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3-Way Motherboard Shootout
Steve writes "Hexus.net has put three high-end i955X-based motherboards through their paces, to see which is the best LGA775 platform motherboard. Intel's own offering falls a little short, but Gigabyte and ABIT both make compelling boards, with ABIT taking the top-spot by a small margin."
Ill stick with my dual dual-core opteron mobo, thank you :)
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They are.
whoa... i wasnt thinking straight when I wrote the subject to my comment :| I meant AMD :P
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The test ended rather abruptly when it was found the motherboards were not equipped with guns as ordered.
Move along. Nothing to see here folks.
three way... mother.... shoot.... too easy.
it would have been even more embarrassing if the article was called "Threesome Motherboard shootout."
How is the quality of these boards? Will they still be working in two or three years? Or will they have leaking capacitors by that time?
Cyric Zndovzny at your service.
Even if the Abit has a slight performance lead, I like all the features on the Gigabyte more. It is nice to see two pata connectors instead of just one like the other two boards. It also has more PCI slots than the Abit.
Havoc Penington, the bane of my Linux desktop.
Wow, no SLi on any of them, I'll stick with my ASUS for now.
it's a sig, wtf?
I used to think brands really didn't matter. Until I bought the Abit Ka7-100. It was a highend board back around 2000 with 4 Dimm slots and 6 PCIs, 1 AGP. And an ISA slot which could be used when sacrificing the last PCI slot. It was fantastic at the time.
Then the transistors fried. I paid for shipping etc and got a replacement. Then it fried again, replaced, then fried again. 4 years later Abit sends me a letter saying they lost a lawsuit for selling select board models with broken transistors including the Ka7-100. Basically they knew it, and told consumers nothing about it.
Yes, we get it. You guys can build big motherboards with gobs of features, including legacy stuff I'll never use.
... everybody, which means "nobody in particular". This is a market ripe for picking. If somebody had the brains and balls, they could really make a killing. How about a Mac mini-like motherboard?
For once, I'd like to see somebody build a small motherboard with modern connectors, quiet (or no) fans, and no legacy crap that just takes up space. Right now, about the only way to get that is out of a Mac mini.
I'm still using a 5-year-old computer that I've only upgraded once (bought a new 80 GB disk to replace the old 9 GB one). It's still fast enough for everything I do -- if/when I upgrade, I hope to get something smaller and quieter. I don't care about faster, because the slowest new computer available is faster than this sub-GHz Athlon.
It's kind of sad that, over the past 10 years, the only thing that's really changed about motherboards is that they've gotten faster. They've gone to all the work to come up with new and faster and smaller busses (Firewire, USB2, S-ATA, etc.), but it doesn't make the boards any smaller if they're still including all the big old legacy ports, still, too!
(Yay, floppy, IDE, and PCI slots! What, no ISA?)
ISTM that all motherboard manufacturers today build pretty much the same product, which is aimed at
Is there a hidden message in this post that I cannot see?
plz mod me up too, i think 4 ways are hotter. :P
Steve writes "Hexus.net has set three high-end i955X-based motherboards against each other, to see which is the best LGA775 platform motherboard. Intel's own offering fell after taking a shot to the head, but Gigabyte and ABIT both survived for hours, with ABIT taking out Gigabyte by dropping his gun and strangling him to death. Police are still investigating the cause of the shootout and Hexus' motive in provoking it."
these motherboards contain intel's DRM technology.
pass it on.
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2449
search for DRM in the above site for confirmation and some extra info.
Science : Proprietary , Knowledge : Open Source
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Only one thing matters. Warranty.
As a Genuine Intel Dealer, I can expect a replacement board to be overnighted even before I send the faulty one back. That way there is minimum disruption to the customer.
Try telling a customer their server is down for a few weeks while you wait for the board to be shipped back to Taiwan/China for testing before they'll issue a replacement.
Had a few customers who got non-Intel boards and had no computer for up to three months while waiting for a replacement. Think about that. That's three months paying for broadband you can't use for some people. The inconvenience cost adds up pretty quickly. Kinda makes a 5% increase in motherboard performance seem pretty irrelevant.
And Intel has a good history of actually fixing mistakes. FDIV bug -> replaced processors. VC820 SDRAM bug -> new board and free RDRAM RIMM.
Oh well. I'll stop ranting but hopefully you get my point.
...Leaves 2 hard drives dead and one CD-ROM drive wounded.
^I'm with stupid.^
Seriously, these bleeding edge boards never come with decent linux support and require freaky windows drivers as well.
I'll keep my 386 thanks.
and that's why I got a D955XBK in my new dual-core P4 Extreme system. It's amazing how 99% of desktop computer users have NO IDEA if their memory flips a bit every now and then (let alone correcting it!). The Intel MOBO supports ECC memory.
Best Buy can have you arrested
That Hexus site is one of the most anoying I've ever seen. Every other word is highlighted with a sponsored link that's often not related at all to the subject at hand. It seems to me that the whole point of that site is to have mildly-useful content simply as click fodder.
Best Buy can have you arrested
Abit, gigabyte and intel? Sorry, theres a new highend standard, especially for overclockers. If you havn't heard of DFI, they have some kickass boards, loads of features, and rock solid. I guess they have a dozen s775 mobos, and im sure they'll have i955 chipset boards soon.
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
I'll stick to performance reviews, its all a bit dice toss in reality and if you expected more from a publically held company you should reconsider.
There are no saints here.
Quack, quack.
Looks like the time has come for OpenHardware and OpenMusic...
May Peace Prevail On Earth
For getting it's act together. I built up 10 P4 systems each with Abit AI7 motherboards. They all worked flawlessly... except for the bullshit Northbridge fan. I had to replace every one of them.
Nice to see that Abit figured out a fix with the heatpipe system on the Northbridge chip and this board.
"Eve of Destruction", it's not just for old hippies anymore...
So basically what I got out of that article is that the performance of all three boards using default settings were almost exactly the same, and that unless I'm using Microsoft Movie Maker, a 2.4Ghz Athlon64 kicks the crap out of the 3.6Ghz P4 Systems with this new chipset.
Yup, I for one am glad that I went with an Athlon 64 over a P4.
Nothing to see here
While I don't have experience with these particular boards, I've have had very good luck with two ABIT models:
;)
KT7E and KX7-333R
The KT7E has been running virtually non-stop for 4 or 5 years; the KX7 likewise about three years. Both have been used constantly for their service life running floating point, number crunching code.
Both boards have withstood cpu fan failures and powersupply failures; replacement of the faulty components and they're up-n-runnin'.
I'd recommend ABIT to anybody with the caveat that I did have some problems with the KX7 until a bios update was done. Since then..no problem.
Though I have to admit, my newer systems are ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxes with Athlon 64 X2's.
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Not transistors.
And honestly, many mobo companies had problems with this at that time. There was a company making knockoff capacitors that appears to be high quality components. Many good mobo makers got taken by this. It was covered on slashdot.
I personally won't buy Abit again if I can avoid it, for different reasons. My high end from them is still working, but I had significant problems in the beginning and minor problem all along, and they just never even responded to my queries on their forums.
http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/8/20/95
if someone can find another reason to buy a motherboard with an extra high speed PCI-e slot... that's another story though.
I did.
I'm running ASUS A8N-SLI's with Athon 64 X2's on board in a small cluster. I'm not using the SLI feature.
I got these boards because:
1. ASUS performance is solid with the dual core Athlon 64.
2. Dual GbE on-board; no purchase of second NIC to use as headless cluster.
I can tie one NIC into my existing LAN and keep the other for the dedicated cluster interconnect. I don't have a KVM, but I can ssh directly into any node if need be.
3. *IF* I can full around and offload SOME number crunching to the GPU(s), maybe the SLI will come in handy in the future? It's a thought I'll keep in the back of my mind.
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My KT7 stopped working the other day. As soon as you boot the alarm screams at you non-stop, even though nothing is wrong in the health section of the BIOS. And it locks up after about 30 seconds of being on, even when you are just sitting in the BIOS watching the seconds tick by.
Their support of course says "check the CPU temp" and calls it a day. Despite me clearly telling them everything is fine in the PC health section of the BIOS, and that I had swapped out RAM, CPU and video card to make certain it was the motherboard. The fact that they can't even bother to read support requests, nevermind give useful support is ridiculous.
First of all, its not like a cryptographic hash at all, its like a checksum, because it is a checksum.
Second, do you care a pointer that used to point to one memory address suddenly and mysteriously points to another, leading to a segfault, or blue screen if its kernel memory?
From the article: "Having to replace a motherboard usually necessitates a long-winded process of reinstalling an OS, programs, and personal data."
Since when has swapping a motherboard forced me to format my hard disks???
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Abit motherboards are infamous for reporting incorrect temperatures. I like their motherboard features but I will never buy another Abit board because the usefulness of their temperature monitoring software is greatly reduced when load temperatures are 15 degrees celcius than actual. Most motherboards give inaccurate temperature readings but Abit is the worst that I have seen.
A motherboard 3-way! Who's on top?
Linux sucks. It is an underground OS that is completely unstandardized. Linux geeks, get the fuck over yourselves.
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AnandTech claims that most memory errors are due to bad power. So it it isn't critical, get a decent power supply and you can skip the ECC.
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The driving theory behind ECC memory is that it corrects errors that occur in memory. Perhaps a transistor is faulty and flipped for the wrong reason, or a faint electrical signal pulled a transistor into the incorrect position. While researching this review and others, we have noticed the largest factor for incorrect memory blocks is faulty power supplies.
http://www.anandtech.com/casecooling/showdoc.aspx
A refreshing change.
You mean the one they initially didn't want to fix unless you could somehow prove that it might affect you? I'd be hard pressed to think of a worse example of this magical Intel warranty support you're so proud of.
They may indeed be better now; if so, then you should have picked a case that didn't make people hate them.
Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?