Skype With Your Cell Phone

Praxiteles writes "Seen on Gizmodo, apparently a USB device called 'imFONE' allows you to use your existing cellphone as a VoIP phone From the article:"You simply plug this thing into your PC's USB port, pair it via Bluetooth to your phone, and you're ready to go...It currently works with imtel and Skype..." No extra contact management and caller ID works properly."

Comments

Stupid

[mikejz84]

So basically it turns a Cell Phone into a wireless handset for your computer. It combinds the voice quality of VoIP with the speaker and microphone of a cell phone and the great range of bluetooth--Great thinking buddy! This is not news, just another stupid crap product that will never go anywhere.

Re:Stupid

[cpu_fusion]

Except for the fact that you can make calls between cell phones for free on most vendors plans. Do the math.

Re:Stupid

[Anonymous Coward]

So True....I'm waiting for the day a true VoIP cell phone comes out. (Yeah, wishfull thinking, I know.)

Re:Stupid

[}InFuZeD{]

If you look at the picture you'll realize that there is *some* usefulness in this. Take a laptop, pick up a wifi spot, and you can use your cellphone to make free long distance/roaming calls.

Re:Stupid

[mikejz84]

Of I take my Wifi PocketPC with Skype and do the exact same thing. (Or better yet wait for the Cellphone/PPC hybrids to come out and load Skype on them)

Re:Stupid

[cpu_fusion]

I will add that I don't see that listed as a supported feature of this particular product, but the scheme works something like this:

You buy two phones on a plan that allows unlimited in-network calls. You leave one phone at home hooked up via bluetooth to software that connects that cell phone to VOIP. Then you go out with the other cell phone and ... (3) profit.

I think I'm seeing the light of the other posts though, and I definately don't see this listed as a feature of this particular package...

Re:Stupid

[PornMaster]

Except you're likely to get considerably better audio quality with your laptop and a headset. Hell, if you could connect the cell phone via USB cable directly to the laptop at least you wouldn't have to kill your cell phone battery.

Re:Stupid

[CDMA_Demo]

Soon to be sued and outlawed!!!

Re:Stupid

[}InFuZeD{]

Not everyone has a WiFi Pocket PC device. Lots of people have Bluetooth-enabled cell phones.

I don't know how much this thing is going to cost, but I imagine that it's reasonable ($30 or so) then it's less than the price of most bluetooth headsets and obviously lower than the price of a PocketPC (I'm not saying you won't get more value in a PocketPC, but that has nothing to do with this niche market).

The purpose of this device is taking what you already have (or the lack of what you have) and making it more useful.

Re:Stupid

[mikejz84]

So for portable communications I need the following 1) A Wifi Laptop 2) This USB adapter thingy 3) A bluetooth phone Total cost: Over $1,000 Making a call 1) Find a hot spot 2) Sit down, boot up laptop 3) connect to Skype 4) go though laptop case, find bluetooth adapter 5) attach to laptop, load up whatever software you need 6) Take out your cell phone, go to a few menus to connect to your computer 7) Make your call Point: Sometimes i pays not to be so cheap and just get a better cell phone plain or learn how to talk and get to the point.

Re:Stupid

[dj245]

Exactly my thoughts. You would be much better off with a plain old USB phone-like SIP audio device, or a USB to RJ-45 audio device adapter. Then you could hook unplug your existing phone cabling from the phone network and plug your house phone cabling in, making all of your phones hooked up to the computer.

Just make sure you buy a current model so the software is current. Mine was discontinued so the software is really old and the phone buttons don't work (have to use the skype dialer directly).

Re:Stupid

[Kadin2048]

I agree. This is a product I've been waiting for awhile now.

I don't have landline service. At all -- no local dialtone, nothing. However I do have a cell phone. And broadband, via cable. Of course because I'm cheap I have the minimal service plan on the phone, which is only a few hundred free minutes per month.

So anything that would let me make calls via Skype or VoIP from home without using up my cell minutes is great news to me. Especially if I know it's going to be a long call (tech support, a conference call meeting, calling the family), I could use SkypeOut and save myself the minutes for when I'm actually out of the house and need the cell minutes.

Plus, this allows me to use the contacts already stored in my cellphone, which is a big plus since I have several hundred stored in there.

I can also see this being a boon for people who do a lot of international calling, since Skype is significantly cheaper than even the best international plan I've ever seen.

Overall I think this is a neat gadget, although perhaps one with a very niche market.

Re:Stupid

[Tony Hoyle]

So for only twice the monthly cost of a standard phone you too can make calls at slightly lower than normal landline rates!

You'd have to use the phone a hell of a lot before 'profit' would be in the equation.

Re:Stupid

[SoloFlyer2]

Yeah a true VoIP phone, which uses a real VoIP protocol ie not skype!

Re:Stupid

[PhoenixFlare]

If you look at the picture you'll realize that there is *some* usefulness in this. Take a laptop, pick up a wifi spot, and you can use your cellphone to make free long distance/roaming calls.

Great! Well, except for the fact that my phone plan already has free long distance without using a laptop, wifi, or any other complicated scheme.

Re:Stupid

[CProgrammer98]

ummmm why not just get a headset for ur pc and use that with skype??? MUCH better quality, and yeah ok you have to be sat at the pc...

Re:Stupid

[cpu_fusion]

You might be surprised to discover that most cell phone plans allow you to add an additional cell phone for around 5 bucks.

So you could get the lowest minute rate plan, say $60 a month, add a phone for $5, and have unlimited VOIP calling.

I'm not saying that is ethical, just possible. And that you're incorrect in equating that cost to be twice the normal cost.

Re:Stupid

[spagetti_code]

Even if the quality is not the best, those of us who pay up to several dollars a minute for cellphone use will find it pretty useful.

I am roaming with GSM - and am thinking of direct crediting my pay straight to vodaphone to save on bank charges. Its just ridiculous - every call (even local to where I am) is charged as a toll call.

I can only imagine mikejz84 is an American who does not travel overseas very much. Local calls in the US are very cheap, wireless plans often build in hundreds (or thousands) of minutes per month. Once you leave Oz, its not such a pretty story.

Re:Stupid

[Anthonares]

Actually, this little device could serve a purpose for me:
1) I live in an apartment small enough for the bluetooth signal to propogate easily throughout
2) I have no home telephone
3) I have occasional desire to speak at length with friends and family, but am somewhat limited by the expense of high-minute cell plans
4) Skype offers a call-forwarding plan that routes calls to other phones if unanswered on your computer

The net result is, for a small fee, I could have a "home" telephone number that anyone could call, and if I am within range of the bluetooth, it would ring my cellphone that way. But, if I'm not there, the call would be forwarded to my cellphone. Thus, with a single number, and a single phone, I would be reachable easily and probably much more cheaply than with a cellphone alone.

Re:Stupid

[lakeland]

there is one out already! Good specs, nice looking. Pretty much everything you want in a cell-phone.

NEC makes it, the N91 or something, I forget the model number.

It won't be sold outside Japan.

Re:Stupid

[Macka]

So basically it turns a Cell Phone into a wireless handset for your computer

Nope, it does more than that. To quote from the article (that you obviously didn't read)...

The best part is that even if you are using the Skype service to make an international call, it is your cell phone number that will be displayed to the caller ID of the other party

Re:Stupid

[whimmel]

Why pay for cell minutes at all if you're not going to "use them up"?

By the time you pay for Skype plus all this extra equipment, wouldn't it be cheaper to just bump your celly plan up a notch?

Re:Stupid

[Anonymous Coward]

wouldn't it be cheaper to just bump your celly plan up a notch?

for the first month, yes.

Re:Stupid

[timmyf2371]

Or, if like I was this summer, you're on vacation and staying in a hotel with either wifi or ethernet ports, rather than use the hotel's phone system or pay International Roaming charges to phone home - I can use my cellphone as a handset to talk via the Skype system rather than be limited with a fixed wired headset.

Re:Stupid

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes, but if you already have the cellphone and the laptop and the broadband and you live in a foreign country and make international skype calls frequently (I fit all of these criteria myself), this is a pretty cool thing.

I have been debating whether ot not to switch from skype to vonage or something similar for a while. The lack of a cordless phone is difficult to take, especially when you want to chat away from the computer. This product could provide the wireless capability I want. I am a US student studying abroad. We are exactly the niche that this product would fill. Is this niche large enough to make a living? Who knows? But there's more of us (people that meet those criteria above) that would think this is neat than you realize...

Re:Stupid

[Tony Hoyle]

Maybe where you are... darned lucky.

I've been unable to find *any* that allow this around here.. and only one that provides free mobile->mobile (and they cut off after 15 minutes).

And the name of this website bringing us this...

[Limecron]

PhoneyWorld. ::sigh::

why use a cell phone?

[almost-empty]

but why use your cellphone as a voip phone? does it work for dialing also, or just speaker/headphone? in my opinion I'd rather use a usb headset than my cellphone for VoIP or Skype, but thats just me.

Re:why use a cell phone?

[Anonymous Coward]

Perhaps for the convenience of not having yet another handset?

Re:why use a cell phone?

[almost-empty]

yes, perhaps. but why not just use a bluetooth headset if you don't want another handset?

Re:why use a cell phone?

[bergeron76]

And you don't have to use minutes that way, if you use a bluetooth headset.

BT headset + BT dongle/laptop = skype fun.

Re:why use a cell phone?

[LQ]

why use your cellphone as a voip phone? does it work for dialing also, or just speaker/headphone?
It allows you to use your phone's phonebook. That's a real gain. And if you're on the road, why carry both a headset and a phone?

Re:why use a cell phone?

[netnuevo]

I just realized something- I already have an aircard (PC Card) on my laptop with unlimited data access for 79.99 a month. It comes with a phone number, and I have a Bluetook headset. Maybe I could use Skype for unlimited flat-fee phone calling, no cell phone required! Of course, I've never used Skype and hence don't know what its limitations are, but it should work in theory!

This is pointless...

[jmcmunn]

Why would I want to use my cell phone minutes for this, when I (and most people with cell phones) have free long distance included in their cell plans already?

I guess if Voip works international you are getting some benefit, but other than that most of us might just as well get a hands free headset for the cell phone and call it good.

Re:This is pointless...

[}InFuZeD{]

You aren't using your cell phone minutes. You're connecting via BlueTooth to your computer/laptop and using it's WiFi connection to place calls.

Re:This is pointless...

[Anonymous Coward]

Is it [or will it be] possible for the cellphone companies to charge minutes for using your cellphone on a different network? After all, the contract for my phone is through my cellphone company.

Re:This is pointless...

[Anonymous Coward]

You're not connecting to a cell network, so I can't imagine so. Of course, if this becomes commonplace, expect carriers to begin taking steps to prevent such use (especially in the US, where phones are routinely tied to a specific network).

Re:This is pointless...

[Chess_the_cat]

But why bother? Doesn't your laptop already have speakers and a mic? It's a lot of trouble to use what is most likely an uncomfortable handset that requires the use of your hands.

Re:This is pointless...

[Otterley]

Laptops generally don't have built-in echo cancellation.

Re:This is pointless...

[gdatuk]

i already have a wireless headset with mic...why would i waste my mobile batter on this?

Looks like a Bluetooth adapter...

[frostman]

Assuming this actually works (and actually exists), it looks suspiciously like... a Bluetooth Adapter! And it looks a lot like you're just using the phone as a headphone/mic combo, and the central contact list just means you have to use your PC, not your phone, to dial.

If your computer has built-in Bluetooth, is there any software out there to get Skype talking to your handset? Isn't that something Skype is likely to offer?

Re:Looks like a Bluetooth adapter...

[JourneyExpertApe]

The only advantage I see to this is that it doesn't look like you're talking to your computer.

Re:Looks like a Bluetooth adapter...

[pearljam145]

I use a bluetooth headset with my powerbook all the time when I am using Skype. Mac OS X connects to the headset without an issue and the quality is excellent.

Correct me if I'm wrong..

[dr.matrix]

..but isn't this just a Bluetooth dongle with some additional software? This piece of Linux software
http://www.soft.uni-linz.ac.at/_wiki/tiki-index.ph p?page=ProjectBluezHandsfree
seems to do basically the same..

Re:Correct me if I'm wrong..

[squiggleslash]

The way most people are interpreting this, it's the opposite - the link you point to has the computer as the "bluetooth headset" and the handset as the device to connect to the network. However, what the write-up appears to be suggesting is that this is the handset as the headset and the computer as the connection to the network.

Now, quite honestly, I don't see how it can work. To the best of my knowledge, cellphone handsets cannot act as external headsets for other devices, even with bluetooth. At least, they don't genericly (there are cellphones out there that support something called UMA, GSM over IP over Bluetooth or 802.11, but that's still nothing like what's being described here.)

Does anyone out there who knows bluetooth and knows what cellphones "have to" implement explain how this works, if indeed, it really does? The entire thing looks like a warped misunderstanding. Actually, it looks like it's made up.

Re:Correct me if I'm wrong..

[Spruitje]

Why use bluetooth?
In Europe siemens and some other companies sell a DECT adapter so you can use your DECT phone to call with skype.
This is already 2 years on the market.
Second, using a GSM phone with bluetooth as a mobile handset in combination with your computer isn't new either.
About two or three years ago locustworld had an option to connect your GSM phone to their meshap box.

works on which phones again?

[swatthatfly]

The IM Fone is compatible with two services at this point of time, imtel and Skype. The IM fone allows you to use your cell phone and its contacts as usual, the difference being that you are not actually using the cell phone service network but rather the internet to make and recieve these calls. The best part is that even if you are using the Skype service to make an international call, it is your cell phone number that will be displayed to the caller ID of the other party. ...unfortunately it works only with selected cell phones.

I guess it will work well if you have to make international phone calls from your home location, but to travel with it you still need roaming access. And since the article doesn't specifies which phones/providers are compatible, I will guess that it's only a handfull, most likely US phone companies.

Skype is "good"?

[Saeed al-Sahaf]

So, right now, Skype is "good". Will is still be "good" whaen AOL buys 'em out?

Re:Skype is "good"?

[almost-empty]

wait... isn't ebay the one that is looking at buying them?

Re:Skype is "good"?

[Saeed al-Sahaf]

Several interested parties. eBay, too. Are they any better?

Re:Skype is "good"?

[almost-empty]

not at all, I'd rather they not be bought by any major corporation.

Re:Skype is "good"?

[Anonymous Coward]

Naturally you cunts would mod something negative to your belovid Skype "offtopic" even though it is spot on topic! Slashdrones!

Too much mix-match

[TarryTops]

IT market is dashing towards the "wall of death" with all that mix match(and mis match). People ought to come to their senses and develop products which are needed and not necessasily think that they ought to evolve a product just becasue some wise guys are sitting and doing nothing back in the labs.

samsung i730 and skype for pocket pc

[Anonymous Coward]

I have a samsung i730 smartphone with Verizon's EVDO broadband internet access on it. Recently installed the pocket pc version of skype on it and now I can call the whole world for almost free of charge. Works fabulous and it has already cut down my phone bills by a good measure.

Or...

[hkb]

Uhm. Or just use Skype on a Windows Mobile-based cellphone with built-in/sdio wi-fi. It works greats and I find it more stable than Symbian phones.

Not using the cellular connection

[genericacct]

No, you don't need roaming on the cellphone. As people have said above, it just uses your cellphone as the handset, and you're still making the call through Skype. You're right that it doesn't say which phones are compatible, though, and I'd really like to know that.

I actually think it's a good idea. Using headsets is nice for driving or at home, but in public it's kinda weird. I'd rather talk on my phone than to a bluetooth headset, if I'm in an airport or coffee shop.

So why use your phone as a headset?

[spo0ner]

If this requires a bluetooth enabled phone then you would (or should) already have a bluetooth enabled headset. If I have a headset that does not require me to be connected to my phone (see: tethered cord) then why not just use a bluetooth dongle and my headset for my PC anyways?

Some may say that the battery is longer on your phone than a headset but my Jabra has some pretty good talk time http://www.jabra.com/JabraCMS/NA/EN/MainMenu/Produ cts/WirelessHeadsets/JabraBT250v/JabraBT250v

Now what would be nice is to be able to place bluetooth access points throughout the house so you don't have to worry about the 30ft (not counting dense walls) limitation.

Nitch product with no nitch market.

Why do I need this gizmo?

[Zarhan]

I mean, if I have bluetooth at my laptop, I can connect to my cellphone directly anyway, right? Why would there be a need for some separate gizmo? Does it do something beyond a simple USB BT-dongle?

What about the reverse?

[ASaidi]

I think it would be much more useful to be able to use your cellphone to make outbound phone calls. Coupled with a POTS VOIP gateway you could have normal phones in your house that used your cellphone to dial out when you were there, and when you wern't you could take your cellphone with you.

Bluetooth Cordless Telephony Profile, at last ?

[acaspis]

The IM fone allows you to use your cell phone and its contacts as usual

If this is true, then Bluetooth CTP (Cordless Telephony Profile) must be involved. Last time I checked, no manufacturer was implementing CTP in their mobile phones, and you needed an expensive smartphone and an additional Symbian application to pull this off. Of course telcos prefer to sell their proprietary versions at a premium (e.g. BT Bluephone).

Either that, or it's a hack involving downloading the contacts to the PC over Bluetooth, or maybe even a Java applet.

In any case the hardware is probably just a regular Bluetooth dongle, and you can do it yourself as long as you have a suitable phone.

article must be incorrect...

[YesIAmAScript]

It will likely let you use your laptop as a headset/speaker for your phone, but not use your phone as a headset/speaker for your laptop.

I say this because although virtually all Bluetooth phones will USE a Bluetooth headset, virtually none of them (none I've seen) will BE a Bluetooth headset. There's just not way to get most phones to pretend to be on a call (turn on the speaker and mic) and send the data elsewhere to be transported.

As to using your computer as a handsfree system for yor phone, that's been possible for some time already. The question is, why would you do it?

Re:article must be incorrect...

[elmo13]

At least on Symbian phones (eg my Nokia 7610), u can conenct 2 a PC + make it look like a COM port connection. You could send any data through this. I dont know how fast it would be for audio though.

I'm waiting for the Nokia N91 with built in wifi. Mmmmm

The important question is

[Geshem]

Can I also use my phone in order to send text messages via the internet?

Re:The important question is

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah! Because the keypad on a phone is so much better than a real keyboard.

Using this to make free calls.

[Kjellander]

A colleage and I were discussing this and wondering if you could use this to place free calls from anywhere in your respective country. Imagine having 2 cell phones, both with an account that has free calls between accounts of the same kind, for instance 'Comviq Kompis' here in Sweden.

Then make a setup like this:

Your cell -> free call -> Phone at home -> Computer with Skype

If it is possible to use this device as a bridge you can make free calls to anyone on Skype from anywhere in your country. You could even get your phone at home to phone you up with Skype calls.

3. ---
4. Profit

Re:Using this to make free calls.

[Tony Hoyle]

You'd probably be better off connecting the phone to an asterisk server... you could then route the calls over the cheapest providers depending on the destination - many landline providers have free international and national diallng now & skype can't match that.

Re:Using this to make free calls.

[pmsr]

I read a couple weeks ago in Metro Göteborg that a pair of natives wrote a program to do just that, using the cable that connects to the mobile phone. Of course, in the best Metro tradition of "journalism", there we no pointers, no names, not anything that a person could use to research further. Pity since i am interested in the exact same thing.

/Pedro

Who'da thunk it?

[Cptn_Zippy]

Using a phone to make PHONE calls. I just thought they were for anoying drivers!

this does nothing

[akhomerun]

if you need to be 10 feet from your computer, why bother?

if wimax takes off, a phone with support for that would be very useful. i really don't know much about wimax besides what it generally is, but even if whoever sets it up charges money for it, if you could use a city-wide internet access for all your (free) phone calls, internet browsing, etc., then, well, that'd be pretty awesome.

Re:this does nothing

[Tony Hoyle]

The two-phone idea sounds servicable, provided you can find a provider that does cheap internal phone calls (I could only find one in this country, and they have a 15 minute cutoff so not much use).

OTOH you could do the same with 3G mobile data & a VOIP client on the phone, if you could get a plan that allowed a reasonable amount... again, I couldn't find any that are practical (average cost is ~1000* the cost of ADSL per volume) but I'm sure it'll happen one day.

why can't OS X appear as a headset?

[SuperBanana]

And it looks a lot like you're just using the phone as a headphone/mic combo

Ding! And something I've ALWAYS wondered...why can't you pair a cell phone in MacOS X to audio in+out? I'm guessing it would freak out the telco's, and thus the cell phone makers won't allow it in firmware...but it seems like a very easy hack to make the Mac appear to be a headset to the phone.

Re:why can't OS X appear as a headset?

[silas_moeckel]

It's technicaly capable of happening it's allready happening under linux particularly for use with asterix, linux appears as a headset picks up the phone and dials etc. It's a nice hack for people that just want a cell phone but want / need a pots line.

Skype client for Symbian (et al.) in the works

[Stack_13]

There should be a native Skype client for the Linux, Symbian and Windows Mobile based smartphones before the end of 2005, since Skype co-founder and CEO Niklas Zennstrom made an announcement in the Voice On the Net (VON) conference held in April 2005 in Toronto.

Furthermore, Skype uses technology from the Global IP Sound, which announced availability of their VoiceEngine Mobile platform for the Symbian.

So it should be here Soon(TM)

Re:Skype client for Symbian (et al.) in the works

[Tony Hoyle]

That's interesting.. google talk is based on Global IP Sound too...

Re:Skype client for Symbian (et al.) in the works

[pmsr]

So is the Voipbuster client and plenty of others. Global IP Sound will be the winner of the Voip wars, whatever happens in the end.

/Pedro

skype in/out sucks

[pair-a-noyd]

I tried to get some numbers in cities where I have friends and family.. Nope.. There was ONE number available in one city I check and that number, while in the right area code was of a prefix that was long distance. Same thing with other cities I tried.

I'm not impressed with the Skype landline deals at all.
But as far as PC to PC, it's great. But not all my friends and family have PC's...

Keep trying Skype...

Kind of reminds me of WiSIP phone

[MCRocker]

Pulver Innovations had a WiSIP phone that would connect over your LAN to act as a standard SIP phone, which you could use, for example, with Free World Dialup or asterisk@home. Unfortunately, as one article points out, most WiFi hot spots don't co-operate and the the phone connect, so it has some major limitations. Even Pulver doesn't push it anymore... I had a tough time finding a link to it on any of their sites.

They also had a gadget that you could plug a cell phone into that would allow you to preferentially use the cell phone's free minutes for long distance calls from your VOIP system. Since most cell phones come with a huge number of free long distance minutes, it might be worth the lower quality to some, but I can't even find a link to it any more :(

Nokia bullshit

[t_allardyce]

This should be pretty simple: any bluetooth phone and any bluetooth computer can connect and you can use the phone as an audio device for the computer or the computer as an audio device for the phone, you should even be able to stream the phones camera wirelessly to your computer and have net access on your phone for web-browsing/email around the house.

Unfortunately... in reality this doesn't work as I have spent the whole day finding out. If you have a reasonably new Nokia phone you are shit out of luck because they basically removed any kind of useful functionality in terms of bluetooth. If someone has managed to write the required software etc then that's amazing! Bluetooth should be so easy and yet its such a pathetic joke.

Re:Nokia bullshit

[elmo13]

I've got a bluetooth video thing working on my Nokia 7610 to my PC. It was a bit slow though.

Read http://gagravarr.org/series-60/#bt-ip>, http://www.russellbeattie.com/notebook/1001649.htm l> and http://www.itfreaks.com/forum/guide-bluetooth-inte rnet-s60-mobile-phone-3444.html>

I also managed 2 get the computer 2 b a wireless headset 4 my phone, tho i didnt realise at the time when some1 called me + i had no mic...

Re:Nokia bullshit

[t_allardyce]

6630 and many newer phones are screwed, apparently they just ripped out all the useful software. Bluetooth should be easy - if i want to route winamps audio to my phone and then play it around the house wirelessly i should be able to do that in 5 seconds, bluetooth implementation is appauling.

Mod parent up! Unanswered questions...

[Myself]

Because if your computer can send arbitrary audio out your cellphone's speaker, things just got a lot more interesting.

Also from the "bluetooth pairings you wish you could do" department, why can't a pair of earpieces act as walkie-talkies?

For that matter, if a building was blanketed with Bluetooth accesspoints, could this be used to route local voice traffic over an in-building PBX, while letting cellphones behave normally when they were away? I got into just such a discussion last week, but the bluetooth documentation I read led me to believe that phones can't act as generic audio I/O for other devices.

Re:Mod parent up! Unanswered questions...

[lakeland]

Given the bandwidth and reliability of bluetooth, why not instead blanket the building with wifi accesspoints and use them to route local voice traffic? It is a) easier, b) cheaper and c) more reliable.

Every bluetooth device I have (dynalink adaptor, linksys adaptor, treo, sony phone, apple keyboard, microsoft mouse, headset) has stuffed up on numerous occasions. The computer wakes from sleep, and the keyboard cannot be reconnected; the bluetooth settings stuff up, and you have to use the mouse to fix them; the 100m range turns out to be less than 10m at times; every second sync on my treo results in 'port in use'; and the headset is fairly reliable, but not 100%.

Overall, bluetooth looks to me like a protocol that just isn't working yet. Maybe the new bluetooth 2.0 will be better, or maybe I'll have to wait for wifi-LP (I just made that up). Certainly, I wouldn't want to base a company's telephone infrastructure on it.

Re:Mod parent up! Unanswered questions...

[ceejayoz]

Woah woah woah, 100 meter range?

Every Bluetooth device I've purchased states a range of 30 feet, or about 10 meters. Where'd you hear 100 meters?

Re:Mod parent up! Unanswered questions...

[lakeland]

They're available, just look for 'class 1' radio devices instead of 'class 2'. This is the one I got: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82 E16833124143

I want Skype ATA.

[Gadzinka]

I mean, that's all nice and good, but all those "normal telephone adapters" seem to require me to have my computer on all the time. And running Windows, while we're at that.

I would pay up to $100 for an ATA that would let me use my DECT/GAP cordless phone with Skype AND SIP at the same time. Maybe $20 more, if it was DECT/GAP station by itself. I will not pay double that for stupid usb-to-pstn or usb-to-dect adapter, that's useless w/o dedicated computer. I guess that's the real problem with closed, proprietary protocols.

Same goes for the software in the article. I can get the same or better functionality using bluetooth headset with bluetooth-audio software on the computer.

Robert

For Vonage

[Doc Ruby]

I wish that system worked with Vonage. They've got much more reliable/hifi VoIP calling for much less money. They've promised radiophones, but haven't delivered yet.

Re:For Vonage

[SnapperHead]

Vonage is trash ... I had 2 friends that each had it for less then 1 month.

Cellphones have better sound quailty and with the proper plan are still cheaper then a land line.

You get what you pay for if you go VoIP.

Re:For Vonage

[Doc Ruby]

I don't know about your friends, but I've had Vonage for about 2 years, and it's perfectly adequate. I have no sound quality problems, though I've had voicemail problems (mostly "message waiting" failures) and a few other glitches. But I use the $25 unlimited US/Canada calling, including calls when I've thrown my ATA in my suitcase and travelling away from my home, even in other countries.

You're kind of missing the point of this device: it doesn't replace a cellphone, it relies on a cellphone. With this device you can use your cellphone with a landline when the landline is cheaper, which it usually is, like for thousands of minutes a month in your home/office. With all your contacts dialled from the same handy device. Hooking it to Skype or Vonage rather than a circuit (PSTN) landline just makes it cheaper. And Vonage is more reliable/hifi than Skype. Why not cut your cellphone bill, and untether your landline (either PSTN or VoIP), with a device like this?

Re:For Vonage

[Luke-Jr]

Sure, Vonage is crap, but not because of quality... It's crap because it doesn't play nice with other VoIP users, forces people to buy locked ATAs, and is expensive.

Better to do Skype from my land line...?

[wealthychef]

Anybody know if I can Skype from my land line to get long distance with my local-only land line service? That would be GREAT. There is no benefit to me to use my cell phone with Skype, as many have said, it looks like a glorified bluetooth mic adapter to me.

WiFi phone is a better solution

[Anonymous Coward]

Rather than using a legacy cellular telephone you can as well use one of the new wifi phones to begin with. I just got the Zyxel Prestige 2000 wifi phone and it is the coolest thing I got in a looong time.

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[TheWebTraveler]

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Skypedot

[fdisk3hs]

Is it just me, or is every day a Skype day lately? Here's a preview of headlines for next week: SKYPE TAKES DUMP, KINDA GREENISH BROWN. SKYPE WOKE UP THIS MORNING. SKYPE HAD CHEERIOS FOR BREAKFAST. 4 OUT OF 5 SKYPES USE CREST.
I have a cell phone, wake me up when I can use VOIP the same way.
YAWN.

Re:Skypedot

[Saeed al-Sahaf]

I though every day was a Google day!?!?!?

Actually, like everyone (well, "normal" people, I'm sure that both Slashdot "editors" and story submiters alike have interests that come and go. And anyway, Skype has been "in the news" of late, yes? So it would be understandable that it got a mention here, eh?

Re:Skypedot

[fdisk3hs]

Yeah, "GOOGLESUN MAKES FLOWERS GROW" will be next. But I keep reading, bumping against the lightbulb like a mindless moth.

Re:Skypedot

[Anonymous Coward]

Your daddy fucked your sister, and you popped out, ass clown!

Buetooth Headset plus Dongle

[Essef]

A bluetooth headset plus a bluetooth USB dongle for your PC achieves the same thing. I'm using this setup at the moment to use "Wireless Skype".

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Free Sip to pstn gateway

[Anonymous Coward]

There's a free sip to pstn gateway at http://voipuser.org/
Calls are limited to 10 miniutes.

Such a stupid gadget

[Newton IV]

A lot of cell carriers already have unlimited anytime US minutes plans (e.g. MetroPCS). Why would you want to couple cell phone with Skype???

Access Point+Asterisk+Bluetooth+Mobile/Headset

[markushx]

gives a home wireless SIP telephone.
There is currently development going on for the access point distribution OpenWRT to build a SIP phone on it.
The access point with USB (e.g. Asus Wl-500g(x)) is running asterisk and bluez and has a Bluetooth dongle connected. It is paired with a Headset and a Mobile. The Mobile is used for typing in the numbers, the headset for the call.
See this thread: http://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=2187
Any help is highly appreciated.

skype to cell = cuphone

[mattlamb]

Far more useful is "cuphone", it will forward skype calls from your computer to any number even your cell. Never miss a skype call !

Anyone tried this product or a similar one?

Bluetooth - Skype is BAD. Bluetooth - SIP good.

[agulliford]

Skype is really NAFF because they do not allow SIP clients or interoperbility with other SIP services.

A mobile phone handset is useful, but as SIP is the public RFC standard that has existed for ages for this kind of thing it should be bluetooth to SIP.

Skype are a closed shop. Dump Skype and get yourself a real VOIP provider that uses SIP.

Make a bluetooth to SIP dongle and I might be impressed.

screw bluetooth

[feckless.son]

Nobody here knows about iSkoot and SkypeOut in tandem? Y'all should read something besides this blog bacon strip. I call China from Boston on my cellphone anytime for 6 cents per minute. http://www.iskoot.com/

Skype-forum.com tell this

[Anonymous Coward]

For a long time i read this in the german http://www.skype-forum.com/ and first i can't believe this.
I thougt first is this possible -yes it is i have tried an it work perfect.

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