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New International Serenity Trailer Released

Tenken writes "The international Serenity trailer has just popped up online and it looks to be even shinier than the first. This new trailer doesn't really spell out the plot of the film as explicitly as the first one, but for that reason it may play better with fans. Chiwetel Ejiofor's "Operative" character is also shaping up to be one of those memorable Whedon villains along the lines of Jubal Early from the episode "Objects in Space.""

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  1. Can't wait! by nuknuk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    [fanboy]

    Someone tipped me off about the original TV series about a year ago...after getting the movies from Netflix, I was blown away by how great they are...what an unfortunate turn of events that they got cancelled so soon. I can't wait for this movie!

    [/fanboy]

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    1. Re:Can't wait! by Rei · · Score: 4, Funny

      Zoe: "You paid money for this, sir? On purpose?"

      Mal: "What? Come on, seriously, Zoe. Whaddya think?"

      Zoe: "Honestly, sir? I think you got robbed."

      Mal: "Robbed? What? No. What do you mean?"

      Zoe: "It's a piece of fei-oo." [fei-oo. = junk]

      Mal: "Fei-oo? Okay, she won't be winning any beauty contests anytime soon.
      But she's solid. Ship like this, be with ya 'til the day you die."

      Zoe: "Cause it's a deathtrap."

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    2. Re:Can't wait! by jeblucas · · Score: 4, Funny
      I know a lot of Slashdotters worship the ground he walks on and think is the next best thing since sliced bread.
      Gotta tell ya, I'm just not that impressed with sliced bread. I'm more of a whole loaf kind of guy. Pita, stuff like that.
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    3. Re:Can't wait! by Rei · · Score: 3, Interesting

      A couple things:

      A Firefly-fan friend of mine already saw the movie. He was very apprehensive after seing the trailers, and left quite, quite pleased with the movie (and has had to resist spoiling it for me).

      Unrealistic fight scenes

      How many fight scenes did you see in firefly? Or are you judging a movie and the series that it is based on from a few seconds of (barfight?) scene in a trailer?

      utterly anachronistic one-liners

      Actually, some of the best parts of Firefly are where one-liners would have been used in most shows, but weren't. For example, Mal's "huh.." after the discovery of River.

      cookie cutter set and ship design

      Firefly actually stands out in that they built the entire ship set as one complete piece.

      queue the messianic character

      Are you referring to River or Mal? If you're referring to River, I think the Bible would have been a lot more interesting with Jesus talking about how quickly the human body can be drained of blood given adequate vacuuming systems, claiming that he's a ship, speaking incoherently, and threatening to kill people with his brain.

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    4. Re:Can't wait! by georgewilliamherbert · · Score: 2, Informative
      I'm not going to mod you down despite having a fistfull of modpoints at the moment, but I just went and read your blogs, and I have to question your judgement and impartiality.

      What you're writing is sorta neat, but it's not necessarily edgy in a new and good manner.

      What I see in Joss' stuff is good characters with depth, that develop over time, and humor that is mostly achived by putting realistic characters in absurd (but in context for the assumed macguffins) situations and watching the results.

      You don't like it? Fine. But over 95% of the sci fi book writers out there can't do that well with their characters, situations, etc. Joss is good at what he does by any measure.

    5. Re:Can't wait! by StalinsNotDead · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think the Bible would have been a lot more interesting with Jesus talking about how quickly the human body can be drained of blood given adequate vacuuming systems, claiming that he's a ship, speaking incoherently, and threatening to kill people with his brain.

      What do you think is written in those secret books of the Bible kept in the vaults in the Vatican?

      In the Gospel of Vernon, threats of killing them with his brain was how Jesus got the money-changers out of the temple. And he mentioned the blood/vacuum thing as sort of an aside at the Last Supper, but the published Gospel writers chose to leave that part out.

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    6. Re:Can't wait! by Kazzahdrane · · Score: 2, Informative

      Almost, that line was said by Jayne :P (twice in the same episode, I might add)

    7. Re:Can't wait! by Tiger4 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I've seen the preview, and I have to say I disagree with the parent on some grounds, but not all.

      Whedon is formulaic, but formulaic like Silverado or Raiders of the Lost Ark were. He knows the genre and he knows what buttons to push and he tries to push all of them. That means he needs interesting plot twists and unexpected surprises, but it also means the audience knows that the "thump in the dark" is really a cat, and when they calm down the bad guys jumps out at you anyway.

      For example, this film has two characters that go in two completely different directions. One is, I think, indispensible to the plot. Interesting and dark and different. We need like this one. The other was totally forgettable. I think they created that one just to be sacrificed. That is formula too. You need cannon fodder so the hero can look heroic.

      Bottom line: Hollywood is about the money. They don't make what won't sell. Oddball may be artisically cool, but it goes straight to video, then the Late Late Show two weeks later. Whedon is making stuff that sells, and is getting as close to the edge as he dares.

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  2. Another version by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 4, Informative

    Another version of the trailer can be found at Apple - Trailers: Serenity.

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    1. Re:Another version by retinaburn · · Score: 2, Informative
    2. Re:Another version by Fourier · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's a completely different trailer. That one's been out for a couple of months already.

  3. I hate trailers... by tktk · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This new trailer doesn't really spell out the plot of the film as explicitly as the first one.

    Good. I hate watching trailers that give away too much of the film. The worse is when it's a particularly bad film and you realize that all the good parts were IN the trailer.

    1. Re:I hate trailers... by xami · · Score: 2, Funny
      The worse is when it's a particularly bad film and you realize that all the good parts were IN the trailer.

      Thinking of a certain movie you are, hm?

    2. Re:I hate trailers... by Serenity.Flan · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Good. I hate watching trailers that give away too much of the film." Having seen the film (5/5 screening in Seattle) I can tell you that neither of the trailers give away the plot in a way. :)

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  4. Re:will someone please explain this to me by Zediker · · Score: 2, Informative

    It was a popular series (popular among sci-fi fans) on fox when it was canceled pre-maturly. Thats why there is so much hype.

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  5. Re:will someone please explain this to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It'll be in theatres September 30th, dork.

    WTFT.

  6. Curse you!!! by JoeLinux · · Score: 4, Funny

    I got to 35%, when everyone else here on /. noticed the trailer too...and my work has Bittorrent blocked...

    *sigh*, so, here I am, downloading at a whopping 5k/s.

    Of all the days to stop taking methamphetamines...

  7. Firefly Podcast by lesinator · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm part of the team that produces The Signal, the only podcast in the 'verse totally dedicated to Firefly. http://www.serenityfirefly.com. The response from listners has just been amazing. We had to switch providers 12 hours after launch because of bandwidth problems. I'm sure the international trailer is about to have the same problems. Serenity is definitely one to keep your eyes out for even if you never saw the TV show.

  8. Jubal Early: Best. Dialog. Ever. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Early: "You know, with the exception of one deadly and unpredictable midget, this girl is the smallest cargo I've ever had to transport. Yet by far the most troublesome. Does that seem right to you?"

    Simon: "What'd he do?"

    Early: "Who?"

    Simon: "The midget."

    Early: "Arson. Little man loved fire."

    1. Re:Jubal Early: Best. Dialog. Ever. by Golias · · Score: 2, Funny

      Best moment in the whole series for me:

      Mal is in a life-and-death struggle with a man who was torturing him for hours. Just as he's getting the slight upper hand in the fight, his crew comes storming in with guns at the ready.

      When one crew member raises her gun, Zoe interrupts her...

      Zoe: "Wait... [earnestly] He has to do this himself."

      Mal: "No he doesn't!"

      Zoe: "Oh."

      Then the crew proceeds to shoot the bad guy. Priceless!

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  9. Plot by Sheepdot · · Score: 2, Funny

    Setting: Nice, calm and serene office for United International Pictures in the Netherlands.

    Premise: Evil technocrat (Taco) unleashes hordes of his minions on the poor defenseless webserver.

  10. The Series by KD5UZZ · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't forget, the Sci-Fi channel has picked up Firefly. They will be airing the orginal series, in the correct order, starting tomarrow (Friday) at 6pm central time.

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  11. Re:Am I the only one? by mynameisnotnick · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You must have seen the premier on Fox - like I did. I was bored senseless, turned it off and never watched again.

    Until, just a few months back, I gave in to all of my geek friends telling me how amazing it is and bought the DVDs. It's amazing.

    The problem with the show as I (and I assume, you) originally viewed it was that Fox showed the series out of order - the episode we saw had no context. We didn't know anything about the characters, universe, or meta-story.

    Rent/Buy the DVDs and watch them in order - you'll be glad you did.

    -gary

  12. If you haven't seen Firefly.... by thewiz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    get the DVDs!

    I remember seeing part of the first episode and thinking, "Eh, just a western set in the future." and (due to work obligations) never saw the rest of the episodes. I recently picked up the DVDs and was blown away by the quality of character development and story line! Light-years beyond what I'd thought when I saw the snippet when it originally aired.

    I'd really love to see Firefly come back to TV (SciFi Channel) and see more of what Josh Whedon has to offer! Can't wait for the movie!

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  13. Rent/buy dvds or watch it on SciFi by JLavezzo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Instead of buying them... you could watch the re-runs on SciFi...

  14. I concur by PCM2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There's clearly a certain type of sci-fi fan who hangs out on Slashdot whose tastes are totally different from my own. I, for example, really can't stand most anime, and even the stuff that's pretty good (Cowboy Bebop, for example) has some qualities about it that I find totally grating. But obviously a lot of Slashdot people love the hell out of the stuff.

    Similarly, I saw the first Serenity trailer and my immediate reaction was that this movie looks like one of the worst pieces of sci-fi fanboy garbage to hit the screen since The Chronicles of Riddick. Space ships, people shooting guns, "mercs," a hot chick doing kung fu ... this is exactly the kind of crap I expect to see on any given Tuesday on the Sci-Fi Channel. I like Star Wars, I like some (but very little) Star Trek, I like the new Battlestar Galactica, I'm a big fan of Doctor Who (both old and new) ... but this thing doesn't seem to have a single redeeming quality that would make me want to even rent it.

    Obviously, I must be missing something. Is it the subtleties of the plot, though, or is it just something in my genetic make-up?

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    1. Re:I concur by SpryGuy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If it helps, I can't stand Anime either. But FireFly (and the new Serenity movie) are nothing like that. And while the trailer may have concentrated on those aspects you cited, trust me that the show isn't "all about that" at all, or I would be completely bored with it.

      The show was all about the characters. The culture. The universe they inhabited. It wasn't about the sci-fi technology or technobabble or any of that stuff. It was about connections and motivations and wit.

      Seriously, give the show a chance. Rent the first DVD on NetFlix, or force yourself to watch the first four hours of the show on Sci-Fi when it reruns in August/September. Chances are, you'll get as hooked as I am. And if you do start watching the series, each episode gets generally better and better. I found the last episode ("Objects in Space") to be nothing short of brilliant.

      It's a show that's worth the investment and the risk. You will be rewarded.

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    2. Re:I concur by steve_bryan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...I saw the first Serenity trailer and my immediate reaction was...

      Please tell me you aren't trying to make a critical judgment about a body of work that comprises fourteen "hour" long episodes and now a feature film, based on a sixty second trailer? Do you do book reviews based on blurbs on the dust jacket?

      There is no telling if you would enjoy the movie but if you haven't ever seen the series it might be worth your time to rent the DVD's of the series. Like many others I saw a few of the oddly sequenced episodes when it was first shown and did not find it very interesting. Since seeing the episodes in order I'd say it is the most entertaining SF-related series I've seen on TV.

  15. Because they want the best release possible by arete · · Score: 4, Informative

    1. Each successive screening has been better than the previous. They're still in post-production and they're still improving stuff.

    They probably have a relatively small advertising budget. So,

    2. You don't want to compete with the summer blockbusters - because you don't want to compete with their advertising budget. So you schedule a fall release to not compete with them.

    3. You want to magnify your small $ as much as possible. So you release trailers on RELEVANT movies that interested people are going to see. And you do what you can to make your fans advertise for you for free/cheap.

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  16. Re:Am I the only one? by Shky · · Score: 5, Insightful

    over a show that couldn't even make it through one season?

    I certainly hope you're not saying that a show being canceled means it isn't good. All of my favorite shows have been canceled (at least once): Wonderfalls, Futurama, Farscape, Family Guy, and (though not officially) The Inside. Instead of these shows we have shows like So You Think You Can Dance. Cancelation != poor quality.

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  17. Re:Am I the only one? by TheCabal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yes, I saw the premiere on Fox, and predicted the show was going to get the axe. Shame on Fox for screwing it up like they did, but the premiere left me with no desire to see what the rest of the season was like. I don't think I'd even waste a selection getting it from Netflix at this point.

    Apart from BSG, the current state of sci-fi shows sucks. Fox killed off my other fav sci-fi show before its time... it seems they have a knack for doing that. At least with Firefly it wasn't upsetting.

  18. Re:good movie? by LqqkOut · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I'm a Firefly cult fan, so take this with a grain of salt.

    What I really liked about the show is that the characters aren't tired "bad boys", but instead is a revival of "The Han Who Shot First" and his adventures in the outer rim territories, his dealings with the Hutts, the rabble he associated with... Yes they run outside the law, but it's refreshing to see situations where there's no clear "sheep" answer to a situation. Case in point: Train Job - the crew has a choice to make and neither outcome is very attractive - good vs. evil is much less exciting than evil vs. worse evil! It's this complexity that I miss about the series.

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  19. Re:Personal favorite by DevNova · · Score: 2, Funny

    Zoe: "Preacher, don't the Bible have some pretty specific things to say about killing?

    Book: "Quite specific. It is, however, somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps."

  20. Re:wrong name of the movie by temojen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It looks like the same movie, unless you take into consideration factors like characters, plot, setting, actors, set design, art design, wardrobe, etc.

    So yeah, they're both space fantasy, have lighting, and were filmed on photochemical film.

    Yeah, and a conetticut yankee in king arthur's court and gone with the wind are basically the same movie too.

  21. Re:good movie? by jpietrzak · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I suspect you'd need to be more of a "Whedon" cult fan than a Firefly cult fan. Yes, Firefly covers much of the same territory that any normal sci-fi B-films cover, but where most writers focus on the starships & firefights, Whedon puts unbelievable amounts of depth into his characters. I'm a latecomer to the whole "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" thing myself -- although the premise of that series was somewhat ridiculous, the interaction between the characters was wonderful, and drew me in despite the overt plot.

    So, in Firefly, the action sequences are fun, but it's the banter around the dinner table that really sets the show apart. :)

    --John
  22. Re:Am I the only one? by dfn5 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Am I the only one who found Firefly to be dull and boring?
    I reckon you are.

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  23. Re:Am I the only one? by mynameisnotnick · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Shame on Fox for screwing it up like they did, but the premiere left me with no desire to see what the rest of the season was like. I don't think I'd even waste a selection getting it from Netflix at this point.

    But that's just it - you didn't see the "premier", you saw the episode Fox showed first - big difference. It's like starting LotR with the Two Towers and blaming Tolkien because the story doesn't make sense.

    Look at it this way; by watching Firefly (as mentioned above, showing on Sci-Fi (didn't know that, thanks)) what you'll really be doing is thumbing your noses at the marketing idiots at Fox who were sure they knew how best to "position" the show, against the wishes of the creative folks.

    -gary

  24. Re:Am I the only one? by electrichamster · · Score: 2

    The first episode sucks gigantic hairy balls - the rest however, rock.

    My advice to anyone who first watches the DVD's:
    Watch the first three episodes (force yourself if you have to), then make your mind up.

    I've not yet had one person come back to me saying they disliked it after following that advice, but most of them said they hated the first episode.

  25. Re:Am I the only one? by SpryGuy · · Score: 2, Informative

    You do realize that the first episode was actually the SECOND episode, as the two hour preimier was never shown by Fox, and that subsequent episodes were shown out of order as well.

    You might try renting the first DVD from NetFlix and watching the first four shows in order. And the show did get stronger and stronger as each episode progressed. I found the premier shown on Fox to be dull as well, but I kept with it anyway and was rewarded. And when I finally saw the two hour pilot, I was hooked. I own it on DVD now.

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  26. Re:Am I the only one? by SpryGuy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Fox axed the pilot which was INTENDED to be the premier, and instead showed the second episode, which wasn't the premier episode, just the first episode shown.

    Yes, it matters.

    And it's really worth watching in order. Seriously. Sacrifice a Netflix queue slot. Or better yet, just wait until later in August when Sci-Fi will run the entire series IN ORDER, in the run-up to the movie's premier at the end of September.

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  27. IMDb sure has evil administrators by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Funny

    They recommend Star Wars Episode I - The Phantom Menace if you're ending up liking this movie.

    Wow...

    Hmm, I wonder how that algorithm works anyway, if it's automated. :-) ( or maybe the question should be frased -- how the algorithm doesn't work ;-) )

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  28. corrupt .mov file? by jafac · · Score: 3, Informative

    I reproduced this twice -
    WinXP SP2, QT 6.5.2, about 9/10 of the way through the movie, firefox hangs up, and I had to kill it with Task Manager.

    Recommend a separate download, and play outside of the browser.

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  29. Irony by brokeninside · · Score: 5, Insightful
    There is a disconnect between:
    ``Space ships, people shooting guns, "mercs," a hot chick doing kung fu ... this is exactly the kind of crap I expect to see on any given Tuesday on the Sci-Fi Channel.


    and

    I like the new Battlestar Galactica


    The new battlestar Galactica is full of space ships, people shooting guns and hot chicks doing kung-fu. And it's even on the Sci Fi channel.
  30. Re:good movie? by jpietrzak · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you haven't seen it before, you should check out the old BBC sci-fi "Blake's 7" -- now, there was a show full of "bad boys". The concept was that Blake, a freedom fighter up against a corrupt interstellar Federation, gathered together a crew of pirates and thieves to pursue freedom. But the actor playing Blake left the show after the first season; so, one of the thieves took over the ship after that. :)


    Now, that became a show without a truly clear sense of good vs. evil. The main characters occasionally did the "right" thing for the right reasons, often for the wrong reasons, and sometimes didn't accomplish anything good at all! It made things quite interesting...



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  31. Re:Am I the only one? by Fahrenheit+450 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, that all falls square on the shoulders of Fox. You know, those guys who advertised for weeks about a show that included "a girl in a box", and then decided at the last minute to scrap the two hour premiere containing said girl in said box, and made Joss and Tim write a brand premiere over the weekend to be hurried into production. Oh yeah, the new premiere also had to be just an hour long... and with more action, so all of the backstory had to be compressed into quick blunt exposition so we could try to figure out who all these people on this ship were...

    And then they had the whacky idea to jumble all the episodes more or less randomly, cause hey... who doesn't love Keno! And oh yeah... they finally decided to show the real premiere as the last episode of the series. Because that makes perfect sense...

    It's not that the show required too much involvement... it's that Fox got too damned involved with it.

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  32. Re:Personal favorite by dtfarmer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Jayne: Do you know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with until you get who's in charge.

    actually it's even better than that:

    You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til you understand who's in ruttin' command here. ~ Jayne Cobb

    Jayne always had some great lines (actually everyone did)
    another good jayne quote:

    Mal: Can't get paid if you're dead.
    Jayne: Can't get paid if you crawl away like a bitty little bug neither. I got a share of this job. Ten percent of nothin' is, let me do the math here... nothin' into nothin', carry the nothin'...

  33. Gotta pop my cherry sometime! by ChickenBone · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've been lurking on /. for about 5 years now. This is my first post. I had to for this one. I freekin loved this TV show. From day 1. I'm stoked about the movie, (hope they did'nt dumb it down too much) and i'm really hoping it comes back to TV on the sci-fi channel. I'm not a Josh Whedon Fanboy at all. I never watch one episode of Buffy or The other one...(can't think of the name right now), but Firefly I liked alot. Nothing more important else to add....on second thought, maybe I wasted my first post ever? Dammit! CB....

  34. From the Whedon-hater-camp by ChozSun · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I love SciFi. I love comics books. That noted, I hate everything else Whedon has done. His two other shows are spikes through the head at best and his comic writing is meh at best.

    That said, Firefly freakin' rocks. Stop basing opinions off of what you saw on Fox. Fox kept jacking the order of the shows, content of the shows and towards the end, didn't even show it in place of sports. Even if you did see it in the first run, you really didn't see it at all.

    Fox has jacked up other shows in the past, this is true. But either plenty of people have lost their jobs or they learned a stern lesson when they are going to bring back Arrested Development and brought back Family Guy.

    Firefly was one of the balls they dropped. Unfortunately, since they have sold the rights to Universal, they cannot bring back Firefly. Thus, we have Serenity and reruns on SciFi.

    Life is good again.

    Pwned the DVDs. If you still don't believe us, check the reviews. If 1409 reviews with an average of 5/5 stars is still not good enough for you, rent the DVDs.

    I, for one, envy newcomers. They can see "Objects in Space" and think, "oh cool and Serenity will be here soon." Imagine getting the DVDs way back when and no talks of any sort of movie. It was the only time I screamed at my TV.

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  35. Re:will someone please explain this to me by BewireNomali · · Score: 3, Interesting

    September is still a very weak month for moviegoing in general, which is why it tends to be reserved for what are called "soft" movies.

    Perfect example of such a film is "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow" which was released on 9/17. It went on to gross ~$60 million worldwide boxoffice, with a production budget of about 70 million (the budget was actually closer to 100 because of CGI cost overruns).

    It was originally scheduled to be released in the summer, but it would have been crushed. With little competition it was unable to earn back its budget domestically.

    Serenity's production budget is listed at $40 million. This means its marketing budget is somewhere around $20-25 million, probably... Let's assume $65 million as the figure in question.

    The film has to double its budget (assuming equitable split between exhibitor and distributor, which isn't always the case) in box office receipts to ensure zero risk for Universal at stage one of the revenue stream. It has to earn $130 million at the box office in OCTOBER! That's a stretch.

    So what is more likely is that Universal is willing to take a loss on box office, which they are conceding by moving it to September so that they can get all the box office revenue possible (less competition). Geeks are loyal DVD purchasers, so they are banking on DVD sales to not only offset any loss, but for DVD sales themselves to buck the trend of flattening DVD sales as the DVD market matures.

    No one releases a press release stating that they think their movie is going to fail, so refering to one in this instance doesn't amount to much. Also, other films released early summer, with established stars and directors (for example: Kingdom of Heaven with Orlando Bloom and Ridley Scott) failed miserably... with much bigger marketing budgets and the entire summer audience to cater to.

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  36. Drinking the sand. by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because really good SF on film is so bad, we're about ready to drink the sand, so to speak. In a culture that considers "Star Wars" to be science fiction, Firefly is way, way ahead of the rest.

    If we don't encourage them to get it right, how will they ever learn?

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