots "remember where we parked!", it was helpful to remember how to get back to the Underground Station.

    1. Re:London Tube as Star Trek Transporter by QuantumG · · Score: 1

      Heh, you think that's bad. Ya know all those maps you studied to figure out how to get from point A to point B on the tube? Well they don't correspond to the geographical positions of the stations! You probably caught a train for 20 minutes to get between two stations that are only 3 minutes walking distance apart. As such, most people who live in London have very bad mental maps of the place.

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    2. Re:London Tube as Star Trek Transporter by TexVex · · Score: 1

      The passes also work for the buses. The double-deckers offer great views.

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    3. Re:London Tube as Star Trek Transporter by ross.w · · Score: 1

      Only if you have an intelligent bus driver. I actually once got my day ticket refused at Marylebone by an ignoramus bus driver because my ticket had the London Underground logo on it and not the bus one. I went back and used the Tube instead.

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    4. Re:London Tube as Star Trek Transporter by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      Erm, TBH, I'm pretty sure regular underground tickets and bus tickets are separate things...

    5. Re:London Tube as Star Trek Transporter by shadow0_0 · · Score: 1

      I found this out the hard way when I was over there a few months ago. However, I somehow retained a mental copy of the tube map after a few days so I dont even need to consult it much :)
      And what is with the Bank station? It takes ages to change line there....

  38. Help to sustain one of the most expensive transit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Toronto's system is VERY expensive for $2 a trip leg you don't get much for your buck, take houston for example the $2 day pass lets you trip houston from pole to pole all day long, 24 hours since you start using the pass, THAT is value THAT is alternative transportation THAT makes sense

  39. Pretty reasonable emulation of the original by CokeJunky · · Score: 1

    As a former torontonian, and someone who still has a copy of the board game kicking around, I think this is a great idea. The rules they posted are pretty reasonable granting real life versus a game, so I will certainly check it out to see how it went.

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  40. Re:Help to sustain one of the most expensive trans by HermanAB · · Score: 1

    Well, I would think that anybody playing would already have a month pass, so it isn't going to cost them anything extra. I doubt that anyone from say NY would fly up to Teranna, to play this retarded game. I know that US beer is bad, but not That bad...

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  41. Re:London by waltznumber3 · · Score: 0

    even I found that was in bad taste

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  42. so... by theheff · · Score: 0

    do the subway bombings come in the original or are they sold seperately in the expansion pack?

  43. Thats why they'll... by msimm · · Score: 1

    All be wearing their official Slashdot sponsor shirts. Like duh!!

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  44. Well.Put by msimm · · Score: 1

    (sorry thats all)

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  45. Live Action Scotland Yard on the Tube by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Didn't they play this on 7/7?

  46. Uhh.. Redundant title alert. by OmgTEHMATRICKS · · Score: 1

    "Public Transit Reality Game"

    Reality game. That's just 'game' then.

    What next? "Children Play 'Revolutionary Plague Re-enactment' Reality Game"?

  47. Great timing... by beef_yo · · Score: 1
    Wow guys, great timing.

    Lets see how the public react to suspicious characters skulking round the subway system with cellphones.

    Why didn't you just call it 'hide the terrorist'.

    1. Re:Great timing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey dumbass.

      I'm sure the terrorists wear bright red and yellow shirts market with a "D" and an "X".

  48. I can think of an even more fun game. by The_Spectry · · Score: 1

    How about I drink all the beer then give totally random directions . The object of the game is to see whats happens first . Will I pass out or will the players give up ?

  49. Not a good idea.... by jzarling · · Score: 1

    Unless you want to go to jail.

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  50. Add paintball guns, however, and it could be fun.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...until a cop shoots a participant dead, thinking he has a real gun...o well...

  51. Pussies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All you ass-clowns who keep talking "Oh the terrorists," you've just let them win! I mean comeon, when a grown man/woman can't play a nice game of tag with cellphones and beer, what's wrong with this world?

    1. Re:Pussies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just by thinking about current global events means I've suddenly been overcome with terror? Tell that to the Glock I bought last weekend.

  52. Why Promote? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >
    > promotes public transport
    >

    Why would you need to promote public
    transport? Are you saying that not
    enough people are using it? Presumably
    if enough people are using it, you
    wouldn't need to "promote" it.

  53. About that risk level, again. by cduffy · · Score: 1

    Let's say, for the sake of an argument, that you were right -- that the chance of being harmed by a 3rd party while playing this game on account of being mistaken for engagement in terrorist activities were a substantial one.

    Let's say that this risk were 3x the ambient risk level of folks spending time outside in the city (muggings, automobile accidents, etc). I think this is an outrageously exaggerated number, but I'll grant it to you for the sake of this argument.

    Now: Do you consider it worthwhile to walk around outside? I do -- indeed, I used to spend time going for long walks in the supposedly "bad parts" of San Jose, CA at night, and presently go for walks at night near my home in Austin, TX (which, while not in a particularly bad part of town itself, happens to be rather near some relatively high-crime-rate areas -- certainly, onesuch is within the range I walk in). Of course, this is a personal assessment: How much are the exercise and mental-health benefits worth? Certainly, you may not consider such worthwhile -- but would you say that walking around outside in an urban area at night violates common sense?

    Now, if it's not inherently unreasonable for me to walk around town three nights after dark, is it somehow more unreasonable for me to spend one day playing a game with other members? Certainly, this game would have substantial benefits -- as an opportunity to meet people (thus, mental health and socialization benefis), an opportunity to become better acquainted with my city's public transit system, and also a chance to get some exercise. Is it untenable to evaluate these benefits as on-par with those of three of my evening strolls?

    About why I believe 3x (or even .1% of) the ambient risk to be a huge strech, btw: Remember, the things we hear about in the media are extreme outliers. They happen only to very small numbers of people -- and there are a lot of people in the world (even just the areas covered by 1st-world media), such that incidents which one hears about in the media even with substantial regularity still will quite frequently have a almost-nil probability of happening to you or I as individuals. Consequently, I find it much better (and healthier) to live a life without such fears.

  54. WHAT THE FUCK, ANOTHER? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WHO CARES!

  55. Coming to New York City??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If this thing comes to New York City, I'm in.

  56. Assassin by swordfishBob · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of a game from uni. All players would give the game controller a photocopy of their ID card, and receive someone else's. Your aim is to locate the person and their movements, advise the controller how and when you plan to "kill" them (e.g. water pistol on exit from class in room X at time Y), and collect whatever cards they're holding. Mark their card to show they're out.
    Winner holds all cards in the end.

    It was co-ordinated using (pre-Internet) email, but these days the options are more flexible.

    Of course the university's administration tried to ban the game.

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  57. This is in CANADA, not the US by Ummu · · Score: 0

    I see alot of people going, "You'll go in jail! OMFG!!!1", but they neglect to notice that this will take place in Canada. And that makes everything all right, because Canada doesn't have the resources to randomly bust people for looking shifty and being Arabic.

  58. wth by rupert0 · · Score: 1

    On wich state of drunkness you have to be, and go OMFG REALITY GAME OF Toronto's transit system !!! ?

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  59. Minneapolis by SEWilco · · Score: 1

    Maybe I should make sure he doesn't hide in the Minneapolis subway: the tunnel under the airport for the city's single passenger rail line.

  60. TTC Day Passes by DotNM · · Score: 2, Informative
    The TTC (Toronto Transit Commission) has day passes available at a rate of $8. This provides unlimited travel on all TTC routes (busses, streetcars and subways) for the entire day.

    From the TTC website:
    Unlimited* one-day travel on Saturdays**, Sundays and statutory holidays from the start of service until 5:30 a.m. the next morning, for a group of up to 6 people:

    2 adults alone, or with up to 4 Children/Youths (Youth = *19 years of age or under). or

    1 adult alone, or with up to 5 Children/Youths (Youth = *19 years of age or under).

    More info at http://www.toronto.ca/ttc

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  61. more like this on boardgamegeek.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More german games on /., excellent. There are two versions of Scotland Yard. The original: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/438 and a New York version, now out of print: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/534 If you think board games haven't changed much since you were a child, check out the geeks' Top 50: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/top50.htm Modern german games are soooo much better than Hasbro.

  62. One thing I don't understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    If person X has three different modes of transportation available to utilize, a bonus card to make one secret move at any time, and is informed of the detectives' positions at *all* times, then how can they possibly catch him?

    1. Re:One thing I don't understand by Bambi+Dee · · Score: 1

      The current location of X is revealed every five-or-so turns, as are the travel tickets X uses (every however many turns, I forget). So the detectives can try to deduce where X could have gone next and have to ensure it's somewhere with fewer and fewer travel options (such as close to the Thames, or a corner). Eventually, X "could only have gone here, there, or there" and the three-to-one advantage leads to situations not entirely unlike that of a beleaguered chess king. Or something. This is me recalling a board game I played twenty years ago, so...

      Informative review

    2. Re:One thing I don't understand by Bambi+Dee · · Score: 1

      Though frankly what the "reality" version sounds like is an exciting game of Wait For The Bus...

  63. Like assassins by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of the "Assassins" game we used to play back in High School. Basically a live action role-playing game where the GM would assign targets and innovative ways of ways of "killing" them like shooting them with a water pistol or planting some device which represented a bomb in their locker or whatever.

    Of course, nowadays high schoolers would probably get sent to Gitmo for playing such games. Back then it was against the rules but you were only risking detention, and that only contributed to the fun.

  64. StreetWars by krunk4ever · · Score: 1

    http://www.streetwars.net/

    although quite a different game, it does involve having a bunch of people from 1 city play it, probably people you've never met or heard of. a bunch of these city-wide games have emerged recently.

  65. warning - parent is harry potter spoiler by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    thankfully I was too busy reading the book to read slashdot

  66. GTA by rbarreira · · Score: 1

    Someone should spoil their party and organize a public GTA-like game in the same day :)

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    1. Re:GTA by Pulse_Instance · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't it just be easier to move the game NYC or LA and call the game life?

  67. this would be a great game by FUZee · · Score: 0

    if cell phones worked on the toronto subway system

  68. STOP! Homeland Security! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't wait until people start telling the authorities there is someone suspicious running around hiding. Might be a terrorist plot...
    ~Gildas

  69. public transit reality game by belle2005 · · Score: 1

    sounds weird for me.... seeing someone leaving clues. but the beers afterwards is a nice idea!