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Dialup Redeemed: The WiFlyer Modem+Hotspot

Those who've moved to broadband connections and wireless links to each PC on their home or office network are unlikely to look back fondly on the days of 56K (or the not-so-snappy 300 baud of my first modem). Still, even if most Internet users really do have broadband, and (unless you've forsaken a landline telephone completely), dialup is a useful adjunct to even the spiffiest broadband access. And sometimes, it's the only access available. Most city dwellers don't face the distance limits of DSL (or even the geographic limitations of cable service), and cheapskate travelers know that free local calls are more common than hotels with free WiFi. However, wireless access and modems aren't the most common combination (especially when you're talking about laptops with a built-in modem port), and it's not fun being tied to whatever length of phone cord you have to hand. AlwaysOn Wireless's device called the WiFlyer (about $150) combines a wireless access point, a DHCP server, and a modem to make dealing with dialup a bit easier, and tosses in a few other features as well. The WiFlyer is a brilliant device, with some limitations; read on for my review.

Introducing the WiFlyer

There are some other small wireless base stations around, like the Asus WL-530g and the Apple Airport Express, both of which do a good job of turning an available broadband connection wireless, but to my knowledge no others which pack a modem into such a small base station. (The larger Apple Airports do have a modem, as have some devices from Lucent and others, but they're much bulkier.) Each of these tiny base station has its pros and cons -- the Airport Express adds in audio transport, for instance, and like the WL-530g it's a full-fledged 802.11g device -- so your use will determine which makes the most sense. For me, though, the WiFlyer basically hits the sweet spot: it's light, extensible, works as advertised (with one exception, below), and let me connect both my laptops via friends' DSL and cable modems, and over Plain Old Telephone Service.

Physically, the WiFlyer is a slightly rounded grey box that looks it should double as a radar detector. The case is small -- at roughly 1x3x5", about the size of my (old) Handspring Visor, and only 6.5 ounces including the AC power supply. That makes it a good candidate for tossing in a laptop case; at that weight, it's not exactly hefty, but seems solid enough to take travel without complaint. Helpfully, it comes with a wall-wart that's forgivable for not being a line-lump, because the transformer end is small enough -- tiny! -- to stick in one AC socket without obstructing the outlet's other plug. The rear of the device holds the various ins and outs: two ethernet ports (one in from a broadband connection, one out to a local machine), an RJ-11 jack for a telephone line, and the DC power jack.

My only complaint about the WiFlyer's physical design is that it lacks a built-in means (perhaps in the form of a plastic case like the expansion sleeve of the Compaq iPaq) for mounting it under or next to a desk, or high on a cubicle wall to provide better reception.

I recently used the device at several stops along an (ongoing) 6,000-plus mile road trip around the U.S., and found it an indispensable jack of all (networking) trades, with only a touch of "master of none." It neatly replaces everything in the Frankenmodem I assembled a few years ago and have relied on for temporary wireless-by-modem since. It just took a few more years for such a device to appear than I expected it to.

My testbed laptops: a Toshiba Satellite with a 1GHz Celeron chip (saddled with Windows XP), and a 500MHz iBook running Ubuntu Linux 5.0.4.The iBook wireless connection is an internal Airport card (Ubuntu supports the original Airport, though not yet the Airport Extreme), and the Toshiba is getting its wireless access from a USB dongle, a Netgear MA111. (And though the nature of the device means it shouldn't much matter, it's nice to see that Linux support is mentioned explicitly on the package.) In both cases, I used a recent build of Firefox to reach the device's admin page, and (except for better reception in the iBook) there is no difference in behavior, since the WiFlyer requires no client-side software.

Set-up is simple: plug the device in (there's no power switch) and connect it to either an active phone line or an ethernet cable leading to active Internet service. Upon starting a browser and entering the WiFlyer's default IP address (192.168.7.77), the user finds a configuration screen. By default, the WiFlyer is set up for dialup use, and here's one of the best features: stored in memory, the box has local access numbers for "most" major ISPs; a partial list includes Earthlink (the one I use), SBC/Yahoo, MSN, ATT Worldnet and NetZero. The handy thing about ISPs sharing modem pools is that chances are good any ISP with a national presence is reachable through the WiFlyer's list. Just select your location and ISP, supply your username and password, and the WiFlyer dials out. (A small dial on the side controls the modem's volume; it's reassuring to hear those banshees wail sometimes.) This feature worked flawlessly for me from several places around the country; I chose Earthlink's numbers from various locations, and got through without incident. Since Ubuntu Linux can't yet control the modem in my iBook, it's nice to have an external modem like this.

If you can scrounge an ethernet cable with active service upstream to the Internet, though, things are even easier (at least if you are happy with DHCP -- otherwise you'll have to punch in the right numbers in the configuration page). After clicking a button on the config page to switch to broadband, a firmware swap takes place (it requires around a minute; Always On says this was a necessary compromise in the cost of the device), and Shazam! -- miniature broadband wireless router. It seems to take the WiFlyer 60-90 seconds to establish the connection, though; this takes more patience than do my other wireless routers. If you're borrowing a friend's cable-modem line between the cable modem and his PC, connect the other ethernet port to the computer, so everyone's happy.

I didn't use the built-in security features (too far from interested eavesdroppers), but the WiFlyer includes the usual semi-secure means of securing a wireless network from the base-station end; 40/64 bit and 128-bit WEP and MAC address authentication.

Limitations

The WiFlyer isn't perfect; it has a few drawbacks to take note of, and they could be deal-killers if you need what it doesn't offer.

Most importantly, the range of the WiFlyer is limited; that's what I expected, since it has no external antenna, but the working range is even shorter than I anticipated, and my reception was spotty outside anything more than 20 feet from the box, even with a perfect line of sight. (This is partly to blame on my wireless dongle, but not entirely -- with both the WiFlyer and a common Netgear 802.11b base station active in the same house, I received a much stronger signal from the Netgear even with the WiFlyer within three feet of my 802.11 USB key, while the Netgear was more than 30 feet away and blocked by two thick plaster walls.) That means that an out-of-the-box WiFlyer won't let me browse the web over waffles across the street from a motel. The only way I could get a connection which my Toshiba would call "excellent" was to lay the USB wireless dongle within a foot or two of the WiFlyer. Within a hotel room or small office, the reception is perfectly adequate, though, and if you choose to view the glass as half-full, no wireless moocher is likely to download naughty pictures (or upload naughty email) over your connection.

However, the designers have at least deflected my low opinion of the built-in antenna by including a jack for an MCX antenna, which -- thanks to the proliferation of wireless generally -- are widely available and cheap. The local computer superstore in El Paso (my location at the moment) has a vide variety of these available, starting around $40. So for a permanent installation, the range ought not be a huge concern, but don't expect to cover the footprint of a music festival or even much of a multi-room office without an antenna.

Another limitation is that the DHCP server supports only 5 users at a time. For situations where the WiFlyer is likely to be used, it doesn't seem worth carping too much about this low number -- sharing dialup with more than 5 users seems like a stretch anyhow. But as an emergency backup DHCP server (something it seems perfect for, though clearly not the intended application), this limits its utility. It can't take too much more expensive a chip to bump that number a bit higher. As a wireless Swiss Army Knife, it would also be handy if the WiFlyer featured a bridging mode, so it could be used to extend service from the edge of an existing hotspot. Since it's roughly the size of some USB wireless devices anyhow, this would make it a useful tool to receive as well as provide wireless access.

If you're used to 802.11g, another disappointment: the WiFlyer is 802.11b only. Since even 802.11b vastly outstrips the carrying capacity of American broadband connections generally, the distinction is probably less important than the makers of 802.11g equipment would have you believe; but be warned, the WiFlyer isn't built to facilitate ultra-high-speed intranetwork data transfers.

The Upshot

The only major disappointment I had with the WiFlyer is the short range; that factor aside, it's been a lifesaver. Now if the makers designed in a duck antenna for greater range, added a bridging mode, and removed the slight hassle of a firmware swap to move between broadband and dialup, it would be even snazzier. Hopefully the next generation WiFlyer will add some of those things, but don't get me wrong: if you travel where modem access is your link to the Internet, or you ever need to share a broadband connection temporarily, the WiFlyer is well worth buying and keeping in your hit-the-road bag.

170 comments

  1. Back to the Future? by bigwavejas · · Score: 3, Informative
    I can't help but feel this isn't the solution people need. Rather, more cities should take the stand Philadelphia has by attempting to provide WiFi for the entire city http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20040901-4149 .html

    Unfortunately, in lieu of Florida recently prosecuting a man for unauthorized WiFi access http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/07/wi.fi.theft.ap/ until we find an alternative - this product is necessary.

    sorry bout the subject, had to jump at the opportunity to tag one of my fav movies :)

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    1. Re:Back to the Future? by slaker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I disagree. I still get paid from time to time to set up connection sharing for a dialup connection.
      Broadband is not everywhere.

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    2. Re:Back to the Future? by dfn5 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Unfortunately, in lieu of Florida recently prosecuting a man for unauthorized WiFi access
      That's why I'm glad I live in the Live Free or Die state where failure to secure one's access point is an affirmative defense for the would-be trespasser.

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    3. Re:Back to the Future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you lived in the Lone Star state there would be no need to share...

    4. Re:Back to the Future? by se7en11 · · Score: 1

      "Great Scott!" Speaking of Back to the Future, did you happen to see Michael J Fox deliver an Amazon.com order personally. Delivered a copy of his autobiography, Lucky Man, to a family on Martha's Vineyard. Video Link

    5. Re:Back to the Future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh how you love to spend other peoples money!

    6. Re:Back to the Future? by jonadab · · Score: 1

      > Rather, more cities should take the stand Philadelphia

      And what happens when you're not in one of those cities? I'd be happy if my city just got DSL available, or phone service from anyone besides Verizon.

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    7. Re:Back to the Future? by grozzie2 · · Score: 1

      Interesting place. I suppose this extends, ie failure to wear bullet proof clothing would be an affirmative defence for somebody that shot you? Stands to reason, if you dont put on a bullet proof vest, you dont care if somebody shoots you. It's about as obvious as 'failure to secure an access point', and falls in the same line of reason.

    8. Re:Back to the Future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, here's the difference....it's very unusual for people to offer themselves as targets to be shot. But people frequently open their wireless for use by the general public, on purpose. If I shoot you, it's pretty certain that you didn't want me to. But how am I supposed to know whether you're offering your public wireless on purpose or by accident?

    9. Re:Back to the Future? by Ruarris · · Score: 1

      That's why I'm glad I live in the Live Free or Die state

      Amen

    10. Re:Back to the Future? by storm916 · · Score: 0

      This might be a bit off topic, but I will not purchase anything over a DSL link. Period. Instead, I use dialup for that.

    11. Re:Back to the Future? by fbjon · · Score: 1

      Which is New Hampshire for non-americans. Also, isn't there a risk of that becoming "Live free and die"?

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  2. How much for a slashvertisment? by riffzifnab · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    So how much did they pay you for your "review"?

    1. Re:How much for a slashvertisment? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very obvious. And isn't it always Timmy? His cock-sucker / ass-licker buddy Roland, and all... So funny that these "editors" can't write a "review" that isn't obvious as an advert, like any high school student could... And don't point out the adverts, you'll get modded "flamebait" or "troll"...

  3. Irrelevant! by dextroz · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    That's like taking a phone with built-in morse-code capabilities... asinine, irrlevant post - ps how much were you paid to advert that crap up?

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  4. WOW, not like this hasnt been out for.... 6 years? by gknac · · Score: 5, Informative

    The AirPort has done this for years, share the dialup over wireless. WOW huge revolution here. There were probably even products before AirPort. Delete this article, its all been done before, and at a lower price with more features/function.

  5. netgear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i think netgear has a wireless router available with a serial port on the back that you can connect an external modem to.
    This may be a bit too much to carry, but it may help fix what disappointed you about the wiflyer.

    1. Re:netgear by JawzX · · Score: 1

      The FWG-114P is a killer unit. The price looks high at first, but it contains the following:

      802.11b/g with a high-gain antenna (VERY good range)
      USB print server
      Serial port (ISDN modems supported)
      VPN support
      PPP Dial-in for your network when the wan port is active as the main internet connection instead of the serial port.

      The version 1.x firmwares were utter crap (so bad in-fact that many v 1.x units were returned as "defective"), but they fixed it nicely in version 2.x. It packs an ass-load of functionality into a box only slightly bigger than a standard wireless router. I have used several in restaraunts with a modem configured for automatic fall-back so credit -card processing never gets interupted.

      No, it's not as compact a the "WiFlyer", and it doesn't support data compression over modem, but it does a hell of a lot more for about the same money.

  6. Apple Airport by Gotung · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Apple's Airport has had this functionality for a looooong time. I actually used it a couple years ago while on vacation.

    1. Re:Apple Airport by repetty · · Score: 0

      Yes, yes, yes. Mod Gotung up 'cause he's absolutely right.

      Apple's cross-platform compatible AirPort base station has been doing this since it's first version, quite a few years ago, I believe.

      This new device is a lot cheaper, though. Apple's support's AOL... does this one?

      --Richard

    2. Re:Apple Airport by R.Mo_Robert · · Score: 1

      "Apple's cross-platform compatible AirPort base station..."

      Last time I checked, AirPort Extreme base stations required OS X to adminster--however, until you posted this and I checked Apple's site again--it doesn't seem to say that anymore. (It does say that WPA requires Panther or later ... but I don't know if that assumes Windows--oh, and, are they just ignoring Linux? I'm sure it works with it--is OK no matter what.)

      Since I accidentally blew up* my last wireless router (a DI-524 from D-Link), the AirPort Extreme looks like it might be a good option, especially since I just bought an iMac. :-) Let me get this straight, though: with the built-in modem, I can easily share a dial-up connection among my computers? Or dial-in from outside if I need access to my network at home from somewhere else? Neat-o. Especially if it doesn't require OS X to administer--not that I don't now have it, but just that Windows boxen are a lot easier to find. :)

      *Yeah, you're probably wondering what that is about. I accidentally plugged in the adapter for my HP laptop into the router instead of my computer in a giant mix-up ... and the router made some popping noises and funny melting-plastic smells. (A capacitor exploded inside from what I saw.) Oops. At least I didn't plug the router's power adapter into my computer, which is significantly more expensive ... though I'm sure that wouldn't have done much, if any, damage.

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  7. better choice: by captnswing · · Score: 1

    why not go for http://www.junxionbox.com/ directly?

    1. Re:better choice: by iamdrscience · · Score: 2, Informative

      Because it costs $700 plus like $80/month for the cell service.

    2. Re:better choice: by computechnica · · Score: 3, Informative

      Another choice that is more modular is using a US robotics Broadband Router with Serial port that can access a USR serial v90 modem or ISDN modem. I also hooked a WI-Fi Bridge to it. Its good to be modular, when the modem gets toasted due to lighting strikes, and yes I use a surge protector but some spikes get through anyway.

    3. Re:better choice: by timothy · · Score: 1

      Yes, that's about what I did with the "frankenmodem" linked from the article (using an SMC router+base station rather than US Robotics), and I agree that it's better for being modular. But the price in ounces and cable tangle is much higher :) Luckily, that doesn't always matter, but when it does, I'm happy that the WiFlyer is so much smaller.

      Cheers,

      Tim

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  8. okay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    yeah I have a wireless access point that converts into smoke signals

    wtf. really.

    1. Re:okay by SilentSheep · · Score: 1

      If i run enough p2p simultaneously i'm sure i could get my WAP to do that!

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    2. Re:Okay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      but where is my 802.11b convertor for Carrier Pigeon IP? I'm tired of having to sit next to the window for these birds, I want to sit on the other side of the room!

      I'm connected to a carrier pigeon exchange; a team of chimps covers the last mile. You could probably adopt this for home use. If it works, post the hack as a Slashdot article.

  9. Aside from the form factor... by n6mod · · Score: 0

    ...it's functionally identical to the first 802.11b access point most of us ever saw: The original Apple Airport.

    Nothing for you to see here.

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  10. Airport? by apnar · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Doesn't Apple's AriPort already do this stuff?

  11. Re:WOW, not like this hasnt been out for.... 6 yea by cyberworm · · Score: 1

    I was about to say the same thing. Maybe it's Apple's fault for not making it clearer that their products will work with pc's too. Oh well, fewer idiots on our platform. ;)

  12. Backup connection? Maybe GPRS? by SharpFang · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm on a reasonable quality ISP landlines lots of ethernet connecting whole neighborhood, a hub or switch every 2-3 houses apart, plus a gateway on some kind of big pipe. There's one serious problem with this approach though - better buy network cards in bulk, after each major storm most of network infrastructure that was plugged in needs to be replaced. Now what before the ISP brings in replacement hubs and switches? Recently I found myself in this situation, needing access really urgently. So I just whipped out my cell phone, the data cable (self-made), a bit of configuring and I'm online in no time. Of course downloading movies or surfing graphically heavy pages is out of question with /byte payment, but it's perfectly enough for IM, email, IRC and some lightweight webbrowsing.

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    1. Re:Backup connection? Maybe GPRS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm on a reasonable quality ISP landlines lots of ethernet connecting whole neighborhood, a hub or switch every 2-3 houses apart, plus a gateway on some kind of big pipe.
      after each major storm most of network infrastructure that was plugged in needs to be replaced.
      What? this makes little sense. When tech guys say 'big pipe' they aren't actually talking about a pipe which water runs through. Why would the network equipment in you area stop working after a storm. And if it does (which 99% of the ISP's in the world don't have trouble with) why would you even hint that this an ISP of any quality. I'm sorry but that's just stupid, move, get a new ISP, dood you don't have to put up with crap service that sounds like it was configured by the 13 year old down the street. A bunch of Ethernet, hubs and switches every few houses, jesus, what joke.

    2. Re:Backup connection? Maybe GPRS? by (startx) · · Score: 1

      It's even better when you've got Bluetooth, because there no need for the self-made data cable. Powerbook + Sony/Erricson T637 + GPRS = wireless backup internet connection!

    3. Re:Backup connection? Maybe GPRS? by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      Why would the network equipment in you area stop working after a storm.
      Because that are ETHERNET (Twisted Pair wire, RJ45 plug, 100baseT) lines designed to work indoors and never meant to be drawn between buildings.
      why would you even hint that this an ISP of any quality.
      Because it provides you with speed several times higher than highest broadband option in major ISPs (10-100mbit inside the ISP network (including from www proxy) and several neighbor ISP networks, and several good lines to the outside world) for price being 50% the price of the cheapest "narrow band" of these major ISPs.

      $15/month for unlimited bandwidth + permanent routable IP + choosen DNS entry + webhosting (30M diskspace, unlimited bandwidth usage) + 3 email addresses (POP/webmail, some 100M space each) and some more goodies. Freedom to host any servers you desire and use as much bandwidth as you can get.
      Some downtimes and $5 network card once-twice a year is not that high a price. Find me a reasonable competition.

      Think of it like kind of overclocker's ISP. You get totally awesome performance, but stability drops and it's definitely unreliable.

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    4. Re:Backup connection? Maybe GPRS? by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

      The following ARE available:
      - Ethernet cabling (Cat 5 or better) intended to survive an outdoor environment.
      - Lightning/surge arresters for where it transitions between indoor and outdoor.

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    5. Re:Backup connection? Maybe GPRS? by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      Cabling is the stuff that remains and survives. It's the active devices that get fried. And of course there are these atesters. Three little problems about them. 1) They cost more than devices they protect (and their protection is that they get fried instead of the protected devices - single-use.)
      2) They won't protect against a really strong lightning.
      3) They reduce connection quality to level where you're happy with 100Kbit throughput, and can forget 100Mbit.

      (oh irony, typing this from GPRS connection, the gateway is down again :)

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    6. Re:Backup connection? Maybe GPRS? by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

      Three little problems about them. 1) They cost more than devices they protect (and their protection is that they get fried instead of the protected devices - single-use.)
      2) They won't protect against a really strong lightning.
      3) They reduce connection quality to level where you're happy with 100Kbit throughput, and can forget 100Mbit.


      I think you have these confused with something else. I'm not talking some plug-in telephone/power strip appliance from Fry's or Circuit City.

      The ones I'm talking about are intended for use with commercial roof-tower mounted 802.11g antennas with electronics at the antenna fed by ethernet, and by non-802.11 radio links of similar electronics-up-pole configurations. They have to handle repeated surges and (in the 802.11g case) feed a 56 Mbps device that is expecting reliable 100 Mbps Ethernet. (If I understand it correctly, BASE-T Ethernet doesn't degrade baud rates gracefully. If a particular bit pattern fails it will keep failing, and packets will keep dropping. Screw up the cabling's transmission properties too much and it just dies.)

      I haven't investigated the price - but would expect that these protectors must also be cheap enough, at least in quantity OEM sales, to be usable on subscriber devices without resulting in a major boost in price over an unprotected device.)

      I wouldn't expect a cat-5 running between houses in a suburb to experience surges much more extensive than one running up a tower on top of a skyscraper in the middle of a city.

      Unless, of course, your susurb happens to be hobby farms with houses separated by appreciable fractions of a mile, or located on the side of a mountain, in northern New Mexico, or otherwise in an excessively electrically-active area.

      Of course NOTHING will survive a direct hit on the wiring. B-)

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    7. Re:Backup connection? Maybe GPRS? by ny_p · · Score: 1

      I have seen this setup when i was in India. The same problem as Fang posted existed, lightning does not have to hit the wire, it just has to hit close enough to induce a charge in the cable, which then fries anything connected.

      The cheapest solution i found was this ..heh

      By counting the seconds between the flash and the thunder and dividing by 5, an estimate of the distance to the strike (in miles) can be made.

      (Source http://thunder.msfc.nasa.gov/primer/index.html)

      SO if lightining is imminent yank out the cables and then plug back in when its crossed over. Not an automatic solution mind you but i did say cheapest ;)

    8. Re:Backup connection? Maybe GPRS? by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      Well, I haven't investigated -these- either. The problem is in your case you install ONE on the wire going to the antenna. In our case, 4 connections between houses = 8 such devices (one at each cable end). And I bet they would be in -very- common use if the price was lower than, say, 5-6x price of a switch. The device I talked about is called "protect-net", horrible quality (plus requires GOOD grounding to fulfill its role. Not the kind you find in houses) and costs about the same as a switch... Somehow I doubt that one would be much cheaper...

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  13. Brilliant! by CynicalGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    The WiFlyer is a brilliant device,

    No, Guiness in a bottle is a brilliant device. This thing is just a wifi access point and a modem.

    1. Re:Brilliant! by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      No, the brilliant part was the little widget thingie that makes it like a *real* Guinness... They've had stout in bottles for years.

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    2. Re:Brilliant! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm getting visions of a hilariously incompetent 13-year old geek with questionable personal hygiene posting his unfunny 'dis' to Slashdot.

      You forgot the bit about threatening to "pop a cap in his ass".

      Doubly ironic that you were having a go at the guy for being unfunny.... this is so bad it's almost cute. One day you will look back on this and cringe :-P

  14. great addition to current equipment by ecklesweb · · Score: 1

    I think this is a great addition to the current lineup of equipment out there. I don't know if you've ever tried to put together a wireless LAN with a desktop computer that's connected to the internet via dialup instead of broadband, but it's a PITA. As far as Linksys is concerned, it CANNOT be done. I did every trick I could think, flipped every configuration flag I could find, tried to fool the thing into thinking there was a broadband connection.

    As far as I can tell, before this, there is no way to share a dialup connection over a wireless LAN. I know what Dad's getting for Christmas...

    1. Re:great addition to current equipment by planarian · · Score: 0

      I've been using an orinoco wireless router (the rg-1000) for about four years now that has a built-in modem to share a dial-up connection and an ethernet jack for broadband. It works with both windows and linux--I've used it to network two debian laptops at home.

    2. Re:great addition to current equipment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A Freesco box with a D-Link AP does it for me. :)

    3. Re:great addition to current equipment by paul248 · · Score: 1

      Can't you just turn off DHCP, and share the connection from a PC? You might have to change the router's IP address also, if the PC demands to have 192.168.0.1.

    4. Re:great addition to current equipment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No way except the apple Airport base station, as dozens of posters have pointed out, which has been able to do this for several years. it can bridge a wired and wireless network to a dialup modem, provides DHCP and dial on demand, and is totally trivial to configure (yes even from linux).

    5. Re:great addition to current equipment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually if you plug a powerbook into a phone line
      and make a connection you can share that connection with other users. This works for ethernet as well...Built in
      wireless broadcasting from a powerbook ain't the best or great
      but in a pinch (with a roomful of folks and 1 phone line or
      ethernet connection) it does work.
      I'm hoping apple adds a modem to the Airport express,
      since that wouldbe a nice travel product.
      THe only thing that bugs me about the Flyer is range,
      which should be much better. Folks secure your
      travel routers with MAC addresses if you don't want snoopers.
      nuff said
      (off site responder)

    6. Re:great addition to current equipment by ecklesweb · · Score: 1

      As far as I could tell, with the model we were dealing with there was no way to turn off DHCP or the routing features and make it just a hub. The laptop with a wireless card could ping the router but not the desktop, and the desktop with an ethernet connection to the hub could ping the router but not the laptop. The routing was all hosed up, and no apparent way to fix it. I did change the router's IP address.

    7. Re:great addition to current equipment by tricorn · · Score: 1

      Can't you just share your dialup connection to the Ethernet port, and plug the wireless router's WAN port into the Ethernet port? You might need a crossover cable if it isn't a Mac. If you turn off DHCP in the router, you should also just be able to connect the ethernet port to one of the LAN ports on the router (leaving the WAN port disconnected) - then something connecting wirelessly will use DHCP from the computer, not the router. Either should work, although the second is much better if you want to connect between the two computers locally in both directions (file sharing, printer sharing, etc). Just ignore the WAN port and it is a simple access point.

      You could even do it with DHCP in the router turned on and don't use "connection sharing", just connect the computer to one of the LAN ports and use normal DHCP - but I don't know how Windows decides which is your primary (default) Internet connection if you have both an ethernet connection and a dialup connection established. On a Mac or Linux machine, you could use route commands to force it if the default is wrong. Worse case you could enable RIP, but again I don't know if you can use that on Windows (and it still might not enable the PPP connection as the default gateway).

    8. Re:great addition to current equipment by mspohr · · Score: 1

      I was doing this five years ago with an ancient SMC wireless access point and a dialup modem. I can't believe this is "news" for any nerd.

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  15. Hello advertisement by elrous0 · · Score: 1, Insightful
    WTF is this obvious advertisement doing on the front page?

    -Eric

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    1. Re:Hello advertisement by HMC+CS+Major · · Score: 1

      They're bleeding money, you have to expect the ads to get more and more blatant. Right?

    2. Re:Hello advertisement by MicroPat · · Score: 1

      My thought exactly. What a pathetic thing to do. Thanks for wasting my time, timothy. Even though I already knew about the Wiflyer like most others Slashdotters, I continued to read the article in disbelief that this was actually on the front page of Slashdot. Is this going to become a common practice -- blatant advertsement on the front page? Aside from this annoying psuedo-article, I would've bought the WiFlyer a while back if it were 802.11g-compliant so it could better double as a faster broadband router.

  16. Comcast by Dadoo · · Score: 1

    dialup is a useful adjunct to even the spiffiest broadband access. And sometimes, it's the only access available.

    I know this is a little off-topic, but I just had to respond to this statement.

    It's nice to see I'm not the only one who believes this. I wish Comcast did. They don't provide dial-up backup so, when I'm out of town, I have to find a hotel that provides their own access. It's the only thing I don't like about my cable modem.

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    1. Re:Comcast by Mr2001 · · Score: 2, Informative

      When my Comcast connection is unavailable, I just use my cell phone. A $10 data cable lets me get online at 60-100 kbps, which is better than dialup, and it just uses regular minutes on my Verizon plan (so it's free after 9 PM or on weekends).

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  17. Inexpensive Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For ~$150/each your IT department can buy these Just think - for ~$150/each your IT department can buy these critters for your road-warrior types. They get a slick new toy that makes their life a little easier and gives them some bragging rights while at the next conference - while they share a single 56k dialup line with 50 other people....

  18. Ihat an article??? by Holi · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It reads like a damn press release. How low is /. going to stoop. I mean if this were a newspaper the top of the page would say ADVERTISEMENT.

    And as others have probably said the Apple Airport has had this functionality since it's inception ( I can't make any claims about the later versions as all I have is my silver UFO) and I have used it many times in the past. So while yes this can be a useful function, it is not something new.

    Way to go Timothy, I hope they paid you well.

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    1. Re:Ihat an article??? by Cylix · · Score: 1

      Given I can see no reader submission... the size of the article... yep... nail, hammer, head.

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    2. Re:Ihat an article??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WAHHH WAHHH WAHHH. I'm so sick of people complaining about product reviews being advertisements. So fucking what if it is? The point is that perhaps some people reading slashdot might be looking for a solution just like this. Nobody is forcing you to go and buy one of these things.

      So what if the Apple Airport has had this functionality since the dawn of time. The Apple Airport isn't the only such product. Here's an alternative. It's an interesting product review. In fact, maybe this review will convince me to buy the Apple Airport instead.

      Quit trying so hard to be one of the slashdot sheep who incessantly regurgitate the same comments and complaints. Any time a product is reviewed on /. there is a race to see who can post the first "WAHHH it's an advertisement" comment. Well, congratulations, Corky, you win this time. Go fuck yourself.

  19. Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a dessert topping and a floor wax!

  20. Okay by iamdrscience · · Score: 2, Funny

    but where is my 802.11b convertor for Carrier Pigeon IP? I'm tired of having to sit next to the window for these birds, I want to sit on the other side of the room!

  21. Wow... by ChrisF79 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Using this device is like putting 18" chrome rims on a 1988 Ford Escort.

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    1. Re:Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's your point? My 88 Ford Escort wasn't complete til I got those 18" wheels...

    2. Re:Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But damn those rims look good! You almost don't even notice the Escort.

      The "Slow Down Cowboy!" thing is really annoying...I had to wait 12 minutes! WTF?!?

    3. Re:Wow... by muellerr1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I took that as a challenge.

  22. Price Comparison by iamdrscience · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wiflyer: $150
    20ft phone cord: $5

    Yeah, I think I can do without spending 30 times as much.

    1. Re:Price Comparison by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wiflyer: $150
      20ft phone cord: $5


      Hospital bill after you trip on the phone cord and knock yourself unconscious on the bed post: priceless.

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    2. Re:Price Comparison by slapout · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but you can't walk around your house when you're teathered to a 20ft cord.

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    3. Re:Price Comparison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously, you've never lived in an apartment in Hell's Kitchen.

    4. Re:Price Comparison by twosmokes · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but with dialup I can click the link, watch some tv, grab a snack, wash my car and maybe when I come back it'll be done loading.

      No need to make the thing portable really.

    5. Re:Price Comparison by eoyount · · Score: 1

      He could only get a 20ft range out of the wiflyer, so you can't really walk around the house and remain connected to it, either.

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  23. Waiting for a router with telegraph sharing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm waiting for a router that will allow me to share a telegraph. Talk about untapped markets. Some company is going to make a killing if they just wake up.

  24. As opposed to a cord? by Princeofcups · · Score: 1


    Why is this necessary, when a $2 20 foot cord does the exact same thing? If you need to share Wifi, the modemed Mac/PC can act as a basestation.

    jfs

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    1. Re:As opposed to a cord? by NoTitleLater · · Score: 0

      Cause your company will pay for it. =)

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    2. Re:As opposed to a cord? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of us don't have modems in our laptops. My tiny little sony doesn't have one, for example. This would be great on the road, when I needed a modem.

    3. Re:As opposed to a cord? by Arctic+Fox · · Score: 1

      I think you missed the point.

      He's running Ubuntu on his iBook, which does not support the internal modem.

      Why he's running Ubuntu instead of the perfectly functioning MacOSX, is perhaps the subject of another article.

    4. Re:As opposed to a cord? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Possibly because his other machine (mentioned in TFA) cannot possibly run Mac software, and he wants to cut administration hassles by using the same software on all of his machines?

      I guess the bigger question is: why WOULDN'T he delete OSX from his shiny new Mac? I certainly know that's the first thing I did.

      The advantage of a working modem is hardly worth the disadvantage of running OSX and maintaining multiple different software sets.

  25. Curious. by Blindman · · Score: 1

    If I understand this correctly, then this targets those that want to share dial-up access, but are unwilling or unable to get broadband. Afterall, a wireless router can be obtained for roughly $60.

    I guess I don't understand the target market here. It is just people that don't have a modem, but would rather buy an access point, then a modem?

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  26. wtf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    how is this even close to new, for a hell of alot less money you can A: get an older air port or B: get an even older broadband router eg old greybox di 704 with a serial port strap a modem to it, and something like a 900ap this is NOT a new concept not even close

  27. I was excited at first.... by Omega1045 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I thought this would be a great solution for a friend with dial-up that wants to use his laptop all over the house the way I do with my wireless. However, with 20' line of site connectivity, this will not do.

    As far as a business traveller, I can tell you that I packed a 50' chunk of cat5 RJ45 and a 100' chunk of cat 3 (phone cable is cat 3, right?) RJ11 for some time in my computer pack. Neither took up a lot of room. Neither was very expensive, and both work great to this day.

    This thing is going to have to do a hellavalot better than 20' to be of any value to me, and I imagine, a lot of other travelling (or stationary) geeks.

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    1. Re:I was excited at first.... by CynicalGuy · · Score: 1

      As far as a business traveller, I can tell you that I packed a 50' chunk of cat5 RJ45 and a 100' chunk of cat 3

      what are you, a cable salesman?

    2. Re:I was excited at first.... by Bodero · · Score: 1

      As far as a business traveller, I can tell you that I packed a 50' chunk of cat5 RJ45 and a 100' chunk of cat 3 (phone cable is cat 3, right?) RJ11 for some time in my computer pack.

      I'm a business traveller as well. I have cat5 cable with me at all times. One thing though - couldn't you just get a couple of plug converters for each end of the cat5 cable, so you don't have to carry both types of cables with you?

    3. Re:I was excited at first.... by timothy · · Score: 1

      "I'm a business traveller as well. I have cat5 cable with me at all times. One thing though - couldn't you just get a couple of plug converters for each end of the cat5 cable, so you don't have to carry both types of cables with you?"

      I picked up a couple such plug-end convertors recently (for $10 at Big Lots, of all places. And if you're familiar with that store, it really is "of all places" ;)), and like that idea of saving space, *but* ... the flat variety of phone cord is very cheap, and it's inexpensive redundancy to have a small bundle of it along; a 50-foot length takes up less room than even a 6-foot length of standard ethernet cable.

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  28. in other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot was purchased by AlwaysOn Internet

  29. Serial? by joeybagadonuts · · Score: 1


    The WiFlyer is a brilliant device,

    Unless it has an RS-232 port, then I am not impressed.


    Well, actually, I'm not. I just don't trust devices without RS-232 ports...

    1. Re:Serial? by dsouth · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure if you're being serious, but the older B-series SMC routers (7004AWBR and similar) had RS-232 ports. During a cable-modem outage I just plugged in an external modem, made a couple setup changes, and had my whole house "sucking Internet through a straw" while the cable company was sorting things out.

      As others have indicated, I'm not sure why the WiFlyer is regarded as a big deal. The SMC hub + an external modem could do the same thing, plus had a built-in 4 port hub, lpd print server, and much much better wireless range.

    2. Re:Serial? by nsayer · · Score: 1

      My parents own one of those same SMCs. I was trying to transition them away from dialup by hooking the modem up to the serial port so that they'd at least no longer have to manually dial up anymore (plus there's the shared printer port).

      Alas, I tried a bunch of different modems and never got one to actually dial with the thing. It just never worked. In the end I finally just convinced them to try a cable modem for a few months and they were instantly sold on the speed with which they could fetch their mail (!!) compared to the dialup links.

    3. Re:Serial? by tricorn · · Score: 1

      How much does a (new) router that can connect using a modem cost? Price of router + modem + access point is probably going to be more than this device (though with a real access point, you'd get much better wireless performance than the WiFlyer). It also won't be very portable, and you'll need three wall warts to support it!

  30. what?? by Danzigism · · Score: 0

    this IS just a router right??? why is this being made out to be some huge deal??? i was thinking that it like gave you dialup internet access from anywhere in the country or something.. it really doesn't solve any of my problems of not having broadband here in bumfuck...

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  31. GPRS? by peipas · · Score: 1

    Why not just pair your cell phone with your laptop over bluetooth and use GPRS if you're satisfied with dialup speeds? It might even be faster.

    1. Re:GPRS? by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

      Why not just pair your cell phone with your laptop over bluetooth and use GPRS if you're satisfied with dialup speeds?

      Because GPRS is not available in many areas where I want internet access - including my vacation/retirement house, which is what I bought the darned cellphone and service FOR in the first place.

      (Heck: The network is trying to push everybody to switch from TDMA to GSM yet they STILL won't convert the only cell covering that site - and I can't switch carrieres because I'd just end up roaming on the same cell. I'm surprised I don't have to fall back to AMPS - which I'd gladly do if my phone was capable of it, since that WILL carry modem signals.)

      IMHO GPRS won't be rolled out generally until somebody does a modem that makes a decent connection over GSM, TDMA, and CDMA CODECs and people start using their flat-rate voice connections for internet access.

      Until then (and maybe even after), any cellphone-based internet service will be viewed as a "value-added service" (i.e. a revenue enhancer with another big pricetag attached) that it's only cost-effective to roll out in dense urban areas.

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  32. A Good Product For American Market.... by mpapet · · Score: 2, Informative

    And here's why:

    42.1 percent of American households now own a computer. See www.natat.org/ncsc/Pubs/Getting%20Online/Chapter_1 .htm

    In 2003 about 13 percent of American households are actually using broadband. See www.pcworld.com/howto/article/0,aid,107834,00.asp The stats are two years old, but broadband adoption isn't happening that quickly. Even if you double broadband to 26%, you have 74% still using dial-up.

    The dial-up users may want to go wireless at some point and this is the American way to do it. Plug it into the wall, personalize it and leave it alone.

    If I'm working for the company marketing this thing, I'd be on the phone with every dial-up ISP in the world. It's a no-brainer for the dial-up ISP.

    Like it or not, dial-up (in the U.S. anyway) is like the dot-matrix printer and more recently the floppy disk. It's going to hang around for a long time. Not sexy, but useful and cheap.

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    1. Re:A Good Product For American Market.... by ShyGuy91284 · · Score: 1

      Good point with the statistics, but do you have any clue how many old Apple IIx and other old non-connected computers there are out there? If they are counted, that could cause a pretty big difference between the number of people with computers, and the number of people with internet access.

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    2. Re:A Good Product For American Market.... by Colombian85 · · Score: 1

      Your math is fuzzy... Assuming we agree that 26% of american households are using broadband, that doesn't mean the remaining 74% have dial-up. After all, only 42.1% have a computer in the first place. Subtract that from the 74% and you end up with closer to 32%. Even that number is likely high, since not everyone who owns a computer has an internet connection.

      While still a lot of people, it's by no means 3/4 of the country.

    3. Re:A Good Product For American Market.... by norminator · · Score: 1

      42.1 percent of American households now own a computer...
      In 2003 about 13 percent of American households are actually using broadband...
      Even if you double broadband to 26%, you have 74% still using dial-up.


      Do you mean 13% of households are using broadband, or 13% of household computer owners are using braodband... because if only 42% of households have a computer, I'm pretty sure that 74% of households aren't using dial-up. So if it's 13% of total households using broadband (as your link states), that's 31% of computer owners, or if you use your high-end estimate of 26%, that's more than 62% household computer users with broadband. In any case, you don't have 74% of computer users using dial-up.

      Or did you mean 13%/26% of computer users using broadband? You should be more clear when labeling your statistics and using statistics from totally different sources.

    4. Re:A Good Product For American Market.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Apple IIx

      You seem to be having problems with the angle of your font. There was no IIx. There was a //+

      Ok, I lie. It was a ][+ the // didn't come in until the //e

    5. Re:A Good Product For American Market.... by Binestar · · Score: 1

      I just went through a list of everyone I know who owns a computer.

      Parents, Grandparents, brother, sister, aunt/uncle, cousin, cousin, friends from highschool (x5), 75 year old librarian, neighbor.

      Every last one of them has internet access as well. 100%.

      I've thought this over for about 5 minutes, so it *IS* possible I'm missing someone I know who has a computer but no internet access, but I honestly can't think of any. Considering that computers come with 3-6 months of free AOL/Earthlink nowadays, I really don't think that the number of unconnected computers are higher than 5-10% if even that high.

      Wish I could find a study on this.

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    6. Re:A Good Product For American Market.... by Colombian85 · · Score: 1

      I'm not going to tell you that it's a high percentage, but it is there. Even if you call it 5% unconnected computers, that's still another 2% to remove from the dial-up users.

      Most people I know with computers have broadband. It's not that much more expensive anymore. Most of the ones that use dial-up (again, in my experience) are people that rarely use their computer and probably wouldn't be willing to invest $150 in a product they don't need in the first place.

    7. Re:A Good Product For American Market.... by Binestar · · Score: 1

      I agree that the product in question is certainly a niche product. I think of it more along the lines of a wireless network connection you can bring from hotel to hotel and be able to work on your laptop. Not a very large population needs to do that, but the capability is there and $150 is nothing to people who would actually use it for that.

      With most hotels starting to offer wireless anyways, it's becoming and even smaller niche market, but the market is still there.

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    8. Re:A Good Product For American Market.... by mpapet · · Score: 1

      I admit I banged the stats out quickly, so let me try again with a little more clarity.
      1. I think it's reasonable to assume 42% of American households have computers.
      2. Of the 42%, I think it's reasonable to assume somewhere between 13% and 26% are broadband users.
      3. Of the remaining 42% of households with computers and no broadband, I'd guess 90% are using dial-up. I'm leaving 10% of the no broadband users with no internet connection at all.

      To put it in very simple number terms:
      If there were only 100 americans, 42 of them would have computers in their home. Of the 42 with computers, between 5 and 10 have broadband. The dial-up group would be between 28 and 33 users. 4 users would have a computer with no internet connection.

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  33. Not the point by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I can't help but feel this isn't the solution people need. Rather, more cities should take the stand Philadelphia has by attempting to provide WiFi for the entire city http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20040901-4149 .html

    That completely misses the point. Currently city-wide WiFi *doesn't* exist in many places, so the point is what you do in the meantime? Also note the use for a traveller - in a hotel, placing a local call to an AOL number (those free discs are good for something) is probably free, while the place might not have WiFi.

    1. Re:Not the point by bigwavejas · · Score: 2
      That completely misses the point. Currently city-wide WiFi *doesn't* exist in many places, so the point is what you do in the meantime?

      Mr Underbridge, I clearly stated, "until we find an alternative - this product is necessary."

      Good day sir.

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    2. Re:Not the point by RicktheBrick · · Score: 1

      I see no point to this product as there are allot of solutions available which are much cheaper. I can not see any advantage to a traveller to have a wireless access in a motel room. Most of us will do their work at a desk where the phone jack will be close to anyway. One could buy a long cord to get to anywhere else in the room. If there happen to be two people in the same room who need access then a crossover cable connected to each computer with one using a proxy for it's access would work at a lot less expense. The same goes for home use. If more than two people require access at a home it would be entirely too slow for everyone with a dial-up service. Most homes now have phone jacks in most rooms so dial-up is only a problem when more than one wants access at the same time. Even if there is no phone jack one can buy a device which will allow phone access wirelessly for less than half their price.

    3. Re:Not the point by tricorn · · Score: 1

      Long cord to the wall. An ethernet cable between two laptops. And it all goes crashing to the ground the first time someone has to get up to go to the bathroom and trips over one of those cords. Hotel rooms are often very inconvenient for where the phone jack might be located, this makes a LOT of sense. If I travelled more and had to use hotels that didn't have ethernet (or wireless) access, I'd certainly consider buying one of these things. I almost bought one of the old Airport base stations several years ago with a build-in modem, but it was just a bit too expensive and bulky.

      For home use, I've had problems getting phone access to where the machine is (and tying down a laptop with a long phone cord is just stupid and annoying).

      Not solving the laptop problem, but solving the dual-access problem without running long runs of ethernet cable, my solution in the past, when I was running an old APS clone Mac with OS9 and a laptop running Mac OSX was to set up a small wireless router, connect the OS9 machine to one of the ports, and have the laptop connect to it (with static addresses on both, DHCP on the base station turned off, nothing connected to the WAN port of the router). Then I could ssh in to the OSX machine and run a script to manually start up natd (OSX standard options allow connection sharing, but only if it is acting as the network base, not if it is connecting to something else). Worked great, more reliable than using the Linksys "Wireless Gaming Adapter" (which really sucks!) to connect the other way.

    4. Re:Not the point by chris234 · · Score: 1

      Ok, you see no point, that's fine. Me, I've been looking for one of these for a while now. A lot of my travel, especially vacation travel, is to places without wireless or ethernet access, for example when we've rented a house with some other families for vacation. In those cases we have several people wanting access, and this type of unit is ideal. In the past I've brought my Airport along, but a less bulky device would be good.

    5. Re:Not the point by Hognoxious · · Score: 1
      Long cord to the wall. An ethernet cable between two laptops. And it all goes crashing to the ground the first time someone has to get up to go to the bathroom and trips over one of those cords.
      Two people in a hotel room and your primary concern is about tripping over cables. Sir, I salute you for your geekiness.
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  34. Guinness in a CAN is a brilliant device by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously. They've got this nitrogen ball thingy inside the can. I don't know the science well enough to try to explain what it does. All I can say is that as a result, Guinness from a can is superior to Guinness from a bottle.

    1. Re:Guinness in a CAN is a brilliant device by Mike+Quin · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but it's still not the same a real Guinness from a keg.

    2. Re:Guinness in a CAN is a brilliant device by zbeeble · · Score: 1

      REAL Guinness comes in bottles. It is also quite different from the draught stuff.

    3. Re:Guinness in a CAN is a brilliant device by ScottyUK · · Score: 2, Informative

      Guinness also market a Draught bottle here in the UK, with the associated floating widget. Works on the same principle as the can. So as a result, Guinness from a Draught bottle is just as good as Guinness from a Draught can. Guinness "original" (non-Draught) cans and bottles taste better in some opinions, but dont have the signature head on them. Can't beat it from a pub pump anyways.

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    4. Re:Guinness in a CAN is a brilliant device by Fox_1 · · Score: 1

      I saw a piece on TV about both (they're both here in Canada), the can and bottle both have widgets, but the widgets are 2 different ones with different gas release methods,(a ball for can, rocket for bottle, nitrogen and CO2) the end result being pretty similar to True Guinness. The 'Rocket Widget' from the bottle actually keeps a good head on the beer while you drink from the bottle, which is nice.

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    5. Re:Guinness in a CAN is a brilliant device by ScottyUK · · Score: 1
      The 'Rocket Widget' [briansbelly.com] from the bottle actually keeps a good head on the beer while you drink from the bottle, which is nice.
      Indeed, it is printed on the Draught bottles I've seen that it's recommended to drink straight from the bottle. It's a nice effect either way - Guinness just isn't the same without the head :)
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  35. Probably less that Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple Marketing must cut ./ big checks these days. Remember the good ole days when ./ wasn't a Mac advocacy site.

  36. Re:WOW, not like this hasnt been out for.... 6 yea by jdreed1024 · · Score: 3, Informative
    He mentions the AirPort in the first sentence of the actual review (yes, I realize it's /. and you're not supposed to read the article), but points out (correctly) that this is much smaller. It's also cheaper (about $40) and the design of the airport does not lend itself to portability - I tried lugging one around a bit to do dialup without the hassle of a phone cord, and it did not easily fit in a standard laptop bag. That, and the Airport wallwart sucks. At least, the early Airport Extreme (grey) wall wart sucks, perhaps it sucks less now.

    The Airport Express is about the same size as this device, but it doesn't have a modem.

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  37. Nice advertisement asshole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yea you're not fooling anyone - that is an advertisement, not an article. Grow a dick timothy.

  38. Interested by electronerdz · · Score: 1

    I think this is just something Timothy is interested in: http://www.monkey.org/~timothy/dialup.html.

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  39. This is news? by gozar · · Score: 1

    Apple's original airport has done this for what, 6-7 years? In fact, when my sister in law was looking for a wireless access point, she picked up a graphite base station from eBay for $56. Works fine with her Dell laptop.

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  40. At last my day has finally dawned! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For years I watched with bitter jealousy as human after human stepped into the ranks of the bandwidth-wellendowed. Unable to participate on account of the infinitessimal computer-to-banjo ratio in my "town", I comforted myself with lies about the inherant insecurity of broadband, the uselessness of high-speed internet connections, and of course, slurs about those who live in basements belonging to their mothers. But no more! This WiFlyer will usher in a new age of something or other, and I will be right at the cusp of it! So welcome your new 56K overlords, plebes! All your bATZ NO CARRIER

  41. Close, maybe no cigar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are perfectly good applications for low bandwidth. The Rim Blackberry would be an example of such.

    Having said the above, this looks like something that doesn't quite solve a problem. Or maybe it does. Web sites should be accessible. In other words, web sites should not depend on images for navigation (otherwise, blind people can't use them.) As well, there are web sites that can be used from cell phones. Dial-up should still be adequate for most people.

    Lots of (most) people don't want to run cables. I bet more computers are sold wireless than wired these days. This product could well work (for someone else, not me.)

  42. Re:Apple Airport and AOL by cbelt3 · · Score: 1

    I would NOT consider support for AOl's implementation of non-standard protocols to be a plus. Nor would I consider it to be a good thing to continue to support AOl's overpriced dialup solution.

    Oh, and of course Apple's solution is bigger. It's older. Your sexy little laptop used to be a lot bigger too, back when the concept was developed.

  43. What language was this in? by gkuz · · Score: 1

    Is it just me, or was that first paragraph darn near incomprehensible? Oh well, what else would you expect from timothy (except maybe to see this ad again tomorrow)?

  44. SemiOT: Issues with Reviews & Reactions by Andr0s · · Score: 2, Insightful

    OK. This is getting a bit annoying, so I'll raise the question...

    Reading comments above, I can't help but notice a significant number of 'paid advert' comments; why is it that, every time someone gives a thorough overview of a device, piece of software or book, the pitchfork-and-torch mob forms to accuse the author of advertising? That kind of reaction most likely actively discourages people from providing good, well-written reviews - and when those are gone, what you're left with is really not worth reading.

    As for the item itself, being an IT/Tech Support professional, I must say I do see a lot of usefulness in the device in some specific situations, although it might not have a significant presence in most everyday enviroments. Main issues I see are that hybrid technology is obviously sacrificing performance for sake of flexibility, and things such as reduced WiFi range/signal quality pretty much tend to reduce usefulness to the point of making it not worth using in the eye of average user.

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    1. Re:SemiOT: Issues with Reviews & Reactions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man, oh man, what an ass lick! So tell me, how does Timmy's ass taste? Sweet? Salty?

    2. Re:SemiOT: Issues with Reviews & Reactions by Andr0s · · Score: 1

      Marvellously insightful, constructive and generally discussion-encouraging comment, sir. Here. Have a spoon. Eat shit.

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  45. Re:WOW, not like this hasnt been out for.... 6 yea by gknac · · Score: 2, Informative

    My Basestation has always worked fine for travel, i've never found the size to be restricting. However this product's 20foot range could turn into a problem.

  46. Let me get this straight by o-hayo · · Score: 1
    You didn't like Apple's Airport because of its size, even though it *comes* with a wall-mount bracket so you can mount it "high on a cubicle wall," something you find lacking in this device. It also has the ability to connect an external antenna for better range, has no cheap-ass 5 DHCP address limit (btw how LAME), and supports WPA. It also has a super-neat dialin feature using the modem so you can connect back into your network remotely if you did end up some place with broadband and the airport took a more permanent role in a home network.

    Wait, so why didn't you like the Airport?

  47. Do you Apple Astroturfers get Paid? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you on Apple's Marketing Department payroll? They been astorturfing for a loooooong time on ./

  48. 1200 bps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1200 bps. Those where the days. :-/

  49. Cheaper to DIY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go buy a webramp on ebay, a cheap WAP, an external modem and your done. Where I live now there is NO broadband period. And I have no phone line anywhere near the room the PC is in - I did this and it works great. The only thing you need to do is adjust the MTU rate down on the wireless adpater on your pc....

  50. Re:WOW, not like this hasnt been out for.... 6 yea by Cesare+Ferrari · · Score: 1

    Well, my original 802.11b airport is still going strong after a fair number of years. I bought it with an iMac G3/450, so i'd guess that was 1999 or somewhere around there.
    It's handled dialup access, bridging a wired ethernet to wireless machines, and now hangs off my adsl switch/modem as a wireless bridge. It really was a revolutionary product.

  51. Using a modem in a hotel is EXPENSIVE by bender647 · · Score: 1

    Many hotels provide broadband access now (via ethernet in your room, and often WiFi in the lobby). I used to balk at the price to use it, as I'm only checking my emails. But at the cost they charge for outgoing local phone calls, buying a night's worth of broadband is often cheaper than using your modem for 5 minutes.

    1. Re:Using a modem in a hotel is EXPENSIVE by tricorn · · Score: 1

      I've used an AT&T calling card (Sam's Club, 3.47 cents/minute) - best I could do was 28K, which is actually pretty amazing considering how it gets routed. A lot of hotels allow free local calls, but then you need to be using a national ISP, and have a local access number, for that to help. In my case, I was dialing up from Hawaii to my local ISP.

  52. Re:WOW, not like this hasnt been out for.... 6 yea by cypherz · · Score: 1

    The airport works just fine without the silly "flying saucer" outer case. You can connect other antennas to it as well. I took the case off of mine to make it easier to pack in my luggage. without the case it fits well into most laptop cases. the original Airport wall wart is a little harder to downsize.

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  53. for linux notebooks? by stm2 · · Score: 1

    In my notebook I couldn't make the internal modem work (Toshiba M35X S149, Ubuntu 5.04). But the built-in WiFi card works out of the box with Ubuntu. So I think I could buy this to use my modem when traveling to a place without wireless internet? Or would be better to buy a pcmcia card modem? I think this could be best since I know that my wifi works, but I don't know about pcmcia modems and linux compatibility.

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  54. Re:WOW, not like this hasnt been out for.... 6 yea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lucent/Orinoco's RG-1000 also had this functionality; I think before the Airport, but I can't confirm that. I've used mine for years (since early 2000) until yesterday when I replaced it with all that cheap 802.11g ZyXEL equip on dealnews.

  55. No MultiLink? by neonfrog · · Score: 1

    For $150 it can't even use 2 phone lines? Maybe this is great for that small segment of travelers who can't use a phone cord, but for those of us who are really *living* with only POTS lines this device is remarkably limited.

    I could buy a used WebRamp off Ebay, and a brand new wireless router at CostCo, for less than $100 and have every PC in the house able to surf at 100k, and take phone calls dynamically! Now if this device did v.92 functions (Call Waiting stuff) reliably AND managed 2 lines it might be more interesting at $150.

    Otherwise this is for the limited number of people that can't put together the system I describe, have a laptop with wireless, and are stuck on a single POTS line (you can afford a laptop with wireless, but you can't get a 2nd phone line? Huh??)

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    1. Re:No MultiLink? by tricorn · · Score: 1

      There are lots of old hand-me-down laptops with wireless. A second phone line costs real money. You'd also need an ISP that allows you to connect more than once, plus if you don't have an unlimited account, you're using your minutes at twice the rate. For most people, it isn't worth it (makes more sense to just go with broadband at that point). Besides, it doesn't do you any good for the hotel room, which is the primary thing this thing seems to be aimed at.

    2. Re:No MultiLink? by neonfrog · · Score: 1

      You make many good points.

      But this thing costs $150!!!

      If you are in the hand-me-down laptop market and the thought of a 2nd phone line is too much, then you are seriously eyeing the 50 foot phone cord from the dollar store anyway. I know people exactly like this and I helped them get a WebRamp for $25. They were much happier. $150 would not even have entered the discussion -- they'd have gone back to the 50 foot cord first.

      A 2nd hand-me-down computer of any kind (with a modem) and a wi-fi card can be had for much less money to provide the exact same functionality.

      The modem technology inside it is dead simple. How hard would it have been to include 2 modems and a little RJ-12 splitter? Especially at that cost?

      $150. I'm just floored. This is obviously for the business traveler who has nearly everything and just has to put his laptop on the hotel bed without any wires. That's the only market it really serves well. The home and home office markets (the other two they are targetting) are better served in so many other less expensive and more powerful ways. You're either comparing a $150 gizmo with a $1 cord, or your comparing a quite limited, but expensive, single purpose device with less expensive and more powerful equipment. That was the point I was trying to make.

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  56. I just think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...I'll keep my Nokia D211... it is a TriBand GSM modem and 802.11b wireless adapter... in one PCMCIA card...

  57. Time travel? by nsayer · · Score: 1

    WTF, is it suddenly 1999 again?

  58. Re:WOW, not like this hasnt been out for.... 6 yea by timbck2 · · Score: 1
    I took the case off of mine to make it easier to pack in my luggage.


    Has this ever caused you problems going through airport security? It seems like they'd frown on bare, unidentifiable circuit boards & power supplies going through security.
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  59. Reviews & Reactions: Been Burnt- Ads Happen! by bubbaD · · Score: 1

    "why is it that, every time someone gives a thorough overview of a device, piece of software or book, the pitchfork-and-torch mob forms to accuse the author of advertising"

    Because stealth advertising happens so often. Especially on tech sites, people are getting paid to deliver "content" on various products. This actually happens a lot in print media too, its just not as easy to provide feedback about the fact in that medium.

  60. Re:WOW, not like this hasnt been out for.... 6 yea by orgelspieler · · Score: 1

    TSA guy: What's this thing?
    cypherz: It's my Airport.
    T: No, we're *in* an airport. What's this circuit in your bag?
    c: You see, it's my Airport, just without the flying saucer.
    T: Of course we don't have any flying saucers, but what is this?
    c: I told you, *my* Airport.
    T: No, this is *my* airport! [arrests cyphers]

  61. Re:WOW, not like this hasnt been out for.... 6 yea by cypherz · · Score: 1

    That sounds just about right. Wanna get selected for _ALL_ the "random" security checks? Just check a firearm in your luggage. Go ahead and declare it like you're supposed to do. You will have more "security" than you can stand! Great fun! The nude airport would just be the icing on the cake!

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  62. Re:WOW, not like this hasnt been out for.... 6 yea by chris234 · · Score: 1

    The RG-1000 and the Airport are more or less contemporaries. In fact, they're the same hardware (although you wouldn't be able to tell looking at the cases!). About the only difference is the RG-1000's power supply is a different voltage (there is a small daughterboard in both products that the supply plugs into).

  63. SPEND MONEY on this stupid NON PROBLEM! by slappyjack · · Score: 1

    Whats next? A cigarette shaped box that lets you use your cell phone over POTS for when you dont have signal, just so you can dail directly from your adress book?

    - - - - -

    I really dont see any advantage to this. Is setting up DUN on your average businessman's machine that frikkin hard that they need the comfort of a webform to do their dailing in? Its not like they're entering in any LESS information.

    I mean... just... *WOW*. Talk about creating a solution to a problem that really doesnt exist. You could just hit the local starbucks and pay for a days access 15 times for ths cost of this thing, and its immensely faster, or do your homework and dig up a list of FREE access points in an hour or so.

    I especially liked the "Bonus" of having 128 bit encryption for the 20' of wireless you get, especially when they failed to note that your data still slams through the phone line in somplete plaintext unless you're using SSL.

    MARKETING WEASELS!

    The only way I can see the avantage of having a wireless connection to your phone line is for the guy who wants to sit on his cabin's porch in the great outdoors getting his email over a 40 year old phone line thats half chewed by varmints.

    Then again, who the fuck wants email then? And still, why not just spend a few bucks on a long phone cord?

    <unrelated note>
    Q: WHY would you go to a coffeeshop and get wireless there?

    A: Cute young barristas, thats why.
    </unrelated note>

    1. Re:SPEND MONEY on this stupid NON PROBLEM! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      getting his email over a 40 year old phone line thats half chewed by varmints"

      You'd be surprised how many urban broadband users get their DSL over 40, 50, or 60-year-old phone lines.

      "WHY would you go to a coffeeshop and get wireless there?
      A: Cute young baristas, thats why."


      Not just the baristas, buddy. Eventually I realized I was only going to coffee shops near the universities, hehehe. And now, it's summertime, when student fashions improve...

    2. Re:SPEND MONEY on this stupid NON PROBLEM! by slappyjack · · Score: 1

      You'd be surprised how many urban broadband users get their DSL over 40, 50, or 60-year-old phone lines.

      Good point, Mr. AC. But i DID note the "chewed by varmints" part.

      Youre also correct abuot the clientelle, but I was speaking more from immediate surroundings.

      Offtopic... Offtopic... Offtopic...
      (Who said /. isn't FUN anymore?)

    3. Re:SPEND MONEY on this stupid NON PROBLEM! by luomat · · Score: 1

      You might be surprised to learn that there are people who live in areas where cable/DSL is not available, and yes, where they don't get cell phone signal.

      There's not even a Starbucks in town, or anywhere else offering free WiFi.

      Scary, eh?

    4. Re:SPEND MONEY on this stupid NON PROBLEM! by slappyjack · · Score: 1

      so back to the point... why do they need this device that dails in for them then gives crappy wireles coverage when they could save $140 and just get a long phone cord.

      I mean, ues, wireless is nice, but its not like you actually type with one hand, hold the laptop with the other, and pace all over the fucking house. You move, you plop down, and you get to it. Time passes, you move again. The chord isnt as big a deal as they make it out to be.

    5. Re:SPEND MONEY on this stupid NON PROBLEM! by luomat · · Score: 1


      You are kidding, right?

      Why does ANYONE need WiFI under those conditions? (just carry a long piece of ethernet!)

      In case you are unable to imagine why, here's a few examples:

      1) I don't always use my computer in the same place (yes, once I plop down, I tend to stay there, but not always). Sometimes I'm in the living room, sometimes in the den, sometimes in the study/guest room (which doesn't have a phone jack anywhere near it)

      2) cords are annoying. The phone jack in the living room is behind the couch. Should I leave the wire hanging over it so I can find it when I need it, or under it so it can slip back out of reach?

      3) No phone jack on the deck. Running a long phone cord would mean running across the doorway between the dining room and kitchen. With my 3 year old son and my 70 year old father living here, we try to avoid "trip hazards" whenever possible

      4) the cord is always where you aren't. Today alone I've been 3 different places in the house using the WiFI

      5) If you do want to move, unplugging the phone cord loses your connection. WiFi means that I just close the lid, walk upstairs or down, open it, and pick up where I left off

      6) Many households, including this one, have more than one computer user and more than one computer. "Can you get offline? I want to check my email!" is what you get when you try to share a phone line.... (Oh, and before anyone suggests Internet Connection Sharing on a desktop, a) We don't have or want a desktop and b) leaving a computer always on for a WiFi connection is dumb and wasteful.

      The reasons dialup users want WiFi is the same reason that everyone else wants it.

      ps - for the above I refer to my use of an Airport Extreme, which was more expensive than this unit but also has been around for awhile when I needed it

  64. Doesn't address an apparent bogus claim. by Eric+S.+Smith · · Score: 1

    While the 20-foot range that the reviewer experienced is more than a little short of the claimed 300 feet, this review doesn't provide any details on what looks like another pretty bogus claim on the product's Web page: "Quick-connect button eliminates time waiting for dialup connection."

    There's a limit to how fast you can dial, and I don't see how any kind of button could reduce the time you spend waiting for the modems to sync.

  65. Been doing this with Windows XP for over a year by journeyman101 · · Score: 1

    And why is this news? Why would anyone want to buy a dedicated device for this purpose? Especially if you already have a desktop PC. Even the most novice user can setup Internet connection sharing on Windows XP. Toss a Wireless USB card on the desktop, turn on Ad-hoc and voila! You can use your laptop wirelessly over dialup. Of course this can be down with linux as well.

    1. Re:Been doing this with Windows XP for over a year by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I've been doing it with OpenBSD for several years. In hostap mode, not ad-hoc. 'Tis a snap!

  66. I see a different point... by Kamiza+Ikioi · · Score: 1

    I'm just weird, but I see a different point personally. Having no phone, the dial up means little/nothing to me. But, ether+wireless in one card, and bridging the two to share. Well, that's just something I never knew I needed until I read this review. I don't like wireless security. But, I like to occasionally unplug and walk outside in the fresh air and read /. and comment on stories about wireless cards.

    This would save people like me the hassle of popping cards in and out (potentially breaking them... and I've demolished many). The only Wifi I'm interested in is the one from my router, not from an access provider or hotel (don't travel that much). But, even for me, I find this a useful product, especially if it has linux support.

    Now, if I could just find a versitile power adapter that can auto-detect a device's polarity/voltage requirements (if it ain't out there, I got first dibs on the IP, hehe).

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  67. Re:WOW, not like this hasnt been out for.... 6 yea by eoyount · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's not $40, the WiFlyer is around $150, the $40 price he mentioned was for an external antenna.

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  68. Small But I Prefer ... by valdezjuan · · Score: 1

    While I like the idea of it being a small device I still prefer 'always' having Wireless Broadband if the hotel does not have it. There is usually another hotel in the same vacinity that does have a wireless network which can usually be hijacked. The basic set up I use is my 17" powerbook, an Apple Airport Extreme base station (just because I have one, you can get much cheaper base stations from other manufacturers), a can antenna(yes I am too lazy to build my own), and a Dlink Bridge.

    Basically you set up the base station to DHCP from the bridge (via ethernet). Now the Dlink Bridge has a pretty lame antenna attatched to it. So what I do is use the Cantenna (yes, see lazy comment above) and point it in the direction that I want it to. If the network is encrypted I use the wireless card that came in my original airport base station (an Orinoco silver card), since the Airport Extreme one has closed source drivers (that have not been reversed yet), too sniff and collect packets. Kismac is an excellent wireless tool for the Mac. It supports several different cards and supports Wordlist, Brute Force, and Scheduling Attacks (which I find usually get me into most networks). The Dlink Bridge has a pretty simple web interface that allows you to set it up to join a specific network. It also supports scanning for networks, though I find that it doesn't seem to pick up everything that maybe out there. I set this up on top of those ridiculously tall TV cabinets and I can kick back on the bed without those pesky ethernet cables. This can also be useful if you have a large house (or a small house with interferance) to connect up in rooms that were previously spotty.

    The pre-made Can Antenna can be purchased for $49.99 (via CompUSA or the web), the Dlink Bridge is $109 from Fry's, Airport Express for $199 (various vendors).

    I have found that some hotels have pretty crappy coverage in the outer rooms, so they let you 'barrow' (for a deposit) one of the Dlink Bridges, preconfigured to join their networks. Pretty handy. So if you happen to be in a hotel toward the outside and the coverage is spotty, you may want to check with the front desk to see if they have one. It could make your life much easier. =)

  69. Wireless at 30000 ft by bkaddy · · Score: 1

    Plug it into the data port of the phone on the plane and share your wireless with everyone else on board.

  70. The Original Apple Airport Access Point by gurutc · · Score: 1

    Did all this and much more. I bought several for far less than this price.

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  71. Now if this'd work with my Sprint CDMA Phone by gurutc · · Score: 1

    I'd be impressed.

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  72. Price of IQ upgrade.... by fm6 · · Score: 1
    Jeeze, dud, do you have any notion what a WAP is? Obviously nobody buys one just to get one computer on the Internet. It's for shared connections.

    Of course, that leaves us with the obvious question: is a 53K connection worth sharing?

  73. Fuck Off Taco by kenp2002 · · Score: 1

    Slashdot.org

    ADS FOR GEEKS
    SHIT THAT DOESN'T MATTER

    This article was a paid advertisement, no question in my mind. I think slashdot is sliding quicker then the USA's reputation. Way to go Taco, way to run you brain child into the fucking ground.

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  74. Clarification :) by timothy · · Score: 1

    For $10, I didn't get *just* the plugs.

    That came with two short (6' and 3') lengths of cable, and adapter ends to make phone cord, ethernet, and several varieties of USB connection. Not bad for the price :)

    timothy

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  75. Re:WOW, not like this hasnt been out for.... 6 yea by On_fire7 · · Score: 1

    ... He meant it was $40 cheaper, not that it was $40...