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Gates Donates $15M to Preserve Computing History

Dan-DAFC writes "The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is donating the sum of $15 million to the Computer History Museum in California, according to the BBC. The money is the biggest single gift in the museum's $125 million fund-raising campaign, which is still $50 million short of its target. The funds raised will be used to add more exhibits and educational programs."

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  1. WIth just a few minor alterations, mind you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I took a tour of the museum shortly after this announcement. Bill Gates only asked for a few changes to made following his generous donation.

    Middle Age Clockwork Computer: Invented by Bill Gates
    Punch Card Programmable Computer: Invented by Bill Gates
    Analog Computer: Invented by Bill Gates
    Digital Electronics: Invented by Bill Gates
    Atanasoff Berry Computer: Invented by Bill Gates
    Z3 Universal Computer: Invented by Bill Gates
    ENIAC: Invented by Bill Gates
    EDSAC: Invented by Bill Gates
    Integrated Circuit: Invented by Bill Gates
    Personal Computer: Invented by Bill Gates
    Internet: Invented via a joint effort from Bill Gates and Al Gore

    1. Re:WIth just a few minor alterations, mind you. by dangitman · · Score: 4, Funny

      Gates was later found kneeling in the rain, screaming GOOOOOORRRE!

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  2. Re:Too late for PR stunts BG by USSJoin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Honestly, this is asinine. While you personally might disagree (as many do) with some of Microsoft's business practices through the year, at the same time, one must honestly be impressed with what they've managed to accomplish. Making computing ubiquitous, and easy to understand-- these aren't things to be taken lightly. Yes, things crash, and yes, he stole some things, but I think that most /.ers wouldn't be here if they hadn't been introduced to computers at some point; most people are introduced to computing through Windows. And maybe yes, we move on to bigger and better things, but at the same time, it's nice to have a computer I'd give my grandmother.

  3. In other words... by nmb3000 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The change jar on Bill's dresser was getting full :)

    Don't take that the wrong way. Whatever his reasons (and I believe them honest), you can't help but respect the Foundation. A quick look shows they've donated over $28B and over $1B each year. That's a lot of money doing a lot of good, and is probably better spent than most Government-sponsered projects.

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    1. Re:In other words... by Atario · · Score: 3, Informative
      A quick look shows they've donated over $28B and over $1B each year.
      Uh, no. It says their endowment -- the amount in the bank -- is currently $28B. They are required to donate at least 5% of their assets per year, which, therefore, is currently over $1B/yr.

      Still a boatload of cheddar. Hey Bill! Care to give to the "Atario Solvency Fund"?
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    2. Re:In other words... by citog · · Score: 4, Funny

      I refuse to get on the "but he does some good" bandwagon here.

      I hear that. Getting down off your high horse just to climb up on the bandwagon does seem like a lot of trouble.

    3. Re:In other words... by spagetti_code · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Just to be clear - not all donations have been in cash. Many have been in software which actually costs him next to nothing to provide.

      Further, the whole thing started at the time he got sued by the govt. It was originally a PR exercise.

      Still, it is doing some good work.

    4. Re:In other words... by rtb61 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Oh yes, the endless cry of the corporations, you can't trust the government to spend taxes wisely which is why instead of paying 30% tax they manage to fudge things enough so they only end up "donating" 5% to charities. What is really contemptible, the governments that corporations say you can't trust to spend you tax money are the same ones that the corporations pay to get into power.

      The offensive idea that you can trust a corporation with the future of society when everybody knows that for the majority of corporations, the sole reason for their exisitence is to generate profits for themselves regardless of the cost to society as long as it is legal, or breaking the law causes so little effect it is still profitable to do so or the very worst act of all, using their fiscal influence to alter the laws when the affect upon society is palpable harm but that is okay because they are going to generate extra profits for themselves (well at least senior management gets the opportunity to cash up and brokers and major shareholders get to pump and dump legally).

      If you are unhappy about the way your government is spending your tax dollars become involved in the political process and do something about. Don't expect greed driven corporations to do it for you because they are just doing it to you whilst marketing the idea of political indifference so that you wont become involved and you will let them run your life and all the lives of the people around you for no better purpose than to satisfy the lusts and ego of the very few who actually profit from this deceitful fraud.

      Now really what else would you expect when the story comes out about willie donating money to a computer museum other than, yeah as long as the museum records his version of computing history and says really, really nice things about him and the board of Microsoft, true or not it is still funny, well at least for everyone else apart from willie and his buddies ;-).

      If willie wanted people to say nice things about him he should have focused on doing nice things but no he focused on making as much money for himself as possible and is now attempting to buy a nice reputation for himself with a minor percentage of that money, I tell you what, when he gives all of it away like he said he was going to then I will give him the benefit of the doubt, until then nahh he got the reputation he earned ;-).

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    5. Re:In other words... by arose · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A kernel with source code for everyone.

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  4. Another donor? by DeafByBeheading · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe Jack Thompson will pitch in ten grand...

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  5. That's like oil companies donating money by iamacat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    To preserve the history of species that went extinct because of drilling. Well, at least students will know there were other computers and operating systems before our new worm-infested overlords.

  6. But... by the_skywise · · Score: 3, Funny

    Will it include a copy of CP/M?

  7. Batter up: Mr. Steven P. Jobs by tyrione · · Score: 2, Funny

    Okay Steve, time to shell out the rest to really stick it in Bill's craw.

  8. Will Dos be on display? by ghoul · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Everyone says DOS is a dinosaur and now we have a museum of history so DOS should be on display. But seriously speaking DOS did revolutionalize the personal PC segment so it has its place in history. So for that matter does the first mouse, the first GIMP , the first laser printer but then it might become a Xerox PARC archive instead of a museum of computer history.
                  Anyway wonder how a software can be displayed in a museum. Would they have old computer terminals running DOS on which people can play around or would they just have a number of big boards with writeups abbout the software. A museum of
    computer history seems to me to an unique challenge for a curator.

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    1. Re:Will Dos be on display? by meringuoid · · Score: 2, Insightful
      But seriously speaking DOS did revolutionalize the personal PC segment so it has its place in history.

      No, the IBM PC did that, because it was an open platform, of which any manufacturer could create compatible clones. DOS was just along for the ride. The PC platform succeeded despite DOS, not because of it.

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  9. Computer History Museum website! by 55555+Manbabies! · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm glad their web site is full of tiny pictures with unreadable text. Example here. I suppose I have to visit the museum in person and pay admission to find out what that diagram says. On the other hand, I could probably look at it elsewhere on the web, for free, and with much more information surrounding it.

    1. Re:Computer History Museum website! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Admission is free at CHM. Donations welcome, and membership encouraged, but tours are free. It's an exciting tour through the last century of computing

  10. Re:Too late for PR stunts BG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    You make it sound like Bill Gates is Hitler or something. Queue Gates = Hitler jokes. The Gates Foundation has donated an enormous amount of money to many different types of organizations that helps millions.

  11. Re:Too late for PR stunts BG by Zebra_X · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Big PR stunts? Gates has been giving money for *years* (at least as far back as 1997) to charitable organziations. He's also personally responsible for the gates foundation. MS, and gates in particular has been quite generous. Much more so than other silicon valley tech companies. In fact, i recently tried to find information on charitable giving done by steve jobs or apple but to no avail. It seems that they collected some money for the red cross in the wake of katrina but i didn't find any actual donations from apple. How generous of them to off "free" advertising space.

  12. Bill gates on computing history by sqeaky · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder if they are going to preserve key points and dialogues in computing history like "No one needs 640 kilobytes of ram..."

  13. Scobleized? by spongman · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I wonder if Bill was influsnced by Scoble's video tour on Channel9?

    well worth a look if you can't make it there yourself.

    1. Re:Scobleized? by spongman · · Score: 5, Funny
      influsnced
      No, officer, I'm not under the influsnce.
  14. Re:Too late for PR stunts BG by NoGuffCheck · · Score: 2, Funny

    it's nice to have a computer I'd give my grandmother.

    mod parent up.. its about time someone on /. expressed their dissdane for their own lineage...

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  15. Re:Too late for PR stunts BG by linguae · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I think that most /.ers wouldn't be here if they hadn't been introduced to computers at some point; most people are introduced to computing through Windows.

    I don't know if I'd say that, though. Many people's first experience of computers were with DOS (still Microsoft, I know, but not Windows), Apple II, Apple Macintosh, Commodore 64, Amiga, and probably a plethora of other platforms from the late 70s and 1980s that I forgot to mention. And then we have some old-timers here who were introduced to vacuum tubes, punch cards, IBM mainframes, PDP-11s, and some other ancient stuff.

    Computers have been around for about 60 years now, and they have been in Joe Average's workplace for about 25. I'm pretty sure that except for the youngest generation, most people have been exposed to computing prior to Windows dominating the market.

  16. Re:Only 15 Million?!?! by Virak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know, I hate Microsoft just as much as (if not more than!) you, but until you donate anywhere near that amount, shut the fuck up.

  17. Z-bug and the old ZamJak 72g by milktoastman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder if his money will go to finding and preserving an old copy of the Apple IIe children's game, Z-bug, which was supposed to teach kids to type. That's a bit of computing history I remember, but can't find any references to even on the 'Net. I'm not making that up either, so don't mod me down. It was a piece of my childhood. It probably won't make it to the history of computing, though, because no one seems to remember it. Also reminds me of the ZamJak 72v. At least some people DO remember that crappy platform (http://www.zamjak72g.net./ Mostly just to make fun of, though. I think it was a basement computer enthusiast's attempt to get rich, but who didn't quite have a Bill Gates story in him.

  18. Re:Wow by knoebelsPT · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Target Audience goes to this museum?

    I think not. The visitors to this museum are hardcore computer geeks that are already well aware of their choices and are likely not going to dump their current setups for Microsoft's latest and greatest based on their experiences at this museum.

    Microsoft's target audience is corporate executives and average consumers, not enthusiasts

  19. Re:Only 15 Million?!?! by mriya3 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "64...ehm... 15'000'000 ought to be enough for anybody." Bill Gates, 2005.

  20. School Donations by lappy512 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Bill Gates foundation is pretty nice. Even though I support Linux, they have kept our school computers very nice. For example, we recieve upgrades almost every two years, and we just upgraded almost a week ago to 2.8 Celeron D's in our whole school. When our network was only 10BaseT, they helped us upgrade to 100BaseT, speeding login times. Of course, there are the disadvantages, with MSIE only, and Word, but there's always PortableFirefox and PortableOpenOffice!

    1. Re:School Donations by killjoe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The name of the foundation is Bill and Melinda Gates foundation. How come nobody says "Melinda Gates foundation"?. Bill didn't give a cent to anybody until after he got marrried, maybe it's Melinda that's the generous one. Ever think of that?

      By the way I glad you found a way to circumvent using the software Bill Gates is shoving down your throats. Teach your fellow students the same thing. It would be a shame if your school graduated a generation of children who didn't know anything that wasn't made by MS.

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    2. Re:School Donations by meringuoid · · Score: 2, Interesting
      The Bill Gates foundation is pretty nice. Even though I support Linux, they have kept our school computers very nice.

      The crack dealer at the front gate has the same policy. If Bill can make sure that all schools use his software, then a generation grows up that knows nothing but Office on Windows. A great way to cement a monopoly, ne? Better yet, it costs Bill nothing to stamp out some more Windows CDs for schools, but he can claim his generosity against tax at full market value!

      Isn't it great to be a selfless, altruistic philanthropist?

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    3. Re:School Donations by KrispyKringle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I suppose that's why they give most of their money to world health, immunization, and other projects, right? Because once you get the third world up to speed in terms of things like fresh drinking water and protection from easily curable diseases, they're just a wider user base for Microsoft Office?

      Cut me a break. If the Gates Foundation were about being a "crack dealer" for MS products, they wouldn't spend most of their money on providing basic health in third world countries that neither buy not can even afford Microsoft products to begin with.

      How's that tin foil hat fit, anyway?

    4. Re:School Donations by KrispyKringle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Also, as an addendum, I don't think I made it clear that what you say simply doesn't match the facts. As far as I know (from reading the Wikipedia entry), the Gates Foundation doesn't give any Windows software as part of their donations--they give cash. So your nonsense about pressing more CDs as a tax deduction is, well, just plain wrong.

      Then again, this is Slashdot. Perhaps I was being a bit optimistic to expect otherwise.

  21. Re:Give me a break! by The+Clockwork+Troll · · Score: 5, Funny
    Bill Gates felt the same way, which is why he only donated $15 million.

    Specifically, he was quoted as saying, "$15 million should be enough for anybody."

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  22. kid, I already have a computer history museum by mbius · · Score: 2, Funny

    in the hall closet.

    Maintaining classic pieces in the museum's collection has grown difficult lately, not for lack of funding, but due to a dark and sinister force known as my wife.

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  23. Re:Too late for PR stunts BG by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "I'm pretty sure that except for the youngest generation, most people have been exposed to computing prior to Windows dominating the market."

    There is a bit of a difference between being exposed to computing and actually having one in nearly every home. Don't forget that programmers aren't the only ones that make a living with computers. Most (if not all...) of the 3D artists I know, for example, got their start because they learned skills in 3D at home on their PC.

    In any event, it's silly to deny that Windows hasn't had a positive effect on the number of machines in people's homes these days. I realize it's not fun to think about and all, but honestly, that's just not something to be in denial about.

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  24. good start, now open-source DOS...? by weighn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How about re-releasing MS-DOS 6.22 and MS WfW 3.11 as open source so as to get kiddies in Africa and South-East Asia into computing. You never know, it just may stop those kids from getting hooked on Linux. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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    1. Re:good start, now open-source DOS...? by jurgenaut · · Score: 2, Funny

      You mean, release the foundation of all modern Microsoft OSes as Open Source? I don't deem that very likely.

  25. Re:Give me a break! by ChipMonk · · Score: 3, Informative

    give me half that money and I'll double the size of that collection

    Having gone through the museum twice, I can tell you that the collection on display (less than half their actual inventory) is irreplaceable. The very first Apple I, with Woz's signature, is there. Several other artifacts are similarly unique. You may be able to double the inventory, but you would lessen its actual value in the process.

    However, the funds are not all for the collection. The Museum also needs operating funds, such as very strict climate control (typical for a museum), building maintenance, insurance, and material expenses for cataloging, handling, and restoration of the artifacts. The material expenses are unique, due to the Museum's unique inventory and the stringent policies regarding restoration.

  26. Thats called foresight by geo_2677 · · Score: 2, Funny

    He probably realised that MS Windows may pretty soon be relegated to history.
    Reserving space before its too late :)

  27. Fantastic news, sincerely. by admactanium · · Score: 4, Informative
    i did some pro-bono advertising work for the computer history museum and our agency also had the microsoft account. so we somewhat facilitated this step. if you have a chance to visit the chm, it's really a worthwhile trip. when i met them they weren't in their current building and their "visible storage" was in an old airplane hanger. the new display is quite interesting. everyone stops at the front display for at least 20 minutes looking at all the tech they've owned over the years. they have a lot of very significant machines (including one of the enigma machines).

    they also hold a number of symposia with very significant speakers. i saw a tim berners-lee there. pretty humbling to see the man who is largely responsible for the invention of the internet. try to catch some of their lectures by people who have made history. it's really enlightening.

  28. They could buy this massive eBay collection... by edashofy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is a seriously insane museum collection of computer history. Apparently $45K wouldn't do it, but I certainly think getting saving all these old machines for posterity would be worth it.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Classic-Vintage-PC-Collection_ W0QQitemZ8706273723QQcategoryZ4193QQrdZ1QQcmdZView Item

    (And no I'm not the seller, or related to him/her in any way)

  29. Re:Missing Fellow? by wangotango · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No reason for Gates to be listed in that crowd. Those selected are hard core R&D technical people. Gates isn't a technical type, he is a businessman. Steve Jobs is missing for the same reason.

  30. Re:Too late for PR stunts BG by MysteriousPreacher · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I disagree with the methods of some of the more brutal African warlords but one must honestly be impressed with the quality of the diamonds that come from their mines.

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  31. Re:Too late for PR stunts BG by dangitman · · Score: 2, Insightful
    In any event, it's silly to deny that Windows hasn't had a positive effect on the number of machines in people's homes these days.

    I don't know. It would be just as silly to claim that it is just because of Windows. I thought more people had computers, because they have gotten cheaper, and more necessary for work. Windows makes computers more expensive, and not as easy to use.

    There is simply not the data to prove whether or not Windows had a significant effect on computer adoption. most people were going to end up with one, anyway, whether the software was made by microsoft, Apple, Commodore, Google or some company that exists in a parallel universe.

    Since we don't have access to a parallel copy of the universe, we don't know whether Microsoft helped or hindered computing. Perhaps more people would own computers if today's software and Operating Systems weren't so demanding of resources? Or if they remained network, rather than desktop-centric.

    I have never known anyonw who bought a computer because of Microsoft. Many but in spite of Microsoft. I have known people to avoid getting into computers at all, because of Microsoft, though.

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  32. That's actually kind of nice... by jejones · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...perhaps people will be able to remember when one actually had significant choice in mass-market computers.

  33. Give me $15 million and I'll go on eBay... by digitaldc · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...and I will build you the LARGEST collection of computer junk you could ever imagine!

    I wonder if they have the W.O.P.R. (War Operation Planned Response) computer system?

    Do they also have the M-5 from Star Trek? It sounds like something right up Microsoft's alley:
    from: http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TOS/e pisode/68766.html

    The U.S.S. Enterprise is chosen to be the test ship for the new M-5 multitronic computer system, a computer meant to be able to run a starship without human intervention. Also aboard for the test is Dr. Richard Daystrom, the inventor of the M-5 and an obsessive and unstable individual. Initially the M-5 performs well, but when it decides to destroy a robot freighter, Kirk orders the test canceled. The M-5, however, protects itself and makes it impossible for it to be disconnected. The computer becomes increasingly erratic, a result of Dr. Daystrom's decision to impress his engram onto the computer as part of its programming. Starting a scheduled war games drill, M-5 uses the full arsenal of the U.S.S. Enterprise to attack four other Federation starships.

    In a last-ditch appeal to the M-5, Kirk makes the computer realize that it has committed the sin of murder. Since Dr. Daystrom would be ethically abhorred at such an act, the M-5 is equally penitent and tries to commit suicide by leaving the U.S.S. Enterprise defenseless against a counter-attack by the remaining other starships. At the last moment, Spock and Scott are able to finish disconnecting the M-5 unit. Kirk keeps the shields down, gambling successfully that the attacking ships would not fire on an undefended vessel. Restoring communications next, the fleet is called off.

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  34. Hall of fellows by Bert64 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The computer history museum website has a "Hall of fellows section" Which is described as:

    For over a decade, the Computer History Museum has been publicly recognizing individuals of outstanding merit who have contributed to the development of computing. Chosen on the basis of accomplishment--formal education is not a factor--are nominated by a panel composed of Museum staff, industry peers, and former Fellows.

    At least 10 years must have elapsed between a specific contribution and an individual's nomination in order to properly assess the historical importance of his/her achievements. The contribution must thus be of a foundational nature, one that has strongly influenced the intellectual, disciplinary, or industrial underpinnings of computing.

    Bill gates is not on this list, because he has stifled development more than contributing to it... I imagine part of the terms for this donation will be that he gets listed..

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  35. Gates Donates $15M to Preserve Computing History by webrunner · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... in Frozen Carbonite

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