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Nintendo Puts Emphasis On Parental Control

Gamespot is reporting that Nintendo will allow parents to control what games can be played on the Revolution based on game ratings and other factors. From the article: "The password-protected system will let parents set which rating categories are acceptable for their children, and prevent the system from running any software outside the approved range. The system is based on the Entertainment Software Ratings Board's industry standard ratings, and each game's rating will be encoded on each Revolution disc. Nintendo says the system will be instituted on every Revolution console worldwide, presumably utilizing the local ratings system of each region."

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  1. A little late. by skyman8081 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Xbox has had this feature in it from the start. It just didn't get much use, for obvious reasons.

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    1. Re:A little late. by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 4, Interesting
      It just didn't get much use, for obvious reasons.

      Because there weren't any fun rated-E games made for the xbox?

      Actually, that wasn't meant as a flame or troll. I don't have an xbox but I've heard that kind of stuff about it. I'm asking because I don't know and you said there were obvious reasons it didn't get used. Is this what you were talking about?

      I can imagine this being a great way for Nintendo to attract more adult gamers without losing those who think Nintendo systems are great for families.

  2. Now there is a good idea by FidelCatsro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually put the responsibility Squarely at the feet of the parents , no fobbing it off to the government to pass legislation or even letting the "MORAL PANIC " groups start a witch burning .
    Though I don't know how many parents will actually bother to read the Manuel and discover about this feature , or how quickly the child will find a way to reset the defaults .

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    1. Re:Now there is a good idea by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Though I don't know how many parents will actually bother to read the Manuel and discover about this feature , or how quickly the child will find a way to reset the defaults ."

      I'm more worried about fuss over whether or not the games were rated properly. Part of me wants to be optimistic that this sort of control does take a lot of the headache out of the equation, the other part says ppl will expect 'safety' that cannot be realistically attain so they'll bitch bitch bitch and sue.

      I hate being torn on this issue. On the one hand, I think that parents could use a little more help in working out what content the games, on the other hand I don't want to do that at the cost of vigilance. The latter issue I wouldn't mind so much, but NOBODY is willing to admit they didn't do something right with their kid. Man is that a taboo.

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    2. Re:Now there is a good idea by rholliday · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As always, this comes back to parents having some vigilance. There were parental controls on the cable box at my house. I figured out how to reset the password. My parents figured out that the password was reset. I figured out that non-naked TV was better than no TV, at least until I could go to a friend's house whose parents didn't check on such things.

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  3. Good Idea by csbrooks · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a game programmer as well as a parent, I think this is a really good idea. I think the public thinks that game developers want kids to buy all the violent or inappropriate games they can, but it's not true. People don't realize how many adult gamers are out there. Developers don't need or want kids to play violent or sexual games.

    1. Re:Good Idea by Somatic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yup. One of the biggest excuses parents have for their children watching R-rated movies, and doing other things kids aren't supposed to do, is that they can't watch their kids 24 hours a day. Well, that password will watch their Revolution 24 hours a day. I like it. It gives people one less reason to complain about the game industry.

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  4. What you really need... by xenocide2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    is non-parental control. I wonder how much less greif there'd be in online games if the Mature audiences only recommendation was followed.

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    1. Re:What you really need... by Frodo+Crockett · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wonder how much less greif there'd be in online games if the Mature audiences only recommendation was followed.

      Before entering the game, please answer the following multiple choice questions to verify your age:

      1. '0wngae' is properly spelled:
      A) '0wnage'
      B) 'pwnage'
      C) '0wn4g3'
      D) That's not even a fucking word!

      2. Girls are:
      A) Gross
      B) 4 teh sexx0ring!!!1
      C) Not real
      D) Not at all interested in me or my awesome gaming skills.

      3. GNU/Linux is:
      A) 4 teh haxx0rs!
      B) OMFG WINDOWS IS BETTAR!
      C) Full of SCO's intellectual property...give it back!
      D) A free computer operating system.

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  5. Re:ESRB.... :( by MoreNoiseThanSignal · · Score: 3, Funny

    I would let my kids play most things that might get an "M" for violence, but not an "M" for drugs or sexual content.

    if that isn't sarcasm, i find that outright hysterical.

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  6. Re:ESRB.... :( by csbrooks · · Score: 5, Funny

    playing a violent videogame DOES NOT MAKE YOU A VIOLENT PERSON.

    Please stop yelling. Why are you so upset? Hey! Hey stop HITTING ME! Oh no! It's happening again! SOMEONE MAKE HIM STOP!

  7. Re:so essently a video game version of the v chip? by ReverendHoss · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I may just be overly pessimistic here, but I don't think Nintendo intends this feature to get used. If someone starts screaming at them that one of their "overly violent" video games caused their son to... I don't know, jump up and down on the family pet turtle... Nintendo could reply:

    "How awful! We're very sorry that this violence made it through the hardware lock-out we have in place to let parents control this sort of thing. Your machine MUST be defective. Oh, wait, you WEREN'T using the lock-out? Even though we broadcast it as a feature on the front of our box, in the packaging, at initial start-up, on the instruction manual for the console, on the box of each game, and in the instruction manual for each game? Er... right. We'll let our lawyers take care of this."

  8. The question is... by Ozymand+E.+Us · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...will parental control really help? I'll illustrate with an example. To stop us from watching TV, our parents would lock the TV up with parental control. Naturally, my brother and I began an intensive program of password cracking. Using intelligent brute-forcing, we cracked it on the fourth try. The number? 4444. Another example. My school locked its computer (yes, singular- there were onyl 120 students) with an administrator password. It took 2 minutes to crack it- we just rebooted into safe mode and changed the passwords. As long as kids are more tech-savvy than adults, "parental control" is a joke.

    1. Re:The question is... by oahazmatt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Whether it is a joke or not is irrelevant. This is Nintendo playing a very good game of CYA. Parents have the option of setting these limits, and as long as Nintendo provides the tools and instructions on how to use them, they can find their way out of any potentially dangerous situations.

      "Those parental controls that are installed, and referred to in the manual... did you use those to keep little Billy from playing our Rated-M games? Either of those games? No? You didn't bother setting a password? Not our fault."

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    2. Re:The question is... by vertinox · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Personally, when I was 10 I wouldn't have tried to get my parents to buy me a rated-M game (if they had the rating system back then). In fact, I'd probably be happy that I could blame my parents and their parental controls if my friend came over with a rated-M game and was unable to play it.

      I dunno... I was exposed to allot of x-rated material and violent media as a kid (playing Doom and watching the spice channel etc) but it didn't harm me one bit as turning out to be a psycho.

      Actually, I tend to be more adjusted with the opposite sex than most people that were sheltered as kids.

      However, I do recall my parents were blunt and upfront to me about sex and breaking the law so I was fairly educated of what not to do.

      Your kids will do things you don't want them to do. They will probaly see things you don't want them to see, but its more important that you educate them so that they can deal with situations when the "real life" crisis errupts.

      Teen pregnancy, drug use, and violence will affect a teen way more than any movie or video game will if they don't know how to handle themselves when faced with a critical choice that will affec them for the rest of their lives.

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    3. Re:The question is... by 88NoSoup4U88 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      ...will parental control really help? I'll illustrate with an example. To stop us from watching TV, our parents would lock the TV up with parental control.

      My parents were actually -there- to kick me outside and the TV never got turned on before 7 o' clock.

      How's THAT for parental control. Don't need no fancy widgets or passwords : Just parent(s) that are actually checking up on their kids once and awhile.

  9. Re:so essently a video game version of the v chip? by FidelCatsro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wouldn't say that is pessimistic , more that is exactly to the point . Rightly so , Nintendo cover their own backs and also give parents the power and responsibility to control what content their children have ,Quid pro quo .

    Nintendo may not intend it to get used , but if it is well label and explained then the fault rest solely with the parent (bar any bugs ,or the games developer if the software is not tagged properly )

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  10. WHOAH! Hold up, there! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As a shoddy attorney who makes his fame and fortune blaming the gaming industry for society's ills, I must strongly protest anything that puts power and responsibility in the hands of other parties.

    Who can I sue if the parents do a poor job raising their children? That's right, either the child or the parents. They don't have any money! We must keep all the responsibility where all the money is: centralized, in the hands of corporations. Decentralized authority only serves to keep the money away from me, a fine, upstanding lawyer, and hell of a guy.

    Sincerely,
    Jack Thompson

  11. Ratings after publication? by meowsqueak · · Score: 4, Informative

    How is this going to work for countries like New Zealand where we have our own ratings that are determined after publication? It can't be encoded on the disc for obvious reasons, and games are sometimes re-rated if published in Australia (e.g. they don't have an R18 rating, but NZ does. R18 games in Australia are banned. R18 games in NZ are restricted sale).

  12. Adult Titles? by triso · · Score: 3, Funny

    I didn't realize there were adult titles available for Nintendo systems. Or is this just in case someone, Microsoft or Sony, mayhaps, releases "Harry Potter Does Hermione," "Yugioh's Big Score" or "Mario gets High?"

  13. Like all security features by thesnarky1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Its only as good as you use it to be. My XBox media center (yes, modded) has a "parental control", you just hit 'x' and accept that its a high level. Same for my roommate's (unmodded) PS2. Put in a high rated DVD, and whomever the first person to turn on the system is, sets the password.

    Now, if you give a kid this for christmas, who's more likely to be the first to turn it on?

  14. Re:ESRB.... :( by tprime · · Score: 2, Funny

    Honestly, playing a videogame that involves sexual content DOES NOT HELP YOU GET LAID. If that were true, I'd probably be...... Maybe I should just stop there..

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  15. Another good idea by Polo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...Limit the amount of time and/or time of day when games
    can be played.

    If the game won't work at dinner time/homework time, that would
    be wonderful :)

    1. Re:Another good idea by Red+Flayer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not to troll, but I think it's better to have your kid(s) understand that you are setting the limits, that you are enforcing them as well.

      It's important that they learn to make the right decision, and not have automated restrictions on their behavior control them... otherwise, what happens when the restrictions are removed?

      Although, since constant monitoring is neither possible nor desirable, there's got to be a way to limit their time. My kids use a windows box, perhaps timed access for each userid? Anyone know of any free solutions for this?

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  16. Password input? by Bega · · Score: 3, Funny

    When you input the password onto Xbox Live with the ABXYLR buttons, how will you enter the parent password onto the revolution? Rotate it around, throw it in the wall, punch and slash?

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  17. I'm not sure about the others... by Kuukai · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...but the PS2's parental control system has a universal reset password clearly printed in the manual. Now call me crazy, but I think more kids read these manuals than parents. I have fond memories of my dad going crazy trying to set up the NES.

    I strongly doubt any parental control system will be particularly "stronger" than the PS2's either. People forget passwords, especially when they only use it once on Christmas day. Unless Nintendo wants a lot of dead boxen out there, there'll be some sort of back door, so the system won't be very deterent to the determined, and by "determined" I mean "taking three seconds to Google it".

    But seriously, why would anyone want this feature to work anyway? Parents presumably buy their kids games, or at least live in the same damn house. Paying attention to what your kids are doing will always be more effective than trying to regulate it with some machine.

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  18. Yes, there is. by MeanderingMind · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is there any explanation for it that doesn't make the game industry look either absent minded or greedy?

    Having been a child in those days, I believe I can answer this question.

    The answer is yes.

    Parents, even now, will have their own movies. Being adults, they would have adult movies. These aren't movies for junior, these are movies for mom and dad.

    However, kids being kids, they'll find some way to reach you movies if they want to (barring you locking them up in a safe). Making it important to have some way to keep kids from playing inappropriate DVDs on the PS2, as they are very likely to be lying around the house.

    Until recently, very few gamers were parents, let along parents of children who might play games. Beyond the whole issue of parents buying M rated games for their children, there are now parents who want to play M rated games. However, they would rather not let their kids do so. Having a parental lock is important to these people.

    The parental lock is also useful for non-gaming parents, but the non-greedy reason for its lack of appearing before now is as above.

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