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Wi-Max Deployed in Katrina Disaster Area

Spy Handler writes "In the aftermath of hurricane Katrina's destruction of telecom infrastructure in New Orleans, officials are turning to wireless broadband for use by government workers. Intel, a key backer of WiMax, and Cisco are donating wireless equipment to aid disaster workers. This could be a good opportunity to replace an antiquated system of copper wires with brand-new technology." From the article: "Shakouri and other industry experts contend that the devastation of Hurricane Katrina offers a chance to build the sort of modern network that phone and cable companies have promised for years. Such a network -- whether wireless or fiber-optic -- could deliver movies or medical records at speeds hundreds of times faster than current Internet connections. Telecom executives and analysts, though, aren't so sure it's the right time or place."

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  1. Truth is by PunkOfLinux · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They aren't 'donating' per se -- yes, they're giving it away at no cost, but it's VERY good publicity for them.

    Just think how good it sounds to have two tech companies donating tech to relief efforts. NOw, if only FEMA would get with the times and realize that not everyone uses windows/IE...

    1. Re:Truth is by SlamMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "They aren't 'donating' per se -- yes, they're giving it away at no cost, but it's VERY good publicity for them."

      So, they're donating it.

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    2. Re:Truth is by dreamchaser · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So it isn't a donation if it gives someone good press? Sorry but that is BS. A donation is a donation, whether it provides good PR or not.

  2. Surely anything helps? by freetipe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It may not be exactly "the right time and place", but as long as it isn't diverting skills and resources away from more critical, lifesaving activities, surely it can't hurt to have such things available?

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  3. *Waits* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    *Waits for FEMA to reject this assistance for some BS reason as well.*

    1. Re:*Waits* by Sheetrock · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Well, without defending them too much, it is important to keep in mind that any time you're dealing with a large amount of aid you're also dealing with infrastructure (how and when do the items arrive, where do you store them, how do you prioritize the distribution of funds, who installs and maintains donated technology, is it something that integrates into volunteer efforts without too much training or maintainance overhead to be useful, can the volunteer coordinators fit another thing into the schedule, are there strings attached to the gift, etc.)

      Point being, if the help can't be deployed in a way that makes progress, it's better to turn it away than have it sit on the shelf useless or, worse, have it detract from other aid efforts that are more productive.

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    2. Re:*Waits* by Ravatar · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Let's not forget Castro's pledge of 1000+ doctors, they haven't even replied to him yet.

    3. Re:*Waits* by mspohr · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Just a few facts to intrude on your rant.

      Cuba has a surplus of doctors. In spite of (or because of) a "one party" system, one of the things that Cuba does well is provide good health care for its people. Cuba regularly sends hundreds of doctors abroad (and yes, they speak english). I have encountered them in South Africa and countries in South America.

      Cuba has basic health indicators that are as good as or better than the USA. This includes life expectancy, immunization (better than USA), infant mortality rate (better than USA), maternal mortality rate (better than USA).

      This is a genuine offer of support from Cuba but we know the US will reject it for political reasons.

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  4. Solar flares. by jimmypw · · Score: 3, Funny

    Its a good thing there arent solar flares disrupting communications at the moment. Oh wait there are.

    My sympathy goes out to the victims.

  5. not the right time or place?? by HyperHyper · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >>"Telecom executives and analysts, though, aren't so sure it's the right time or place."

    Why is it because of the poverty level and they won't have enough clientele? Or because they will lose all the equipment once the next hurricane hits (man vs nature - my bet is on nature but that's another discussion)

    Personally, I've heard New Orleans is a big convention city and wouldn't that be a good reason to "hook them up" with this technology.

    If the technology is as a good as they are touting, it will draw more people to the area for meetings/conventions would it not?

  6. Big Fan by Megamote · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "The company considered installing wireless broadband in rebuilding, Smith said, but it found that it could recover most of its fiber network. The technologies will be used eventually. "I'm a big fan of WiMax," he said."

    These products operate in the unlicensed 2.4GHz ISM band, or the licensed 2.3 GHz WCS, 2.5/2.6 GHz ITFS/MMDS, and 3.4/3.5 GHz WLL bands. Guess who owns the licensed spectrum - that's right, Bell South....big fan indeed.

  7. Re:Nice move by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Informative

    Its times like this that the big firms should be congradulated. I dont see microsoft doing things like this *whistles*

    OK, so Bill Gates isn't actually Microsoft, per se - but he's personally holding a lot of the stock and cash that has resulted from their growth. I'm sure it pains you to know that he's donated, personally, a fortune to relief and charities. Just one donation (the largest in history) was $5 Billion towards malaria relieft and innoculation of children. The Gates foundation has already donated $1.5 million towards hurricane relief this week (mostly through the red cross).

    As for Microsoft itself, you might want to at least spend a couple of moments reading before you assume they're doing nothing. They have already lined up $9 Million in cash and donations in IT systems to help the local governments impacted by the storm. They're matching their employees' donations - and those people have collectively put up over a million as well. They've deployed three satellite communications busses in Baton Rouge and Mississippi, and are working directly with Intel and Cisco on support of Red Cross operations.

    There are two predictable things, here. One - that since MS routinely does these things, they are doing it now, too - whether or not the press mentions it. And two - that it would of course never get a posting on slashdot, just on principle.

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  8. About Time... by Fungus+King · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Someone I speak to occasionally works in the communications industry, and after Katrina happened he started to chase up his superiors to see what can be done to deploy wireless communications in the disaster area - he made numerous calls to government officials to be told time after time that he was speaking to the *wrong* person - all the while the government were complaining "if only we had communications" - needless to say he's not been in a very good mood lately...

    Better late than never I suppose, but this could have been so much more useful had it been set up earlier...

  9. First suggested right here on Slashdot by blastard · · Score: 4, Informative
    Glad to see they are considering that.

    Here's the "first post" on it right here in slashdot. Of course many simply flamed.

    "Now would be a fantastic opportunity to install a citywide Wi-Fi network. If the ILEC was ever going to do it and get good press for it, now is the time. Could Intel use another test bed for Wi-Max?"

  10. Re:So, when is a good time? by gui_tarzan2000 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    True story - we built a new school building to replace old portables and called Verizon to move the cable over to the new building. It took three "technicians" FOUR hours to pull a 25 pair cable through a 2" conduit 50' and terminate both ends. Then they had the balls to charge us $1400!!!!!

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  11. Re:Wi-Max Infrastructure by FidelCatsro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Very much so , A hurricane could literally rip up the existing infrastructure causing immeasurable damage over a wide area .(think tens of thousands of broken lines and switch boxes)
    Even if it destroys every Wi-Max antenna in the area it would only take a matter of hours to replace them ,plus it would be a hell of a lot cheaper .(think the man-hours , the cost of the street and cable repairs etc. Vs. the cost of a few servers and a few antennas )

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  12. There's always a silver lining..... by smchris · · Score: 3, Insightful


    I guess.

    Yes, I suppose when a major U.S. city is destroyed, that is an excellent time to follow Africa's paradoxically late "lead" and just pass over copper and even fiber in some cases.

    1. Re:There's always a silver lining..... by maelstrom · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So far as I can tell, most of the copper and other wiring underground was built to be flooded and probably doesn't require huge repair.

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  13. Re:wimax? by dbIII · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I think fresh water, food and a place to sleep are way more important.
    That is a very simplistic way of looking at things and not necessarily correct. Truckloads of ice and fresh water did not get to the right places in recent days due to a lack of communication. Communications infrastructure, electricity and even computers make it a lot easier to organise fresh water, food and a place to sleep.

    We get this sort of simplistic attitude exhibited whenever people mention sending any sort of gadget developed after WWII to impoverished nations, it shouldn't apply there and it shouldn't apply to the southern US - technology that does not appear to be instantly lifesaving does help people live better lives and does save lives.

  14. Re:wimax? by timeOday · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I think fresh water, food and a place to sleep are way more important. You'd better donate something more usefull
    Another one of these comments.

    Look, officials have been complaining since day 1 that a big part of the problem is communications:

    As powerful winds uprooted trees, power lines snapped and flood waters poured into homes and businesses, members of the New Orleans Police Department and other emergency responders had little more to communicate with than hand-held radios and cell phones. And communication with outside agencies, officials say, was near impossible.
    ... The radio system "was the only thing working during the storm," Schneider said. But it didn't allow contact with local agencies, he said. The National Guard couldn't get in touch with New Orleans Police Department officers working the city streets.
    The military has been aware of this issue for *decades*, that's why they invented the Internet, which allows all kinds of information to be exchanged using a standard set of protocols. That is the key to allowing different parties, that don't usually communicate, to rapidly and dynamically set up new data exchange pathways during an emergency.

    Now can I rant for a minute? Every time slashdot reports a communications network is to be set up in a poor country or emergency, somebody complains that communications are superflous in such circumstances. That's insane! Ask yourself - why are cops, soldiers, and emergency responders such heavy users of communications technology? Don't they have better things to do than sit around chatting?

  15. Wifi over copper? by PhYrE2k2 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This could be a good opportunity to replace an antiquated system of copper wires with brand-new technology.


    Well it is a good situation to update the infrastructure (although being one of the poorer areas of the US, I'd doubt they'd go too far due to a lack of major corporate backing). On that note, why would they avoid good old copper or other great technologies? The potential of copper (10-gigabit is the latest 'consumer' technology) is faster, more reliable, and more secure than any WiFi they can throw at it.

    C'mon- WiFi is fun and all to save you running wires to your basement, or giving you e-mail while you check your coffee, but lets be realistic. It's a security issue. It's a reliability issue (interference, signal issues in certain areas, 'jamming'). And the spectrum only has so much room in it. Just run a few wires and call it a day.

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  16. Re:Wi-Max Infrastructure by donscarletti · · Score: 3, Informative

    When a tropical cyclone (like a hurricane but spins clockwise) hit and distroyed Darwin, NT on Christmas day 1974, all of the copper was ripped up, but the microwave telephone link remained operational. I'm not sure if this is really the same thing, since those microwave stations are a hell of a lot bigger than anything to do with wimax, but wireless does tend to survive huge natural disasters fairly well.

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  17. In other News... by 9mm+Censor · · Score: 3, Funny

    Expensive WiMax equipment was stolen from the near lawless city of New Orleans.