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Apple Launches Video Podcasting For iTunes
phaedo00 writes "Apple has launched support for video podcasting in the Podcast section of the iTMS. Ars Technica has a decent write up of the news along with speculation on what this means in the way of a video iPod and Apple's recent application for a patent on the phrase 'iPodcast.'" From the article: "The quiet, fanfare-less launch (in fact, it's not even clear when it was launched) is a bit surprising for the company, but there may be a reason: there's not too many video podcasts out there in the wild. Furthermore, video podcasts are currently only playable on your computer, although it seems clear enough that a video iPod is on the way. If you didn't believe it before, you should definitely believe it now. For now, it looks like video podcasting support is limited."
The site is slowing already, here's the full text. AC to not karma whore.
Apple supports video podcasting
9/15/2005 10:49:43 AM, by Ken "Caesar" Fisher
Apple surprised a few people in June when they rolled podcasting support into iTunes, giving users the ability to download recorded audio programs automatically through the iTunes Music Store. At some point in the recent past, the company took another step and added support for video podcasts (or vodcasts, and some people call them). That's right. No longer do you only get to hear news and opinions read by people in their underwear, now you can watch them, too!
The quiet, fanfare-less launch (in fact, it's not even clear when it was launched) is a bit surprising for the company, but there may be a reason: there's not too many video podcasts out there in the wild. Furthermore, video podcasts are currently only playable on your computer, although it seems clear enough that a video iPod is on the way. If you didn't believe it before, you should definitely believe it now.
For now, it looks like video podcasting support is limited. For instance, Crookz, a video podcast (iTMS link) spoof of Cops, appears to be one of the few video offerings out there that's actually working. However, you can bet that webcams and DV cameras around the world will be dusted off in the wake of this news. Everyone wants to be a radio-star killing video producer, don't they?
When podcasts first hit the scene, I was underwhelmed to say the least. I can read much faster than someone can read to me, and if I'm somewhere like the gym where reading isn't really possible, then I'd much rather listen to music. Still, podcasts have become all the rage, and plenty of sites are now offering podcasts. If enough people wanted them, we might do a weekly podcast for our readers, as well. Let us know.
The thing that occurred to me when podcasting caught on, however, was how we're basically headed towards the democratization of video content. A brief outline of the revolution (if we can call it that) is as follows: from text, to audio, to video, to Michael Sims' high definition homemade anal fisting videos. Blogging caught on once it became dead easy for non-techie types to publish online. Podcasting has followed in its wake: why read or write when you can listen or speak? And now, coming full circle in many ways, the video podcast is poised to take on other forms of video entertainment head-on. What's needed is that proverbial "killer app" that could make video production as easy and recording a podcast. And just who do you think is going to pull that off?
Would you be surprised to learn that Apple has applied for trademarks relating to the word iPodcast? According to AppleInsider:
If I look into my crystal ball, I see a video iPod launch accompanied by an iPodcaster application aimed precisely at producing and optimizing video podcasts.
It's a freaking trademark that they used. You can't patent a word.
Ooo man the floppy drive is broken. No wait. The computer is just upside down.
Obviously, as the Ars Technica article correctly reads, they applied for a trademark on "iPodcast".
What I'm listening to now on Pandora...
Zonk, you can't patent a phrase -- you trademark it.
This is why the jihad hates you -- you suck as an editor.
http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/when_to_
I know the idea of a video capable iPod hasn't been too enticing around here as users complain of small screen areas. I have to say, however, that after purchasing an iRiver H340 and flashing the Korean firmware I love the ability to play video if the fancy strikes me. The screen is big enough to make it worth it to watch movies or tv shows on a flight (or on my lunch break).
I'd be really interested to see what Apple can do for video on a portable jukebox. iRiver's implementation, while nice, seems a bit 'after the fact' so I know there is potential.
I find that some video podcasts are actually quite good. For example, Diggnation is quite good: http://revision3.com/diggnation
as is Systm:
http://revision3.com/systm
It will be interesting to see, with the current amount of media emphasis (especially in the BBC) on camera and video phones being used in reporting stories and being "first on the scene", whether the podcast will rival the mobile phone with regards to use in media. Although the mobile phone is now ubiquitous, the ipod may be capable of recording better quality video and broadcasting it for everyone without the use of a new corporation.
Matthew Grint Midnight Artists
Way to add the 'anal fisting', go you.
This is nothing new. I've been watching Prem Rawat's "Peace is Possible" on iTunes for a while.
The Dawn and Drew show even had a little video as part of their iTunes rss feed.
Apple already has a specialized "ipod videocasting" application - it's called iMovie.
The "news" will be an iPod designed to support video playback right out of the box.
Spoon not. Fork, or fork not. There is no spoon.
I bet they're surpirised to hear of this "new" functionality....
First of all, let's have a quick chuckle over "Apple's recent application for a patent on the phrase 'iPodcast.'" and move on :)
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I noticed that iTunes could handle "video podcasts" in the last version (4.7?) and there's a little writeup of the capability paired with del.ici.us over at lifehacker:
http://www.lifehacker.com/software/entertainment/
Does it mean that a video iPod is "on the way"? Not neccesarily. iTunes has had the ability to play video for a while, and podcasting video is not much different from podcasting audio. Parse
the rss, download the associated media, add to a special playlist. I think the feature was added as an afterthought or experiment: "hey, we can add a couple lines and support this!".
The video iPod remains the white whale of Apple enthusiasts. Often speculated about, never seen.
The overall discussion was about Intel/Apple, but it seems he called this one (at least the first part) right.
"Prepare for the worst - hope for the best."
On that point, how can the term "iPodCast" even be granted, given that a similar and close term "PodCast" already exists and is used by everyone ?
Well, Sony PSP can play h.264 video format. Okay maybe need some simple tweaking with the container format.
Maybe this is something Sony would like to collaborate with Apple on?
A brief outline of the revolution (if we can call it that) is as follows: from text, to audio, to video, to Michael Sims' high definition homemade anal fisting videos.
Why don't you mods try reading the whole thing before you mod?
there's not too many video podcasts out there in the wild.
Actually, there is a very interesting graph in this month's Technology Review concerning podcasts. The graph shows the percentage of podcasts available by subject, versus the percentage of podcasts viewed by subject. Music is, of course, the genre that most podcasts are in, and the genre that most people view. However, erotica is one of the smallest genres by availablilty, and one of the largest by viewership. Porn driving technology again, it seems. :)
It is definitely designed for a video ipod.
In iTunes, you open the window that shows the album art, and right there is the video feed.
My mom says I'm cool.
I know the article says that video podcasting support in iTunes has been around for a while, but why on earth have we not heard about this before? I follow most of the rumor sites, and this hasn't been addressed, and yet it seems like the best evidence for the video iPod. This is the first I've head of this.
I have to wonder if Apple isn't promoting this feature because they're not sure how to bill it. Without a video iPod, it doesn't fit well within their "package deal" of the iTMS, iPod, and iTunes.
Audio podcasts consume large amounts of bandwidth for the host; not just from the content itself, but the constant retrieval of the RSS feeds from podcast clients, as well.
Video podcasts using the same distribution methods would be highly inefficient. But, perhaps an combined solution using syndicated bittorrents would be feasable, like this guy proposes.
// J
They would release a firmware update that would enable video playback on all current Ipod models. This would boost customer loyalty, satisfaction, and increase sales of Ipods across the board.
Then, Apple could simultaniously release a new "accessory" for the Ipod. It would be a line of larger portable screens. The screens could have some sort of dock(maybe on the side) that the Ipod could snap into and feed video out to the portable screen while letting you use the clickwheel for control.
Doing something like this would give ipod owners a new "item" to purchase if they so chose. And, I imagine it would sell very well because now, in addition to entire music collections, you could have entire movie collections with an optional screen to get good viewing off of.
Of course, later apple could release a "video ipod" model as well with improved video out quality and perhaps a larger built in screen for ipod owners to "upgrade" to when their old ipods finally wear out.
It would be a win win situation for everyone and boost apple's hardware sales across the board.
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I've been noticing all the podcasting cognoscenti in Silicon Valley are simultaneously doing their podcast and shooting video of it. What do they know or suspect that we don't?
- Former TechTV ScreenSavers host Leo Laporte, Patrick Norton, John C. "I get no spam" Dvorak and others are doing TWIT and just announced video is next.
- Former ScreenSavers hosts Alex Albrecht and Kevin Rose at Diggnation are shooting video while they podcast and Kevin Rose is doing SYSTM
- Robert X. Cringley's NerdTV debuts. Now you may be wondering, "So what?". It's IPTV...that's what. There aren't a lot of great examples out there yet, but most of the smart podcasters -- who are mini-celebrities or have something people would like to see -- are simultaneously podcasting and shooting video (many in high definition just in case). Read an article about a new report here.
- Silicon Valley podcaster John Furrier from Podtech is embarking on video to augment his podcasting.
Wired magazine has a great article discussing blogging + video = vlogging. While everyone's attention is on podcasting, vlogging is the next hot trend that has almost taken off. This Apple announcement oughta help.It's so hard to believe in anything anymore. If it weren't for my lucky astrology mood watch, I wouldn't believe in anything.
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SLightly different than streaming.
Video is downloaded. RSS is used to inform the iTune application of when new media is available. Depending on the users preferences, the new media will be downloaded or not automatically.
Not sure why Apple (or is it this article?) is saying there isn't a lot of "Video pod-casts" out there. I have about ~50 different people regularly uploading video shows to my free video hosting server. It ranges from the proffesional to the ....er....uhm....home movie.
People have been making home movie shows since the portable video camera were made in what, the 1960's? Just because you trademark a term doesn't make it "new". The only thing really new here is offering a centralized easy to use interface to search RSS feeds of existing vCast and IPTV content. (which I do think is very cool).
Maybe this was misreported, but IMOHO the bigger news story here is having an Agregator of the existing IPTV content, and that I think is good stuff.
-Adam
I don't think video podcasting will take off in the same way as audio podcasting.
It's technically pretty easy to make a decent sounding audio podcast (are we going to have to call it that from now on?). All you need is a decent microphone to record it on, a piece of software to edit it with and you're good. Recording voice so that it sounds good and natural is easy.
Making a decent video podcast is more demanding. I know good video cameras are getting cheaper and cheaper but no matter the quality of the camera you're still looking at somebody's home video unless the lighting is done properly, the sound is recorded by someone who knows what they're doing[1] and you're looking at a person who does not look like he's living in his mom's basement.
In short, a lot more can go wrong when you're moving from just sound to sound and video.
Commercial video podcasting may be interesting. It would be cool to get the news to put on your video iPod. But I think that will be made obsolete pretty quickly with some sort of wireless broadband and mobile phones.
[1] Recording sound for an audio podcast is easy. You speak directly into the microphone. If you have to film the damn thing you'd better move the microphone out of the picture or get a contact mic. Otherwise it will look extremely bad.
Noise Is Music Podcast.
I'm sure it's probably available already, but wonder how many iPorn Podcasts will be available by the end of the year.
"Hello, Apple? Yes, I'd like the new Jenna Jameson iPod Nano, please."
Looks like a Nokia phone with Verizon Vcast.
I see 2 battelships coming towards each other (computer & telcom industries) and the playing field is media (i.e content providers). And the winner will be the one with the best GUI (I bet).
Hopefully this will encourage even greater participation in the DTV / Broadcast Machine projects. Broadcast Machine does all the RSS work for posting video and DTV is a f/oss client that mimics the iTunes interface. Democratized video is imminent.
innovate - verb [ intrans. ] make changes in something established, esp. by introducing new methods, ideas, or products
Seems to me innovation includes taking something established and making changes/improvements to it. And, yes, making something falling-off-a-log easy to use counts.
Who claims that Apple invented portable digital music players? No one. But who would claim that the iPod was not in some degree innovative? I suppose only those who care only about feature lists and not about ease of use, attractive design, etc.
Do not speak unless you can improve on the silence.
So when you get home, the news shows, sports hilights, etc. that you may want to watch have been downloaded to your computer, ready to go. Could be better than Tivo.
Then, of course, it all syncs with your vPod.
Even I am not seeing the bigdeal on this. It sounds like they are episode-ing all the shows via RSS. How is they any different than downloading sections of homemade shows and movies off Atomfilms?
- Mefeedia videoblog directory
- VLOGDIR directory
- vlogmap.org
Want to create videoblogs?...end of transmission...
video ipod
I think we're going in circles here
Right. But their plan is to make one bright and shiny. You will have to have on. The moth flies into the fire. Amen.
Make better use of our home broadband connectivity?. I'm seeing few people addressing the costs and practicality of hosting all this new content.
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It seems that Apple are just calling video-blogging thru iTunes "iPodcasting". I think it was wise of them not to announce / market blitz this feature, while it might be new for iTunes & iPod (to come), waching video on a portable device was not invented by them. So, it seems that Apple sees iPodcasting as adding value to their products and just added it in because they can make it just work for its customers (we can hope).
They could transcode it into picture flipping with a somewhat terrible framerate, which requires no processing to speak of. People have already hacked the color iPods to do just that I believe.
It's not like the iPods are going to be decodinbg MP4 files themselves for some time!
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
innovate - To begin or introduce (something new) for or as if for the first time.
v. intr. To begin or introduce something new.
Since we speak "American" in the US and not "English", you can twiddle your OED around all you like, and you'll frequently be wrong. Were we in England, I might agree, but you already know full well exactly how the word "innovate" is used in tech discussions, so this is already a meaningless point.
I actually have heard several people profess the honest belief that Apple invented portable players, simply out of ignorance that things exist before they might have heard of them. But that wasn't the point I was making. That being that Slashdot is brimming with people who fawn over everything Apple does and claim that they are the only company who "innovates" and everyone else simply copies them. Then a total pass is given to things that Apple clearly copies from others. In the case of the iPod the color and decent marketing was the only particulary "new" thing about it, even the scroll wheel was just a different metaphor on existing interfaces.
There were lots of words in the above paragraph if you want to look them up in your OED also.
MacDailyNews: The next big thing? Apple's iTunes 4.9 supports Video Podcasts (with example) - July 29, 2005e nts/6420/
http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comm
To me, Video PodCasting sounds like a a quick way to the poorhouse - what do you get if people are able to find your Video Podcast through iTunes and actually start watching it? Insane bandwidth bill, that's what. I don't understand how audio podcasts today do not have this problem after Apple introduced a whole mass of people to the concept all at once with a huge cetralized DB to search through.
What I would like to see is some way for RSS podcast feeds to be able to make reference only to a BitTorrent stream, and have iTunes use that behind the scenes to aquire data (it could still use the normal way if preferred).
Or possibly this is a good use of that whole-internet proxy Google was trying to build, make reference to your padcast through that and let Google cache it, Or, I suppose Apple could decide to cache popular Vido Podcasts as well.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Get Itunes, go to podcasts search on Tiki. Watch Tiki TV. Try episode 8 first then go find the rest. AWESOME!
First off, once they do release a video enabled iPod, I'd expect to see the features to quickly spread across most of their product line (at least the hard disk based devices) pretty quickly, much as the photo feature has. Apple needs a way to drive existing users to upgrade to larger capacities and at this point higher bitrate files probably isn't enough reason.
Next up, I hope they consider putting a decent speaker in it. It doesn't have to be great, but it should be decent for reproducing human speech. This is important because my bet is that one of the biggest uses of the video feature won't be watching 30 or 60 minute videos, or even 10 minute podcasts. It will be sharing 2-3 minute clips with friends. It could be a music video, or a section of John Stewart's monologue from the night before.
People used to talk about last night's tv shows around the watercooler. These days, the media is too fragmented for such conversations, but people still need cultural reference points. A video iPod would let them carry culture that they can share with friends and colleagues.
sweetaction's Recent Submissions Title Datestamp VODcasting Wednesday July 06, @05:15PM Rejected I had found that I could play video through iTunes via Pod cast quite a while back. Slashdot didnt care to hear about it. ARS talks it up and slashdot gets giddy. All it would have taken is slashdot trying it for themselve JULY 6th. ha.
steal the idea of a portable video player? haha so only one company should have ever made a record player? a cassette deck? a computer? a car?
do you work for some company that made an early MP3 player that is long forgotten? Apple never claimed to create the first MP3 player.... they seem to just be the first ones to get it right. it would not have gotten so popular at that initial price if it was a nightmare to use (like some other players of the time).
Apple was the first to market a windows based UI, so everyone else has *stolen* that as you say. Apple was also the first to market a personal computer and that idea has been stolen by everyone else. i think you need to rethink your thought on intellectual property rights and how far they actually go.
but one of these posts is wrong:
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by technoextreme (885694) on Thursday September 15, @07:56PM (#13569616)
It's a freaking trademark that they used. You can't patent a word.
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by Otter (3800) on Thursday September 15, @07:56PM (#13569620)
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Apple's recent application for a patent on the phrase 'iPodcast.'
Obviously, as the Ars Technica article correctly reads, they applied for a trademark on "iPodcast".
you can't patent a word yet. you forgot the yet.
I don't remember you complaining about Podcasting - which is the same bloody thing for audio.
Lars T.
To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck
You might want to bone up on the history of microcomputers a bit.
Come on chums, let's talk about the real topic of conversation! CODEC!! Obviously quicktime I bet, but.. what's the tech eh? H.264? Sorenson? Does it have to be 176 x 132 as the Ipod Nano screen shows? Can it scale? The Audio I can only assume is AAC/MP3/MP4
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Answers. I need Answers, or at least an effort
Video podcast support has been there from the beginning. Tiki Bar TV was there on day one, I believe. For another good one, try Rocketboom. For a tech one, try Systm (videos). Try Insane Films as well.
Mike from www.myallo.com/blog
My take on that is it's been easy to watch/listen to streaming content for quite a while. Only recently has it become easy to publish streaming content.
The key is not so much the device as what you put on it. Sure, Apple is going to sell videos and probably movies at some point. The screen is not really the limitation it's made out to be, Apple can design a good one. Most importantly, Apple is going to let people VidCast, which is the equivalent of open source TV. It will start with music videos from small bands/labels, but anybody can fire up iMovie and make a 5 minute video. They will just add an Export option which pre-formats it for PodCasting. No one uses the iRiver for video because iRiver doesn't offer all this nicely packaged content. Apple proved it with music and they'll do the same with video. They're becoming a broadcaster.
I was introduced to vodcasting by this feed by 3voor12 in early July this year (press release in english and a dutch article). It's contents is basicly short impresions and interviews (mostly in dutch) with various artists. This is just another of many services by 3voor12, the progressive digital culture department of dutch public broadcaster VPRO. They have loads of free high quality on demand and live streaming content like music radioshows, concerts and much more. They use the services of VODcast.nl (in english) by the company JetStream.
Breakthrough of the year? No, but will any rss spinoff every be? It still one of my personal top feeds.
whatever.... you might still want to get your head out of your ass.
Who has the trademark on iPorncast? That's where the money's going to be made.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
But snappy comeback though. well said, you've totally disarmed my argument. I and my family are shamed for generations to come.
This is all easily possible today, Steve Mann has shown the way, but I haven't heard of anybody in the video blogging community doing this. Even more spectacular would be if instead of recording directly to the wearable, if it was all recorded, mixed, and streamed via (illegally auto-tapped and legal, depending on the area) 802.11 across the net to a cam server of some sort - you could have a cheap and instant roving IP cameraman/reporter set up, able to go anywhere and report on anything, provided an 802.11 link was found. At the same time, it could record to the hard drive when the link is dropped or such, but the implications for indymedia coverage would be huge. We could actually have a good source for demonstration and other coverage that couldn't be destroyed by police action - indymedia reporters would have nearly the same freedom as regular remote camera news-crews do today, without the expense (albeit, without the quality either).
Imagine wearing such a thing, broadcasting live the latest happenning in your local area, as it happens - for anyone on the internet to see. Imagine if your server capturing all of this auto-inserted paid-for advertisements, to offset you bandwidth bill and maybe also provide a little (or a lot!) of coin on the side. Basically - everyone could become an independent news (or other) broadcaster - provided they could set up the advertising deals and such.
It would be an interesting thing to do, to say the least...
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If I could subscribe to a show's cast and have each episode downloaded automatically when it was released, then this would be a service worth paying for - even if it were not quite fast enough for a live stream.
Dude, it's called Tivo.
Google it. I think you'll be pleasntly surprised.
SteveM
Where do I get one of these video iPods?
Let's not jump the gun to give credit until an ViPod actually exists, K?
And then we can give credit to him and everyone else who's thoughts went something like this:
Audio is to iPod as Video is to ViPod.
SteveM
This makes a lot of sense. Get people using video podcasts before Apple gets into it. The interesting issue will be how Apple can police podcasts (or if they should) regarding use of copyrighted sources. I say that because it is almost inevitable that many of the non-techie podcasts will be sports highlight shows competing with the evening news. Indeed that's almost the killer application. *Except* that obviously they have no right to use the feeds. I don't know how (or even if) Apple is policing current podcasts. I know a lot of people are pretty careful about the legalities with music, whereas I've found some that I'm pretty sure are just violating laws left and right. But mark my words, Apple will try to get news stations to put up highlights and the like. i.e. your locals station's sports highlights for college sports is bound to be there. My big question is exactly what the licensing for podcasts of borrowed feeds is. For example ABC regularly uses CBS sports feeds and vice versa with big expensive agreements. How does that fit into podcasting?
Very few things on /. annoy me more than "nothing new here" comments. If it's not news to you, go ahead and read something else. It seems like the only reason for these type of posts is to boast about how you're so far ahead of the curve.
Personally, I would use NetBSD before FreeBSD, then again, that's because I can run it on just about anything it seems :)
Then again, at least you said FreeBSD and not Linux :) That in and of itself gives you 5 bonus points :)
That articles CLAIMS newer iPods "should" be able to play Ogg -- and he's convinced older iPods can, too. Whether or not it's true is not proven in that misleading link of yours.
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Duh, I have known about this.
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You can subscribe to video podcasts in iTunes, but I kind of prefer having a separate application to do it with...
.torrent form initially, and automatically download the videos via bittorrent.
The best one so far is DTV (mac-only beta right now). The biggest feature this has that iTunes doesn't have is the ability to receive the video podcasts in
Unless iTunes provides some kind of automatic caching for the video files, having just a moderate amount of popularity could kill aspiring video podcasters.
Another app is FireANT, which without the bittorrent feature makes me hate it.
DTV also has a built-in directory to find video podcasts, which is pretty cool. They do a good job of making the process easy to use, although their beta is still a little wonky at times.
"What thou shalt not, I shalt did!" -Bart Simpson
This is interesting because I created a video podcast for one of my favorite bands. Soem very funny stuff from the band. Here is the rss feed info: http://www.oneguyspodcast.com/patmcgeeband.rss or if you have itunes you can automatically subscribe here. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/ viewPodcast?id=79692711
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...I made a replica of what it could look like for giggles:
iPod Video
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Pictures today are already transcoded to fit on the iPod (you do have the option to also store the original file).
The question is, why wouldn't you do it? The iPod has a rather tiny screen and it makes sense to at least simplify the video to take up less room. Not to mention that is preserves the most precious resource in small devices, battery life.
Transcoding is the future of media, to enable it to go places it might not otherwise. I think with Apple actually doing the playback in firmware they could probably get about 20-30 FPS.
Apple is not out to buld another PSP. They want to keep to small, portable, long lasting media players.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
But it will be vodcast'ed !
Q: How many video-podcasts will it take to change the government ?
A: Only time will tell.
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If you don't want to watch the in flight movie, (its where entertainment comes to die, hopefully not taking you down with it,) you have a way out without having to blow the rear door off. (That decompression is worse than an MP4. :-)
And its a democratic idea. The production values are shit (now) but the content doesn't have to be music.
Educational videos (like one I had to watch on IDMS DB) can be downloaded to a ViPod and delivered that way, instead of a bunch of us having to sit and squirm through it, missing parts of it when we had to go to the bathroom or on a smoke or a snack break (or just to leave the room and scream.)
And I like the idea that Woodie Allen wouldn't have had to spend all that money making some of his movies, wasting his time and mine with such banalities. Its not that they weren't worth watching but they weren't worth watching on a big screen.
The 'pitch' wouldn't have to the money men in the same way. There are a lot of stories that are interesting but they aren't interesting enough to warrant the budgets, and so they don't get made.
The ViPod is a GOOD idea. (And it would really fuck with the MPAA, like PodCasts are screwing with the RIAA by making anyone a member...)
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"Slashdot is brimming with people who fawn over everything Apple does"
But its not Linux...
MSBPodcast.com The opinions expressed here are my own. If you don't like 'em... Think up your own stuff.
As you should be for lowering yourself so low as to argue with someone with a cerebrovascular injury
I was willing to bet that the vPod was going to be announced at the Nano announcement, but I was wrong. At least I put it in writing for once!
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a lot of folks, including us over at make magazine have been putting videos and pdfs in itunes and the itunes feed for months now. the first one we did that is in our itunes feed is from 7/19 (http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2005/07/make _on_g4tv_th.html)
Goodness me, thank you! I would never have dreamed of looking up words I don't understand -- and of course that means most of them -- in a dictionary! It's lovely that people are so kind to a complete idiot like me!
Do not speak unless you can improve on the silence.
This is nothing new. There have been video podcasts in the itunes music store since they started carrying them. Diggnation and Command N are two notable examples.
Who's leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?
iTunes has supported this from pretty much day one of supporting podcasts. Diggnation has had a video podcast since just a couple episodes in.
1. I know where "I" am, and since I am inclusive in "we", we are not someplace I am not. You may be, and likely are, someplace I am not, since I am alone at the moment, but you are not "we".
2. correction noted.
3. Arguing over the minutia of definitions instead of the actual issue is not a direction I'm willing to take further.
4. thank you, I shall tweak as the mood hits me.
5. I agree, you might have missed that my original post was intended to contain extreme sarcasm. The point being that when the situation is reversed, the slobbering fanboys here claim everyone is copying apple, nobody but apple innovates, blah blah blah. But when apple engages in the exact same behavior, they're given a total pass. I've got nothing against apple or their products (I own several), but the sycophants make it very difficult to be on "their side".
6. true.
There seems to be an ongoing obsession by the media and the vaporious "Video iPod". For the past 4 years the media has been claiming that a video iPod is just around the corner, and every time word leaks that Apple is about to make an iPod related announcement, the media starts reporting that it is without a doubt a Video iPod.
I think it is time for the media (and public) to realize that the Video iPod ISN'T just around the corner, and that it may not be available for years yet, if ever.
I don't think a video iPod is a bad idea, it's just sad that the media is in a perpetual "Video iPod coming soon!" frame of mind.
I know two other people personally who have purchased NANO's and have had as many problems if not more as I have had. And I've had a lot. I'd say I'm having to restore my NANO's software at least every other time I try to addd songs, a time commitment that simply isn't worth it. I dunno if this is just shoddy software development on the part of Apple or what but it is borderline rediculous. Frustrating as hell. One needs only look at the apple discussion board to see how many people are having similar problems. I'm not an apple computer user so I can't speak to their computers which I've heard are actually quite reliable but I wouldn't recommend anyone buying a NANO, actually the exact opposite. I'd say wait until they've figured out how to make a product that actually works, something they should have done before they started selling them, before you make the mistake of buying one. I can only hope that Apple will realize that they're not going to drive any customers to their computer platforms by having their music products work so poorly with windows, if anything, they've driven this customer away. Mr. Jobs if you're listening, put down the fork, push yourself back from the table, apologize to Madonna and Yo-Yo Ma for having to leave prematurely, excuse yourself from the table and get back to the office and figure out how it is that something so small could end up being such a giant pain in the ass. Yes I know I'm venting and yes it does make me feel better.
Could have fooled me as except to test them I have yet to watch a podcast on my computer and I have watched many. I watch them on my pda (Tapwave Zodiac) and its capable of playing pretty much anything. it even plays h264 but a bit slow since its was never designed for that :-)
Chris Taylor
http://www.zodiacreview.com/
There's no 'on' position on the Slacker switch!
i didn't do any research and i have no idea what you are talking about. back in the day Apple was one of the first to actively market computers to individuals (as opposed to businesses). if there were others that tried the same push, i don't remember them.
even if i was off on one little point, my post in general was obviously dead on since you had nothing else to say about it. the point of my post was that when a second or a hundredth company markets a similar product it is not always stealing. there are a lot of companies that sell cereal and they did not have to get an ok from old man Kellog (or whomever invented that). maybe they stole the concept of cereal, but they make their own version. competition makes better products. Nintendo Sony were not making game systems back in the day, but they outlasted the founders of that world. do you get my point? probably not.
Personally, I think the entire reason the PC industry has grown so fast and successfully is due to unprecedented levels of open architecture and competition.
One last question: was there really ever an Old Man Kellog?
ok fine! ....but i still would not call the seemingly impending video iPod a blatant rip-off of somebody else's idea. something like the ipod or a video ipod is common sense at this point. it's just who will make it first, and who will make it well. being the first out the gate is one thing when it catches everyone by surprise, it is another when it is something obviously in the pipe. it is a real achievement to make the device well.
that being said Steve Jobs just last week said he still doesn't see a market for an iPod video device. he didn't say it will never happen, but that it doesn't exist now. i kind of agree. Sony is trying to jump start it by putting movies out for PSP, but there is not really a good (legal?) way for the masses to even get movies to their portable players now. i guess at some point they could have some video support for novelty value so you can see the music video that is bundled with some album purchases from iTMS, or the video podcasts that iTunes now supports. that may lead to the ability to play the digicam created that you can now organize in iPhoto (and sync with video iPods). if the ipod processor/software can handle it, they could turn it on at any point and have a way to serve it up..... but how much demand is there? i am guessing that at some point you will be able to sync videos/movies and use the cables to hook the ipod to a TV and watch them where ever.... or on the crappy little screen if you want. maybe videopodcasting will create a demand for people to easily download the shows and carry them to a TV? i dunno. personally i don't care that much right now. i have no desire to carry movies or videos in my pocket at this time. if the feature was there, i may drag around some fun video stuff to randomly have on hand... but maybe not really.
yeah, there was a Dr Kellog. Dr. John Harvey Kellogg invented corn flakes. he ran the Battle Creek Sanitarium and they were the creation of his issue with whatever patients were being fed for breakfast. it was a mix of nutrition, his religious based vegetarianism and whatever else. there is some show on one of the discovery channels that went into the history of cereal and gave his bio. seems he had a lot of odd health ideas (a lot of religious based stuff mixed in with old style medicine).