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NASA BlueMarble: Next Generation

gbnewby writes "Remember the NASA Blue Marble composite image of earth from space, completely cloud free? Today a whole new series was released showing earth scenes from cloudless days across all 12 months of 2004. These beautiful images come in many different resolutions and formats. NASA even provided some animations. We and others have set up web, ftp and rsync mirrors; let the Torrents begin!"

168 comments

  1. Celestia by Slashdiddly · · Score: 5, Informative

    The best way to enjoy NASA's blue marble is through Celestia.

    1. Re:Celestia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But how? I don't see any connection between the two.

    2. Re:Celestia by slonkak · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I know this isn't the place to ask, but I would really appreciate if anyone out there who has gotten celestia to work could make an inclusive rpm, no dependencies. I am all for tinkering with software installs on linux (core 3) and trying to get this stuff to work, but for some reason i'm not feelin it tonight.

    3. Re:Celestia by loki1978 · · Score: 0

      Isnt NASA's Worldwind the best way to enjoy the blue marble data? I would think so

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    4. Re:Celestia by sepelester · · Score: 1
      Or why not here?

      YaWah - Blue Marble Next Generation Viewer, featuring a server presenting 10GB of NASA's images per month of the year through Macromedia Flash. Very much like google maps.

  2. mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:mirror by Brandon+K · · Score: 1

      Because we really couldn't see that in the original post's text. ;)

    2. Re:mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, great! We only have a couple fiber links from Alaska to Seattle as it is, and now slashdot is going to use all the bandwidth.

    3. Re:mirror by Meneth · · Score: 1

      The torrents in http://snowy.arsc.alaska.edu/nasa/torrents/world_b ig/ doesn't work. The tracker says it wants nothing to do with them.

  3. The best troll song ever! by Psychor · · Score: 1, Funny

    It was so good I couldn't bring myself to post it anonymously :(

    "The problem's all inside your head", she said to me
    The crap filter is annoying, I agree
    You can defeat it if you do it logically
    There must be fifty ways to troll on Slashdot

    She said it's not really my habit to intrude
    The sensationalist titles are often misconstrued
    The editors' spelling may be somewhat crude
    There must be fifty ways to troll on Slashdot
    Fifty ways to troll on Slashdot

    Mods are on crack, Jack
    Repost spam, Sam
    GNAA, Ray
    Just set yourself free
    Get a first post, Gus
    You don't need to discuss much
    Hit the refresh key, Lee
    And get yourself free

    Goatse.cx Tex,
    Widen the page, Dave
    Stephen King's dead, Fred
    Just set yourself free
    Change the article text, Gus
    You don't need to discuss much
    BSD's dead, Lee
    Just get yourself free

    Although it grieves me to see Zonk in so much pain
    I post "I fail it!" and then start to smile again
    Netcraft confirms that Wikipedia explains
    About the fifty ways to troll on Slashdot

    She said why don't we both karma whore tonight
    Thinks about your breathing, you'll begin to see the light
    She poured hot grits down herself and I know she was right
    There must be fifty ways to troll on Slashdot
    Fifty ways to troll on Slashdot

    Is it whack, Jack
    Viewing tubgirl, Earl
    Mod up a flame, Shane
    Just set yourself free
    KDE sucks, Gus
    You don't need to discuss much
    Referral link, Lee
    Just set yourself free

    1. Re:The best troll song ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beat man, that's real beat.

    2. Re:The best troll song ever! by waferhead · · Score: 1

      If this IS an original troll (I have no idea) it deserves to be modded UP, IMHO.

      Bravo!

  4. Earth First by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Funny
    Earth First!

    Slashdot Saturn later!

  5. Tip for browsers -- RIGHT CLICK SAVE AS by Work+Account · · Score: 4, Informative

    I suggest a right-click of mouse and then Save As in the browser to save the above-linked images.

    The files are huge and may be Slashdotted soon as well.

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  6. Clarification, or what CELESTIA actually is by Work+Account · · Score: 5, Informative

    The creators call Celestia a "free space simulation" that lets you explore the Universe in 3D.

    It runs on all platforms including my favourite, Linux.

    "Unlike most planetarium software, Celestia doesn't confine you to the surface of the Earth. You can travel throughout the solar system, to any of over 100,000 stars, or even beyond the galaxy. All movement in Celestia is seamless; the exponential zoom feature lets you explore space across a huge range of scales, from galaxy clusters down to spacecraft only a few meters across. A 'point-and-goto' interface makes it simple to navigate through the universe to the object you want to visit. Celestia is expandable. Celestia comes with a large catalog of stars, planets, moons, asteroids, comets, and spacecraft. If that's not enough, you can download dozens of easy to install add-ons with more objects."

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    1. Re:Clarification, or what CELESTIA actually is by glwtta · · Score: 4, Funny
      I'm not getting it: there's no enemy space craft to shoot, no asteroids to mine... my ship doesn't even seem to have any laser beams, or photon torpedoes, or plasma gatlin guns - nothing!

      How are you supposed to play this?

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    2. Re:Clarification, or what CELESTIA actually is by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 1

      ../celutil/resmanager.h: In member function 'typename T::ResourceType* ResourceManager::find(ResourceHandle) [with T = ModelInfo]':
      body.cpp:575: instantiated from here ../celutil/resmanager.h:108: error: dependent-name 'std::map, std::allocator >,typename T::ResourceType*,std::less, std::allocator > >,std::allocator, std::allocator >, typename T::ResourceType*> > >::value_type' is parsed as a non-type, but instantiation yields a type ../celutil/resmanager.h:108: note: say 'typename std::map, std::allocator >,typename T::ResourceType*,std::less, std::allocator > >,std::allocator, std::allocator >, typename T::ResourceType*> > >::value_type' if a type is meant
      make[3]: *** [body.o] Error 1
      make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/csbruce/celestia-1.3.2/src/celengine'
      make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
      make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/csbruce/celestia-1.3.2/src'
      make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
      make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/csbruce/celestia-1.3.2'
      make: *** [all] Error 2

    3. Re:Clarification, or what CELESTIA actually is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Prepare for ramming speed!

    4. Re:Clarification, or what CELESTIA actually is by RexRhino · · Score: 0

      It is your crappy graphics card. Log on to tigerdirect.com for great deals on graphics cards, and much much more! Tell them AFFILIATE_2984274 sent you!

    5. Re:Clarification, or what CELESTIA actually is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The error message suggests that you can make it compile by inserting the keyword 'typename' before 'std::map' in celutil/resmanager.h, line 108. Pity that the original authors didn't get it right, though. :-(

    6. Re:Clarification, or what CELESTIA actually is by palad1 · · Score: 1

      Just shout "Dwarf, send them some LightBalls" while picking up the mouse!

    7. Re:Clarification, or what CELESTIA actually is by TonyZahn · · Score: 1

      If you need your fix, I'm pretty sure Project Xenocide (an open-source X-Com clone project) uses the original Blue Marble data for its Geoscape view.

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    8. Re:Clarification, or what CELESTIA actually is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Earlier versions of GCC probably weren't so picky. Find out what the authors are using and you'll have an easier time of it. Still, you could submit a patch to bring it up to date. GCC 4.0.2 is out! Go wild! :-)

  7. Nice pictures by Barkley44 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Reminds me of this great picture I was emailed a few years back http://www.flickr.com/photos/mmkempe/52260470/

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    1. Re:Nice pictures by cowscows · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I once spent a good bit of time convincing someone that that was a conglomeration of many photos stitched together over time, and not one snapshot taken from the space station. And I though he was a smart guy, too. *sigh*

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    2. Re:Nice pictures by robsimmon · · Score: 1
    3. Re:Nice pictures by Eightyford · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well the earth is flat...

    4. Re:Nice pictures by Eightyford · · Score: 1

      That is one of my favorites too. I got a big map of that with my national geographic(the only timeless magazine in my opinion) a few months back.

    5. Re:Nice pictures by timeOday · · Score: 1
      After watching the movie, I don't think it's a conglomeration of photos, but rather a computer-generated rendition of data gleaned from those photos. To me it looks like a rendition of elevation data, snow coverage, etc rather than photos. I'm going by the color of the water, and the effect of the atmosphere on the horizon... and why aren't there any cities at all?

      The introductory paragraph says the movies are "a visualization of the dataset [] derived from imagery."

    6. Re:Nice pictures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not fooling anyone, we all know you buy it for the saggy spear-chucker titties.

    7. Re:Nice pictures by dumllama · · Score: 1

      I remember that image. It took me a while to figure out why there was a small, bright island to the SW of Japan.

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    8. Re:Nice pictures by swiftstream · · Score: 1

      Not to mention that it always is night everywhere at the same time...

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    9. Re:Nice pictures by cowscows · · Score: 1

      Yes, and those long earth nights are almost always accompanied by a planet-wide cloudless sky.

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  8. DMB seems somewhat appropriate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nine planets round the sun
    Only one does the sun embrace
    Upon this watered one
    So much we take for granted
    So let us sleep outside tonight
    Lay down in our mother's arms
    For here we can rest safely

    If green should slip to grey
    But our hearts still bloody be
    And if mountains crumble away
    And the river dry
    Would it stop the stepping feet

    Take all that we can get
    When it's done
    Nobody left to bury here
    Nobody left to dig the holes
    And here we can rest safely

    One sweet world
    Around a star is spinning
    One sweet world
    And in her breath I'm swimming
    And here we will rest in peace

    1. Re:DMB seems somewhat appropriate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually, it doesn't seem appropriate. unless maybe you're sucking off a GNAA's member.

    2. Re:DMB seems somewhat appropriate by YeEntrancemperium · · Score: 1

      Actually, given how we treat our Earth, this is more appropriate. Savage heat is searing Global warming has begun Mother Earth is reeling No protection from the sun Forest fires are raging While the rivers turn to ice Foolish man creating Mother Nature's cruel demise Hailstorms, tornadoes Cold spells, untimely frosts Heat waves and blizzards Global death's the cost Face the end of time As we plunge headlong towards the day Can't deny the signs When the sun burns red The earth will turn From blue to gray Winter turns to summer Then the seasons disappear No one needs a prophet To explain what's all too clear Oceans overflowing Islands drowning everywhere Leaders wouldn't admit it Now they're crying in despair Hailstorms, tornadoes Cold spells, untimely frosts Heat waves and blizzards Global death's the cost Face the end of time As we plunge headlong towards the day Can't deny the signs When the sun burns red The earth will turn From blue to gray Now rain shall wash away sad remains of man Cities once so proud will crumble into sand Buildings all collapse when all is done and said The guilty ones will die with the innocent... When the sun burns red

    3. Re:DMB seems somewhat appropriate by technoextreme · · Score: 1
      Actually, given how we treat our Earth, this is more appropriate. Savage heat is searing Global warming has begun Mother Earth is reeling No protection from the sun Forest fires are raging While the rivers turn to ice Foolish man creating Mother Nature's cruel demise Hailstorms, tornadoes Cold spells, untimely frosts Heat waves and blizzards Global death's the cost Face the end of time As we plunge headlong towards the day Can't deny the signs When the sun burns red The earth will turn From blue to gray Winter turns to summer Then the seasons disappear No one needs a prophet To explain what's all too clear Oceans overflowing Islands drowning everywhere Leaders wouldn't admit it Now they're crying in despair Hailstorms, tornadoes Cold spells, untimely frosts Heat waves and blizzards Global death's the cost Face the end of time As we plunge headlong towards the day Can't deny the signs When the sun burns red The earth will turn From blue to gray Now rain shall wash away sad remains of man Cities once so proud will crumble into sand Buildings all collapse when all is done and said The guilty ones will die with the innocent... When the sun burns red
      Giberish????? Remember puncuation is your friend. http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php?date=2004-11- 03
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    4. Re:DMB seems somewhat appropriate by YeEntrancemperium · · Score: 1

      Wow, you're cool. They were lyrics but apparently they didn't show correctly.

    5. Re:DMB seems somewhat appropriate by _Hellfire_ · · Score: 1

      Hmm... didn't know Gene Ray posted to Slashdot...

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  9. I hope... by game+kid · · Score: 1

    ...it'll inspire Chris Laurel to work on it again. Fellow makers Dr. Fridger Schrempp and "Toti" have been left largely on their own with the code these days, it seems. It's amazing in any case, and I doubt it'll need any work from Chris for me (or anyone else) to have the new (if at all different) Blue Marble on Celestia.

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  10. Please don't use vulgarities on the site by Work+Account · · Score: 1, Offtopic



    I browse while at work and would appreciate if I didn't have to view cursing and potty-talk on a web site for science/engineering professionals.

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    1. Re:Please don't use vulgarities on the site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      would appreciate if I didn't have to view cursing and potty-talk

      Oh yeah, that'll get them to stop.

    2. Re:Please don't use vulgarities on the site by rock_climbing_guy · · Score: 1

      Welcome to slashdot, my friend. As you will soon see, there are thousands more posts like this one.

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    3. Re:Please don't use vulgarities on the site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be new here.

  11. mirror with my modem by aarku · · Score: 4, Funny

    I set up a 386 to mirror the 22 gigs of data with my 56k modem connection right here. Not too many at once, please

    1. Re:mirror with my modem by iphayd · · Score: 4, Funny

      You must be slashdotted too. I couldn't find the document, then when I did a portscan on you, there were too many security flaws to count.

    2. Re:mirror with my modem by the+real+darkskye · · Score: 4, Funny

      I had similar problems, but after a while I found an awesome porn stash!

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    3. Re:mirror with my modem by Crunchie+Frog · · Score: 4, Funny
      I had similar problems, but after a while I found an awesome porn stash!

      Yeah same, and whaddaya know - the guy has the same 'tastes' as me! What are the chances of that?

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    4. Re:mirror with my modem by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 1

      You're so lucky... A 386 *and* a 56K modem? Your parents must be rich.

    5. Re:mirror with my modem by WhiplashII · · Score: 1

      Woah! I was getting 100 Mb/s on that link! Too bad we both have all the same stuff.

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    6. Re:mirror with my modem by inf0rmer · · Score: 0

      For anyone trying to download the stash; try downloading each body part as a seperate file and then using MS Paint to piece them all together. So far I have eyes, nostrils and hair (not nasal hair though). I'm willing to swap these for any interesting body bits...

    7. Re:mirror with my modem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funniest thing, I guessed his pass in two tries. I think I'll smasz0r iz s1s73m 4 d4t.

  12. Image size limits? by Carnildo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    JPEG and many other file formats are limited to 65,535 pixels in any given dimension. The largest image in this dataset is 86,400 x 43,200. What file format are they going to use?

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    1. Re:Image size limits? by Slashdiddly · · Score: 4, Funny

      What file format are they going to use?

      The file name is world.200412.3x86400x43200.bin.gz

      Clearly they went with the bin format :)

    2. Re:Image size limits? by kidgenius · · Score: 3, Informative

      The previous max res was split into 2 files that you could bring together. One JPEG for the western hemisphere, one for the eastern.

    3. Re:Image size limits? by Azul · · Score: 3, Interesting
      From their readme.pdf:

      the global 500m composites stored in the world big directory are raw binary files with the dimensions 3 x 86400 x 43200 (channels x columns x rows); data type is unsigned byte, with no header. They can be used for direct file access by data processing software (e.g. for subsetting, web-streaming etc.)

      Pretty raw, eh?

    4. Re:Image size limits? by Rootbear · · Score: 3, Informative

      I work in the vis studio that produced the animations and I can tell you that file formats are a big problem with images this size. We usually work in TIFF, and while the TIFF format has no specific resolution limits, it is effectively limited to 4GB per image due to the use of internal 32-bit offsets. The full Blue Marble NG data sets simply don't fit in common image formats. Work is being done on a "big TIFF" spec that includes 64-bit offsets and other improvements that will accomodate much larger images.

      Jim Williams

    5. Re:Image size limits? by XenonOfArcticus · · Score: 1

      Lossless JPEG2000 would be an excellent choice for this.

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    6. Re:Image size limits? by WhiplashII · · Score: 1

      Don't be silly - they just store the image in the recycle bin. You know, so it doesn't take up disk space!

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    7. Re:Image size limits? by EternityInterface · · Score: 0

      Trying .J2K out in Thumbs+ (I know, really professional) I've found it to be really slow.

      Here, an incredible ten 1600x1200 24bit pics average loading time test:
      png = 0.26s
      j2k = 1.64s

      Maybe if there was a "compressionless" option.

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    8. Re:Image size limits? by timeOday · · Score: 2, Funny
      JPEG and many other file formats are limited to 65,535 pixels in any given dimension.
      I wouldn't call that limiting. 64K pixels should be enough for anybody!
    9. Re:Image size limits? by randomblast · · Score: 1

      You traverse the 4th dimension in PIXELS?!

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  13. Sorry but I'm COOLER THAN YOU by Work+Account · · Score: 4, Funny

    Those of us true uber-geeks have IPv6, where localhost is ::1.

    So ha!

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  14. Another mirror by Work+Account · · Score: 1


    here

    Had to do it ;)

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  15. NASA World Wind by Llynix · · Score: 5, Informative

    NASA's open source world viewer project World Wind will have support for next generation Blue Marble on the 20th. In fact developers today got the beta xml with coverage of all thirty six new blue marble layers.

    1. Re:NASA World Wind by Pad-Lok · · Score: 1

      Too bad World Wind is Windows only at the moment. WW2D should run on most Java capable systems, but it doesnt have the same coolnes factor.

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    2. Re:NASA World Wind by Llynix · · Score: 1

      All right, Nowak at World Wind Central has mirrored and created an add-on for NASA's World Wind. You can now easily view the entire next generation blue marble sets on any windows machine.

      Please consider donating so we can continue to provide quality services like this.

      To use simply download the client and the add-on.

    3. Re:NASA World Wind by psyanyde · · Score: 1

      Wow- that was FAST!
      Looks like you guys beat Google Earth on another one!
      This is really nice imagery-
      Just in time for the upcoming WorldWind 1.3.3 http://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/ release, eh?
      Great work- you guys at http://www.worldwindcentral.com/ are amazing . . .

    4. Re:NASA World Wind by mikiN · · Score: 1

      Too bad the link to the add-on download is broken now. Are there any mirrors?

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    5. Re:NASA World Wind by EternityInterface · · Score: 0

      Heh. I happened to skim, so I could of read this a million times without figuring out if you're sarcastic or not. I only have "please consider teaching us about BitTorrent because then donating isn't needed as the service is provided by the people" to add.

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  16. how very appropriate... by gargletheape · · Score: 1, Funny

    a slashdot story about blue balls we're very attached to

  17. Re:Tip for browsers -- RIGHT CLICK SAVE AS by robsimmon · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yup, our server is having issues. Now I'm going to have to spend tomorrow pulling all the 5400 by 2700 and 21600 by 10800 pixel links off ...

    In the meantime, http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/features/blue_mar ble.html has small samples.

  18. Re:I'd like to send this by squidsoup · · Score: 1

    well, I hope they have fast internet connections.

    I personally have always found multi-gigabyte emails kinda annoying.

  19. Impressive... by sanx · · Score: 3, Funny

    We've /.ed an entire planet.

    1. Re:Impressive... by gbnewby · · Score: 3, Informative

      For the geeks: Yes, I'm tuning the Apache server a bit during the /.'ing. Sorry for people who get dropped connections while I do this. I decided to upgrade to the Apache 2.1.8 beta for large file support & a few other features. The server is from ASA Servers, and has three 1.7TB SATA RAID arrays on Western Digital 250GB drives, with dual 2.8Ghz Xeon processors and 12GB of RAM. It's running SuSE 9.1. I put the FTP copy (vsftpd) on one array, and the http + rsync copy on another array. This is a pretty hefty server, but I've been changing tuning (xinetd, vsftpd, httpd and some kernel stuff) in response to traffic to try to keep it handling things. It's lots of fun, and reminds me of my close days with iBiblio, which was a frequent slashdot target.

  20. America Sux! Boo NASA ... oooohhh free space pics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Bunch of hypocrits! You blast America and NASA all week, then leech the fruits of their work??

  21. Another mirror by Eightyford · · Score: 1

    Here's another mirror. There's a really big map, and a wallpaper that I made for personal use. http://eightyford.com/archives/126/

  22. Re:I'd like to send this by Fryed · · Score: 1

    A Hitchhiker's guide reference, and an anti-Bush message, all in one post? Mr. Adams would have been proud.

  23. Re:I'd like to send this by Dante+Shamest · · Score: 1

    Takes one to know one.

  24. Re:I'd like to send this by cnkurzke · · Score: 1

    ... whats all that bullshit with marbles??

    didnt you kids listen in school?
    the world is FLAT!!!

    everything else is pure evil and those images are made right by the devil!!

  25. EarthSLOT by gbnewby · · Score: 4, Informative

    I forgot to mention in the posting: there are several neat
    fly-over navigation programs that can use these images. One
    with a tie to the U. Alaska is EarthSLOT.
    The mirror links include an "earthslot" subdirectory, where
    ready-made flyover files are available. Unfortunately,
    EarthSLOT is Windows-centric :(

    1. Re:EarthSLOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      The University of Alaska has another "fly-over navigation program" called Swath Viewer - http://sv.gina.alaska.edu/ . It is a java applet and reasonably friendly to the non Windows-centric world. It does not have the new Blue Marble dataset in it yet, but does have original Blue Marble.

  26. Torrent toast? by XenonOfArcticus · · Score: 1

    I didn't think you could /. a Torrent, but the tracker is refusing my connections.

    Pull the ftp and http access to the actual files, and leave just the torrents and tracker -- make people HELP you distribute the data, not just plow your server into a smoking heap hot enough to melt any nearby glaciers.

    http://geotorrent.org/ would probably be a good cohort too.

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    1. Re:Torrent toast? by robsimmon · · Score: 1

      Good idea, but we couldn't get the Goddard network admins to give us a port waiver for BitTorrent.

    2. Re:Torrent toast? by XenonOfArcticus · · Score: 1

      UAlaska is doing BitTorrent, but the tracker is unreachable, I'd guess because all of the other traffic is blitzing it. I was recommending they unplug the other traffic and let the torrent do the work.

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    3. Re:Torrent toast? by max99ted · · Score: 1

      Will these files/torrents be back in the near future for public download? I'd love to grab some for my kids and school projects. Thanks, Paul

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  27. Oblig. Karma Whore by grape+jelly · · Score: 2

    Since the given mirrors are slashdotted, here's the obligatory corel cache link:

    http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov.nyud.net:8090/New sroom/BlueMarble/

  28. next generation... by MMHere · · Score: 0, Redundant

    ...server, is what they need. cuz this one is dying.

    Mirros?

  29. Pretty... by eric_foxx · · Score: 1

    When I was a kid, I had a wall-wide mural of Earthrise as seen from the moon. To this day, it is one of the most beautiful photographs I have ever seen. Stuff like this always astounds me. We have spaceships! Someone took a picture of that! How cool! Earth Rocks!

    1. Re:Pretty... by daeley · · Score: 1

      We have spaceships! Someone took a picture of that! How cool! Earth Rocks!

      Well, Moon rocks -- but I know what you mean. ;)

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  30. Photoshop capable? by NMerriam · · Score: 1

    Has anyone downloaded the "big" (non-tiled) raw dataset yet to comment on whether it is accessible through normal image-editing software? Photoshop (and presumably the Gimp) can open raw image data, but whether this particular file woks (and what settings it requires) don't seem to be mentioned anywhere.

    I'd love to wallpaper my office with this image (I have a large 40"x50" version of an earlier 20k x 20k image currently) and would like to do all my adjustments on the original 500m file, then tile it to my own needs.

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    1. Re:Photoshop capable? by XenonOfArcticus · · Score: 4, Informative

      Photoshop: Open As, Raw, select the file, fill in the X and Y dimensions. Number of channels is 3, 0 bytes header. I haven't been able to get one of the files yet, so I can't tell you if you need to turn on interleaved or not, but I suspect you will want interleaved.

      We (3D Nature) packaged up the old BlueMarble data, along with 1Km terrain data for the whole earth (GTOPO30) on a product called Ultimate Earth for our landscape visualization software, Visual Nature Studio. It's pretty cool to be able to pull up an area, add your own data to what we provide, and have a ready-made planet visualization.

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    2. Re:Photoshop capable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Xenon! Sweet to see you on here, I still remember 2001 Peaceful Valley, or was it Plesant Valley, I forget.

      Anyway, the BIN files are BIP. But I don't think Photoshop can open them, I believe PS has a 29,999x29,999 size limitation (of course I do not have the latest version, so it may have changed).

    3. Re:Photoshop capable? by NMerriam · · Score: 1

      Photoshop CS2 can work with files up to 300k x 300k now! It's great, but of course few file formats support that size. Raw files, TIFF, and the new PSB (Photoshop large document format) do, thanks for mentioning it though since I looked it up in the help file -- I worried for a minute that it might not open a raw file of that size.

      3 more hours until the file is finished downloading for me, I'll post here to let folks know if it works :)

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    4. Re:Photoshop capable? by NMerriam · · Score: 1

      Just a follow-up note to anyone interested, the BIN files load perfectly in Photoshop CS2 (they will be too large for earlier versions of Photoshop) once you type in the dimensions and channels. They do take 2.37GB of memory just for basic pixel data, so be warned! My scratch disk went to 10GB just from opening the file.

      The max memory Photoshop CS2 can address is 3GB, so even on my 6GB image editing system it is pretty swap-disk intensive. Reminds me of doing print work back in 1993 :)

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    5. Re:Photoshop capable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WHAT A RIP OFF. Ultimate Earth
      THIS SOFTWARE COSTS OVER $700(US0)
      BUT YOU HAVE TO REGISTER TO EVEN SEE THE PRICES.

      NOT the kind of post that should be made here.
      Ultimate Earth http://www.3dnature.com/ue.html Bad move Bad site

    6. Re:Photoshop capable? by YaWah · · Score: 1

      Yes, the raw images are byte interleaved. We opened the raw images in photoshop and saved them as ZIP compressed TIFF files. Luckily the blue oceans compresses very well so that each image fits inside the TIFF 4GB limit. You can view the TIFF files using our interactive Flash Viewer here: http://www.yawah.com/bmng/

    7. Re:Photoshop capable? by YaWah · · Score: 1

      Yes, the raw images are byte interleaved. We opened the raw images in photoshop and saved them as ZIP compressed TIFF files. Luckily the blue oceans compresses very well so that each image fits inside the TIFF 4GB limit. It takes ages...

      You can check out the TIFF files at full resolution using our Interactive Flash Viewer.

  31. Extensions.-Links. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To the fool that modded the above offtopic. Didn't you notice there's NO torrent link. I swear this place gets stupider every year.

    1. Re:Extensions.-Links. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yea, starting with you. stupider isn't a word, stupid!

  32. Obligatory POV-RAY by AFairlyNormalPerson · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How could someone post a giant, hires image of the earth and NOT post an obligatory pov-ray "Earth marble" in space?!


    // GENERATE WITH
    // povray +W640 +H480 +A0.3 -J +Q11 +R6
    #include "textures.inc"
    camera {location 8 look_at 0}
    light_source { -50 color rgb 1 }
    light_source { 50 color rgb 1 }
    sphere
    { 0, 4.5 pigment {image_map {
    jpeg "world.topo.bathy.200405.3x5400x2700.jpg"
    map_type 1 interpolate 2 } }
    finish {ambient 0.4 diffuse 1 specular 0} }
    sphere {
    0,1 texture { Starfield scale 1} scale 200
    no_shadow hollow on }

    1. Re:Obligatory POV-RAY by robsimmon · · Score: 1

      'cause I use Electric Image? (and the render is halfway down the page)

    2. Re:Obligatory POV-RAY by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      POV rocks! I've been playing with it on and off since version 0.5 in 1992. In fact, that was the sole reason why I bought a 486DX instead of the cheaper SX.

      Ah, the memories.

      Back around 98 or 99, I used POV-Ray and image maps from NASA, etc, similar to Blue Marble and sticker stock to print up realistic-looking planets and some of the larger moons for my son's bedroom wall (they're still up too). At the time, I couldn't find a good enough and high-resolution enough image of Earth (of all places). A year or two later I was finally able to find a big Earth... and now I could make one the size of my house, if I wanted to! :-)

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  33. Re:NASA Linux by ethanrider · · Score: 2, Funny

    Linux is *not* user friendly, and until it is linux will stay with >1% marketshare.

    Let see

    5% > 1%

    50% > 1%

    99% > 15

    Works for me.

    If > and confuse you just remember:
    the alligator is hungry so the mouth opens towards the bigger meal.

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  34. Firefox can't find the server at earthobservatory. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    great cache, good job nobody relys on it

  35. Re:I'd like to send this by ikkonoishi · · Score: 3, Funny

    Umm the images clearly show that the world is in fact flat. These new fangled "globes" that you see in places of "science" actually compress the north and south edges of the world in order to fit the world map on a sphere.

  36. Re:I'd like to send this by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 1

    Please do not speak to me, as I'm obviously posting "troll" and "flamebait" messages, simply using a quintessential specimen like George Bush as an example of a "self-absorbed, egotistical asshole".
    The moderators are correct: these people do no need, nay, do not care about the whole "you are here" thing.

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  37. no wonder NASA needs a huge budget by Mastadex · · Score: 0

    no wonder NASA needs billions, we keep slashdotting thier servers and driving thier ISP costs through the roof. thats not to mention all those server they have to replace from unexplained fires.

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  38. Re:NASA Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, and shift keys are right below Caps Lock and Enter.

  39. Video cards by mattr · · Score: 1

    This is the best reason yet to get a faster computer with a nice video card. It would be nice if someone had a wiki for linux people to mention their experiences. Seems many cards get glitches in zooming. See WorldWind video card page (for windows but maybe same issues on other linux software when zooming this data?) Speaking of which if anyone has a recommendation for a distro / windowmanager / xserver / video card / machine configuration for this type of thing now would be a good time! I remember when SGI used to sell a souped up PC for large dataset visualization (not that it sold I think..). My guess would be a motherboard with huge internal bandwidth and I/O, some big SATA drives, a couple gigs of RAM, and the latest video card by (who?)..

  40. Dave Matthews Band because... by TheStonepedo · · Score: 1

    no tree-huggers ever wrote folk songs about the Earth before Dave Matthews Band, and none will ever do so well.

    Riiiiiiight.

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  41. Re:Tip for browsers -- RIGHT CLICK SAVE AS by adam1234 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dude, this is Slashdot. We're going to parse the URL list using a Perl script and then run wget -i on the resulting output, saving the files to the directory /usr/share/marble and using chmod to set appropriate permissions for our machine's users.

    Right click save as. Pfft.

  42. put that in google maps:-D by EMR · · Score: 1

    Having that data in a google maps like interface would be a really nice way to navigate it.

    1. Re:put that in google maps:-D by psyanyde · · Score: 1

      Get the plugin for Nasa Worldwind http://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/.

      It was just released at WorldWind Central http://worldwindcentral.com/ today!
      This is an application that will download the images as you want them, and you can fly around, zoom in from outer space and back out again - all kinds of stuff.

      WorldWind is an open source program developed by NASA and the community.

  43. Re:That's an original Blue Marble image by Bastian · · Score: 1
  44. TFW file for Blue Marble Next Generation by Rahga · · Score: 3, Informative

    Assuming there is or will be a 86400x43200 TIF of JPEG file, you can use a TFW of JFW file that reads like this in your favorite GIS app:

    0.00416666666666
    0.00000000000000
    0.00000000000000
    -0.00416666666666
    -180.00000000000000
    90.00000000000000

    I've got a bundle of these from the last Blue Marble at this page.

    I do work for Mud Springs Geographers, which have an app called AWhere that support loading this sort of image as a map layer. I'm not into crass commercialism, but unfortunately, Slashdot won't let me post just that TFW because of the lameness filter. You'd think they would make excpetions for anciend user ids or excellent karma, but no..... :)

    (Okay, I've removed the whitespace from the snippet above, but keep in mind that most TFW files have the decimal point positioned 20 spaces from the left edge.)

  45. Re:I'd like to send this by prichardson · · Score: 1

    Congrats on getting an interesting mod for that one. My hat is off to you and your clearly FUNNY post.

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  46. this photo is depressing! by burden123 · · Score: 1

    I was about to say this:

    The northern hemisphere is obviously deep in the winter as the snow line during summer is about 500-1000 miles more north of where it shows in this picture in North America anyway. It would be great if they could use another year to capture the whole thing in summer.

    When i realized this:

    Such a thing is impossible! I'm sure the sad fact is that during summer North America is covered in a thick vale of pollution. Blue earth my ass.

    1. Re:this photo is depressing! by WhiplashII · · Score: 1

      Why would there be more pollution in the summer? The only noticable pollution that I ever lived in was in the mountains in winter, during an "inversion". Essentially, a heavy cloud layer would form about 200 ft up - and no air could escape through it, so all the pollution was trapped in the valley with the people.

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  47. What are "Torrents" ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does this mean a lot of people are going to visit the NASA site so it will be offline?

  48. Torrents by mjbkinx · · Score: 2, Informative
    FYI: The tracker doesn't seem to be able to handle it -- also, the torrent for the BIG one from November is missing in the directory.

    Anyway, thanks for making this available and for all the bandwidth :)

  49. Re:Deforestation?!?! by belg4mit · · Score: 1

    Yes, because grass and soybeans are purple. In addition a square
    kilometer is pretty damn large, let alone 8x8 km. In many places
    cutting is done in patchwork for one reason or another.

    http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2005/04/07/googl e_maps_/
    http://perljam.net/google-satellite-maps/id/1201/B razil/Rondonia//Deforestation_in_Brazil/

    There are others but feel free to do your own due diligence.

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  50. Blue Marble NG in World Wind by NowakPL · · Score: 2, Informative

    Get the addon here. It is only 160KB as all data is downloaded on demand.

  51. ya but does it plug into google maps? by Dan9999 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    the subject read my mind

  52. Try to find out... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    where Tunesmith and Proserpina hid the Ringworld.

  53. torrents anyone? by Viper_Viper · · Score: 1

    Someone please post a torrent with the super uber high quality of 500 meter/pixel images.

  54. My favorite from Blue Marble by not_an_otter · · Score: 1

    This one has been my desktop background since time immemorial. It's a 39.6MB TIF, play around with the settings to convert this really nicely, JPEGs floating around on the web don't look anywhere near as nice. http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/images/1438/land_ligh ts_16384.tif

  55. KMZ for boring people using boring app ;) by NowakPL · · Score: 2, Informative
  56. Tracker refuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://snowy.arsc.alaska.edu:6969/ now claims that the "requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker". DHT doesn't help much either. :/

    1. Re:Tracker refuses by PhraudulentOne · · Score: 1

      Go to GeoTorrent I'm getting 400KB/s and there is only one other leecher (29 seeders). I will seed for the rest of the day.. I can only upload at 11Mb/s though because im on wireless ;)

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    2. Re:Tracker refuses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the old Blue Marble (1km per pixel). The new version is 500m per pixel and has other improvements too. A torrent would be really nice. Why do so many webmasters insist on burning their whole upstream bandwidth by offering direct downloads which don't work for users because the link keeps breaking down? Create a torrent, put up a seed, limit its upstream to what you can or want to handle and everybody's happy.

    3. Re:Tracker refuses by fhmiv · · Score: 1
      Based on the size of the Blue Marble archive offered up at Geotorrent.org, I am pretty sure it is an older version than the ones being announced in this article, and also at lower resolution. Just for comparison, the 500m resolution imagery can be downloaded as one big file per image type, or you can nab sections at a time, where the earth is divided in to 16 areas. The area I'm trying to download, C1, is 407.5 MB.

      I am also having trouble with the tracker refusing my connections. Please post if you find working torrents for the 500m resolution imagery!

  57. Soviet Union economy by danila · · Score: 1

    Interestingly, this Earth image is a great illustration to why Soviet Union was having great difficulties competing with other countries.

    The common answer is "communism is evil" or "planned economy is inefficient", but I suggest you look at the above image and find the Soviet Union there. Can you guess what substance the whole territory of the USSR is covered with? Hint: it's white, cold and tasteless.

    Yep, you probably guessed right, even if you rarely see it in your country. Because you are so forunate to have warmer climate, the agricultural productivity in your country is probably several times higher, the investments required are several times lower.

    Interesting what an innocuous satellite image can reveal...

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    1. Re:Soviet Union economy by ElNeo · · Score: 1

      Sweden, Finland and Norway are also covered in show, but I whould not claim that any of these countries ha ve problems competing.

      I whould say that the number of cell-phones/patents/your-favorite-tech-index-item is more important then how many tons of corn you can produce every year.

      A tough climate forces people to be inovative. If you can't kick a palm tree to get your daily dinner, but have to don your thermo elk survival suit and drill 15 holes in the ice to put out your fishing net - you will have an initiative to improve/invent tools.

      By the way - the picture must be taken mid winter, e.g January, given the amount of snow on the pictures.

    2. Re:Soviet Union economy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think the Soviet Union ever had a hard time feeding itself, except for that little famine during the revolution, which was a man-made catastrophe. In fact, the only countries that actually are affected by famines anymore are communist countries and atrociously poor african ones. (Cuba and North Korea are so spectacularily rich, right? And China's experiment with a market economy is a huge failure, right? Face it, like it or not a free-market economy is the only practical way to run an economy due to the sheer number of decisions that need to be made. Someday we might be able to make a command economy work by putting some humongous computer in charge of it, but a small group of humans will never be able to run an entire economy.)

    3. Re:Soviet Union economy by danila · · Score: 1

      First, don't forget that Norway and Sweden have Gulfstream. This map doesn't reveal it as well (BTW, it was indeed taken in January, see the filename), a map with isothermes might show it better that those countries still have a better climate. Second, the situation is obviously complex and there is more than one factor (the climate) influencing the economic condition of the country, but it is clear that having long cold winters is a strong negative factor.

      And while you are right that high-tech is less influenced by cliamte than agriculture, you must realise that it was agriculture that allowed the build-up of wealth over many centuries. And that even cell-phones need to be built somewhere, so you need to consider construction costs. And that people need heating in winter (an average Moscow apartment needs $2000-worth of fuel each year for heating).

      Also, you example is invalid. Innovation today is not stimulated by tough climate. Regardless, Soviet Union was very innovative (what other country built both a space shuttle and a supersonic passenger jet?), it just had very bad starting conditions.

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    4. Re:Soviet Union economy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If having a nice climate is all it takes, then Africa should be a effing paradise, wich it is certianly not. Actually a theory is that a colder less hospitible climate helps spur innovation and creativity.

    5. Re:Soviet Union economy by danila · · Score: 1

      Famine in Cuba? That's news to me. In fact, North Korea is the only socialist country affected by famines now - about 98% of people suffering from hunger live in non-socialist countries.

      Cuba isn't rich, but its people are well-fed, healthy, live long and have quality free education (not to mention other perks coming from living in a socialist state). And North Korea would fare much better if the US was not constantly threatening it (it isn't easy to protect itself from a global superpower all by itself).

      And the single most important characteristic of China's experiment is the huge influx of investment from abroad, attracted by cheap labour. If a comparative amount of investment (per capita) was made into the North Korean economy, it would grow just as well.

      There is no evidence that central planning is a bad system. In the Soviet Union it worked spectacularly well, turning a backwards agricultural country with poor climate, no industry and illiterate population into the world's superpower with top-notch science, every conceivable industry, including high-tech ones, educated well-fed healthy people living in equality without poverty and in comfort, being able to work in good conditions, develop themselves intellectually and culturally and otherwise enjoying themselves. All that without having media-forced stupidity, consumerism and other ills of the Western society. All of that using internal resources without resorting to exploitation of other countries, like capitalist countries must do.

      If you consider real natural indicators in many industries, they are very telling. The efficiency of Soviet transportation systems, energy system was higher than that in the US. The efficiency of the R&D was higher than elsewhere in the world. Overall the planned system was astonishingly efficient. In 1930s even the Western media (such as Financial Times, Nation, etc., etc.) had to admit that (even though communists are evil) central planning works miraculously.

      Who do you think runs giant corporations? Markets? Inside each corporation is a planning system (i.e. a small group of humans running a command economy). It's only logical to make the next step and make the whole country run according to the plan. And it worked well.

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    6. Re:Soviet Union economy by danila · · Score: 1

      If having a nice climate is all it takes, then Africa should be a effing paradise, wich it is certianly not.
      The rumour has it that it used to be before colonialism. May be if +100 million of Africans weren't tossed into the Atlantic ocean by certain people, Africa would actually be a little bit better off today.

      Actually a theory is that a colder less hospitible climate helps spur innovation and creativity.
      In the past - possibly. But not today. Russian people are indeed considered very creative, but obviously it can only offset the negative effect of the climate, not completely overcome it.

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    7. Re:Soviet Union economy by Raffaello · · Score: 1

      There is no evidence that central planning is a bad system. In the Soviet Union it worked spectacularly well, turning a backwards agricultural country with poor climate, no industry and illiterate population into the world's superpower with top-notch science, every conceivable industry, including high-tech ones, educated well-fed healthy people living in equality without poverty and in comfort, being able to work in good conditions, develop themselves intellectually and culturally and otherwise enjoying themselves. All that without having media-forced stupidity, consumerism and other ills of the Western society. All of that using internal resources without resorting to exploitation of other countries, like capitalist countries must do.

      First human rights - I really doubt that the Czechs Poles and Hungarians (among others) would agree that what the Soviet Union achieved was accomplished "without resorting to exploitation of other countries." Mass murder and repression were also rampant insde the former Soviet union. It was no paradise.

      Second, economics - the problem with a planned economy is that there is no competition, so if the central political directorate gets something wrong, there is no competing firm to offer an alternative. Yes corporations are each mini planned economies, but if one giant corporation makes a bad call, there are others with different plans offering alternatives. In a centrally planned state economy when the planners make a bad call, you're screwed with no recourse. The constant shortages and failures to keep up with advancing technologies in the West were the result of this lack of competition.

    8. Re:Soviet Union economy by danila · · Score: 1

      First human rights - I really doubt that the Czechs Poles and Hungarians (among others) would agree that what the Soviet Union achieved was accomplished "without resorting to exploitation of other countries."
      Well, I would really appreciate if those Czechs, Poles and Hungarians who disagree provide some actual specific facts. What resources or products were extracted from those countries and send to the Soviet Union for free or at artificially low prices? As far as I am aware, there are no such examples and so all the talks about them being exploited is just bullshit.

      Mass murder and repression were also rampant insde the former Soviet union. It was no paradise.
      Not true. There never was mass murder. And repressions are a very complex phenomenon that had its objective reasons. The country was preparing for the War with Hitler and it needed all the resources and all the dedication it could master. Without the repressions we would have seen a Holocaust of Slavs, a horror tens times as that of the Jewish tragedy. Whatever price we had to pay for being better prepared was justified. Whatever price was paid for the heavy industry, for power plants, for railroads, for oil fields was justified. Even several hundreds of thousands of people executed for sabotage and other crimes with some of them being innocent.

      Second, economics - the problem with a planned economy is that there is no competition, so if the central political directorate gets something wrong, there is no competing firm to offer an alternative.
      You simply don't know anything about the Soviet Union and don't understand how its economy worked. What you say is nonsense and is completely unlike how it really worked.

      First, there was no "political directorate". Planning decisions were carefully calculated by large teams of expert economists. The essence of decision-making was the same as anywhere on Earth, because how you decide where to build a railroad is the same in free market and a planned economy. When you calculate how large a factory needs to be and in which city to build it to minimise total costs of the products, you work the same way, whether you work in a capitalist or a socialist economy.

      I don't know who told you this ridiculous version of how Soviet economy worked, but I suspect that it was the Western media and the government propaganda writers... But the truth is much more logical and makes much more sense.

      Planning decisions were carefully prepared and there wasn't much difference, for example, between how Soviet oil companies and Shell planned their operations. The only difference is that the planned system eliminated the inefficiencies of the market, so no wonder that it worked better than the market.

      Yes corporations are each mini planned economies, but if one giant corporation makes a bad call, there are others with different plans offering alternatives.

      And why do you think it wasn't the case in the Soviet Union? There have often been several research institutes developing alternative plans for large capital-intensive projects. Competing design bureaus developed alternative designs for equipment, airplanes, rockets. When competition was beneficial, it was allowed and encouraged. But that competition wasn't driven by profit, but by a grand plan for the better good.

      In a centrally planned state economy when the planners make a bad call, you're screwed with no recourse.
      Why? Can't we just fix the problem? Can't we notice it as it develops and fix it? I don't know any examples where we were screwed with no recourse. I doubt you can you provide any examples...

      The constant shortages and failures to keep up with advancing technologies in the West were the result of this lack of competition.
      What cosntant shortages? That's another myth. The average per capita consumption of many products was higher than in the Western countries. Occassional temporary shortages of some goods are a small price to pay for the greater abundance overall.

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    9. Re:Soviet Union economy by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      Wow, I thought I woke up in an alternate universe when the sun rose in the West this morning. Now I know I'm right.

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  58. Re:Tip for browsers -- RIGHT CLICK SAVE AS by seweso · · Score: 0

    They made the video's iPod compatible!

  59. Postcard! by dzfoo · · Score: 1

    Breathtaking...

    Instead of sending those gold disc with arbitrarily encoded data, we should just make one big post-card with one of those pictures. Of course, the caption should read "From the Big Blue Marble, 3rd rock from Sol -- Wish you were here!"

    I'd bet we'll see an uptake in UFO sightings thereafter.

            -dZ.

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  60. Re:Tip for browsers -- RIGHT CLICK SAVE AS by FirienFirien · · Score: 1

    Can I suggest putting up more normal resolution pictures for those of us who find the pictures cool, but have things like google maps if we want to look closer? I find the images very aesthetic but don't have any use for anything bigger than 1280x1024; while I'm sure there's fun to be had with zooming in and out of very high-res pictures, those of us who have played with earlier satellite imaging programs (especially since with google maps you can see down to 1m pixels in many places) wouldn't mind getting a smaller image - which would also put less of a load on your servers!

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  61. Re:Tip for browsers -- RIGHT CLICK SAVE AS by nothings · · Score: 1
    Torrents seem like the right thing for the large ones, but all the ones I tried earlier today were rejected by the tracker. Not no response from being overloaded, but it claimed it wasn't tracking those torrents at all.

    If other people had that experience, that might have overloaded the direct download attempts.

  62. by 2009? by mSparks43 · · Score: 1

    one step closer to
    ____________________________________
    downloading 5% of entire_world.mdl
    >34 Terebytes per sec - 10 years 6 days remaining

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    YAY!

  63. What, are you 5 years old? by glengineer · · Score: 1

    You've got to be kidding.... who says "potty-talk" ? And if you're at work, why are you surfing the {voice of stereotypical evangelist preacher} ee-YEE-vil internet? {/voice} I'd appreciate not being condecended to.

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  64. Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Am mirroring some of the images / videos at :

    www.chatevnue.com/temp

    Will be there for a few days before I remove them.

    Posted as AC so no karma whore.

  65. Blue Marble in 3D by cabin+dweller · · Score: 1
    Rather than downloading the complete Blue Marble Next Generation dataset, you have several options for simply viewing it in 3D online.

    At EarthSLOT you can:
    - see all 12 months in a 3D viewer similar to GoogleEarth and WorldWind (neither of which have new BMs online yet)
    - use html code snippets to embed a 3D viewer into your own web page
    - download a complete 3D application of all 12 scenes for use on your computer w/o being online (currently slashdotted)
    - use a slightly buggy pure HTML viewer to get 3D perspective of the data using mac/linux/etc
    - use the API to code your own applications with the data
    - see dozens of 3D applications unrelated to blue marbles at much higher resolution (15 meter typ.)

    At GeoFusion you can:
    - See all 12 monthly scenes in 3D at the same time and blend between them
    - see katrina damage in a new way
    - blend between cloud free earth during the day and night

    As far as I know, these are the only two interactive 3D applications currently serving the new Blue Marble data. If you know of others, let me know.
  66. my bad by cabin+dweller · · Score: 1

    Sorry I missed these earlier --

    - A WorldWind BMNG app can be found here

    - A GoogleEarth app can be found here.

    Thanks to WorldWindCentral -- good job, neat stuff.

  67. web-resolution images by robsimmon · · Score: 1

    I've built a page with 540 by 270-pixel copies of each month, some of the ancilliary data files, and links to the 8km/pixel and 2km/pixel files:

    http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/BlueMarb le/BlueMarble_monthlies.html

  68. Flat earthers will love these by Safe+Sex+Goddess · · Score: 1

    I'm really afraid that these composites will give the flat earthers extra fodder to further diminish the teaching of science in our K-12 schools. First they get rid of biology, and now they'll be getting rid of physics!

    --
    Abstinence is a government conspiracy. www.SafeSexZone.co
  69. Blue Marble images with real-time clouds by BigJim.fr · · Score: 1

    Calculated every handful of minutes with cloud cover updated eight times a day, all thanks to the power of Xplanet. The daylight background map is now the Blue Marble monthly map. The current one is automatically rotated in place the first day of each month... Enjoy the realistic seasonal snow cover and the changing vegetation !

    Two resolutions are available :

    800x600 - http://www.ruwenzori.net/earth/earth800.html

    1280x1024 - http://www.ruwenzori.net/earth/earth1280.html

  70. BitTorrents available by gbnewby · · Score: 1
    The mirror at snowy.arsc.alaska.edu is still running, though bandwidth use was throttled because we were overwhelming the UA statewide commodity network connection.

    Meanwhile, we finally have BitTorrent trackers available.

    If you have a big network pipe (OC3 or better) and would like a backdoor way to download the data more quickly (or would like me to push the collection to you), drop me a note. It would be good to get the whole collection out for mirroring, and although many people have retrieved files there have not been too many who were able to download the whole 170GB collection yet.

  71. Lots more bandwidth by gbnewby · · Score: 1

    (I'm replying to the first-showing comment for visibility, since
    this story is already a little old)

    Please visit http://snowy.arsc.alaska.edu/ for
    much faster download links (we redirected the
    traffic to a far fatter 'net pipe). Apologies to
    people who have been trying to get the data, but
    found the bandwidth insufficient. Greg

  72. Lots more bandwidth by gbnewby · · Score: 1

    Please visit http://snowy.arsc.alaska.edu/ for
    much faster download links (we redirected the
    traffic to a far fatter 'net pipe). Apologies to
    people who have been trying to get the data, but
    found the bandwidth insufficient. Greg

  73. A great 3D Earth viewer for Blue Marble and more by coyotetail · · Score: 1
    Try out GeoFusion's GeoPlayer at http://www.geoplayer.com/gateways. It is an web enabled control running in a web page. Only runs in PC/Internet Explorer although they say more platforms coming. You can animate via a slider through the Blue Marble monthly images and fly around with the mouse (the help button will explain mouse navigation).

    The streaming is quite fast (with a good connection) and there are other "gateways" to high resolution Katrina and Tsunami damage imagery. Mars too.