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Child's Play 2005 Launch

It's that time of year again! Child's Play 2005 is underway. Child's Play is a charity run every year by Penny Arcade, the well-known online gaming comic created by Gabe and Tycho. Child's Play is your chance to give to the proto-geeks of the world who not only might not have the chance to play games otherwise, but find themselves sick in a hospital during the Holiday season. Child's Play gives money, games, and toys to children's hospitals in the U.S., Canada, and the U.K.. Gabe's kickoff post was put up yesterday on the site. The Child's Play site itself is chok full of information, including a F.A.Q., letters from former patients who have been touched by games in hospice, and an order form for tickets to the second annual Child's Play charity dinner. This last is a swanky shindig with a silent auction, at which you can bid on one-of-a-kind opportunities like a tour of Bungie's studios or the chance to be in a Penny Arcade comic. Most important, though, are the links on the front page of the site to the various Amazon.com wishlists. There, you can purchase a book, game, or toy to have sent to a deserving kid at one of the participating hospitals. These folks are our folks, and if you have anything to give this is the place to do it. Thanks.

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  1. Let's go! by Southpaw018 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's show Jack Thompson the what for!

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    1. Re:Let's go! by PhotoBoy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No need, Thompson has just bailed the case!

    2. Re:Let's go! by DaFallus · · Score: 2, Funny

      From the supplied article:

      This comes alongside the less publicised news that Thompson received, at his home address, a tube of vaginal lubricant, courtesy he feels, of Rockstar.

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    3. Re:Let's go! by Allison+Geode · · Score: 4, Funny

      from that link:

      This comes alongside the less publicised news that Thompson received, at his home address, a tube of vaginal lubricant, courtesy he feels, of Rockstar.

      best laugh i had all day. thanks.

  2. memories by sedyn · · Score: 5, Interesting
    When I was younger I was a patient at one of the hospitals that is on the list. At the time, I found it odd that they had a gameboy for me to play just before surgery. It's one of the few memories I have of the day (other than waking up while I was still bleeding heavily, but that sticks with a person).

    Now to determine how much money to donate to it...

    As a side note, anyone know anything about get well gamers? They seem to be asking for non-monitary donations, but as I recall, last year Gabe said they weren't allowed to give already used stuff (I could be wrong on this).

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  3. Open-books charity? by dada21 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Do they have an "open books" policy regarding what percentage of donations actually go to recipients?

    A "for the kids" charity organization keeps blitzing my church with videos, and when I researched them I found that they give out less than 50% of their take!

    1. Re:Open-books charity? by Southpaw018 · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's near 100%. You buy the stuff on special wishlists at Amazon, and it's shipped directly to the hospital.

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    2. Re:Open-books charity? by MauMan · · Score: 5, Informative
      Well according to their FAQ 100% of the money given directly to them is goes through, however it does not say what Amazon's cut, if any, is other than their normal profit.

      A: We have partnered with Amazon.com, which hosts a series of "Wish Lists" stocked with toys the hospitals have requested, as well as age appropriate videogames and game systems selected by Child's Play. Simply choose the hospital nearest you from our interactive map at http://www.childsplaycharity.org/ and the toys you purchase will be delivered directly. We also accept cash donations via Paypal to childsplaycharity@penny-arcade.com, which will be split evenly among the hospitals in this year's event. There are no "administrative fees" or other hidden costs associated with giving to Child's Play - every cent is passed on.
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    3. Re:Open-books charity? by fallen1 · · Score: 4, Informative
      Yeah, right on the front page of the site:
      Created by Penny Arcade, no "Administrative Fees" or other nonsense is collected; all gifts and donations go directly to the hospitals for distribution to sick kids.

      Sheesh, at least click on the link for the charity and do some reading before asking inflammatory questions. I know that there are a lot of scammers preying on the "for the children" line for charities (not to mention politics) but Gabe and Tycho have never numbered among them.

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    4. Re:Open-books charity? by Zathrus · · Score: 2, Informative

      it does not say what Amazon's cut, if any, is other than their normal profit.

      Amazon's cut is exactly that -- whatever profit they make on the sale of items. Plus the inevitable "shipping and handling" fees (if any).

      The cash donations go 100% to the hospitals. Gabe, Tycho, and various others volunteer their time to do whatever administrivia is needed. But by having virtually all of it done through Amazon, and shipped directly to the hospitals there really isn't much (the first year they did this they had everything shipped to them... they had to get storage facilities and get a fleet of volunteers to move stuff; but even then it was 100% contribution, with them paying/getting donated the overhead).

    5. Re:Open-books charity? by Tim+Browse · · Score: 5, Funny
      I know that there are a lot of scammers preying on the "for the children" line for charities (not to mention politics) but Gabe and Tycho have never numbered among them.

      Yeah, but Gabe did punch a baby once.

      (In Gabe's defence, the baby was being kind of a dick.)

  4. Ahhh charity... by CupBeEmpty · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now I know what to do with my stockpile of Hot Coffee modded GTAs. There is nothing that hospitalized children need more than that.

  5. Re:US, UK, Canada by Spytap · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My guess? While setting it up the first time, it was just Seattle, then it was the US, now it's the US, Canada, and UK...give them time, this is only the third year...

  6. Open your hearts and wallets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As the father of a cancer survivor, I can tell you that whatever you can give to this charity, and these kids, will have a more positive impact than it ever could have had you spent it on yourself, and will bring more joy and happiness than you can possibly imagine to someone who desperately needs it. The letters on the Child's Play site will give you some idea of that, but know that it's only a pale shadow of what you actually feel when you're in that situation. Donate, and know that you've done something wonderful.

    1. Re:Open your hearts and wallets by tashpool · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Reading through some of the letters and seeing the positive responses like this one put me in the holiday's mood. I just ordered a handful of items through the website. I'm usually a stingy bastard too, but that honestly did feel pretty good.

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  7. Re:hmm... by eln · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not so scary? My brother had a "My Buddy" doll, which looked uncannily like the doll in Child's Play. He saw the movie when he was maybe 4 years old. After several attempts (all unsuccessful) to give the doll to my sister, he eventually ended up leaving it in the closet. He never touched it again.

    If only this charity had existed back then, the doll could have had the opportunity to traumatize another child.

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  9. Gifts of Substance not Fluff by queenb**ch · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was badly burned as child and was helped greatly by the Shriner's, Easter Seals, and St Jude's. This was all treament that parents would have been unable to afford on their own. While I find it touching that you want to give games to kiddies, I think it would be far more beneficial to make donations to pay for actual treatment. The games, toys, etc. are not a life and limb kind of thing. In many cases, the treatment is. I know that it certainly was for me. The doctors at our local hospital wanted to amputate my left hand and part of my arm because I was so severely burned. Yet I sit here, today, typing with both hands thanks to the help we got from people who specalize in treating children with injuries like mine.

    I'd also like to remind everyone to give blood at this time year. It's something that many of the children need as they undergo surgery and its something that's normally in very short supply this time of year.

    Probably not a popular sentiment and I'll probably be modded as a Troll.

    2 cents,

    Queen B.

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    1. Re:Gifts of Substance not Fluff by pat_trick · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Monetary donations are also accepted and go toward the hospitals for exactly this type of thing. At least that's my understanding.

      But you raise a good point--don't just stop at money. Donate blood. Volunteer. Get out there and do a storybook hour if you can. Make a difference.

      Your level 60 Forsaken Warrior can wait a day or two.

    2. Re:Gifts of Substance not Fluff by lmsig · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It could probably be argued (although I'm not qualified!) that it is helpful to treat the whole person and not just the injury. This makes even more sense for children who maybe cannot fully comprehend the situation they have been put into. Certainly a contribution to a childs positive attitude can help them to beat whatever they are there to beat.

      I do agree that we should not forget those other organizations! St Jude's is one charity that I support every single year. However, I still give to Child's Play as well. There is something special (to me) about picking out a couple of games for the kids to enjoy. It seems a little more personal than the check I write to help with treatment.

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    3. Re:Gifts of Substance not Fluff by Declarent · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I know it's just human nature, but not every endeavor can target every solution. This is something that does good, and works, do we really need to criticize it because it's not filling every other need at the same time?

      There are tons of charities that do what you describe, and that helped you out. Does that mean it's wrong to add some additional charity on top of that to help restore some childhood as well as health?

      In addition, this type of donation resonates with gamers, I doubt they could pull anything near this level of donation out by simply collecting money for healthcare like so many other institutions.

      I support both the Shriners and Child's Play because they each provide for distinctly different parts of a child's wellbeing.

    4. Re:Gifts of Substance not Fluff by (A)*(B)!0_- · · Score: 3, Funny
      "Probably not a popular sentiment and I'll probably be modded as a Troll."
      You think that suggesting that people donate blood is not a popular sentiment? Wow. You're a troll alright, one making tired karma grabs. I wouldn't have been annoyed if you had just said, "Donate blood too!" because it is a good idea but you wrapped around that statement this idea that you're the only one to ever have thought of this and everyone else thinks donating blood is a bad idea. Stop pretending to be female. Stop whoring for karma. Just stop.
    5. Re:Gifts of Substance not Fluff by BushCheney08 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Your level 60 Forsaken Warrior can wait a day or two.

      I read that as "level 60 Foreskin Warrior." Same thing I guess. He can wait a day or two, too...

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  10. Re:US, UK, Canada by Southpaw018 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When the PA guys did the first Child's Play, it was almost a spur of the moment kind of thing in response to a newspaper column written about violent video games. They had absolutely no idea what they were getting into, and were utterly shocked when they hit $10,000. They finished that first year with over $110,000. This isn't an organized charity organization, this is two guys frontlining an army of gamers and geeks for a good cause. As another reply to your comment says, just give them time. :)

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  11. Re:US, UK, Canada by Browncoat · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Child's Play isn't for poor children -- it's for sick children in hospitals.

    Children in India, Africa and South America need medical care and food above a PlayStation 2. That said, I understand that since the organization is Penny Arcade, they are doing this charity as a twofold purpose:

    1) To give to children
    2) To promote the idea that games are healthy for kids and offer education, not violence

    The second reason is because there is a lot of criticism over the gaming industry and this is one way that PA can approach the subject with actions, not just words, and help needy children.

    Kids in the US, UK, Canada, etc. who Child's Play is geared toward are getting the medical care they need -- the problem is, many of the parents of those sick children might be seeing all of their income go towards medical bills and basic expenses such as food and utilities.

    They might not have enough money leftover for a good Christmas. PA steps in and helps a little bit. Yes, toys and games are material and can't be as valuable as clean water and food for children in India and Africa. But it's about evaluating what these countries need. Kids in India and Africa need medical care more than they need toys. Kids in the US and UK in these hospitals are already getting that medical care. What they need is a little happiness during their illness.

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  12. Re:US, UK, Canada by James_G · · Score: 2, Insightful
    This is not an "Insightful" comment. If anything it's a fairly subtle "Troll", but I'll give the benefit of the doubt.

    Just because someone else may have a greater need doesn't mean people shouldn't help out those that have a lesser need. If you follow this logic, people would only donate to, say, earthquake relief in Pakistan, or hurricane relief in Lousiana. Just because there are people out there who have a greater need doesn't negate the fact that there are others with a need as well.

    The tiny P-A team is doing far, far more than most people ever do, and the theme they picked reflects their interests - ie, showing the world that gamers aren't the rabid church tower snipers people like Jack Thompson make them out to be. If that's not right for you, don't donate to them.. but don't criticise them because you think there are people who are more deserving.

  13. Good Cause by th1ckasabr1ck · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I've given to this charity each of the last few years - Not only does it give a child something he might not otherwise have been able to enjoy, it also makes me feel better about myself and lastly is more ammunition for use against the Jack Thompsons of the world.

    I can remember visiting my grandmother in the hospital a year or so back, and while waiting for her to wake up I took a walk around the hospital and found a group of kids sitting in a recreation room all playing games and having a great time. It's a phenomenal way to keep these kids happy while going through tough times.

    Anyone want to go in half with me for a PS2?

  14. There are poor kids here too by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 3, Interesting

    And you know? You can only care so much, fix so much. You can't take the burden of the whole world on your shoulders. Nor can you, or should you, ignore a problem somewhere, just because there's a worse problem somewhere else. For example we should not stop giving food to soup kitchens in America until all the kids in Africa are fed first.

    Also, there's a matter of making sure that the donations get to the intended recipiants. In a stable, first-world nation, that's pretty easy. I'd venture to say 99.9% of all Child's Play gifts go where they are supposed to, and the small fraction of a percent that don't are mistakes, not thefts. In Africa? Well try arranging that. That's always been a massive problem with aid over there. You drop off tons of food, only to have it seized by a local milita, and this is when the UN and governments do it and they can actually back their position up with guns, if they so choose. PA, well thy'd send shit there and just hope it got where it was supposed to.

    There's also the matter of trying to do things others aren't. There already is aid going to Africa, lots of it. It's not enough, but as I said it's also due to reasons of it not getting where it's supposed to. But the point is, if you want to give aid to Africa, there are ways to do it. However this market, toys for hospitalised kids in teh states, seemed to be totally neglected. So they started it up. Rather than try to duplicate the effort of others, they started something new.

  15. Is it possible to make a donation... by iapetus · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...so that they don't send a copy of Spyro: A Hero's Tail to an already-sick child? That's just cruel and unusual punishment...

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  16. They better watch out... by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 3, Funny

    Jack Thompson might show up dressed in a santa suit and green fur and try to steal all the toys.

  17. Re:This is not charity.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do you also believe that all charity is essentially selfish because those bastard charitable people feel good performing their god damed charitable acts?

    The truth is that there are millions of things that Penny-Arcade could do that would attract a greater readership; creating a highly efficient charity that helps sick children is probably the most selfless one with the lowest personal gain. I recognize that charitable acts make for good PR, but do you think the people who need the help (or benefit from said chaitable act) really care that it improved the image of the person/company that did it?

    The fact that they're a very popular website, and that they take part in this so called 'self-back-patting' is what actually makes this charity possible; the attention that they generate actually causes thousands of people who don't normally donate money to do so because they like Penny-Arcade and they like the cause.

  18. Re:US, UK, Canada by Skye16 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't necessarily think you're wrong, but I do think your comment is misplaced, with regard to childsplay.

    This was a spur of the moment thing they started before Christmas a few years ago. I remember reading the newspost - they were pissed that gamers were always shown as a bunch of demented teenagers running around with trench coats and black-tape pentagrams on their social studies book covers. They wanted to show these condescending media pricks what the gaming demographic actually is like.

    And then they made $110,000 in, what, 2 months? Just for donations for the Seattle Children's Hospital (I'm not sure if that's the name, but it's the children's hospital in the seattle area, I believe). Games - not just video games, but board games and coloring books and crayons and whatever-it-is that kids play with. The response was staggering.

    It was after this year that the letters started rolling in. Parents of children in these children's hospitals. Now-grown-up children who visited these hospitals. I highly, highly recommend you read the letters yourself. If you're not choked up at the end of it, then I posit the notion that you're a cylon. Or a heartless monkey. Your call.

    Letters concerning childsplay

    My favorite.

  19. Troll? No way. by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 2, Funny

    You do yourself a great disservice. You understand the real meaning of Christmas.

  20. I hate to feed the trolls... by supersocialist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...but it ought to be said: anonymous charity doesn't set an example, and greater overall good is achieved by encouraging others to contribute. Do you really think humility is more important than helping more children? Is helping people wrong if you benefit as well?

    Now I'm not intimately familiar with Gabe and Tycho's financial situations, but this I do know: they're comfortable enough to throw down $10,000 to embarrass Jack Thompson. That may have been all their givin'-away money for the year, but let's assume it isn't, and in fact, they have $100,000 squirreled away to donate anonymously. Good deal for those kids, huh?

    Except during their first year, Child's Play pulled over $110,000 and it was hardly organized at that point. I'm having trouble coming up with a concrete total for their second year, but anybody who follows the strip/newsposts can confirm they did a hell of a lot better than the first run, and they generated a lot more money than they could have donated on their own. Kobe Bryant might be able to personally compete with their totals, but comic strip artists don't make quite as much money as so-called sports heroes ... who I suppose are doing all their charitable work on the down-low (or on the wrong end of a community service sentence).

  21. For God's sake... read the content by Gruneun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your comment:

    While I find it touching that you want to give games to kiddies, I think it would be far more beneficial to make donations to pay for actual treatment.

    Gabe's comment:

    These hospitals obviously receive plenty of donations year round but what we learned is that the money they get for the most part is spent on things much more important than toys. Things like medicine and equipment are a bigger priority than say Crash Bandicoot.

    These Kids need toys though. They need games to play and crafts to make in order to take their minds off their situations. Something as simple as a Game Boy can make the stay in one of these Hospitals much more bearable for a kid. That my friends, is where we come in.


    The fact of the matter is that most people that read PA aren't going to donate money to a charity simply because Gabe or Tycho mentions it. This, however, is a gift that many of the readers can connect with. You give someone $50 and you have no idea where your donation was spent. You give someone a Gameboy and you know that somewhere, in some hospital, a kid is playing a video game because you cared enough to get involved.

    My Dad has a picture of some dirty guys with chainsaws and shovels that he feels sums up his civic organization. An elderly lady in the community had a stream that backed up several times a year and flooded her backyard and basement. Instead of reaching for their paychecks, so she could hire someone, they got their tools, showed up the next Saturday, and cleared out the area. Problem solved.

    Anyone can write a check and pat themselves on the back, but no amount of money is going to solve every problem. It takes a special person to see a specific problem, create a solution, and take the initiative to implement it. That's exactly what the PA guys are doing and they're doing it extremely well.

  22. Not Just Games by giantsfan89 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah... Children's Hospital in Oakland, CA (my mom used to work there) also needs 30 copies of the best of the Hanson's Live!!!

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  23. Re:US, UK, Canada by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm a huge fan of penny-arcade and I admire them a lot for doing what they are doing. However, why(1) is it that they pick three of the countries in which children would be most likely to be able to afford gameboys etc. themselves in? I appreciate that there are lots of kids in US, UK and Canada who are having rough lives but(2) I am sure that there would be poor children in India, Africa and South America that are in far greater need(3).

    1) Because they live in the USA, near Canada, both former colonies of the UK.

    2) But you don't think they have it hard enough to deserve chartiy.

    3) Yes, they have greater needs: Food, clean water, peace. When they have reliable electricity, they'll want videogames.

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  24. Re:This is not charity.. by hcob$ · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ..it's a PR exercise. They'll sell x more shirts and other merch because of the free publicity this shit generates. Charity should be anonymous, not plastered all over a hugely popular website in a grandiose display of self-back-patting.
    Perhaps it's a PR exercise. Perhaps (more likely), that PR and the PA name attached to the charity is what truely garners the massive donations required by this undertaking. YES, they sell their own branded stuff. Yes, they do make money on ads. But you know what. Why don't you try and anonymously help the hundreds(if not thousands) of children by yourself. Oh, or better yet, throw that magic switch of yours that turns off human greed and turns on human giving.

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  25. Not Slashdotted? by R2P2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Child's Play site isn't slashdotted yet. That means either a) they've got a really good server, or b) Slashdot readers are a bunch of cheapskates who don't care about charity. I know what my vote is...

  26. Re:Question not on FAQ Page - by audacity242 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Having done recreation therapy at a large hospital, and been in charge of numerous things you'd expect to get stolen (VHS tapes, DVDs, craft supplies, a GameGear and games, etc.), you'd be surprised at how RARELY things get stolen.

    Most of the stuff stolen from our hospital was stuff that wasn't going to adversely affect patients -- a package of gauze here and there, the staff microwave, etc.

    -Jenn

  27. Re:Give by CheshireCatCO · · Score: 2, Funny

    Am I allowed a say in who gets hurt? 'Cause if so, I'm all *over* this action. I have a list drawn up and everything.

  28. Re:This is not charity.. by Astin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Did you click on the link? Strangely enough, the site for Child's Play has no ads, no links to Penny Arcade, no mention of "buy our shirts" or anything else. It's a separate site that focuses on the charity alone. Sure, there's pictures of Gabe and Tycho, and the e-mail addresses are their PA ones, but that's about it.

    Also, can YOU donate $350,000 alone? I don't think they can either.

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  29. Hahaha! by dmatos · · Score: 3, Informative
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