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Creative MP3 Players Ship With Virus
TheChillPill wrote to mention a Register article which reports that Creative has instituted a recall for some 5GB Zen Neeons. The reason? About 3,700 were shipped with the Wullik-B email worm. From the article: "Creative is reporting that the virus affects players with serial numbers between 1230528000001 and 1230533001680 that have shipped in Japan in late July. According to a translation of Creative's statement (in Japanese) on the security flap the firm has temporarily stopped shipping Zen Neeons players while its partners assist in the recall of the infected batch. The firm said it has identified the source of the outbreak and fixed the problem. Creative said the virus contamination issue was confined to Zen Neeons players and didn't affect any of its other products."
Article is yet another dupe....original article can be found here.
Seriously, Zonk...this shit just isn't funny anymore. Perhaps you view your endless dupe posts as some sort of clever social commentary...or perhaps you've just taken a few too many sniffs of the huffing rag. Either way, we're getting pretty damned sick of it.
Do us all a favor and resign. While you're at it, wipe your hard drive and smash your modem.
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Oh my, I just can't believe how irresponsible Creative is being. This is the second time that they have shipped 3700 of these players with this exact same virus in less than a week!
I always save my last mod point to mod up a good troll. You people are too serious.
Stop the dupes!
http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/ 30/0118252&tid=184&tid=220
holy crap. never knew that.
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Does their patent cover this too?
Like deja vu all over again.
The original story.
-Peter
The question is, who owns the patent on shipping MP3 players with viruses? Will they take legal action?
Only 1 left in stock--order soon!!!
It's been said a million times, but this is precisely why I won't pay for a slashdot subscription. Nor will I click on any ads. Even if I see an ad that looks interesting (which is fairly often, I'll open a new tab and browse there manually rather than give slashdot the traffic revenue. An occasional dupe is one thing, but when 25% of the stories on the front page are dupes from YESTERDAY, it's clear that OSDN doesn't give a shit about quality.
this is getting old and so are you
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Care to wager if Creative has a patent on shipping MP3 players with pre-installed viruses?
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Slashdot gave me articles
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Eat them anyway!
Karma be dammed, you'll read them
and come back for more!
It's good to see that Taco worked incredibly hard to make Zonk the editorbot in his own image...
I'll turn into a supernova and burn up everything. Well I'll turn into a black little hole and you'll turn into string.
Actually, the virus causes reposts on the slashdot homepage. Apparently, he bought himself a Zen recently.
Now, *that's* Creative.
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They're sure getting creative with their viral marketing.
Slashdot dupe posts with virus.
To late, folks.
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No /. endlessly repeats the same storys.
Come on, Slashdotters. What's with the frowns on everyone's faces. Why is everyone taking these dupes so negatively? Just think of these dupes as reruns. We would love to crack jokes about Windows viruses, talk about how Linux should be used for everything, talk about how "creative" stuffing viruses in MP3 players are, and....
Oh, scratch the sarcasm. These dupes really are annoying.
So how long until we see a dupe of this dupe?
Seriously, searching the site doesn't take long, and now uses Google to do it, A quick search of Creative and virus would have found the original. You see?
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An excellent article, sir, with only two minor drawbacks: One, we already know about this FREE virus shipment and two, we we already know about this FREE virus shipment. Now I know technically speaking that's only one article, but I thought it was such a big one, it was worth mentioning twice.
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This, this, and this post in this very story.
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When I was working at Atari, an XBox master disc had to be recalled from manufacturing because a PC virus was found. It was caught early enough that there was no significant delay for the product. I'm surprised stuff like this doesn't happen more often.
Betcha they patented this innovative new interface, too: Method and Apparatus for the Propagation of Computer Viruses Via Music Player!
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"The firm said it has identified the source of the outbreak and fixed the problem."
So they're not running Windows anymore? ha.
What a wonderfully Creative way to distribute virii!
You know, with just the tiniest bit of effort, it would be SO easy for you not to suck out loud.
- take two seconds to see if a story has been posted before. sounds hard, but I hear computers can do amazing things these days.
- proofread submissions. you're allowed to change them. you know, like an editor.
- don't put an obnoxious slant on every little thing. more reporting, less commentary. if you have something to say, I hear slashdot allows comments nowadays. (comments, commentary... hmm. note to self, investigate possible connection.)
- cache. for fuck's sake, it's not funny anymore. if you don't want to put yourselves at risk, use coral or a similar service. They exist for a reason.
- contact small sites. which would you rather do: "scoop" other sites by an hour and reduce the server to molten rubble after 15 minutes, or contact the admin ahead of time and post the story two hours later? this is what separates responsible adults from behaviorally-challenged fuckwads.
- and once you've earned some credibility back,
- ???
- Profit! Until then, I refuse to pay to subscribe until you behave like a responsible outfit. one you quit behaving like retarded woms, I'll happily subscribe, knowing that you're a great source of links to interesting stories that I *didn't* see two days ago on the same site.
Dear Slashdot: next time you want to mess with the site, add a rich-text editor for comments.
Good times!
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I'm disgustipated.
I can't post from home because some crud-bucket on my ISP has misbehaved and slashdot is blocking me from posting there. Such creativity and innovation! Examples:
- Bar posting due to a spate of negative mods (never mind net total is positive.)
- Time delay for initial post
- Time delay between posts, longer for AC
- Content check for CAPS, too few letters per line, oddball characters appear too often, etc.
YET(!) no dupe checking code to help the editors avoid this common pitfall. You can see where the priorities lay.A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
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So was this bad press for Creative dupe put here as revenge because the editors love Apple and hate any company that would dare challenge Apple, especially with a frivolous patent?
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This article refered to a virus, while the previous "dupe" refered to a worm. Maybe the guy thought that the 2 cases are different? Heh.
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Saw this on CNET 2 days ago. Get with the program, /.
Normally I'd side with all those screaming "DUPE!", but this is a new article on theregister about this issue (1200 GMT 2005-09-01), so it's not like the links or even the summary are duped. Especially since this time they're talking about the recall rather than the discovery of the virus.
As an aside, what was up with the first article? A link to a babelfish translation... was no english version available? If that's all we had two or three days ago, it seems to me that this new article reference is a good thing.
Let S_n = {nst+us+vt : s,t in Z \ {0}, u,v in {-1,1}}. For all n in Z where |n| > 2, Z \ S_n is infinite... right?
They could license it and make millions!!!
Reminder: Apple owns 1/255th of the internet.
I agree completely. Lots of us don't have time to read /. every day, so we often appreciate dupes. In my case, at least 75% of the time I see complaints about a duped article, it's the first time I've seen the article.
Dupes are valuable for the casual reader, and the bulk of slashdot readers are casual readers. The editors know their audience.
Note to ACs: I usually delete AC replies without reading them. If you want to talk to me, log in.
I have resisted bandwagoning the dupe article issue but my spin is a little different...
How do the dupe articles make it through when I submit articles that get rejected - like news on non-volitile MRAM replacing volitile DRAM and how Freescale is getting closer and closer to this being reality.
That's something nerds can sink their teath into, but the editors reject it for "more of the same".
I only came here to do two things; kick some ass, and drink some beer...looks like we're almost out of beer.
Yeah, but they'll probably be aimed at nerds.
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What's amazing to me is that it took me two seconds to find the dupe in my RSS reader. If I were the editor of a site which syndicated news, I would definitely keep a long history of articles cached in my RSS reader for quick referencing. It's the best way to see if the tidbit has already been posted, and also to find related articles from the past.
It can't be slashdot. They clearly don't read the articles here. So where are they? Is it better? Is it cool?
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...or maybe not.
First rule about Slashdot Club is you do not talk about dupes in Slashdot Club.
Second rule about Slashdot Club is you DO NOT talk about dupes in Slashdot Club.
Thrid rule about Slashdot Club is someone yells Dupe!, points out a dupe, or comments on a dupe, story is over.
Forth rule, two admins to a dupe.
Fifth rule, one dupe at a time, users.
Sixth rule, no search, no google.
Seventh rule, stories get duped as long as they have to.
And the eighth and final rule, if this is your first night at Slashdot Club, you have to dupe.
They could also handle submission filtering, with the added benefit that more interesting stories would get posted more often to the front page.
Then Taco and that CowBoyNeal dude (in true CEO fashion) could give themselves 70% raises, pop open the bottle of gin and toast the wonders of globalization while actually delivering some value to their paying subscribers.
Hey, maybe they could even outsorce the site remodelling as well - PHP would be a good choice. Surely basic HTML3.2 compliance in 2005 is not much to ask.
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We wouldn't all be saying dupe if the title wasn't:
...". At that point it would seem like this is a followup and not just another indication that the editors don't even read their own site.
Creative MP3 Players Ship With Virus
Zonk in Slashdot
The last one was titled:
Creative Zens Ship with Worms
ScuttleMonkey in Slashdot
Now, what would maybe make this not a dupe, or would irritate me less, is if the new title was "Creative Announces Recall for Infected Players" (including text like "Tuesday we reported that Creative sucked, but today
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Bingo!
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Just so y'all know, it links to a porn link site.
Might have the courtesy to warn people next time, asshat. Thankfully, I took today off.
Endless arguments over trivial contradictions in books written by ignorant savages to explain thunder in the dark.
I want to know when we're going to have a topic image for Dupes. :)
I prefer a void in conversation to a vacuous one.
More delays for their new product
I'm not so pissed off at dupes, they just tell me that they don't really care, especially after being notified and after all the screaming slashdotters after every dupe. It's kind of a first sign that I should look elsewhere.
But, since the number of bogus stories, advertisements presented as stories, and link summary stories have really gone up recently, I've been looking more and more at other similar sites...
What do you guys recommend as good alternatives? Something with good/relevant or at least funny commentary, something like Penny Arcade but for all things nerdy?
Never underestimate the bandwidth of a 747 filled with CD-ROMs.
Creative MP3 Players Ship With
I guess I was right
.... == DUPE
It's a self-replicating article virus which ships with some copies of slashdot.
Although slashdot's search is not very good, there is a decent search engine called google.
I just searched for site:slashdot.org creative mp3 and the 6th hit was the duped article.
If your as lazy as Zonk and don't want to type all of those characters into a search, you can click here.
i never saw this article the first time. and something of this nature warrents being duped, if only to make sure that more people read it and be careful. this is a freaking VIRUS WARNING!
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Gah, I remember this dupe! Sheesh, I think Zonk is slacking off. :( Maybe /. should hire me! [grin]
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This post is a second-order dupe.
Seriously folks, we should be happy for the OSDN team. I mean, it takes serious guts to continually hire "special" people as editors. And perhaps, by being constantly exposed to ADD and ADHD sufferers, we can learn to understand and help these poor people. Because that has to be the only fudging explanation for this constant piss-poor stuff. Seriously, would it be so hard to set some ground rules in place?
- Thou shalt do a basic keyword search before posting an article to see if it has been done before.
- Thou shalt use a spellechecker.
- Thou shalt ensure that the writeup is not a copy/paste of the first paragraph of the article.
Would that be so fscking hard?
Heh, I just noticed the "Important Stuff" notes under the edit box here. Point #3:
"Read other people's messages before posting your own to avoid simply duplicating what has already been said."
Heh.
If I knew the wedgies I gave you back in 6th grade would have resulted in this . . . I might have taken a moments pause.
Is it just me or is this a dupe? I've got 5 mod points to spend and wouldn't mind spending them marking the story down rather than user replies ;)
;) )
Especially after a story on Creative getting a patent on MP3 devices relating to sorting tracks by artist/album/track etc got bounced with no reason.
(Yes I know grouching about story submissions is frowned upon but as that was a new story and this isn't its a valid moan
I hear Apple has a patent on shipping MP3 players with a bug and is thinking about suing Creative for licensing fees...
affects players with serial numbers between 1230528000001 and 1230533001680
Is that inclusive?
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Well, with regard to Microsoft's "Plays For Sure" logo campaign, I suppose this also includes viruses.
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, START
it's clear that OSDN doesn't give a shit about quality
Look, it's fine if you think Slashdot sucks. But find something more interesting to do than bemoan the fact.
Find a better site. (Technocrat?) Start one. Use a Bayesian Classifier from the RSS feed. Learn to speak Swahili.
But don't continue to make your life miserable.
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Yes, these dupes really are annoying.
I'm still trying to figure out what people mean by 'social skills' here.
Is a dupe with changing information. Anyone note that the whole article describes the same problem as both a virus AND a worm? Umm... according to every other anti-virus company, a worm is not a virus, just like a trojan horse is not a worm.
People without clear concept on the differences between the malicious programs out there should not even be allowed to write these kinds of stories.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
...God kills a kitten.
Please, think of the kittens.
A far superior site is Digg.com. Users decide what gets posted, and just a scan of today's front page reminds me of the old Slashdot frontpage of yesteryear.
There's even an interview with one of the Mythbusters! Cool.
"Sufferin' succotash."
...as I commented the last time this was posted (full translation here).
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Idiots.
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Really encourages improvement.
Would Zonk stop posting dupes if they didn't get pointed out to him? Would he be getting hatemail if he were, y'know, doing his fucking job? I think not.
Like David Brin says---CITOKATE! Criticism is the only known antidote to error. Criticize away, fellow Slashdotters.
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