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German IT Outfit Bans Whining

theodp writes "German IT outfit Nutzwerk Ltd has come up with the perfect solution to whining in the workplace - it's made cheerfulness a contractual obligation, advising those who don't measure up to the prescribed level of jollity in the morning to stay at home until they cheer up. The plan was prompted by a female employee whose constant complaining prompted the other staff to complain about her complaining."

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  1. Movie quote time. by suso · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mayor of New York: "Being miserable and treating other people like dirt is every New Yorker's God-given right."

    1. Re:Movie quote time. by Elrac · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Urination is a God-given right. Our ancestors did it all the time, all over the place, until some religiously motivated tight-assed sourpusses decided it would damage fragile minds to accidentally see a tip of flesh. This kind of irrational repression is what we like to ridicule the Muslims for.

      When a German's gotta go, he gotsta go. There is a reasonable modesty mechanism in place, i.e. I will feel uncomfortable about it and seek out a dark corner, the back of a preferrably windowless, non-residential building, behind a tree or wherever. And I'll be more likely to do this at night than in broad daylight. If I'm out walking in a "public" forest where I'm likely to be seen by joggers, cyclists or families taking a walk, I'll walk 20 - 50 feet off the path and into the woods so no one will see me in profile unless they follow me in. On two or three occasions, I've been in the woods with a girlfriend when she had to go, and she asked me to look out for passersby and shield her from view if necessary while she pulled down her pants and squatted to do her thing.

      As a net result, you'll sometimes see the back of a man standing by the side of the road or up against a tree, with his legs spread and pelvis pushed forward. If you look closely, you may even see a yellow stream. But why would you want to look closely? You accept that the guy apparently had a hard time holding it before finding a proper convenience, turn away and ignore him.

      I rarely heed Nature's call in the open, maybe once or twice a year; but when I do, I don't worry my head about it. By contrast, I understand that doing this in the US may get me arrested on charges of sexual misconduct and branded for life as a sex offender, with incriminating bulletins sent to prospective neighbors and employers. I find public urination as distasteful as the next guy, but... sanity check, anyone?

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    2. Re:Movie quote time. by Elrac · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Public urination has nothing to do with modesty,

      I find your statement hard to reconcile with the fact that public urination, in the US, is met with punishment for a sexual offense. From earlier digging, I remember that in Utah, public urination is a "Class C Sexual misdemeanor".
      it has to do with the fact that noone wants to clean urine off their wall.
      Understood and agreed. But when I think of "public urination," I tend to think of "outside." When I think of "outside" I think of "rain." Guess what? All the constituents of urine are water soluble! Still, it would take a pretty bad urge before I would let go in a residential area.
      Human urine also has some nasty chemicals and if concentrated in any particular area is pretty bad for the enviroment.

      Do you live in the Washington, DC area? Do you know how much arsenic is in your tap water?

      Yes, the salt and urea concentration can make grass turn yellow. And in really massive concentrations (like if you directly pipe a public outhouse into a river), the phosphate can cause algal bloom - just like most fertilizers. Incidentally, I live not far from some small farms. Once in a while, the farmer sprays the strawberry plants with -would you believe?- cow piss.


      Having taken the trouble to research, at least on the 'Net, I take offense at your snotty put-down about Slashdot that's aimed directly at me. Pray tell, which friend told you that urine is an environmental hazard?

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    3. Re:Movie quote time. by miyako · · Score: 4, Interesting

      A couple of years ago I was at a concert with my cousin and a friend of hers (male). The concert itself was in a pretty out of the way location, surrounded for a few miles by wooods and fields and whatnot. When we arrived at the concert the line to get in was pretty long, and he had to pee. Near the parking area there were some woods, so he went into the woods to releive himself. Apparently a police officer followed him for some reason (The cop said he thought he had gone back there to do drugs before the concert), but anyway he went in far enough that standing at the car right at the edge of the woods, and having seen the general direction that he walked, I couldn't see him. A few minutes later the police officer was leading him out in handcuffs. He was charged with and conviced for a sex crime. He was forced to sell his house and move because he could not live within so many feet of a school, and is also now for the rest of his life a registered sex offender. Has to register with any county he moves into, alert the neighbors, etc. This was his first conviction for anything too btw (never even had a parking ticket AFAIK), so it's not like he was a habitual offender.
      So yes, I know someone who was caught peeing and is now branded a sex offender and had his life ruined because of it.

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    4. Re:Movie quote time. by dajak · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, the salt and urea concentration can make grass turn yellow. And in really massive concentrations (like if you directly pipe a public outhouse into a river), the phosphate can cause algal bloom - just like most fertilizers.

      It also seriously damages centuries-old brick walls for some reason. You can literally piss a hole in a wall. Here in Amsterdam you get fined EUR 160 for urinating in public, because it causes millions a year in damage to old churches and houses. In addition to that home owners obviously hate it when their multimillion-dollar 17th century canal house entrance smells of piss. No connection is made to sex offenses.

      The stupid thing is that foreign tourists often just get warned if they are caught doing it, even though they are the idiots pissing against brick walls. A civilized local will piss into a canal, which is of course more 'indecent' but doesn't really inconvenience anyone.

      Still, it would take a pretty bad urge before I would let go in a residential area.

      Obviously, assuming that it is possible to move out of that residential area or to a waiting queue for a public toilet or toilet in a bar or restaurant in a reasonable time, which is not always the case during festivals. I once made hundreds of euros in two hours charging people EUR 5 for using my toilet.

    5. Re:Movie quote time. by eric76 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Back in the mid 70s, I knew one guy who was arrested by the same cop two Saturday nights in a row for taking a leak on the same telephone pole outside a bar.

      I've wondered whether or not he has to register as a sex offender now.

      Another guy I knew was arrested once for taking a leak at a road side park. His brother, a lawyer, requested a jury trial. The charges were eventually dropped because the prosecuting attorney knew that around here, most of the people who might be selected for the jury would think he had lost his marbles for putting the guy on trial for such a ridiculous charge.

  2. Oh good by geoffeg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Next, they'll require employees to wear flair! 20 pieces "minimum"..

    The beatings will continue until morale improves!

    1. Re:Oh good by yog · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Beatings... heh... ;)

      If the headline were rephrased it would not be that unusual a situation. In the professional working world people need to and want to behave "professionally" toward coworkers and associates. A business can be made or broken over lack of diplomacy among its staff and towards its customers.

      In the corporate world, anyone can be promoted over you. The annoying person in the next cubicle who drives you crazy with his nail biting and overly loud headphones might be your manager next year so you restrain your natural desires to complain to him or about him. If he's not a TOTAL moron, he'll try to restrain his mouth around you, as well. And you both are painstakingly courteous and helpful on the phone to customers and associates from different departments; the last thing you want is someone complaining that you were rude or difficult to deal with, either inside or outside the firm.

      I have heard for years about how the vicious behavior of people in TV stations and the broadcasting industry in general. Not having worked in that field, I can't say for sure, but I know people who have been to a local TV station for some one-off show and heard one anchor say to another, "You f*cking b*tch! Don't you ever cut me off like that again!" and that sort of thing. It's hard to believe that people would put up with each other talking that way but they apparently do.

      The last thing I want to hear when I go to work is someone complaining. Life is not fair. Suck it up. If something's broken, fix it, don't just whine about it. Complaining is a way of broadcasting how powerless one is, as well as an indication of one's lack of initiative and creativity. Let such people go work elsewhere.

      Not sure I agree with "official policy" on whining but the reality is that people self-select away from whining so it's probably unnecessary (and will only damage a company's morale in the long run).

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  3. Four years old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    According to this press release (German only, sorry) this policy is four years old now.

    1. Re:Four years old by Philmeeh · · Score: 2, Funny

      But it's not a dupe so the editors are making progress!

    2. Re:Four years old by mongoose(!no) · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But /.ers don't go around reading those. The article if you take a look at it was written (or at least posted) on the register on Thursday of last week, so you can't blame /. for it.

  4. Cheerfulness as a contractual obligation... by ThaFooz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    is over the top, but there are few things more irratating & detremental to productivity than an angry/whiny co-worker.

  5. dangerous territory by MetalliQaZ · · Score: 5, Funny

    Might as well ban women in the workplace.

    -d

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    1. Re:dangerous territory by jzeejunk · · Score: 5, Funny

      slashdotters don't have women at their workplaces anyway ;) and you being a slashdotter don't know enough about women to make that claim

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    2. Re:dangerous territory by Macgrrl · · Score: 3, Funny

      slashdotters don't have women at their workplaces anyway ;) and you being a slashdotter don't know enough about women to make that claim

      Looks down front of shirt.... Cleavage, CHECK; Breast count equals 2.

      I'm fairly sure I'm a woman, I was when I got up this morning....

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    3. Re:dangerous territory by advocate_one · · Score: 2, Funny
      Looks down front of shirt.... Cleavage, CHECK; Breast count equals 2.

      carefull, there are male slashdotters who pass that check...

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    4. Re:dangerous territory by Macgrrl · · Score: 4, Funny

      Women have balls - we just wear them higher :)

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  6. Don't take my stapler! by mishehu · · Score: 3, Funny

    Obligatory Office Space Quote:

    "Sounds like somebody's got a case of the Mondays"...

    1. Re:Don't take my stapler! by mikael · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Obviously, if everyone has be cheerful, they will also have to look cheerful and demonstrate that they have plenty of personality by wearing badges and colourful clothing, which will undoubtably lead to this conversation:


      Joanna: You know what, Stan, if you want me to wear 37 pieces of flair, like your pretty boy over there Bryan, why don't you make the minimum 37 pieces of flair?

      Stan, Chotchkie's Manager: Well, I thought I remembered you saying that you wanted to express yourself.

      Joanna: You know what, I do want to express myself, okay. And I don't need 37 pieces of flair to do it.
      [flips off Stan]

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  7. Sued FFII by slashflood · · Score: 4, Informative

    The same company that sued the FFII.

    1. Re:Sued FFII by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not only did they sue FFII, they also registered the domain yaho.co.uk to generate advertising revenues (a fact they now try to suppress), they built sites with anti-semitic content to show up in respective search results, are highly supportive of software patents and generally sue everyone in sight who disagrees with their views.

  8. would be cool if...... by free+space · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I was allowed to stay at home as long as it takes to become happy before going to work ;)

  9. Like my Dad used to say: by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Enjoy yourself or I'll beat you!"

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  10. What if... by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What if people start complaining that they don't have the basic right of complaining?

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  11. Plagiarism by Lord+of+Ironhand · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Let me complain for a minute and point out that it was the Reg, not "theodp" who wrote that blob of text, contrary to what the post suggests.

  12. Heard this name before by Aim+Here · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nutzwerk - aren't they those litigous fuckpigs who censored the FFII website for telling the world that this company, despite being held up as the model company for software patents, was actually guilty of all sorts of ethically dubious internet practices?

    I think the management there has control-freakery issues...

  13. Service Level Agreement by totallygeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I know a company with an SLA that states something to the effect that a smile must be given in a face to face meeting before any work is to be performed.

  14. An Official Complaining Day by trollable · · Score: 2, Funny

    Okay, so now you can complain at home. That's great, maybe not so enjoyable but at least you're still paid. Well, how many complaining days will have per year? Also, wouldn't be cheaper to have a national complaining day? So every one could complain at the same time. My 2 cents ;)

  15. But... by ksandom · · Score: 4, Funny

    But WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYyyyyyyy???? ;-)

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  16. These guys are evil! by alba7 · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you can read German, see http://www.heise.de/newsticker/search.shtml?T=nutz werk

    In any case, mod parent up.

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  17. I guess these would be banned? by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Despair, Inc.

    A rule-of-thumb in software development: If a place has too many Dilbert cartoons on cubicle sides, have an exit strategy. If it has none, RUN!!!

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    1. Re:I guess these would be banned? by Null+Perception · · Score: 2, Funny
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  18. I'd like to whine about this article... by eyebits · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...but I am under contractual obligation to not whine.

    I can imagine that being under contract to not whine will mean that people will come up with creative ways to whine without really whining. Reminds me of a conversation I had last night. I am recent transplant to The South and was told that there were phrases in use here that didn't mean what they really mean. For example, if you tell someone something like "I just inherited a million dollars" they will reply be saying "That's nice." ...which really means F*ck you.

    So, image code words and phrases will be created to allow whining without breaching the contract.

  19. Re:Cheerfulness as a contractual obligation... by ThaFooz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because overly cheery co-workes are almost as irritating.

    I mean, telling people not to whine to the point of being unberable is one thing. Telling them to pretend to be cheery all the time is another.

  20. Re:Cheerfulness as a contractual obligation... by xstonedogx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    but there are few things more irratating & detremental to productivity than an angry/whiny co-worker.

    One thing more detrimental is an angry/whiny co-worker (or employee) who is pretending to be cheerful.

    This really just sounds like management doesn't have the skill or the emotional maturity to actually deal with the problem, so instead, they sweep it under the rug.

    If an employee is angry/whiny, there is a reason. Maybe that reason is internal to the employee. Maybe that reason is the result of something in the work environment. Force the employee to pretend to be happy, and the employee will probably more unhappy. Then you have an employee not working to the best of their ability, who may even be acting out passive aggressively. That attitude can spread just as quickly as overt angry/whiny behavior, and can be even worse to tolerate because it is harder to pin down.

  21. Re:Cheerfulness as a contractual obligation... by Soko · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because emotions aren't something that one can always control with impunity? Besides, no whinging means you can't complain about the PHB or you cow-orker while on the job - you end up being a good little robot. IME emotions - both good and bad - spark thought, and thought leads to greater productivity. I can see a policy of dealing directly with someone who does _nothing_ but complain and then offers no creative solutions, but trying to program happiness? No thanks.

    Soko

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  22. Not just an employee but .... by max+born · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The plan was prompted by a female employee whose constant complaining prompted the other staff to complain about her complaining.

    Wonder why they felt it relevant to point out it was a woman?

  23. Germans Love to Complain by putko · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Germans love to complain about things -- it is part of their culture.

    I saw this in Germany, when I worked their for years as an expat.

    The fact that they had to put it in the contract, rather than just a management directive, is typically German too: it has to be in the contract, so that they can have something to point to when they need to discipline someone.

    As should be clear from their inflexible style, and their lack of focus on the needs of the customer, German customer service is pretty bad. It has gotten a lot better in the last decade though.

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    1. Re:Germans Love to Complain by Elrac · · Score: 3, Informative

      As someone living in Germany who just got back from a business trip to the US, I'd like to make a clarification about customer service.

      Especially in the big cities, customer service people are surly at best and sometimes downright hostile. I recall walking up to a salesperson for some help, and he quickly walked away just as I opened my mouth. I recall the story of my girlfriend, who bought a tail light cover from an auto shop. When she asked them to install it, they refused and told her she could do it herself. That said, when you actually manage to get service in Germany, it's usually competent.

      On my trip Stateside, I was met with nothing but courteousness and friendly smiles. It took me a moment to get used to being called 'Sir' all the time. On the other hand, many of those I dealt with were mind-bogglingly incompetent. Many operated by a fixed set of written rules and were unable or unwilling to deal with any situation not dealt with on their crib sheet. Another anecdote: I mailed the webmaster of an outfit that mails me an informative blurb on a daily basis when I noticed that the 'Subject' line was (all of a sudden) being truncated if that subject was more than one word. Thought I'd give him a heads up so he could fix this embarrassing little bug. Days later, I got a response to the effect of, "we can't do anything about this. Our software always shortens the subject to one word when it's more than one word."

      So between Germany and the US (and from my admittely limited sample space), one gets the choice between the devil and the deep blue sea; between knowledgeable but lazy and annoying service people, and smiling minimum-wage goofballs.

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    2. Re:Germans Love to Complain by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Germany has customer service that you can't get and the US has customer service that you don't want.

    3. Re:Germans Love to Complain by Tom · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Germans love to complain about things -- it is part of their culture.

      It is (and I am a german). But it's also one of the reasons Germany does so many things right and is well-known for its excellent engineering and science. We complain and then we strife to make things better. Many other countries complain less, but even when they complain they don't start doing anything about it, they stay at complaining.

      German customer service is pretty bad.

      Depends on your expectations. Yes, we don't have minimum wage slaves behind the cashiers to bag your groceries. But then again, we don't have a sizeable percentage of our people living off minimum wage, and we all consider that a good thing.
      I've seen more friendly customer service in many countries (I've been around some, on all continents except Australia), but friendly is not always equal to competent. And since most people around here might not be overly cheerful, what they usually are is neutral, not grump or unfriendly, so I'm usually happy with that as long as the service quality is good - and it mostly is.

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  24. I'm so going to work there ... by ta+ma+de · · Score: 2, Funny

    Without the right to complain, sexual harassment can continue unhindered. I will be able to make happy comments about personal appearances related to sexuality all day long. All positive and complimentary; Awesome. May the best skirt win. Bonus points for obvious thongs and diaphanous clothing.

  25. Python quote time by Hope+Thelps · · Score: 5, Funny

    Once upon a time, long, long ago, there lay in a valley far, far away in the mountains the most contented kingdom the world has ever known. It was called Happy Valley, and it was ruled over by a wise old king called Otto. And all his subjects flourished and were happy, and there were no discontents or grumblers, because wise King Otto had had them all put to death, along with the trade union leaders, many years before. And all the happy folk of Happy Valley sang and danced all day long, and anyone who was for any reason miserable or unhappy or who had any difficult personal problem was prosecuted under the Happiness Act.

    Happy Valley

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  26. Ahh the Morning Jerk... by joel8x · · Score: 2, Funny

    I used to work with a guy who was the biggest a-hole until about 2 or three hours after he was in. Problem was he didn't start until 11:00am, so by the time he got to work everyone else was bright and chipper. It got so bad that I even a wrote a song to cheer him up (well, make fun of him really): Good Morning Ali

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  27. Re:Cheerfulness as a contractual obligation... by vsprintf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    there are few things more irratating & detremental to productivity than an angry/whiny co-worker

    Actually, the person most irritating and detrimental to productivity is the cheerful, optimistic sysadmin who continues to do upgrades and apply patches while saying, "It won't affect anything," no matter how many times he has broken everything. I can ignore the angry/whiny people that aren't breaking stuff (well, except when it's my boss :).

  28. Yeah, uh... by Luigi30 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't come into work today. I'm not happy enough. I might not be able to come in for the rest of the week.

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  29. Paranoia... by denubis · · Score: 2, Funny

    Are you Happy Citzen? Remember, happiness is mandatory. Being unhappy is insuboridination. Friend Computer suggests taking HappyTymNow pills -- guarenteed to improve happiness! Unhappiness is a tool of the commie mutant traitors! Be on your guard! Report those who are unhappy, as they could be communists!

    Thank you for your cooperation, Citizen.

  30. And zis ist how vee say goodbye in Amerika! by Y-Crate · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sam's Club/ Wal-Mart fired a woman who would not smile at customers as she handed out free samples of food.

    The reason she did not smile?

    Her face is partially paralyzed and is no longer physically capable smiling at anyone for any reason.

  31. Its a National Problem in Germany: "zu Meckern" by MadCow-ard · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The problem is actually a serious issue in Germany.

    The transition occured in the early nineties in the USA, when the last of real manufacturing went tits up for IT/service jobs (Of course that's tits up too, but that's another issue). In the US, the last of the lifetime jobs went out in the 70's, in Germany, these transitions are just now arriving. And engineering and manufacturing is part of the German image of self-worth, so it hits home particularly hard.

    The problem in German culture is that it is a change in the economy which no one wants to acknowledge, but are being forced to. The last 50 years of a boom economy after the war has now more or less come to a grinding halt. Germany is now evolving, but its eating into peoples morale. The whole country is bitching and moaning, and that in itself is pulling the economy down, not to mention an individual business as is mentioned in this report.

    I know you can't regulate someone's mood but at least they are pointing to where the country should try to go (and if anyone would try to regulate someone's mood, it would be in Germany). I applaud the idea, and laugh at the fact they are trying to regulate instead of inspire. Typcal German (and now I'm starting to "meckern").

    "To Meckern" means to bleat or baa like a goat. This is the term used to describe what Germans do when they bitch and moan. They "blaaaaa" (you need to skip on the gutoral to really get the effect). Anyway, it fits, and its a problem. Really... :-)

  32. Not long enough in Gremany... by hughk · · Score: 3, Informative

    It is exceptionally difficult (and expensive) to fire anyone in Germany once their Probezeit is over. Most Germans carry legal insurance and will quite happily take an employer to court for unfair dismissal even when there are good grounds for doing so. The contract of employment would be seen to be invalid as a worker cannot be obliged to have a good attitude.

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  33. From a recent session of Paranoia by j0nb0y · · Score: 3, Funny

    Player: Doesn't the computer want me to be happy?

    GM: No. The computer *demands* that you be happy.

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  34. Re:Cheerfulness as a contractual obligation... by rlauzon · · Score: 2, Interesting
    If an employee is angry/whiny, there is a reason.

    While I will agree that when a normally pleasant employee is angry/whiny that there is a reason. It's not always true. Unfortunately, I've dealt with cow-orkers who seem to have complaining as their #1 task.

  35. Reminds me of this quote: by trurl7 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The floggings will continue until morale improves.

  36. when was it by seabreezemm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When was it that a legitimate complaint became whining? Those that keep their mouths shut get run over, used and abused.

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  37. Re:Cheerfulness as a contractual obligation... by jcr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't see why they couldn't just fire the whiner. Ability to get along with your co-workers is a perfectly valid criterion of job performance.

    -jcr

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  38. Re:Cheerfulness as a contractual obligation... by Ex-MislTech · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No one should need to leave, and supressing ppls freedom of speech
    in the workplace is just the beginning .

    Soon it will be politically correct to suppress it elsewhere .

    If the person does not do their job that is one thing, but
    for them to be silenced for expressing discontent over maltreatment
    or inequality is a bad idea in my humble opinion .

    Ex-MislTech

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  39. re: just fire the whiner? by King_TJ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's rarely a solution either, but places do that all the time already - despite not spelling out a "mandatory happiness" type of rule. The question you have to ask yourself is, why was this "whiner" hired in the first place, if he or she really exhibits such a constantly negative attitude? Most likely, he/she WASN'T initially that bad! Sometimes, all the complaining is an expression of "the squeaky wheel gets the oil" attitude. Something is wrong and needs fixing, and this is an employee who actually cares enough to keep griping - instead of sitting down, shutting iup, and letting the inefficiency, mis-management, or other issue continue.

    To an extent, I think it depends on the type of job one holds, too. If you work in a customer service capacity, you obviously are expected to get along with and listen patiently to your customers. Not being able to do so means you're not performing your job properly. But in a number of office jobs, being a "team player" is highly overrated. People concentrating on getting their work done instead of chatting it up with all their cubicle-mates are more efficient.

  40. 20 pieces of flair ... by willtsmith · · Score: 2, Funny


    Yes but that's really just a guidline. We're all sure the managers will be pointing out how happy harry has 50 pieces of flair and you must measure up.

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  41. Gender by Nintendork · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "The plan was prompted by a female employee whose constant complaining prompted the other staff to complain about her complaining"

    Other than sexism, was there a reason to point out that the individual is female?

  42. so what? by YesIAmAScript · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I feel sorry for the woman. She shouldn't be discriminated against, she should be able to get any job she is capable of doing.

    But she isn't capable of doing this one.

    Equal opportunity means that. It doesn't mean a free pass for something you can't do.

    I hope they offered her other positions at the company.

    I have to say having RTFA now, it seems like they'll have a tougher time of it than my explanation makes it out. If she couldn't smile, why did they keep her on for a couple years, then fire her? But I stand by my statement that just you don't deserve compensation for being fired for not doing a job that has requirements you cannot satisfy. I mean, it is well known that people with disabilities cannot do every job able-bodied people can. If this weren't the case, there'd be no Social Security money paid to disabled people.

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  43. Stifling emotions by FreakUnique · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm a designer. It's my job to design. To design you must be able to feel what the client wants from talking to them. The client doesn't always know what they want. When they do it's often a big bonus and help. To feel you must have emotions. To stifle emotions would be to stifle the design. If the design was stifled then every site would look the same. Anyways even out of a designing environment, emotions are the result of a cause. Sadness happens because something sad happened like a death in the family, Anger happens because someone did something rude like nearly t-bone you on a roundabout. To effectively deal with emotions you must deal with the root cause. This is where medicine is going wrong. If you're not sleeping right it's usually because something is praying on your mind. Instead of the doctor finding out what is bugging you they shove pills down your throat. Trust me they do this. It's happened to me and the side effects stank worse then a US state full to bursting point with fresh manure. Please excuse the length of this post but that is why emotions are so important.

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