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PSP vs. DS Six Months On

Gamasutra has a follow-up to a previous Question of the Week about the PSP and the DS. The question this past week was: "Which handheld do you think is winning the most hearts, and which the biggest marketshare in each territory?" From the article: " My personal view of the PSP hasn't changed at all. It's not what I'm looking for in a portable system. Seriously, who actually wants to watch a movie on a tiny screen? The DS genuinely has more options for innovation when it comes to unique software, but because the general masses are easily influenced by what is cool, I can foresee less developers spending time on creating innovative software on the DS in an effort to cash in on the popularity (and mass marketing) of the PSP. Still, the DS has sold quite a number of units, also, where I currently reside, the PSP has only just launched recently, so it's still hard to say. -Anonymous "

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  1. Price Drop by Avacar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Personally, I took advantage of the PSP vs DS to buy a used Game Boy Advanced SP. Sure, I'm years behind on the handheld, but I'll wait out this current battle, and buy in once it is more affordable and has enough interesting games on one of the systems to really pull my interest.

    I do look forward, though, to seeing what a Zelda or Mario game on the DS would be like (and I don't mean a port).

  2. DS is better, I love my PSP by MBCook · · Score: 4, Informative
    I think the DS is the better of the two. It's more innovative and has some amazing titles. I can't wait so see what Nintendo has in store.

    That said, at this point the PSP is starting to come into it's own. It is starting to get some games that are the kind I want (note: I own both). While there have been some nice games (Hot Shots Golf used up a lot of my time), Burnout: Legends just came out. Lots of content, fun to play, looks FANTASTIC. SSX on Tour is looking very interesting to me. GTA: Liberty City Stories will sell a ton and might be great.

    While the DS has better pick up and play games and short games. The PSP is a PS2 to go. The kind of games seem to be quite different. While that at first made me less interested in the PSP, I've come to a realization. I don't play my consoles much any more. I just don't have that kind of time that I like to devote to it. But I love the ability to play between classes on campus, when I have nothing to do at work, etc. Even just sitting at home and watching TV while playing. I really LIKE this ability, and I can see myself playing the PSP more and more if they have games I like. Since I can put the PSP on hold at any point, I don't have to worry about if I can pause/save when something is happeneing.

    I've played my DS more. I'm starting to like my PSP more. They are both good consoles, and I think they have such different market segments (at least for me) that it's not a problem. The DS has more "GameBoy" games, while the PSP has more "Console" games.

    If I had to choose one? The DS. I've played it more so far, found more games I like so far. And while I have no doubt there will be good games for the PSP, I always know I can count on my Nintendo consoles for great (and interesting) games. But it would be a hard choice. If you had asked me 3-4 months ago, the choice would have been MUCH easier.

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    1. Re:DS is better, I love my PSP by apoc06 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      i agree with you. ive tried to force myself to buy a ds to complement my psp, but as of yet, i havent found a reason to. the main thing stopping me is that i havent found any games that i am willing to play just yet. nintendogs doesnt interest me in the slightest. honestly the only game i would be interested in is advance wars ds, due to my enjoyment of it from the gba versions.

      i enjoy the portables for the same reasons you list. i like the promise that the psp shows. graphically and in terms of power, it can do what the ds does and more. i like the ability to encode a movie and take it with me without anything extra other than the cost of a memory card i would have bought anyways.

      i hope nintendo sticks to their guns and releases some serious software in the upcoming months. no one really cares about the hardware. the "innovative" aura wears off rather quick. its the software that will keep the ds afloat. otherwise i predict that sony will end up steamrolling the ds once thier AAA titles start rippling onto the scene. its the games that keep people hooked, and sony has shown that they definitely are going to flood the psp with games, in time.

      so far the psp has about 50 games upcoming, and the ds has about 35. sure some of of the games for psp will be crap and people will hate them, but like most people; i like that. i like having options. i like sleeper games. games that some people consider crap, i actually enjoy. case in point: coded arms, metal gear ac!d... etc. its the same as in the console world. by and large, the nintendo console catalog may just have the highest ratio of good to bad games, but they dont have enough games that appeal to me in genres i enjoy. id rather have 10 b-level games, opposed to 3 a-level games a year. its a shame that the ds seems to be following suit with its consoles rather than the gameboy blueprint.

  3. Re:Advanced Wars DS by vertinox · · Score: 4, Interesting

    DS == dual-screen gimmick with few or no games that usefully take advantage of the second screen

    All you need to play is Advanced Wars DS and you will change your mind. It's all I need for entertainment... I've stopped playing computer games. I can still hear the main theme battle song while I type this at work. I want to go home and play it right now.

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  4. No one's won my heart yet... by jeblucas · · Score: 3, Informative
    I'm just kicking it on the fence here waiting to see how things go. I'm a long time gamer (Odyssey2 bitches! PickAxe Pete in the hizzouse!), have tons of disposable income, and prefer excellent games over excellent graphics every time. I still play Diablo 2 weekly, and currently have a nethack thing going.

    But I still don't know which of these, if either, I want. For a while I had the PSP on my Amazon wishlist, now it's a DS--maybe I'll switch back--I kind of want someone else to decide for me. Here's how I see them: The DS has better games (Kirby Canvas Curse, Advance Wars, Meteos), the PSP has the better screen and homebrew possibilities. The DS is cheaper, but the PSP can play movies.

    Neither of them has managed to court me sufficiently. Maybe by year end the games will decide it.

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    1. Re:No one's won my heart yet... by aliquis · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm in the same position as you. Just a short while ago it looked like the DS would have better games, but I would like to get into adventure/RPGs and there seems to come a bunch of those to the PSP aswell. Games which are the same on both (racing, snowboarding, so on..) will of course look better on the PSP and probably play better with the analoge stick so that's a reason to get that.

      Also the hardware is much better, the screen is brighter and it got a better viewing angle. The DS on the other hand got that touch screen, but there are a bunch of stupid boring games for that like WarioWare, I don't want those, use it there it makes sense instead. Also I don't care for Nintendogs.

      On the other hand you can share games with the DS, it's cheaper, and it got mario, zelda, metroid and I would like to say megaman but that title comes to the PSP instead.

      Anyway, I can't decide really, and I've got no money anyway. I would like to get a gamecube aswell but I guess it's better to wait for the next generation. But I want to be able to chip the console aswell...

  5. Damnit people, leave Zonk alone! by nmaster64 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    What the hell is with all the people bashing Zonk in the last couple posts? No one was bashing when interesting stuff was posted about the X360 or PS3...but when Nintendo gets it's 15 minutes of fame everyone goes whining about the admin being biased and what-not.

    Christ, you people need to grow up. The man is doing his job, leave him alone. He's supplying information, that's what he's there to do, and he's doing a damn good job, so back off. This subject is offtopic anyway (my own post included, I won't exclude myself from the blame).

    1. Re:Damnit people, leave Zonk alone! by oGMo · · Score: 3, Insightful
      What the hell is with all the people bashing Zonk in the last couple posts?

      Because he seems to post things with an inflammatory bent, espcially pro-Nintendo stuff. Now don't get me wrong: I love Nintendo. I grew up with Nintendo. I still have my NES and most of my carts. But come on.

      Things seem to often fall like this: "Microsoft is OK, Sony Sucks, and Nintendo is Where It's At." Always? No, not always. But enough that some people would be upset enough to bash him, obviously.

      I haven't seen many or any people who are really anti-Nintendo, especially on slashdot. So you have to take a serious look at what's going on if a lot of people start complaining about someone who publishes a lot of pro-Nintendo stuff, stuff they don't necessarily disagree with. They have issue then with something else, and maybe it's legitimate.

      The man is doing his job, leave him alone. He's supplying information, that's what he's there to do, and he's doing a damn good job, so back off.

      It seems a number of people disagree.

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  6. DS Baby! by diamondmagic · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The DS is much better because of two all-important features:
    • The touch screen
    • Download games and programs from peers
    The second option has seeded the way for using the DS to interact with the Revolution, because this allows you to use it as part of the game, not just for transfering information.
    1. Re:DS Baby! by Lordie · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Burnout Legends lets you share a multiplayer demo of the game with other PSP owners. While we're wildly speculating on what the DS is/isn't going to do with what might or might not be called the Nintendo Revolution, we should also speculate as to how the wireless aspect of the PSP allows you to use it as part of the game, and not just for transferring information.

    2. Re:DS Baby! by cowscows · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm going to add another observation on the DS. I don't have a PSP, so I can't fully compare them, but here goes my comment anyways.

      When I evacuated for the hurricane a couple weeks ago, I ended up staying with some of my girlfriend's family, including six kids ranging from the ages of 1-12. Our two DS's were very popular with them, and were the cause of much fighting and grabbing. Portions of the DS even spent some time in the one year-old's mouth.

      When it was all said and done, neither of them were damaged in any noticeable way, and they're both entirely functional. Surprisingly enough, I was even able to find all of the games after a mildly extensive search of the house.

      The DS is a solid piece of hardware for sure. I don't think twice about throwing it in my bag and going about my day.

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    3. Re:DS Baby! by fistfullast33l · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The DS is a solid piece of hardware for sure. I don't think twice about throwing it in my bag and going about my day.

      That being said, I'm just going to point out that the PSP is definitely too expensive to buy for your 10 year old, let alone several 10 year olds. However, my 10 year old cousin played my PSP (Ape Escape, if you must know) when I was home a few weeks ago with no problems whatsoever and he loved it. I've heard complaints of dead pixels and shaking it to break and all that. It's an electronic device, not a rubber ball. My PSP has a carrying case with games that is kept in the same bag as my laptop. Both have survived my treks around campus, in the car, and even the NYC subway just fine. I'm pretty sure that durable hardware is a moot point. You want the thing to survive an 18-inch fall onto carpet, not a tumble out of a moving van at 50 mph.

  7. Uninformed response by Bastian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    (not that uninformed is bad - perceptions of people who own neither system are what will ultimately decide which becomes dominant.)

    Now, here's what I see as the difference between the DS and the PSP:

    1. The PSP costs twice as much.
    2. The PSP won't fit in my pocket as easily.
    3. The PSP's battery life is so short that it's not really all _that_ portable. For example, it probably won't be able to keep me entertained for the length of a long flight.
    4. With the PSP, I'm paying for oodles and oodles of features that I know I will not use.
    5. I can play all those Game Boy games that are still on heavy rotation on the DS.
    6. The PSP costs twice as much.

  8. from GBA to DS by Is0m0rph · · Score: 2, Interesting

    DS homebrew is cheap and easy now that the SuperCard flash system for the GBA/DS has had a firmware upgrade allowing it to run DS software from a CF or SD flash card. I use my GBA all the time with a SC system I think I'm upgrading to a DS soon.

  9. PSP best for homebrew by StonedRat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I love my PSP, but only for homebrew, emus, etc. God knows why Sony wish to stop people using the PSP for the only thing it's good for.

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  10. Re:Who cares? by TecnaDigit · · Score: 3, Funny

    I agree, who cares?

    The point is to be satisfied with what you have, no matter which one it is. I only have a DS and I'm quite content with it. If you're happy with your PSP, good for you. There's no point in bickering like fanboys over it.

    If you're happy with both, well you're a rich little snot and I envy you.

  11. PSP vs DS sales by Konrad9 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I recently started working in the electronics dept at a local walmart, and the DS is whooping the PSP's proverbial butt.
    Every time I go in there are less and less DS's (till we restock). I've only seen one PSP sold and never notice any less in the glass case.

  12. In a nutshell... by MMaestro · · Score: 3, Informative
    DS Pros :

    Better/more numerous games
    More innovative
    High potential as a gaming system
    Won over the hardcore audience
    Durable
    Acceptably priced
    Battery life is excellent

    PSP Pro :

    Superior hardware
    UMD movies
    Beautiful screen for a handheld
    Buries the DS in marketing
    Seen as 'hip'
    Future game releases could be a serious tide-turner (if things aren't already in favor of the PSP)

    DS Cons :

    Still viewed as 'kiddy' (Nintendogs isn't helping this image)
    Nothing to match the PSP's music and movie playing abilities (third party add-ons don't count)
    Games are largely untraditional (Kirby Canvas Curve takes some serious getting used to)
    Poor marketing ('Touching is good'? Wth?)
    Still fairly small game library (not including GBA games)

    PSP Cons :

    Poor construction for a portable device (Scratchy screens, UMD shooting abilities, dead pixels, etc)
    Firmware alienates all homebrewed software (early adopters are in the minority with no hope of increasing in number)
    Battery life is horribly short for a handheld (Most users report between 3~12 hours usage depending on whats it used for)
    Game library pathetically small even compared to the DS (Homebrewed games and emulators don't count)
    Although future releases promise PSP domination, they're still future releases and have not been launched

  13. I own a PSP and It has ergonomic issues by marcybots · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I own a PSP and it is uncomfortable to play games that use the analog stick for more than like 20 minutes, it makes my hand hurt! Also the screen has a refresh rate that is somewhat slow and makes my eyes hurt. My girlfriend agrees, and on a recent long car trip she had to take frequent breaks from playing the thing complaining that it was hurting her eyes. Thats pretty bad. I have actually gone back to playing Gameboy SP, its smaller, more comfortable to hold and easier on my eyes, even with its little screen....its something to do with the way it refreshes or the way it does 3d.

  14. Firmware; movie selection by tepples · · Score: 3, Insightful

    the PSP has the better screen and homebrew possibilities.

    The supply of PSP units with 1.50 firmware on the used market is dwindling fast as homebrew players snap them all up on eBay, and the 1.51 or later firmware is not cracked to my knowledge. The most common Nintendo DS firmware, on the other hand is fully cracked ("PassMe" and "WiFiMe"), and even the new version in Chinese units and some Japanese units has a preliminary crack for it.

    The DS is cheaper, but the PSP can play movies.

    The Nintendo DS plus a portable DVD Video player is $250 just like the PSP, and there are a lot more lawfully available feature length movies on DVD Video than on a PSP compatible format. In fact, Disney/Pixar's Toy Story is the only G-rated movie available on UMD Video in North America. Read More...

  15. Would Starcraft for PSP be a good match? by tepples · · Score: 2

    Games which are the same on both (racing, snowboarding, so on..) will of course look better on the PSP and probably play better with the analoge stick so that's a reason to get that.

    Ports of PC RTS games such as the rumored port of Starcraft would play with the controller that is more like a keyboard+mouse, and that's the Nintendo DS touch screen, not some analog stick. Starcraft on PSP would handle like Starcraft 64, that is, it'd feel like Mouse Keys.

    The DS on the other hand got that touch screen, but there are a bunch of stupid boring games for that like WarioWare

    "Stupid boring"? Have you even tried Kirby Canvas Curse?

  16. DS vs. PSP in my eyes... by Demon-Xanth · · Score: 3, Informative

    Number of DSs that I've seen:
    4, not counting demo units (managed to get them all in one place)

    Number of PSPs I've seen:
    0. No demo unit. Nothing. Never even saw anyone with one while waiting for someone at the airport.

    When the PSP came out I said if it overcame three problems, it'd be great. Price, battery life, and durability. It's still quite expensive for a portable device, it's battery life is still quite a bit shorter than an SP or DS, and it's still fragile.

    You pay $130 for a DS, and if you get a game, such as Bomberman, Meteos, Advance Wars: Dual Strike, or the soon to be released Castlevania for $30-35 and you're set. You don't need to buy any accessories.

    Now, you pay $250 for a PSP, it includes a small memory stick. The games are $40-50. If you want to watch movies or listen to music you gotta break out $50-100 for a memory stick large enough to fit them.

    Make sure you don't discount third party addons (ie: Play-yan, which is endorsed by Nintendo) while not discounting the need for the memory stick.

    Do I hate the PSP? No. Will I buy a PSP? No.

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