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Google Talk Available Early
smash writes "Google's new IM service is already live. All you need is a Jabber-compatible Instant Messaging client (such as Apple's iChat, or gaim), and a GMail address." This should answer, at least in part, all of the speculation that has been flying around the net over the last couple of days. Update: Many users have been eager to let us know that Google Talk in indeed live.
Stay tuned to Google tomorrow for details.
Er, is that one http://tomorrow.google.com/ ?
Any word on when Gmail is going to go public? Last I heard google news was waiting because of it's inability to create revenue because they were using other peoples news or some such. But the mail portion has adds and the like, so I guess it is able to make revenue.
What is a google?
Use the power of google search to find juicy tidbits in other's google talk conversations!
... with all the other IM servies I have to sign in on at once to be in contact with everyone. MSN, AIM, misc jabber servers... and on and on. I wonder what google thinks they're going to add to chat services?
Um. Jabber is a full fledged messaging program.
This is basically just google providing a public jabber server. I haven't gotten around to setting one up for myself, but have wanted to use a high quality, highly available, reliable jabber server to stick an account on. Now that google is doing it - I absolutely will.
This is exactly what I said they should do in the first place. Hurray!
All it is is proof that google has a public jabber server.. One can assume they will be releasing a client anyday now... Let them at least... ANNOUNCE the product before you judge it.
- what is the definition of simultanagnosia?! I've been meaning to look it up!
Google Talk is great, but what I REALLY need is 'Google ShutUp' to make the irritating people I know go away while providing them with targetted, text-based ads.
Just use "me" as the username, without the @gmail.com. I got on with GAIM just fine.
Will they release an office suite?
Will they release a browser?
Will they release a line of refrigerators?
Will they purchase Oracle?
Will they purchase Uruguay?
Will they hire Stallman?
Will they hire Ballmer?
Will they hire Peter Griffin?
I sure as hell don't know, but I'm sure I'll hear about it constantly on GashDot. Um... I mean Slashoogle. Er, that is... Slooshdot. Eh, fuck it.
I wonder if they will add Google-style spellchecking... omfg lol rofl - Did you mean "I'm a sad script kiddy?"
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Ok, so their server works. That's the part that most of us don't care about. What sort of client will GIM be using? Isn't that what makes it or breaks it for most of us?
The reasoning behind google sponsoring so many people to work on GAIM for summer of code? Maybe they will release a gaim based client?
(Thirty-odd comments and the site is little slow. Just in case...)
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I'm on Google Talk right now.
Google Talk = Google's new IM service that they're announcing tomorrow.
All you need is a Jabber-compatible Instant Messaging client (such as Apple's iChat, or GAIM), and a GMail address. Digg this, NOW!
WELCOME SLASHDOT!
Server: talk.google.com
Username: youremail@gmail.com **OR** youremail@talk.google.com (pick one)
Password: yourpassword
Note: If you can't login, try to turn off 'Secure Messaging' or 'Encryption'... etc.
-- TRILLIAN USERS: Someone just told me that they got it working with Trillian, but I can't verify this. Just go to Trillian's plugin page on their site and download the Jabber plug-in, install it, and configure a new connection as below:
"server : talk.google.com
port : 5222
Use legact SSL for connection : not checked"
How to set it up with GAIM on Windows/Linux, or Adium on the Mac:
-- For iChat, just enter the information above.
1. Add an account, select "Jabber" as the protocol.
2. Your screen name is everything before the '@gmail.com'.
3. Server is 'talk.google.com' as listed above.
4. Click "show more options" and make sure "use TLS if available" is checked. Leave "Force old SSL" and "allow plaintext..." unchecked for now. Connection port should be 5222, connection server should be blank... if not just 'talk.google.com' without the quotes.
5. Ta-da! Just login and you should be good-to-go.
Another user reports the following:
"weird, I've never sent you email from my gmail, and now that you're on my buddy list on google talk, it autofilled your email address, and alias on my gmail"
-- The "/me" command works too, even on iChat. "/me says hi" translates to "smash says hi" or whatever if you're not familiar!
Feel free to IM around with fellow GMail users just by adding their addresses to your list! I'm not sure how long this is going to work, but let's make the best of it.
UPDATE: I'm online right now, give me a hollar if you're able to login! I'm talking with someone I added to my list.
Dear Slashdot: next time you want to mess with the site, add a rich-text editor for comments.
Now I have yet another account with no buddies in Gaim.
I've been using http://adium.sourceforge.net/ for a while now, it totally rocks.
looks like it allows connections from tor servers. I love routing my IM's over tor to stop prying eyes. ;-)
The reason for their distribution pattern is a little to prevent abuse, a little to create a community network and to be honest, it was a really good beta testing idea.
It prevents spammers auto-registering a ton (if someone starts to invite a bunch of spam bots, you can easily trace and break the propagation chain) and prevented the server from being overloaded during the initial run.
From a Computer Science and Social Engineering standpoint, it was/is a good setup. Get over it.
some news agencies are quoting a AP press report:
http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=3757295
Is there anyway to get a list of conference rooms on Google Talk?
You say things that offend me and I can deal with it. Can you?
I've been using Google Talk for a little while with my Gmail account and iChat. One interesting thing I noticed is every time you send an e-mail in Gmail, that person is automatically added to your buddy list as "Not Authorized" (where users I add are "Waiting for Authorization", at least until I talk to them). This is kind of annoying, since there are lots of people I contact using Gmail that I know will never get Jabber (for example, a mailing list e-mail address).
Other than that, it seems really neat. Oh, also, icons and offline IM don't appear to work. If someone knows how to get those to work, I'd be interested to hear it.
Andrew
PS: You can jabber me at adpowers@gmail.com
Google Talk ... and all that dark fibre Goggle has been buying up? This isn't just about instant messenger - Google is building the next voice communications network! With their new WiFi hotspots - it could be wireless voice communications (at least if you're in a major center).
Bee-bee-boo-boop "Picard to all phone companies: You are being replaced."
- The Kessel run is for nerf herders. I can circumnavigate the entire Central Finite Curve in a lot less than 12 parse
Myself and a buddy of mine just got kicked off. Think they found out and shut it down? Any others having the problem?
I logged in earlier, but now I'm blocked.
Another thing some people might have noticed is that reverse DNS for talk.google.com is toolbar.google.com. Now have a look at JEP0151.
No GNU has been Hurd during the making of this comment.
Now if only I could figure out how to put on these damn pants. I can never seem to get them past my shoulders...
You can still log in to the server! You just need to fudge it a little.
:cool:
In Gaim's "Server" field put in gmail.com.
But, in the "Connect server" field put in talk.google.com.
Now, connect
From http://www.google.com/intl/en/corporate/tenthings. html
Google does search. Google does not do horoscopes, financial advice or chat.
(Guess they better remember to update that page when they make the announcement...)
And the real burning question - When can I get my Googlescope???
Did I say overlords? I meant protectors.
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2005/08/23/googe-talk -review/
Used my gmail address for username, same pw.
On the second Tab I checked the first 3 boxes and set the server to talk.google.com with port auto set to 5223.
I had an error with qca tls on connection, but an apt-get install qca-tls later I was online.
Now if only all my contacts would get over to google messenger we would be set...
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On Arrakis: early worm gets the bird. Magister mundi sum!
Here's how you can connect to all 5 IM protocols with Apple's iChat.
u gh-jabber
:-)
http://allforces.com/2005/05/06/ichat-to-msn-thro
It works flawlessly and yes, it uses Jabber
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Hmmmm, as of this point it doesn't appear that you can have contacts on other jabber servers.
The whole point of jabber is that servers are distributed, the server name is part of the JID (Jabber ID) which means that JID's look a lot like email addresses.
I hope the inability to have contacts with non @gmail.com JID's is merely a pre-launch wrinkle.
Command attempted to use minibuffer while in minibuffer
I've got mine setup in gaim as:
Screen Name: ashlux
Server: gmail.com
TLS: checked
Port: 5222
Connect Server: talk.google.com
And it works just fine.
The Google Talk developer's page gives a good overview of Google's short-term plans for GTalk, such as partnering with Earthlink and Sipphone (or federating as they call it)
"It's like the Federation of Planets on your Star Trek program."
"Ohhhhhh"
Well then, I clicked on the video icon in my iGoogleChat buddy list to start a video chat with my friend, and it worked just fine. User experience and video qualkity were the same as "native iChat". Not sure who's "fault" this is -- iChat for managing to send video presence info through Jabber, or Jabber for supporting video presence. Whoever is responsible though: well done.
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Ha! Begging for Gmail invites! That's so 2004.
In the Google Talk client, in the icon tray, select About. Notice on the bottom light grey characters on the which background. They read: "play 23 21 13 16 21 19 7 1 13 5" Using a=1, z=26, it translates to: "play wumpus game" Not sure what to do with it, just thought it was interesting that it was there. Investigating...
After a bit more investigating, you can add the gmail user, er bot, wumpus.game@gmail.com and type "play" in the chat window to play the classic wumpus game.
from Wikipedia "wumpus": Hunt the Wumpus was an important early computer game. It was based on a simple hide-and-seek format, featuring a mysterious monster (the Wumpus) that lurked deep inside a network of rooms. Using a command line text interface, the player would enter commands to move through the rooms, or shoot arrows along crooked paths through several adjoining rooms. There were twenty rooms, each connecting to three others, arranged like the vertices of a dodecahedron (or the faces of an icosahedron). Hazards included bottomless pits, super bats (which would drop the player in a random location) and the Wumpus itself. When the player had deduced from hints which chamber the Wumpus was in without entering it, he would fire an arrow into the Wumpus' chamber to slay it. However, firing the arrow into the wrong chamber would startle the Wumpus, which might then devour the player. [...] Versions of Hunt the Wumpus are currently available all over the Internet, for almost all operating systems and machines, including Linux, Palm Pilot handheld computers, and mobile phones. The first bot on IRC was a multiplayer Hunt the Wumpus game, in which firing an arrow into a room with other players caused another player to be killed: "Foo is hit in the back with an arrow!" Unfortunately, the "Wumpus-o-Matic" player never made it off the drawing board. See also Rog-O-Matic. Wumpus have also made an appearance in the TCG Magic: The Gathering, specifically in the 1999 Mercadian Masques expansion. They appear mainly in the art for green cards in the set, though two are playable creatures: the appropriately named Hunted Wumpus, and also Thrashing Wumpus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wumpus
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rumor has it - invite wumpus.game@gmail.com, then IM it 'play'
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I don't see what your point it?
In my opinion, using jabber in a mainstream IM client (ie, one that is going to be used by joe schmoe and susy ann in jr. high keyboarding class while the teacher isn't looking) is a dramatic step forward.
Google is competing head on with the services that yahoo, aol, and msn provide. Only they are doing it using open standards, and allowing 3rd party clients. From my perspective, this is equivilent of Google putting the rest on notice:
"Look, we aren't going to let you rape your users anymore. We are going to do what you do... Properly."
I think this is a great step forward. Sure, you might think it is a waste of time in the long run.. and you might be right. But something like this NEEDED to be done in order to get the other IM services to play fair. Everyone already knows that the other services would have never opened their protocols without something like this coming forward. The rest will be required to follow suit or bail out of the business. (you may not see it now, but it is coming.. just watch)
Your ignorance is infinitely greater than you realize.
But what if a major event happened and everyone needed to email each other to say everything's okay??? Would Google have enough space to hold all the emails?? I demand to have a federal email corporation that insures that there's enough space in times of emergencies! If Google runs out of space, then the government should give us enough space for 100,000 emails. Otherwise, the people who send emails first will get all the email space and everyone else will be silenced and forced on the streets (to talk to people in person, God forbid!!).
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And google's jabber won't accept connections from other jabber servers making it a closed network. Think aim only running an open protocol. This just means that gaim doesn't have to reverse engineer anything. It's still not open to the jabber community.
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According to the Google Talk developer page, Google is only planning pre-arranged peering with a set of providers. Their goal, it appears, is to reduce spam and other abuses by ensuring that all clients are connecting through trusted services.
While I see their point, it does seem like a bit of a cop out. "Service choice" doesn't really mean much unless I can choose to use my own service and still inter-operate. A truly open system should allow anyone to play, not just the big boys.
Google needs to see your conversation in order to target an advert at you.
What would they try to sell you if all they saw was an encrypted stream?
For those that are stuck behind a firewall, I wrote up a detailed, step-by-step guide on using Google Talk over SSH. This includes instructions for Windows, Linux, and Mac OSX, and focuses on the official Google Talk client, iChat, and Gaim.
You can find the guide at Google Talk over SSH.
Enjoy!