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Pictures by Hive Mind

nofrance writes "A very interesting little experiment where multiple viewers get to select whether to set a single pixel to black or white, to help build a picture. All pictures can also be viewed as animations over time, often showing just how close the picture got to finished before returning to something closer to static."

164 comments

  1. Done! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ten thousand pixels every second. That's why the server is glowing red.

    1. Re:Done! by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

      Multiple viewers get to impatiently send multiple HTTP POST requests to the server, to help build a server failure. All server responses can be viewed as timeouts after some time, often showing just how close the server got to finishing before returning something closer to static.

  2. animations by Phroggy · · Score: 1

    The animations aren't working for me in Safari - it looks like it's showing all the pixels spread out in a single horizontal line, which is then animated.

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    1. Re:animations by blueskatz · · Score: 1

      I got the same result using Opera. Couldn't get it to load at all when I later tried it in Explorer.

  3. Good job training! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I helped build a picture of a lamp. Maybe I can get hired by Amazon!

  4. No static here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Just a blank screen. I don't think I want to see what /. would do to that experiment anyway.

    1. Re:No static here by Jamu · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't think I want to see what /. would do to that experiment anyway.

      Me either. Seeing goatse once is more than enough.

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    2. Re:No static here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seeing goatse once is more than enough.

      If that picture doesn't scare the gay out of you, nothing will.

  5. slashdotted already? by Gunark · · Score: 0, Redundant

    that was fast

  6. I got a picture... by CycleMan · · Score: 5, Funny

    The universal picture of the Slashdot logo: 404.

    1. Re:I got a picture... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're saying you like most everything about Slashdot except that stories get posted at Digg first? WTF does that have to do with anything?

    2. Re:I got a picture... by dgatwood · · Score: 1
      That's funny. I thought it was 403....

      Either that or "Move Along."

      :-D

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    3. Re:I got a picture... by MasterPi · · Score: 1

      yeah slashdotted already, he put up a custom overload message for us... we should atleast click his ads once or twice =)

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  7. pixelfest by ceejayoz · · Score: 5, Informative

    Pixelfest is cooler.

    1. Re:pixelfest by Xzzy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That is pretty cool. I did something of a similar bent a few years back, though with different goals. I wanted to see if people were capable of participating in an art project without being asshats.

      http://web.archive.org/web/20021011144257/http://t ru7h.org/society/

      Short version is, they couldn't. There were some cool things a few people did (that link is one example), but it was always done by one person and some scripts, rather than a group.

      Don't have it up anymore, the way I stored the data was pretty inefficient and was too expensive in terms of CPU time to keep available.

    2. Re:pixelfest by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

      Interesting link thanks :)

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    3. Re:pixelfest by Sheepdot · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And it has a history. (Takes a while to load: in Flash)

    4. Re:pixelfest by ceejayoz · · Score: 1

      Yep.

      A few people spent a week or two writing PENIS, if I remember correctly.

    5. Re:pixelfest by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      It was probably due to the poor choice of medium. People these days are used to seeing Art in the medium of feces or urine. Perhaps a better selection would have served you better.

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    6. Re:pixelfest by inio · · Score: 1

      Not sure if the apple logo was me, but the covers and the WTC image were.

    7. Re:pixelfest by aywwts4 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe they need per pixel moderation, and then meta moderators.

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    8. Re:pixelfest by Vintermann · · Score: 1

      Judging by the animation, it got along pretty well until some idiot with a script set it up to put random pixels everywhere.

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    9. Re:pixelfest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      daoc mid/morgan ftw

  8. Hmm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe the readers of Slashdot could be allowed to select, say, a "subject" or a "verb" for the opening line of an article? That would be 31337.

  9. Interesting concept. by OgreFade · · Score: 0, Redundant

    We are borg. Welcome to the Hive.

    1. Re:Interesting concept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "We are borg. Welcome to the Hive."

      Enjoy your stay. You can just leave that biological and technological distinctiveness anywhere.

  10. part of the first wave, woo by spudwiser · · Score: 4, Funny

    i changed a pixel. then it died. sure answers that question(mark).

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    1. Re:part of the first wave, woo by Potato+Battery · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nice going, spud. You went and busted the picture. If it ever comes back, be more careful where you put the next pixel.

      Art is a fragile thing.

    2. Re:part of the first wave, woo by lakin · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sure your not just playing minesweeper by mistake?

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    3. Re:part of the first wave, woo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure your not just playing minesweeper by mistake?

      Are you sure you were not playing Minesweeper by mistake?

      There are enough grammatical mistakes in your sentence to shame a middle-schooler.

    4. Re:part of the first wave, woo by Poltras · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but I had prior art on this pixel!

  11. I have one thing to say...and pay attention... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    because I'm not repeating it:

                  .

    1. Re:I have one thing to say...and pay attention... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MOD PARENT UP, mods, and read the article - or at least the summary. Note the single black pixel, represented by a period. It's a joke.

    2. Re:I have one thing to say...and pay attention... by BushCheney08 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Damn! And I thought my new LCD monitor was flawless...

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  12. People working together... by dada21 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...what percentage of them are trolls?
    We once tried to use about 300 windows in a high rise to display a picture using lights. What a fias o getting people to follow directions.

    This is interesting as the image progresses quickly.

    The human scanner, 1 person per pixel.

    1. Re:People working together... by idonthack · · Score: 1

      Sounds interesting.
       
      Who are "we"?
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    2. Re:People working together... by dada21 · · Score: 1

      A long dead group of 3D animators back when 3D Studio ran in DOS. I owned a render farm that put out about 50 frames per day, haha.

      I can't remember the name of the video output board that replaced my single frame recording deck. Something PVR, hmm. Ahh, memories.

    3. Re:People working together... by AJWM · · Score: 1

      I can't remember the name of the video output board that replaced my single frame recording deck. Something PVR, hmm.

      Perception PVR, perhaps? We had a bunch of those for generating tapes from stored clips. I eventually redesigned the system to store the clips as DV and used DV-to-analog (PAL, as it happened for that project, but we tested with NTSC too) converters.

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    4. Re:People working together... by dada21 · · Score: 1

      It doesn't sound right, was there a name before Perception?. I remember the picture on the box was of a VCR monster eating a tape. It came in a huge box that was very thin (maybe an inch and a half) with a cardboard sleeve with that image. The software was terrible and didn't support sound until the Win-version was released.

      Maybe it was DPS, hmm. Memories, either way :) I remember entire weekends blown when the tape deck ate the tape before the PVR.

    5. Re:People working together... by dada21 · · Score: 1

      It was the Perception PVR, good memory! It was only 10 years ago that we purchased it, I can't believe how far PC video has come in just a decade. Scary.

    6. Re:People working together... by AJWM · · Score: 1

      Yeah, DPS Perception PVR. There was an optional daughter board to capture video. The thing was a huge card, with a built-in SCSI controller for the video drive. We had a couple of dozen for the tape farm, along with 20 modified VCRs with serial controllers. Hosted on P166s with 64M RAM running NT4, we used them from about 1997-8 to 2001-2.

      For what we were doing with it, nowadays I'd probably just use a modest graphics card that had a composite video output. (Actually, nowadays I'd forget tape altogether and go straight to DVD).

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    7. Re:People working together... by rd4tech · · Score: 1

      ...what percentage of them are trolls?
      Well, the average for slashdot is 1.24%

    8. Re:People working together... by MyHair · · Score: 1

      We once tried to use about 300 windows in a high rise to display a picture using lights. What a fias o getting people to follow directions.

      I always assumed building maintenance had to run around and turn all the lights onn and off when I see such a design in a MNF city or some other night sport event.

      It definitely can't be the office people. I've seen their restrooms. They can't even flush or aim. I've seen evidence to suggest they can't read, either. No way they could collaborate to draw a light picture.

  13. Slashdot? by merkhet · · Score: 5, Funny
    The picture turned out to be a picture of the front page of slashdot?

    Oh right... their servers just died...

  14. Fear the Slashdot Hive Mind by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
    > " Pictures by Hive Mind"
    >
    > A very interesting little experiment where multiple viewers get to select whether to set a single pixel to black or white, to help build a picture.

    We are the Slashdotters.
    Purchase more bandwidth and increase your hosting budget.
    We will add your experimental and pixelogical distinctiveness to our own.
    Your images will adapt to resemble that of the Goaste Guy.
    Resistance is futile.

    1. Re:Fear the Slashdot Hive Mind by PakProtector · · Score: 2, Funny
      > " Pictures by Hive Mind" > > A very interesting little experiment where multiple viewers get to select whether to set a single pixel to black or white, to help build a picture.
      We are the Slashdotters. Purchase more bandwidth and increase your hosting budget. We will add your experimental and pixelogical distinctiveness to our own. Your images will adapt to resemble that of the Goaste Guy. Resistance is futile.

      Correction: Resistance is futile if less than 1 Ohm.

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  15. obvious by 5n3ak3rp1mp · · Score: 3, Funny

    A very interesting little experiment where thousands of slashdotters in a massive hive mind get to select whether to allow a single server to exist or not. All servers can also be viewed as coral cached over time, often showing just how close the server got to consistent 200 return codes before returning something closer to static.

    1. Re:obvious by blair1q · · Score: 1

      That's no fun.

      It's totally predictable.

  16. Karma whore by Joey+Patterson · · Score: 2, Informative
    1. Re:Karma whore by OverlordQ · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's a CGI script, all you're going to do is cache a static version of it.

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    2. Re:Karma whore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And in this case, the static image is already Slashdotted.

    3. Re:Karma whore by ArwynH · · Score: 1
      I wish... All I get is:
      Site overloaded. Either this has been linked from somewhere with heavy traffic, or you're experimenting with a clever script to try and mess with the pictures. Come back later, or stop it.
      Not exactly what I wanted to see, but slightly amusing none the less.
  17. wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    internet controlled Christmas lights on a a budget.

    I still think its a hoax. Like some remote server across the world can have any possible influence on the ability of MY monitor to turn a given pixel on or off. Yeah, right. sheesh. you people will believe anything.

  18. pixelquest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this might be a little offtopic but during the penny arace expo this year i heard some poeople talking about a game they would make called pixel quest that involved clicking a pixel till it turned a differnt color( and paying for it to). he also talked about haveing a mode that involves making a picture like with one pixel at a time like the article says

  19. Re:Slashdot? Obligatory quote by dada21 · · Score: 5, Funny

    as if millions of pixels suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly blanked.

  20. Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That wasn't long at all... slashdotting record?

  21. 404 Pixels by -Grover · · Score: 2, Funny

    Who knew that the collective minds of people using ONLY black and white pixels could make a picture that looks amazing like the /. effect. I mean seriously...What are the odds?

  22. Clarification by skunkspinner · · Score: 1

    by "multiple" we mean "console"

  23. goatse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Just waiting for the group of people to change the "?" question mark to the goatse guy!!

  24. Re:HTTP Error 404 by P3NIS_CLEAVER · · Score: 0

    /. users are going to be arrested for participating in a DNS attack.

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  25. slashdotted by bsdluvr · · Score: 1

    Site overloaded. Either this has been linked from somewhere with heavy traffic, or you're experimenting with a clever script to try and mess with the pictures. Come back later, or stop it.

    do these guys know about slashdotting?

    1. Re:slashdotted by Raseri · · Score: 1

      I got: Site overloaded. Oh. Slashdot. That would explain things. Hello.

      If they didn't know before, they do now. Talk about the school of hard knocks...:)

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    2. Re:slashdotted by n0tWorthy · · Score: 1
      Rather than post the same redundant 404 message I just want to say:

      LOL!! :D

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    3. Re:slashdotted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Site overloaded. Oh. Slashdot. That would explain things. Hello. The Smaller Picture will presumably be unusable for a while, but here's a screenshot if you're wondering what the link was about. -- Kevan

  26. clueless by alienfluid · · Score: 1

    Site overloaded. Either this has been linked from somewhere with heavy traffic, or you're experimenting with a clever script to try and mess with the pictures. Come back later, or stop it.

    This dude needs to borrow a clue from his logs.

    1. Re:clueless by Carthag · · Score: 1

      Who says he's even watching? That there looks like an automated message.

    2. Re:clueless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't if he's watching even. Do you think automated messages look even?

    3. Re:clueless by ckd · · Score: 1

      Now it says "Site overloaded. Oh. Slashdot. That would explain things. Hello."

  27. A bucket? by TheGuano · · Score: 4, Funny

    After reading about the future and potential of networked minds, it's hilarious to load up this page and see a near-random ASCII grid with the caption "The collective conscious is trying to create 'a bucket'". Now that's putting things in perspective.

    1. Re:A bucket? by Filthysock · · Score: 1

      Its a schooner!

  28. Collective ass by GrAfFiT · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Site overloaded. Either this has been linked from somewhere with heavy traffic, or you're experimenting with a clever script to try and mess with the pictures. Come back later, or stop it."
    Maybe we should stop trampling his server till it melts down, move our asses out of this mess and wait for it to return to a solid state ? Ho wait. Maybe I should submit a request to our server melting overlord.

  29. XBM images - black and white pixel master by nmoog · · Score: 4, Informative

    (Mostly off topic, but, heck.. what is the topic?)

    If you only get black and white pixels, I hope they are rendering them as XBM images. XBM is the coolest long-lost, widely supported image format - client side scriptable too!

    1. Re:XBM images - black and white pixel master by DuckofDeath87 · · Score: 1

      If we combine this with AJAX, we can take over the world!
      Mark my words, in a year's item slashdot will welcome their 2-bit AJAX with XBM overlords!

  30. Article Text by Py+to+the+Wiz · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Site overloaded. Either this has been linked from somewhere with heavy traffic, or you're experimenting with a clever script to try and mess with the pictures. Come back later, or stop it.

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  31. Site overloaded. Oh. Slashdot. I see. Hello. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He Finally Got It :D.

  32. "Slashdot. That would explain things. Hello." by Cl1mh4224rd · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hello! I brought a few friends. I hope you don't mind. *sniff, sniff* Mmm... is that server flambé?

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  33. Still working sort of by gatzke · · Score: 4, Funny

    I opened like 50 FF tabs and a couple actually connected and worked.

    I hate to encourage /. to open 50-100 tabs on their site, but if it works....

    1. Re:Still working sort of by master0ne · · Score: 1

      jackass

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  34. Reminds me of a story of a writing assignment by bill · · Score: 5, Funny

    Rebecca and Gary
    English 44A
    Creative Writing
    Prof Miller

    In-class Assignment for Wednesday

    Today we will experiment with a new form called the tandem story. The process is simple. Each person will pair off with the person sitting to his or her immediate right. One of you will then write the first paragraph of a short story. The partner will read the first paragraph and then add another paragraph to the story. The first person will then add a third paragraph, and so on back and forth. Remember to reread what has been written each time in order to keep the story coherent. The story is over when both agree a conclusion has been reached.

    * * * * * *

    At first, Laurie couldn't decide which kind of tea she wanted. The camomile, which used to be her favorite for lazy evenings at home, now reminded her too much of Carl, who once said, in happier times, that he liked camomile. But she felt she must now, at all costs, keep her mind off Carl. His possessiveness was suffocating, and if she thought about him too much her asthma started acting up again. So camomile was out of the question.
    --
    Meanwhile, Advance Sergeant Carl Harris, leader of the attack squadron now in orbit over Skylon 4, had more important things to think about than the neuroses of an air-headed bimbo named Laurie with whom he had spent one sweaty night over a year ago. "A.S. Harris to Geostation 17," he said into his transgalactic communicator. "Polar orbit established. No sign of resistance so far..." But before he could sign off a bluish particle beam flashed out of nowhere and blasted a hole through his ship's cargo bay. The jolt from the direct hit sent him flying out of his seat and across the cockpit.
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    He bumped his head and died almost immediately, but not before he felt one last pang of regret for psychically brutalizing the one woman who had ever had feelings for him. Soon afterwards, Earth stopped its pointless hostilities towards the peaceful farmers of Skylon 4. "Congress Passes Law Permanently Abolishing War and Space Travel," Laurie read in her newspaper one morning. The news simultaneously excited her and bored her. She stared out the window, dreaming of her youth -- when the days had passed unhurriedly and carefree, with no newspapers to read, no television to distract her from her sense of innocent wonder at all the beautiful things around her. "Why must one lose one's innocence to become a woman?" she pondered wistfully.
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    Little did she know, but she has less than 10 seconds to live. Thousands of miles above the city, the Anu'udrian mothership launched the first of its lithium fusion missiles. The dim-witted wimpy peaceniks who pushed the Unilateral Aerospace Disarmament Treaty through Congress had left Earth a defenseless target for the hostile alien empires who were determined to destroy the human race. Within two hours after the passage of the treaty the Anu'udrian ships were on course for Earth, carrying enough firepower to pulverize the entire planet. With no one to stop them they swiftly initiated their diabolical plan. The lithium fusion missile entered the atmosphere unimpeded. The President, in his top-secret mobile submarine headquarters on the ocean floor off the coast of Guam, felt the inconceivably massive explosion which vaporized Laurie and 85 million other Americans. The President slammed his fist on the conference table. "We can't allow this! I'm going to veto that treaty! Let's blow 'em out of the sky!"
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    This is absurd. I refuse to continue this mockery of literature. My writing partner is a violent, chauvinistic, semi-literate adolescent.
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    Yeah? Well, you're a self-centered tedious neurotic whose attempts at writing are the literary equivalent of Valium.
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    1. Re:Reminds me of a story of a writing assignment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Absolute genius!

    2. Re:Reminds me of a story of a writing assignment by Sheepdot · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sorry, this has been debunked. I was going to mod it down, but instead decided to just post the info:

      http://www.snopes.com/college/homework/writing.asp

      I've been actually quite surprised at the number of IT people that have been propagating this email. You'd think they'd be able to spot a fake a mile away.

    3. Re:Reminds me of a story of a writing assignment by Iamthewalrus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's obviously just a joke. Just because it didn't happen doesn't make it unfunny.

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    4. Re:Reminds me of a story of a writing assignment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well no kidding, but it's still funny as hell. I don't think he ever intended this to be a "true story", just noting the parallel with this "pixel-art-as-you" go thing.

    5. Re:Reminds me of a story of a writing assignment by The+G+Man · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So it's not real. It remains both quite amusing, and representative of what might happen when two (or more) people make something that relies on others to fill in the blanks, like these pictures.

      Just because it's not real doesn't make it any less valid.

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    6. Re:Reminds me of a story of a writing assignment by miyako · · Score: 1

      We had to do assignments like this in highschool. The idea was supposed to be that it forced people to write about things they might not normally have written about, and flex their creative muscle.
      More often than not it devolved into something like this, and after a few fruitless attempts the teacher eventually abanoned the idea.

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    7. Re:Reminds me of a story of a writing assignment by kai.chan · · Score: 1

      You total $*&. Stupid %&#$!
      Years later, they tied the knot and became just like every other married couple.

    8. Re:Reminds me of a story of a writing assignment by Animats · · Score: 2, Interesting
      There are writers who can bring that off.

      There's a famous story about this. Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle once accepted an advance for a new book, but hadn't made much progress as the deadline approached. So they moved into a cabin for the duration to finish the job. They took turns writing for 12 hours a day, with story discussions during their overlapping wake periods. The resulting novel was successful, and it's not obvious who wrote which parts.

    9. Re:Reminds me of a story of a writing assignment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      did you even read *your link*?

      quote:

      Origins: "The Writing Assignment" first appeared on the Internet in February 1997, when it popped up in the newsgroup rec.humor, having gotten there from a joke list. Though it's passed around as a "true story," we should simply accept it for what it is -- a wonderful piece of creative writing.

    10. Re:Reminds me of a story of a writing assignment by kaens · · Score: 1

      Was the book "The Mote in Gods Eye"?

  35. Nice to see they catch on fast! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the site when trying to play with the pixels: Site overloaded. Oh. Slashdot. That would explain things. Hello.

  36. Changed one pixel and this is all I got by jpmkm · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Site overloaded. Oh. Slashdot. That would explain things. Hello.

    1. Re:Changed one pixel and this is all I got by CRC'99 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Changed one pixel and this is all I got is a lousy tshirt?

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  37. /.ed to death by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

    "Site overloaded. Oh. Slashdot. That would explain things. Hello." That's what the link now says. /.ing kills, or at least overloads.

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  38. Site overloaded by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 1

    If you keep trying, you can access it.

    Pretty neat site too. I haven't found the animations yet, but the pictures work quite well.

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  39. Collaborative Artwork by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    If like collaborative art, also check out the ice.org gallery.

  40. urban dead by The+OPTiCIAN · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The guy who wrote this (kevan.org) has written lots of neat online games. My favourite is urban dead - urbandead.com. It's completely pathetic for the first five minutes and then utterly addictive. I recommend starting as a fireman :)

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    1. Re:urban dead by zaren · · Score: 1

      He wrote urban dead too? Nifty. I totally agree with your comment - I didn't see the point at first, but after giving it a few days, it's quite addictive. Even more so if you dig into the wiki and dig into the history and the community that's grown up around it, and play as a human for a while and get into the roleplaying...

      Just be nice to me if you run across me - I'm either Chipok or ZugZugDaboo, depending on if I'nm trying to survive as either a zombie or a human, respectively :)

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    2. Re:urban dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh no. Urban Dead server was already slow before this. Now the whole slashdot hive mind knows about that great game.

    3. Re:urban dead by The+OPTiCIAN · · Score: 1

      heh. I'm 'cratuki' and 'Emily Howard', both of clan "Little Malton".

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    4. Re:urban dead by Boronx · · Score: 1

      What kind of name is Chipok for a Zombie?

    5. Re:urban dead by JeremyALogan · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I play all three of my UrbanDead characters every single day, and because of this I've come to one conclusion. Kevan just isn't a very good coder. It takes him weeks to implement simple game additions and there have some pretty horrible known bugs floating around out there. I mean christ... there was a buffer underflow bug that was happening when zeds would get headshot-ed and his solution was to say "if their AP is over a billion it must be zero". So now instead of adding a little code that'd be something like:
      $XP = $XP - $headshot_ammount;
      if ($XP < 0) $XP = 0;
      or, better yet:
      if ($headshot_ammount > $XP) $XP = 0;
      else $XP = $XP - $headshot_ammount;
      he's apparently checking XP on every page load and resetting it if it's huge. Ignoring the DB overhead this is just stupid. Not to mention that he shouldn't be using an Unsigned Integer in the DB anyhow... a Signed SmallInt is MORE than large enough and if it failed it'd fail a lot more gracefully (someone having -2 XP instead of 4,294,967,293). Even an Unsigned Integer would make more sense.

      Take a look at the known bugs... they're mostly pathatic, the kind of mistakes amatuers make.

      Theres also a lot of things the game should do that it doesn't. For instance sorting your inventory. Dozens of GreaseMonkey scripts and Firefox plugins have cropped up on the web to fix things that'd be trivial to implement on the server. Hell, I've written a number myself. I wish he'd OSS the project (even if the license didn't allow us to use it). I'd really like to help him get the game together. I'm tired of running 8 different GM scripts just to make it playable.
    6. Re:urban dead by The+OPTiCIAN · · Score: 1

      Look - I see what you're saying - but look at it this way. He's just a guy who's doing this stuff in his spare time, and he's shipping! He gets stuff out there, and it's cool! :) He's had so many players through his system that he could probably ask for a lot more than he does and still make cash.

      It is frustrating when something goes wrong but I've got a lot of respect for him, because some parts of his site of the system are so quirky it's pretty obvious he's self-taught, and I respect that. I've made my donation and bought him a book from amazon as a result. It's still much better value than most games I've paid for.

      Catch you on the other side ;)

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    7. Re:urban dead by JeremyALogan · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah... mayhap I wasn't clear enough. I love the game... I just wish he'd let us help him make it better.

    8. Re:urban dead by zaren · · Score: 1

      What kind of name is ZugZugDaboo for a human? :) Chipok is my alternate online name, for when someone's already grabbed Zaren. It's a word I learned from my father, that (according to memory) refers to sandhill cranes.

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  41. Reminds me of iCE's Quilt Project by antdude · · Score: 2

    See this old /. story.

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  42. Now proven beyond doubt: low UID != high IQ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Move along, nothing to see here.

  43. pfft by jigjigga · · Score: 2, Funny

    well, I think that proves that our collective conscience > their server.

  44. If its truly from the internet's hive mind... by hedgemage · · Score: 5, Funny

    I bet that any pictoral representation of the interenet's collective mind will end up pornographic.

    1. Re:If its truly from the internet's hive mind... by j-cloth · · Score: 1

      Like this? Don't worry, it's probably safe for work.

  45. Here's what we could use for the patent section by martinultima · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Something that's actually useful (mentioned here 'cause it's from the same guy): The Prior-Art-O-Matic. "It's a series of randomly-generated product ideas! It raises questions about the nature of prior art in patenting issues, has some inspiring ideas, and is occasionally amusing!"

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    1. Re:Here's what we could use for the patent section by martinultima · · Score: 0

      Here's one that we should have thought up years ago :-)

      http://thesurrealist.co.uk/priorart.cgi?ref=406895 3994

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    2. Re:Here's what we could use for the patent section by azool · · Score: 1

      Now,this is useful.

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    3. Re:Here's what we could use for the patent section by FinestLittleSpace · · Score: 1

      "Fuelled by AIDs"

    4. Re:Here's what we could use for the patent section by EvanED · · Score: 1

      Here's another that would be useful and would be useful.

    5. Re:Here's what we could use for the patent section by pontifier · · Score: 1

      this one's mine cause I found it!

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  46. Aww by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hereby donate half my humor to Sheepdot UID 211478 on Slashdot in the hopes that it might make him or her feel better about life and have at least one laugh each day.

    Compliments

    Anonymous Coward
    acting on behalf of the world

    1. Re:Aww by Sheepdot · · Score: 1

      Like others have said, this fake email fits in, but still, like *I* said, I've been surprised at the number of IT people that have STILL been propagating it. I guess I figured the parent was one of them. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I suspect they were duped as I almost was.

      Hence the need to point out it is fake.

      Just offering some insight, that's all.

  47. Just before the Site went down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I saw it. It said: pwnd

  48. Intelligent Weapons by lukOh · · Score: 1

    Some guy coming with an (whois)Arizonian link points out a site that gets ./ed in a blink. That site appears to be in Berkshire, UK (kevan.org).
    Well, the final target might be missed sometimes, but our success rates are well above 80%!
    The funniest part are google's ADs on the source. Ouch.

  49. Hivemind Vector Drawing? Hivemind CAD? by sanman2 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What if this Hivemind approach could be applied to drawing a vector image. Or even CAD, for building a house/car/spaceship? Suppose a webpage could feature a large vector-drawing canvas, sort of like a simplified version of Adobe Illustrate or the Macromedia Flash editor. Perhaps it could be built using AJAX. Start off with a blank canvas, and allow a visitor to lay down a single vectorized stroke. Then see what everyone's strokes all add up to. This 'wisdom of crowds' idea is pretty intriguing. Anyone have any links to other webpages based on this idea? Anyone have any ideas for what might make for a good webpage project based on this idea?

    1. Re:Hivemind Vector Drawing? Hivemind CAD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you kidding? Thats a retarded idea.

      I want to see you live in a house created by the crowd. It will be like that episode of the Simpsons where Flander's house gets destroyed by a tornado and the community pitches in to rebuild it, except it is rebuilt a piece of shit. Toilet in the kitchen and hallways that shrink down into crawl spaces towards the end.

      Did you use enough acronyms in your post? Apparently the moderators ate it up. Further proof that crowd moderation doesn't work. A totally retarded post gets modded up.

      This is why we have engineers trained as engineers. They actually know what they're doing. Random idiots with a modemdo not know the first thing about building bridges or spaceships.

    2. Re:Hivemind Vector Drawing? Hivemind CAD? by NitsujTPU · · Score: 1

      I tend to think of 'mob mentality' er the 'wisdom of crowds' as a bad thing.

    3. Re:Hivemind Vector Drawing? Hivemind CAD? by mgscheue · · Score: 1

      It's already been done: the Pontiac Aztek.

  50. Is it a MAC? by netrangerrr · · Score: 2, Funny

    Before /. killed it, I'd swear it was a picture of an old MAC! Perhaps that's how my conciousness perceives the perfect computer. Funny, I've never owned a MAC - I've always been a PC man after Commodore died. I'd think the collective (un)conciousness would draw a Windows PC....

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  51. SwarmSketch by adpowers · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm a fan of SwarmSketch. Each user can draw so many line segments, and then they can vote to make certain lines lighter or darker. The system averages the darkness from each user to find the darkness of the line. Each month is a new themed picture.

  52. Gotcha! by lukOh · · Score: 1

    Got the screenshot.
    Interesting idea indeed, it makes me think of a manual "life" game, community-driven. Especially in the animation mode and if the images can be perpetually changed it may show interesting brain patterns.
    Why would I choose black or white when I'm (black) surrounded? Good for psychiatry as well.

  53. Usually the average is right... by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1
    Everything in moderation.

    Funny, I just finished The Wisdom of Crowds, a book I picked up on a whim at Costco (not Amazon, but linking is easier). Summary - pretty much; A bunch of people looking out for their own interests, makes the world a better place.

    How this applies to creating a picture on a computer screen, I dunno... what's in it for me?

    Of course, that wise philosopher George Carlin said "Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!" So, I don't know where that leaves us...

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    This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
    1. Re:Usually the average is right... by lost+in+place · · Score: 1

      > A bunch of people looking out for their own interests, makes the world a better place.

      I think a more accurate generalization would be: A bunch of people looking out for their own interests, under some conditions, at some tasks, can make the world a better place.

      Art by committee is almost always a failure, as this "hive mind" experiment seems to demonstrate. Literature by committee too. Software by committee has a lot of successes, some failures.

      What would be more interesting would be insightful observations about which tasks/projects are better undertaken alone and which can be helped by collaboration.

      As for the Carlin quote, I prefer Scott Adams' observation that everyone is stupid, sometimes, at some things. Welcome to the human race.

  54. The Slashdot hive mind is creating a troll by lone_marauder · · Score: 2, Funny

    Join in by adding a word to this sentence:

    Teh

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    who are those slashdot people? they swept over like Mongol-Tartars.
    1. Re:The Slashdot hive mind is creating a troll by aaza · · Score: 1
      Teh 1337

      Now someone else join in...

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      In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
      In practice, however, there is.
    2. Re:The Slashdot hive mind is creating a troll by Kagura · · Score: 1

      Teh 1337 boxen One more person?

    3. Re:The Slashdot hive mind is creating a troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Teh 1337 boxen was hax0r3d

    4. Re:The Slashdot hive mind is creating a troll by idonthack · · Score: 1

      One word, but okay.

      Teh 1337 boxen was hax0r3d und
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    5. Re:The Slashdot hive mind is creating a troll by potpie · · Score: 1

      mix in a little latin if that's ok... Teh 1337 boxen was hax0r3d und fregit sed non

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      Esoteric reference.
    6. Re:The Slashdot hive mind is creating a troll by duckpoopy · · Score: 1

      Teh end.

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      word.
  55. Old? by MelodicMotives · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I remember this from a long ass time ago. Anybody else?

  56. Wow by TrentL · · Score: 1

    I just started reading "The Wisdom of Crowds" tonight. One of the first questions in my mind was, "Can a crowd create art? What happens if people get to vote on brush-strokes & color?" Looks like this website is an interesting experiment on that idea.

  57. A concept by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would like to see, just as a concept for the entertainment factor, somebody implement the following :

    * a first-person perspective inside a 3D maze is constructed.
    * users hold red lazers and point this at a big screen where the output image is being projected.
    * users position the red lights to turn the player, move ahead etc. so having more red lights to the right of the screen would rotate the 'player' to the right side etc.
    * there is a video camera picking up the co-ordinates of all the lazer lights, and this works out an average and outputs the appropriate movement.
    * how well will the players do ?

    I would love to see this experiment in action.

    1. Re:A concept by Marsoups · · Score: 1

      I would like to see, just as a concept for the entertainment factor, somebody implement the following : * a first-person perspective inside a 3D maze is constructed. * users hold red lazers and point this at a big screen where the output image is being projected. * users position the red lights to turn the player, move ahead etc. so having more red lights to the right of the screen would rotate the 'player' to the right side etc. * there is a video camera picking up the co-ordinates of all the lazer lights, and this works out an average and outputs the appropriate movement. * how well will the players do ? I would love to see this experiment in action.

    2. Re:A concept by davidbrit2 · · Score: 1

      Wasn't there something vaguely similar to this on an old Nickelodeon show? I have faint memories of a bunch of audience members holding up paddles with two different very bright colors on opposite sides, which could then be used to control simple left/right kinds of behavior based on which side they pointed at the camera.

    3. Re:A concept by Marsoups · · Score: 1

      I would imagine so , however it'd be quite fun to see this advance...... There is a lot of fun things you can do with the hive mind and to see it in action is just great.....

  58. letters is much cooler by mike6496 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    sorry.. but this is much cooler.. http://web.okaygo.co.uk/apps/letters/flashcom/
    (look in the lower left corner to see how many people are currently dragging letters around)

    1. Re:letters is much cooler by RandomPrecision · · Score: 1
      Look in the top-left corner.

      And Fark was there too, apparently.

    2. Re:letters is much cooler by Squirrley · · Score: 0

      oh wow thats cool... damn people hiding letters in the cornerz

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    3. Re:letters is much cooler by arabagast · · Score: 1

      haha, it actually was a large "W00t" being finished just when I joined, and at once when it whas finished it disappeared into all the usual "f*ck", "a**" etc. It's kinda typical hive behaviour, to be inmature that is.

      Hive bee

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      Bomb no.20 : To explode of course.
    4. Re:letters is much cooler by albyrne5 · · Score: 1

      I'm still in the throes of a OMG-that-was-so-cool frenzy, so forgive me if I go a little overboard, but that is one of the best web-sites I've seen in ages.

      I am in work right now, so I can't keep a colourful magnetic-letter game on my screen for too long without attracting attention, but I am gonna mess with that as soon as I get home.

      I like the way you can see emergent cooperation, and the human mind at work on an individual basis too. You can see plans formulating in peoples heads and then you can see them executed briefly, before being sabotaged.

      ALthough at one stage, someone decided to hide all the letters in the corner, and I joined in, and pretty soon almost all of us were doing it, and they all got there. I like the way that goal was achieved without any direct communication between the participants.

      I have to do some more thinking, but to reiterate - I LIKE THIS LINK!

  59. It's starting to look like a by Belseth · · Score: 1

    You can tell the Slashdot community is involved now. They had to reclassify it as an adult sight.

  60. What a shocking bad hat! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh wait, that was The Madness of Crowds.

  61. Kevan == n00bie? by woolio · · Score: 1

    His main page says the server is being loaded... Well okay.. (slashdot has a tendancy to do that).

    But he is nice, so he gives a screenshot...

    Guess what folks, the links on his "screenshot page" appear to be live links!!!  Well, I hope London is ready for this....

    And traceroute shows:
    (snip)
    7:  so-3-2-0-0.gar2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.78.234.17)     26.187ms
    8:  ae-1-51.bbr1.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.68.122.1)         20.143ms
    9:  ae-1-0.bbr2.London1.Level3.net (212.187.128.57)      144.766ms
    10:  ge-10-0.ipcolo2.London1.Level3.net (212.187.131.8)   146.664ms
    11:  fe0-0.red1.mnet.net.uk (212.113.10.202)              144.729ms
    12:  cr1-fe20.rbs.uk.euroconnex.net (82.211.104.78)       155.163ms
    13:  cr1-fe01.gh1.uk.euroconnex.net (217.112.80.18)       150.020ms
    14:  wood.bocks.com (217.112.87.2)                        155.446ms

  62. Liked It by sanman2 · · Score: 1

    Heh, liked that site, and some of the follow-up links posted in here. It would be interesting to discuss just how complicated a game/app one can make using this multi-user web app approach. I've read that these "wisdom of crowds" apps tend to fall into chaos unless rigidly structured. I wonder how one could structure an app to get the most productive effect out of it, rather than the frustrating chaos that was the case in the "stealing letters" game, and even in the multi-user sketchpad app. In the sketchpad, for instance, there was one talented guy who was drawing amazing stuff, but other dopes were messing up his work.

    1. Re:Liked It by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I wonder how one could structure an app to get the most productive effect out of it, rather than the frustrating chaos that was the case in the "stealing letters" game, and even in the multi-user sketchpad app. In the sketchpad, for instance, there was one talented guy who was drawing amazing stuff, but other dopes were messing up his work.

      Perhaps some sort of meta-moderation system, not unlike Slashdot's. Each person's edits are "rated" by others, and a distributed rating system (like Google's PageRank) determines the weighing of each person's rating.

      In the situation you described, the "talented guy" would be constantly "modded up" while the trolls would be "modded down" until they have the same (or worse) status as an anonymous user. The talented guys would be able to edit more and more, as the system favours those who make edits that others like.

      Such systems may (perhaps always) work if the number of "good" users who actively participate exceeds the number of asshats. It would have to be carefully tweaked to avoid trolls abusing the ratings system (eg. denial of service against specific people), but sites such as Slashdot and Wikipedia demostrate that these systems are at least partially successful.
  63. The hive-mind is trying to create quality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Should this comment be rated
    STUPID or NOT_STUPID.

  64. Hive Mind... Meet Goofus and Gallant by eno2001 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Goofus looks at the hive mind picture and says, "Haw haw!! I'll pick the wrong color so I can screw with the picture".

    Gallant looks at the hive mind picture and says, "Oh. It looks like they're trying to draw a classic Macintosh. I think the pink pixel should be white".

    Goofus gets a message from the hive mind site saying that he has used up all his chances for the day. "Stupid fools. I'll go to the next PC in the lab and get another IP so I can keep screwing with that picture"!

    Gallant gets a visit from the Borg queen and seeing that he is a wuss, she assimilates him. Gallant says, "I am Wusseutis of Borg. Resistance is futile"...

    Goofus gets a visit from Wusseutis. "Hey freakboy what are you up to today"? Wusseutis extends his tendrils and assimilates Gooofus.

    Gallant, "I am Wusseutis of Borg. Resistance is futile. You're own uniqueness will be assimilated into the collective".

    Goofus, "I am Jerkutis of Borg. Resistance is futile. You're own uniqueness will be assimilited into the collective or something"...

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  65. Hive mind, yes, but of what species?? by Jugalator · · Score: 1
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  66. Tyrrany of the majority by bscott · · Score: 1

    Somehow this experiment plugs into my long-held views about the inherent flaws of democracy - it really is merely "better than whatever's in second place", and this is an example of why. Everyone gets a vote, given a vague notion of the mutual goal, and the result is chaos.

    Give people a halfway-decent picture of the goal - or metaphorically, give voters a competent and honest media which reports objectively on the issues - and I bet you'll find that far fewer steps are required for a convergence on the picture of the bucket.

    Or maybe it's just late and I'm sleep deprived. And this site is just a clever hack which probably has interesting implications of its own for those who are more focused.

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  67. Re:HTTP Error 404 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you want to improve your karma, one of the tricks is to get in quick meaningful posts soon after a story breaks. Don't be vitriolic and don't try to be funny. Just get a solid well focused paragraph within the first 15 minutes of a story going up and you should be able to repair your karma in a fairly short amount a time. Don't do this too much though, or you may suffer moderator backlash (especially considering your recognzable and possibly incendiary name)

  68. I'm sorry I haven't a clue by Random_Goblin · · Score: 1

    The format is actually used as one of the games (Cheddar Gorge) on Radio 4 's I'm sorry I haven't a clue, although to make it a bit more challenging the team get alternate words not paragraphs.

    Players must provide one word each in turn which added to the previous submissions makes up a coherent sentence - challenging enough, you might think, but the aim of the game is never to utter a word which might be construed as actually finishing the sentence. They usually produce perfectly plausible constructs, the funniest bits occuring when one side attempts to back the other over a stretched metaphorical cliff.

    For more information on I haven't a clue i would recommend the h2g2 guide's entry. Radio 4 is of course one of the last places that great english game mornington crescent is still played.