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Just Say No to Microsoft

Ben Rothke writes "Load up a computer today with a basic set of applications software, and there will be a de facto Microsoft tax on that computer. Add roughly $100- for the Windows XP operating systems and $350- for Microsoft office, and you have a significant initial financial outlay. If one would use an open source operating system and set of office applications, the cost savings would be enormous. That is why the option of open source is so financially compelling to the both the consumer and organizations have thousands of computers. And open source is corresponding such a threat to companies such as Microsoft. The idea of saving money and never having to worry about a blue screen of death is the proverbial win/win scenario." Read on for Ben's review. Just Say No to Microsoft: How to Ditch Microsoft and Why It's Not as Hard as You Think author Tony Bove pages 243 publisher No Starch Press rating 7 reviewer Ben Rothke ISBN 159327064X summary Open source alternatives to Microsoft operating systems and applications

With that, Just Say No to Microsoft: How to Ditch Microsoft and Why It's Not as Hard as You Think would seemingly be a most valuable book in helping consumers and corporations rid themselves of the Microsoft tax. Unfortunately, the book spends far too much time slurring Microsoft and Bill Gates.

The books main charges are that Microsoft has been far too predatory and that Bill Gates is not the technical genius that he is made out to be. Microsoft's questionable business tactics are not without ethical lapses, but it must noted that Microsoft is simply one in a long line of companies that have used their size and deep pockets to quash the competition. Microsoft is not alone and joins companies such as American Airlines, Ford and General Motors, Wal-Mart and more that have engaged in practices that while good for their stockholders, have not been good for the competition.

Bove is correct that Microsoft's practices over the years have discouraged innovation and stunted competition. But then again, that is true of Ford, GM and other such companies. The innovations of Ford and GM for example have been mostly superficial, without any significant improvement into crucial issues such as gas mileage and more.

Two of the companies that Microsoft has been accused of destroying are Novell and WordPerfect. Yet much of the blame for the demise of these two companies goes to their management that did not know how to properly market their products nor deal with a competitor such as Microsoft. This is not meant to imply that Microsoft is blameless, rather that Novell and WordPerfect had plenty of opportunities to fend off Microsoft, yet did not rise to the challenge.

Aside from the pervasive anti-Microsoft tone and style and the book, Just Say No to Microsoft: How to Ditch Microsoft and Why It's Not as Hard as You Think provides a good starting point for those that are looking for a cheaper and safer alternative to Microsoft products.

Chapter 1 start with an overview of the history of Microsoft and how it grew to be the largest software company in the world. In chapter 2, All You Need is a Mac, Bove feels that the quickest route to Microsoft freedom is by purchasing a Macintosh. While a Mac is not necessarily cheaper than a Wintel system, the Mac OS X is considerably more resilient against attacks. In addition, the concern of malware such as viruses and spyware are much less of an issue on a Mac.

Chapter 3 deals with what worries Microsoft the most - Linux. Bove notes that large companies that deal with thousands of end-user desktops are discovering the advantage of migrating to Linux in a big way.

Chapters 4 and 5 deal with Microsoft Word and Excel. Word documents have become the de facto standard for document exchange and are what has locked many people into staying with Microsoft Word. Excel has a similar power in being the de facto spreadsheet. Most people think that the only alternative to Word is WordPerfect and simply don't know about OpenOffice Writer and Calc or other open source alternatives. The two chapters show how it is possible to effectively collaborate on documents without having to use Word.

While the book does not get into every open source alternative to a Microsoft product, Bove's web site has a comprehensive list of open source alternatives to Windows products at www.tonybove.com/getoffmicrosoft/home.html#windows

Chapter 4 concludes with a look at the technical and practical problems with PowerPoint. Bove notes that the corrupting power of PowerPoint is so strong that otherwise normally articulate speakers turn into zombies mumbling the bullet points that appear on the slides behind them. It is not clear though how Impress, the open source alternative to PowerPoint is necessarily better from a presentation perspective.

The next few chapters deal with Outlook, the application that has launched countless viruses and worms, and also detail other network-based problems with Microsoft protocols and applications. Issues such as the never enduing cycle of Microsoft patches are also discussed.

Chapter 10 provides a 10 step program (fashioned after the Alcoholics Anonymous 12 step program) to free the reader from their Microsoft addition. While the steps are brief and effective, it would have been better had there been more technical details on how to migrate out of a Microsoft environment. For the person with thousands of documents and files in various Microsoft formats, it is not as effortless as to simply copy your old files onto a USB drive and move it to the new open source based host.

The book contains four parts, and there are four cartoons at the begging of each part that Bove wrote. The cartoons are quite funny in their own right and Bove should also consider a career as a cartoonist.

Ned Ludd said that the machine was the enemy, and Tony Bove feels the same way about Microsoft. For evidence, check out his campaign to stop the spread of Word documents at www.tonybove.com/getoffmicrosoft/stopdoc.html.

The only negative to the book is that there are far too many anti-negative stories of Microsoft's predatory practices. A few stories would be adequate, but there is no point in belaboring the issue in a book that is meant to be more technical and practical, as opposed to political.

For many people who don't know better, they expect that a blue screen of death and monthly patching is part of a standard computing environment. Just Say No to Microsoft: How to Ditch Microsoft and Why It's Not as Hard as You Think is an interesting read that will open the eyes of those users to a cheaper, more secure and robust open source solution.

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  1. This is worth a whole book? by gbulmash · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Is this topic really book-worthy? Seems like how to "just say no" to Microsoft could be covered in an article or two. Perhaps that's why the author spends so much time bashing Microsoft in the book... for filler.

    And if you're going to just say no to Microsoft, Apple isn't necessarily the way to go. You're still locked into all sorts of proprietary software and apps.

    Perhaps a more useful book would have been "Just Say Yes to OSS", detailing all of the neat replacements for popular closed-source software, not just Windows and Office. A lot of this stuff has been ported too, so you can phase yourself over, trying out various apps on your Windows box, getting more comfortable with OSS, and gradually moving toward a closed-source-free existence.

    - Greg

    1. Re:This is worth a whole book? by fitten · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree completely. Writing a book that is full of crap like that just turns more people OFF. If you have a solid argument that OSS is better, you can make your argument without ever mentioning Microsoft. If you can't make your argument without mentioning Microsoft, then you are just a religious nut. Prove to me that OSS is better. Do not try to argue with me that Microsoft is evil therefore I must use OSS to save my soul.

    2. Re:This is worth a whole book? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Since this particular book is about avoiding Microsoft in particular, your statement makes little sense. This book appears to take the approach of presenting a solid case against using MS products, then proposing alternatives--some less desirable (Mac OS X), some more (GNU/Linux). This is known as pragmatism.

      A "religious nut" would actually be the one who pushes OSS at the expense of perfectly viable non-OSS solutions. Of course, such a "religious nut" need hardly mention Microsoft to make his case for OSS. Most of the problems with proprietary software are endemic, not special cases with MS. They just happen to provide the most egregious and insidious examples of same. The idea that you'd want to make a case for OSS without mentioning MS is a bit ludicrous as a result.

    3. Re:This is worth a whole book? by Fx.Dr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm no Microsofty by any means, but I think it's foolish to propose a mass migration to any OS (be it any flavor of Apple or OSS) as a cure-all for your viral & exploit woes. Can anyone here honestly say that if any other OS captured 90%+ market share, that those too wouldn't be nearly as visible in the media with regards to The Latest Exploit of The Week? Sure, M$ products are about as reliable as a Gremlin in winter (and every bit as frustrating!), but it never hurts to keep things in perspective.

    4. Re:This is worth a whole book? by Frazbin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Arguing that OSS is "better" without mentioning Microsoft could prove difficult indeed. "Better" is a word that takes two arguments-- the thing that is better, and the thing the first thing is better than. X is better than Y. If no argument is given for Y directly, we find one based on context. In a discussion wherein OSS is said to be "better", the logical inference is that it's being compared with its competition-- specifically, Microsoft.

      I think you're saying OSS should stand on its merits alone. Well, it *does*. I mean, it works. It has merits, and these merits make it *good* (remember, we can't say better without implicitly mentioning MS). You can surf the web, and things. Also, I hear you can use OSS to make a neato webserver, and talk to your pals on the AIM. Very exciting. Whether it works better than MS's stuff... Well, I guess I can't talk about that without being a religious nut.

      Qualities! OSS has them! It's... Better. But we're not talking about MS! Just better. It isn't bad. It's.. better than good!

      Great!? No. Better.

    5. Re:This is worth a whole book? by jedidiah · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The idea is not foolish by any means.

      Microsoft has gone out of it's way to make it's products vulnerable to various forms of malware and has been doing so for a number of years. They are also quite slow to alter their behaivor in this respect. The end result is a system that is broken by design. Even if Microsoft were to clean up their act completely by tomorrow, everyone else that has been following their lead needs to be dealt with.

      It is Microsoft that is particularly interested in blurring the distinction between open and execute and no one else really.

      Claiming that it's "all due to marketshare" really glosses over the many ways in sensible engineering can cause or avoid problems.

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    6. Re:This is worth a whole book? by vertinox · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you still see the BSOD then very likely your hardware is at fault.

      As a Buddhist would say, consciousness is not independent of reality and reality is not independent of consciousness nor are they dependant of each other to exist.

      That said...

      And OS is not independent of its hardware. Hardware is not independent of the OS.

      Nor are they dependant of each other (at least in the x86/ppc/ vs linux/windows sense) so therefore a hardware issue is dependant on the OS reaction to it.

      If the OS did not react poorly to bad hardware or bad interaction with hardware (drivers), then it wouldn't of course have a major failure. Now the only time I have seen WinXP bluescreen is when it had a bad reaction to a particular USB device (iPod).

      However, that said, if the OS had some method of dealing with that instead of complete failure then it would be a better OS, but we can't expect it to perform miracles (like still being able to function when you yank the ram straight off the motherboard with the power on).

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    7. Re:This is worth a whole book? by killjoe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      " I agree completely. Writing a book that is full of crap like that just turns more people OFF. "

      No it doesn't. There have been a tremendous amount of research into negative advertising and it has been proven over and over that it works. That's why politicians do it, that's why companies do it, that's why CEOs do it.

      MS (and it's lackeys) has run a smear campaign against OSS for a long time now by calling people communists, refering to open sores, calling linus and other thieves, socialists and whatever else they can think of. Just recently some lacket wrote a personal smear piece agains the CIO of Mass in the boston globe just because he is convinced that open document formats are better then proprietary ones.

      Negative advertising works. We need more of it, not less.

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    8. Re:This is worth a whole book? by NickFortune · · Score: 4, Insightful
      ...and ACs complaining about how crap Slashdot is. of course.

      Makes you wonder why they don't go and read something they enjoy, really.

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    9. Re:This is worth a whole book? by theLOUDroom · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you still see the BSOD then very likely your hardware is at fault. Although a 100% windows user and habitual upgrader/overclocker/gamer I have not seen once since last time I tried to use a Soundblaster in a VIA-based mainboard - 2001, or was it 2000?

      That's a pretty bold claim, with a very tiny amount of anecdotal evidence to back it up. One person using maybe (let's be generous) five systems for who-knows-what use hasn't seen a blue screen for about five years, therefore everyone else who has is a liar?

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    10. Re:This is worth a whole book? by bcrowell · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I have a different book from No Starch, "The Debian System," by Krafft, that suffers from a similar problem. You have to wade through a huge amount of ideology before you get to the real meat of the book. My perception of No Starch is that they're sort of a second string compared to O'Reilly. People whose books didn't get accepted by O'Reilly might get them accepted by No Starch. No Starch seems to allow (or even encourage) this kind of ideological meandering, which I'm sure would have been edited out by O'Reilly. And No Starch also tends to do a really lousy job on the editorial stuff in general (grammar, etc.).

      It also kind of rubs me the wrong way to have the first 60 pages of a book be a rant about free information, when the book itself isn't free-as-in-anything. (Both O'Reilly and No Starch make some of their books available for free in digital form, but not that many of them. And before anyone mods me down as -1, Hypocritical, yes, I have written some free books myself -- see my sig for examples from me and other authors.) If the author's own book isn't free, I won't criticize his decision (there's not much room in the economy for people who pay the rent by writing books that are free), but then he should omit the rant.

      Prove to me that OSS is better. Do not try to argue with me that Microsoft is evil therefore I must use OSS to save my soul.
      Well, I do think the ethical aspects of free information are important, but it's true that 99% of the population (including you, I guess) won't buy it -- you can't go around making these free-information speeches to people who aren't fellow travelers. They'll (a) think you're nuts, and (b) think that you're emphasizing all this philosophical stuff because OSS isn't good quality, and therefore quality itself isn't enough of a reason to prefer it over proprietary software. I think it works a lot better if you first show them that they can get something really good as free information (Linux, Wikipedia), and then let them draw their own conclusions about whether the world needs proprietary/monopoly information.

    11. Re:This is worth a whole book? by the.o.ster.66 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The problem that most technical people seem to completely ignore is the cold hard fact that the general public doesn't know ANYTHING about computers. We have GROSSLY blown out the consumer market with tools that no one knows how to use. Have you ever watched Joe User actually USE a computer? It's horrible. (and I won't even relate some of the tales of CAD users that I've witnessed) Forget effeciency.

      "Why are you copying that text into each cell one-at-time?"

      "How else would I do it?"

      Getting these people to something other than Windows/Office? Are you serious? You want to see the economy (possibly global) come to a grinding halt? Remove Microsoft. Close the doors, kill support, no more evilness. Bill goes on his retirement cruise and leaves civilization to it's own devices. Talk about shit-mess...and who's going to clean up? The tree-hugg...I mean the OSS crowd? Doubt it. Sad as it might be, Microsoft *is* technology in the world today. My advice to you is "Learn To Live With It"

  2. Who to blame? Idiot competitors by dada21 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This book is very similar to the Parable of the Broken Window by Bastiat. You can remove Microsoft from the PC equation and maybe see a savings of $450 per PC, but you're forgetting about the unintended consequences of that action.

    I'm not being a Microsoft fanboy here, I just wanted to make it clear that Microsoft is producing a huge market than many of us here rely on. Microsoft uses their profit for positive benefits to society as well: 1 2 3 4 These are just a few from November, 2005.

    Also, Microsoft employs more than 12,000 people. These people likely buy products or use services that your employer produces.

    Sure, ending Microsoft's majority-control of the operating system market and office processing market sounds like a great idea, yet there isn't a viable alternative that is as widely supported, YET. Give it time. Thousands of companies this very minute are working on the next replacement of both the OS and the office processing software.

    The market compensates for consumer demand, and no company (that I know of) has had the ability to perform at the top for more than a decade. Microsoft has been on top for a while, but it isn't anything unnatural -- they've created a product that billions of people LIKE using. That product has created a third party market that has put food on the table of millions of contractors, programmers and hardware manufacturers.

    Would the money saved over Office and Windows be spent elsewhere? Of course it would. I believe that money will be best spent over time, as individual consumers make individual choices. Yes, going to F/OSS software would likely save $500 per PC that could be spent on food or cars or drugs or hookers or a new roof, but such a change couldn't happen overnight.

    If Linux fanboys want to convince, they need to make a product that works as well as the competition.

    In my experience (I'm 31 and have been watching freeware since 1984 when I started my first BBS), that hasn't happened often.

    Looking at the editorial closer:

    Bove is correct that Microsoft's practices over the years have discouraged innovation and stunted competition. Stunted competition? Microsoft's platform has offered millions of programmers a fairly amazing platform to make software that not only works in a standard way familiar to users, but also interacts with other programs.

    Two of the companies that Microsoft has been accused of destroying are Novell and WordPerfect. The editor is right in laying the blame at Novell and WordPerfect. My company only maintains a few Novell servers and we HATE them. WordPerfect was always terrible except when it was running solely under DOS. They never produced a product that was user friendly (I know, we still support some WordPerfect desktops).

    While a Mac is not necessarily cheaper than a Wintel system, the Mac OS X is considerably more resilient against attacks. I'm not sure this is really a big deal. My security company offers corporations the ability to be virus and spam free for less than $250 per user per year. For a 50-user network, you're looking at only $12,500 to bring us on. Considering most of my customers bill out at $150 per hour, for only 83 hours invested, we're likely saving them hundreds of hours in time saved. If they switched to a Mac, they're still going to need someone working on their spam and other problems, and I don't see a huge savings there over us.

    Chapter 3 deals with what worries Microsoft the most - Lin

  3. Typical slashdot tripe. by JismTroll · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I would be astounded to see one article on Slashdot that ever shows Microsoft in a positive light. Microsoft isn't inherently evil, they're a company. They make things. It took hundreds of thousands of unwashed linux programmers over a decade to make their operating system, and Microsoft only takes a few years for each version, which yes, of course, like all things, has flaws. How about just stepping back, taking a deep breath and realizing that, yes, Microsoft makes good things?

  4. It's only a tax if you have no option by gasmonso · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How can paying for an OS be considred a tax? Now, if you wanted to buy a box from Dell without the OS and they won't, then yes that's a tax...well kinda. But stick it to Dell by buying from someone else or making your own system. There are plently of places to buy a computer from without having Windows installed.

    gasmonso http://religiousfreaks.com/
    1. Re:It's only a tax if you have no option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Where can I buy a notebook without Windows at a price not higher than the same notebook with Windows?

  5. Perhaps, but... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 4, Insightful

    an article or two won't convince a newbie or a Joe Manager. Besides, a book might make a perfect gift for an office (pun intended) coworker, or even your boss.

  6. Everyone benefits. by MarkByers · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The great thing about having $0 competition is that it will eventually force Microsoft to reduce its prices. So everyone will benefit from Linux being more widely used, even people that will never want to try Linux!

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    1. Re:Everyone benefits. by CDarklock · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And the great thing about having $350 competition is that it will eventually force you to figure out what it offers and you don't.

      I frequently spend money to save time. I order a pizza instead of cooking dinner. I tip the delivery driver rather than go pick it up myself. And I eat from disposable paper plates instead of reusable dishes so I don't have to wash them. I'm perfectly capable of assembling a solid and satisfying meal for about $7 worth of groceries, but it will take me about two hours to do all the things related to it. So instead, I spend $40 on a pizza, because my time is worth more than $16.50 an hour.

      Microsoft saves me time. It's easy. What word processor should I use? MS Word. What if I didn't want to? Well... there are many alternatives. If I spent a week evaluating them, I might be able to make a good choice, and that choice would probably have 90% of the functionality of MS Word... but I don't have a week to flush down the toilet just because Microsoft isn't the poster boy for business ethics, and I simply don't understand why I would invest more time for less functionality.

      If using a different word processor was going to save me $2500, it might be worth a week of my time, but it's not. At retail prices, it saves me about $100, which makes it worth a couple hours at most... and as a Microsoft partner, I don't pay retail for Microsoft software. At my price, it's not even worth twenty minutes.

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  7. My guess is... by curteck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This dude isn't a PC gamer.

  8. Re:Who to blame? Idiot competitors by slavemowgli · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Microsoft uses their profit for positive benefits to society as well:

    Ah, yes, but a thief who spends part of what he steals from you on good causes is still a thief, isn't he? If someone breaks into your house, steals a thousand dollars, and then donates ten dollars to the red cross, would you laud him for his positive benefit to society? Or would you say "that darn thief stole a thousand dollars from me"?

    Microsoft is just like that, only on a larger scale.

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  9. Re:Who to blame? Idiot competitors by Decaff · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Microsoft's platform has offered millions of programmers a fairly amazing platform to make software that not only works in a standard way familiar to users, but also interacts with other programs.

    A fairly amazing platform for programmers? I beg to differ. Ever since I started to develop for Windows in the mid-80s I saw what a mess the platform was in so many ways. There were other GUI systems available (even for DOS) that were cleaner and simpler. There was, of course the Mac.

    My company only maintains a few Novell servers and we HATE them.

    We love them. They are rock solid stable and virtually maintenance-free.

    WordPerfect was always terrible except when it was running solely under DOS.

    Terrible how? We still have users who use WordPerfect/Corel Office under Windows and love it, as it is far more tailored to their use than MS Office.

    My users (nearly 90% in our last questionnaire) love the Word interface and look-and-feel.

    I couldn't let this pass! (1) Have you shown them anything else recently? (You have to bear in mind that users will always prefer the familiar) (2) What do you mean by the Word interface? The thing keeps changing every few years, often in ways that makes it different from the main Windows GUI.

  10. Re:Who to blame? Idiot competitors by dada21 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't see Microsoft as a thief. Government is a thief: they steal with the threat of a gun. Microsoft is a choice, government isn't.

    You and every other person in this world is FREE to choose against Microsoft. As many people know, Microsoft has an interface in their software that is VERY easy to use, and they are supported by more programmers than any other operating system. You can't fault Microsoft for releasing Windows 3.1 that was compatible with millions of computers and offered a fairly decent interface. Apple decided to release their OS to a proprietary solution, and F/OSS OSes weren't really on the radar at the time.

  11. Re:Who to blame? Idiot competitors by bobintetley · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If Linux fanboys want to convince, they need to make a product that works as well as the competition.

    This statement is just wrong:

    1. "Linux fanboys" don't tend to write software.
    2. The people that do write the software HAVE NO INTEREST IN DEFEATING MICROSOFT. How does having a bunch of whining Windows ex-pats looking to save money help the F/OSS world at all? No. Are they going to write software? Are they going to complain that everything doesn't work just like it does on windows? Probably.

    This book is very similar to the Parable of the Broken Window by Bastiat.

    It is highly ironic that you use this analogy. It applies to your comments:

    I'm not being a Microsoft fanboy here, I just wanted to make it clear that Microsoft is producing a huge market that many of us here rely on. Microsoft uses their profit for positive benefits to society as well: 1 2 3 4 These are just a few from November, 2005.

    You imply that the money is well spent propping up Microsoft's monopoly because they make donations to charity and there is employment around their crappy software?

    I strongly suspect that if billions didn't go Microsoft's way, some of that money would find its way to charity and there would still be a strong market around custom software solutions. If Microsoft weren't there I'm sure we'd find a way to muddle along ;-)

    Of course, we don't know what the world's economies would look like without Microsoft, but from a European perspective (I'm English) a lot less money would be going overseas to an American corporation which could only be good.

  12. Re:Who to blame? Idiot competitors by arkanes · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I'm not being a Microsoft fanboy here

    Well, you *sound* like one...

    In fact, you sound like you're arguing everythign except realistic points (which, of course, the book does too - I don't want to sound like I'm defending it because it's crap).

    In fact, everything you write here sounds exactly like the standard fears & rants of a Microsoft sharecropper who fears (greatly) the de-valuation of your company. It's certainly true that Microsoft has engendered a large subculture, but I don't think you could prove that that market would be smaller or less vibrant if there was greater competition in the OS market. It's entirely possible that your specific section would be - you make your money by compensating for flaws in Microsofts product - but the market of third party/customized solutions would probably be at least as large and as profitable. By the way, as long as we're talking about hidden costs, the costs of companies such as yours provides are an excellent demonstration of them.

    If Linux fanboys want to convince, they need to make a product that works as well as the competition.
    In my experience (I'm 31 and have been watching freeware since 1984 when I started my first BBS), that hasn't happened often.

    Of course, there are millions of people who disagree with you. What "works as well" is often subjective. A big part of the issue is convincing people (who, thanks to the MS monopoly, have generally only experienced Windows) is that "different" is not "worse". This is a hard sell and is one reason alternate operating systems have such an uproad hill to acceptance in the general market.

    Word documents have become the de facto standard for document exchange and are what has locked many people into staying with Microsoft Word. Really? My users (nearly 90% in our last questionnaire) love the Word interface and look-and-feel.

    Self-selected surveys are *great* for backing up your already felt convictions, aren't they? How many of your users are even aware of alternatives to Word? Of the ones who have, how many would even consider switching if they were told they couldn't keep compatability with Word documents, even if there were (potentially massive) cost savings? There's a saying about the value of your share of the IT market being the cost of all your customers to switch away from your product - Microsoft relies very heavily on that to keep customers from switching.

    This book is ridiculous, and is pointing the blame at a non-monopoly instead of at competitors who don't know how to compete.

    And here is where the real fanboy stuff shows through. Microsoft is *absolutely* a monopoly. There is no question about it whatsoever. You can argue a lot about how they got there, and you can pin blame on IBM and Novell and everyone else, and you can claim that MS deserves its status and it's un-American to limit them, but claiming with a straight face that they aren't a monopoly is just retarded.

  13. Re:Who to blame? Idiot competitors by max+born · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Microsoft has been on top for a while, but it isn't anything unnatural -- they've created a product that billions of people LIKE using.

    You make a good case for Microsoft but your arguments are mostly personal (experiences) and are unreferenced. It's debatable whether Microsoft got to "be on top" because people like there system or because they had no choice.

    I'd suggest reading the Findings of Fact from the Microsoft antitrust case. It's quite revealing. It details, for example, exactly how Microsoft threatened vendors with severe consquences if they even considered selling computers with competing software.

  14. Re:Who to blame? Idiot competitors by Airline_Sickness_Bag · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm not being a Microsoft fanboy here, I just wanted to make it clear that Microsoft is producing a huge market than many of us here rely on. Microsoft uses their profit for positive benefits to society as well: 1 2 3 4 These are just a few from November, 2005.

    Did you know that Microsoft paid no Federal taxes in 1999? And they paid 1.8% on 21.9 billion in pretax profit for 2000-2001.

    Also, Microsoft employs more than 12,000 people. These people likely buy products or use services that your employer produces.

    GM is going to lay off 30,000 people. They buy products or use services that your employer produces. Better go out and buy a Chevy tonight.

  15. Re:Who to blame? Idiot competitors by futuresheep · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I'm not being a Microsoft fanboy here

    Yes, you are.

    Microsoft uses their profit for positive benefits to society as well: 1 2 3 4 These are just a few from November, 2005.

    Two articles are about the Gates Foundation, which is NOT Microsoft, one was about Google, and the last was actually about MS.

    Also, Microsoft employs more than 12,000 people. These people likely buy products or use services that your employer produces.

    They Actually employ more along the lines of 35,000 people, however, if they weren't there, that void would most likely be filled by someone else.

    My security company offers corporations the ability to be virus and spam free for less than $250 per user per year. For a 50-user network, you're looking at only $12,500 to bring us on. Considering most of my customers bill out at $150 per hour, for only 83 hours invested, we're likely saving them hundreds of hours in time saved. If they switched to a Mac, they're still going to need someone working on their spam and other problems, and I don't see a huge savings there over us.

    Or they could do the smart thing and use something like a Barracuda 400, which at less then $9000.00 for three years of maintenance and updates, is one hell of a lot cheaper than your fee. Considering they'd get free installation support from Barracuda Networks, it would be much, much, cheaper.

  16. Re:Who to blame? Idiot competitors by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This book is very similar to the Parable of the Broken Window by Bastiat.

    I agree, but it's the microsoft tax that is the broken window.

    Also, Microsoft employs more than 12,000 people. These people likely buy products or use services that your employer produces.

    Yes, and broken windows help employ glass makers.

    If you actually understood the parable, instead of just trotting it out to look smart, you'd realize that the money wasted on microsoft would flow into other areas of the economy, providing a greater net benefit than just giving it to microsoft.

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  17. Re:Pricing by Zathrus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    These were the prices that Best Buy reports on their web page and the prices that I have seen elsewhere as well

    And you think that Dell pays $200 for that copy of MS Windows XP Home Edition on that $300 PC?

    Hey, let's use your own pricing method for Linux -- apparantly the only way to get Linux is to pay $99 for Linspire at Best Buy.

    This is utterly stupid. The original poster was correct that the alleged prices listed in the book are complete and utter fabrications. Using bogus numbers to make your point doesn't just fail against anyone with a clue, it undermines your points that are valid. There are plenty of valid reasons to go with Linux over Windows, particularly in a typical office environment. Stick to them.

  18. Re:Facts would be a good start by ergo98 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I haven't used a new MS OS in quite a while, so you may be correct. Perhaps the red screen of death has replaced the blue screen of death, so you would be then quite correct:)

    Actual, bonafide system crashes are virtually non-existent for most users, though of course they do occur for a small subset with shoddy hardware and/or shoddy drivers (though the same case exists for Linux as well. The OS can protect against crappy hardware, and both operating systems give kernel-mode drivers enough leeway to take down the system, which is why on both systems you need quality drivers. If one really wants super-stability, QNX is always available). I use both XP and 2003 daily, under very intense scenarios, and haven't seen an actual system crash in literally years. The same holds for my peers. Anecdotes suck, but I haven't heard from anyone (without an agenda) complaining about system crashes in a long, long time.

    You're right that there still is a Microsoft tax, however that gets to the core of why I left the prior message: Linux has a tonne of things going for it, but instead of evangelizing the positives of Linux, somehow it always comes down to the negatives of Windows. To make matters worse, this hyperbolic evangelism oft resorts to gross exaggerations (the frequency of crashes and the cost of Windows) or completely made-up "facts". It diminishes the cause more than it helps it.

  19. An old point; and an obvious, current one by 70Bang · · Score: 2, Insightful



    When cleaning out a section of the garage to unload antiques from a deceased family member's house, I hit the inevitable: boxes of old magazines. When I'm done in the house, they get stacked, eventually boxed, and finally pushed into the garage, and somehow forgotten until we need more room (the books are boxed and are such they don't take up room.

    Last night, I hit a box of ca. '94-'95, and the cover of an Economic Review asks, "How Dangerous is Microsoft?" with a web and WHG III's head on the body of a spider, waiting for prey to get caught. In a strange way, it's interesting how the same questions have come up over & over & over for at least ten years.

    One of the things I've pointed out before (and should just save on HD) is the fact Microsoft is failing in one of its most powerful areas: marketing. I'd be greatly surprised if someone (bald? turns red easily?) doesn't promise someone in Marketing that if they don't come up with a way to pry the corporate sector's fingers off of the unholy trinity of Win2K (general service expired 06/30/05 but Microsoft tossed a couple of rollup SPs), Office2K and VS 6.0, they won't have to worry about a lump of coal in their stocking, it'll be the insertion of a broomstick which won't be removed until the problem is fixed.

    I have to put "finding numbers I can cite" on my ToDo list. The number of individual licenses in the corporate world for Win2K alone is well into six digits. The TCO for these environments has to be staggeringly low. All joking aside about the Microsoft Seal of Software Quality stamped on discs, Win2K, Office2K, and VS6.0 seem to be Triplet Sons of Different Mothers. They dovetail so well and are probably the sturdiest products Microsoft has put out which don't clobber each other. (Please don't cite problems you encountered as exceptions to disprove the rule. I'm quite serious about this. Look at all of their other products and make an objective analysis. But as Winston Churchill used to say, "The lesser of two evils is still evil.")

    Microsoft would love to replace those three products with their descendents. They'd probably like to replace SQL2K with SQL05 as those same shops are likely not to upgrade there, either. We're talking massive revenue+profit for Microsoft (not to mention huge commissions for Sales), and hardware vendors would suffer from priapism for a couple of months because the new software would perform so poorly on the old hardware. The corporations, however, would see their budgets melt to the point any form of bonuses, even those executives who are exempt from the freezes everyone else is vulnerable to, would likely get just a free pair of movie tickets as a show of gratitude. The TCO would go from fractions of a cent to incalcuable dollars. Massive scheduling would have to take place to figure out who could be upgraded when (both hardware & software) in conjunction with getting them trained, as well as the technical staff, yadda-yadda. Worst of all, their profits (what profits?), okay, they'd miss their earnings and p%ss off shareholders for six or seven quarters trying to make up for the big technology jump.

    Basically, Microsoft screwed up. Remember the joke about the pig that had a cork shoved up its posterior, was fed & fed & fed, got fatter & fatter, won award after award at every fair & exhibition the owners could find? When it was all said & done, they realized they had to pull the cork. So they trained a monkey to do it. When the time came, someone couldn't resist trying to get just close enough to watch the grand event. After the explosion, they found this guy and asked him what happened. He said, "well, about the time the sh%t started flying, the only thing I could see was the monkey trying to push the cork back in."

    Microsoft has done something similar with corks. Except it's the geese which lay golden eggs. They motivated the corporations to cork the geese so Microsoft can't grab anything of

  20. Re:Pricing by CoderBob · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Thank you. Nobody seems to realize that you can go to your local emporium de computers and pick up a $350 system that comes with XP Home. Try building a system with XP Home for that price, and see how well it works once you pay for the stand-alone license for XP Home. Just had someone I was helping do that- he spent $199US on XP Home (Non-upgrade). You want XP Pro? It's gonna cost more, yes, and you'll probably pay enough to offset some of that OEM savings- but not if the system is sold with XP Pro by default.

    OEM discounts are bringing a LOT of people into the market, because they can afford these entry-level PCs. Many of them even come with 60-day "trials" of Office- sometimes with reduced pricing for "buying" the full version.

    People see the PC more and more as an appliance- and are looking at paying appliance prices for something that just works. Not something that they have to build or maintain. They don't want you to put it together for them- they want to plop down the piece of plastic, walk out with a couple boxes, struggle a minute with the cables and connecting periphials (kinda like hookin up a VCR or DVD player, right?) and then sit down to use it. The gratification of a purchase that they can use is a hard thing to compete with, espcially for those that do not have the desire or inclination to tinker with a running system.

    I see more systems on a weekly basis where people are limping along running Windows 9x, or even **shudder** ME, because their system works. Sure, it isn't fast, but they don't want that. It's got problems, but most of those are like a pair of shoes that have been worn a lot- they're familiar things that just aren't what they used to be.

    They want something that they can power on, do whatever, shut down, and not think about- and for them, that's Windows. Something goes wrong? Well, they've got the restore discs, or they pay someone like me to fix it. The only things they care about are:

    A) Ease of use. Which means, most likely, password-less logins, if they even see a login screen at all. A web browser that works for what they want it to do- which means no Firefox, because it breaks all of the horribly designed pages that they frequent (Anyone notice you get a "Document contains no data" trying to register a Yahoo! Mail account?) and explaining this to them means nothing. It also means regular MS Office if they need that functionality, because that's what the night class they took used, and it's all they know, and "Don't bother showing me that one, I'll stick with Word, thanks."

    and B) Who can fix it? Well, in the case of pre-built PCs, they've got all kinds of options, ranging from the local geek to the store they bought it from to the company that made it in the first place. A system you built for them? Well, what happens if you aren't around to fix it? Or can't?

    Face it, until you start seeing systems with other OSes from big-name manufacturers (Dell, HP, Sony) in BB or CrapUSA, or whatever your local jerk-you-around electronics retail outlet is, the public isn't going to want to bother with it- they "don't need that fancy stuff, I just need my e-mail and my {website of choice}." You cannot convince them otherwise, because they don't see it anywhere but where us nerds talk about it- and then what do they see? "Players hacked an XBox to run Linux"?? Hack has a bad connotation to them- they don't understand the difference between hacking and cracking. "Linux involved in IP dispute with SCO"?? "Linux user gets around DRM on copy-protected disc, earns X years in jail for violating DMCA"?

    The media knows who pays it for advertising, and it sure isn't open source OSes.

  21. You don't understand what a monopoly is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "And you have that choice, right? Which instantly destroys anyone else's "Microsoft is a monopoly!" claim.

    A company having a monopoly does not mean they have 100% of the market. It means that they have such a dominant position that normal market forces no longer operate effectively.

  22. PowerPoint by slackmaster2000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've always found it strange how so many anti-Microsoft arguments will include some reference to PowerPoint and how it is somehow responsible for bad presentations.

    PowerPoint is a fine program for what it does, which is probably why it's so popular. Yes, it can be used poorly, so what. It's not Microsoft's fault. Microsoft didn't invent presentation software, and isn't forcing people to give bad presentations. Other programs like Impress serve the same function, and can be misused just as easily. Used properly, these tools can be very beneficial for both the presenter and the audience.

    Adding poor arguments like this one into the mix with good arguments only weakens the better arguments. There are plenty of valid reasons out there for disliking Microsoft and Microsoft software - PowerPoint is not one of them. It doesn't help spread viruses or introduce malware, it doesn't hinder workflow, and it doesn't seem to have as many irritating stability issues as the other programs in the Office suite.

  23. Re:Pricing by Shawn+is+an+Asshole · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Windows XP Home: $88
    Windows XP Pro: $139
    Office 2003 Student/Teacher Edition: $129
    Office 2003 Basic Edition: $169

    Check Nextag for even lower prices.

    Plus if you a student at many colleges (at least all CC's around here in Fl) the school will give you XP Pro, Visual Studio (Enterprise Edition), etc for "free," though that's more like a dealer giving you something free so you get addicted...

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  24. Reviewer is Wrong by Zobeid · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Reviewer wrote:

    . . .it must noted that Microsoft is simply one in a long line of companies that have used their size and deep pockets to quash the competition. Microsoft is not alone and joins companies such as American Airlines, Ford and General Motors, Wal-Mart and more that have engaged in practices that while good for their stockholders, have not been good for the competition."


    That statement shows unawareness of Microsoft's history for the last 20 years. Yes, all those other companies have had ethical lapses. Shady practices and bullying are commonplace among big business, it's undeniably true. However. . .

    None of them even come close to Microsoft. The bullying, lying, cheating, stealing and sabotage that Microsoft have carried out -- blatantly and relentlessly for two decades -- make Sony and Wal-Mart look like boy scout camps. Just because everybody cheats doesn't make it OK for Microsoft to cheat, and sure as hell doesn't make it OK for them to cheat twenty times as much as everybody else. And that's before we even get to how the majority of Microsoft's products have been either seriously flawed, or they were five years behind what other companies had done, or both.

    I already got rid of all my Microsoft products some while back, and saving a few bucks had nothing to do with it. (They don't give away Mac OS X, anyhow.) Here are some better reasons to ditch Microsoft:

    1. Not helping to support a company that has willfully and maliciously caused tremendous harm to the computer industry.

    2. Not doing business with a company that has ripped off customers for countless billions, and will undoubtedly rip you off too, if you give them a chance.

    3. Avoiding the spyware and DRM that Microsoft would like to slip into your computer.

    4. Avoid the many security holes that riddle Microsoft products like swiss cheese.

    5. Buy from companies that don't have a track record of putting out crummy products.

    The problem, of course, is that people on the whole don't care about right and wrong. Or if they do, they think it's somebody else's problem to do something about it. They may grumble that the DOJ didn't crack down on Microsoft, but the same people will be standing in line to get a XBox 360.

    "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke

    And unfortunately, that's exactly what most good people do. Nothing. Ignore the problem. Tune out the few who complain. Tar them as fanatics or kooks, then you can safely ignore them too. Rationalize.

    "Microsoft cheats, but so what? All the big companies do."

    "Look at all the innovation Microsoft brought to computers!"

    "They wouldn't be so huge and successful if they weren't providing what people want, after all."

    "What are you, some kind of communist?"

    But if you scratch under the surface, past all the excuses and rationalization, what they're really thinking is: "Man, I want to play Halo 3. . ." And they probably don't even know or care that Bungie was a star Macintosh developer before Microsoft bought them out.
  25. Re:Enough. by Americano · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I have to agree with the parent poster's point. I'm a reasonably experienced software engineer, and have worked for the last 8 years on or with Windows, Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, Red Hat Linux, Gentoo Linux, and Fedora Core Linux. I have some rudimentary sys admin skills. I can -- and have -- set up, to a functional, networked state, all of the systems above, and can troubleshoot them when things go wrong, given a couple books, google, and a few days -- I'm certainly not a "professional" sys admin, but I can do the basics with a little time & research.

    I use Windows XP Pro (SP2) at home, and have been for at least a year and a half now... before that, I was using Windows 2000. With XP, I don't get the BSOD that everybody incessantly complains about, and I've *never* seen my system have one of those "random reboots" somebody else mentioned, unless my power goes out. Still haven't gotten around to buying a decent UPS for my home system, because I really don't do too much critical work there.

    No, Windows XP isn't perfect, and I'd never claim it is... I'd love to see my system support firewire devices better, since they sometimes cause the system to begin spitting out "delayed write" errors, and force me to reboot. Sometimes a process or two gets out of control with CPU / RAM usage, and the system starts getting flaky, so I reboot. Sometimes, on reboot, my iPod Service hangs, and I have to reboot into safe mode to disable it, then re-enable it after I get logged in... Windows isn't perfect, and anybody who claims it is is lying.

    However, Linux is by no means a better solution, at least for me. A few months back, I attempted to install Fedora Core 4 on the same system, with the same devices that I use under Windows without any particular issues: a printer, a scanner, a digital camera, a bluetooth usb dongle w/keyboard & mouse, a web cam, a wireless card, a radio receiver, an iPod, and an external USB drive for backups. Bottom line is, I had MUCH more frustration getting all of this to work under Fedora Core 4, and spent about 10 times more time than I did setting up Windows, and I never managed to get everything up & running before I decided to say, "Screw this," and reinstalled Windows again. Here's the issues I ran into:
    • My webcam worked -- but ONLY when it wasn't plugged into a USB hub -- ONLY if plugged directly into the port would it work properly.
    • My Linksys wireless card required about 2 weeks of research and fiddling before I could get it up and running... thank god I happened to have a card with a chipset that Linux supports, or I'd still be working on it.
    • Bluetooth: well, let's just say the only way I could get my bluetooth mouse & keyboard to work was if I *disabled*! the Bluetooth services that start up during Fedora boot... and even then, the bluetoogh pairing for the keyboard & mouse would stop working.
    • Speaking of crashes... GTKPod crashed. Repeatedly.
    • OpenOffice... slow & ugly... not very impressed with what I saw, it looked like a cheap knockoff of Office that was slower, and didn't work as well. Perhaps 2.0 looks better... but the 1.x I tried wasn't very compelling, or useful.
    • Thunderbird: Worked Okay... but to me, not significantly different than Outlook Express. I prefer using Outlook to OE, because I prefer the familiar interface.
    • Firefox: Actually pleased with this experience, and like it enough that it's my primary browser on my Windows system now. LOVE the tabbed browsing.
    • Video & Audio support for FC4 was pure, unmitigated SHITE... the only way I got it to work for all of the music & video files I tried watching was by following instructions I found through google to hack together a copy of MPlayer -- which led me into dependency hell -- MPlayer was good, once it worked, but the video & audio was choppy. Oh, and let's also not forget that, if you start a program from the command line, any audio event in the Gnome gui kills the audio or video you're
  26. Re:Who to blame? Idiot competitors by bobintetley · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think it's well agreed upon that the proliferation of PCs is at least in part due to Microsoft, whose products are easy to use, even for novices. No matter what you want to think, Linux is NOT easy for inexperienced users.

    How exactly is the PC revolution all thanks to Microsoft and their "ease of use for novices"? The PC revolution was well underway before the existence of Windows. I remember helping customers use software I'd written for their 286 notebook luggables running DOS 3 well before Windows made it with WFW.

    If you really want less money to go to Microsoft, good sir, then I suggest you run down to the pub, gather up all your friends, and get to work on a product that genuinely replaces Windows. A product that gets the job done on high-end servers, cheap notebooks, and PDAs. A product that may not be perfect (or even close) but one that makes sense to the AVERAGE user. I wish you good luck, and remember: Linux does not meet the above requirements.

    *sigh*. Yes. It does. I've converted MANY friends and family to Linux and I have far less support calls than with Windows. You see, the problem lies in the "Power Users" group - people who think they know about computers when in actual fact they only really think they know about Windows. They expect to load up an alternative operating system and have it work just like Windows. Your average Joe User can happily use a setup Linux machine without noticing too much difference because using Thunderbird/Firefox/OO on *nix is not much different to Outlook/IE/Office on Windows (seriously, how many of those whizbang office features do you think your average person uses?).

    What we need to do is educate people rather than make a clone of Windows - if you let Microsoft set the rules we'll be playing catchup forever. Getting something else on OEM PCs would help since Joe Average can't exactly replace the Windows he's given now, can he?

    The general followers use phrases like "whining Windows ex-pats" and come off as total assholes.

    I think it's a good description of the Windows users who tend to complain that "Linux isn't ready for the desktop" based on the 5 minutes following an Ubuntu/Fedora install and before returning to Windows.

    And as for the asshole comment, you're a dick :-)

  27. Say "NO" to MS, you affect your economic viability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You say "NO" to Microsoft, you're saying "NO" to your marketability out there, period... & this isn't just with apps you use, but for you developers out there that code on PC's period.

    (For instance - I always felt Borland's compilers were FAR better & produced better code than Microsoft's stuff (e.g.-> VB &/or VC++ vs. Delphi & Borland C++ or C++ Builder) BUT, what is used the MOST? Microsoft Visual Studio)

    Sure, you can save a few dollars & even learn something in the process using OpenSource tools... but, that's cutting off your nose to spite your face (in this case, your wallet & bank accounts).

    This is coming from a guy that's been around computers since 1982, & professionally since 1985 or so (mainframe/midrange as an end-user, to PC today mostly (including server mgt. &/or client-server development), & I've seen this before with the old saying:

    "NOBODY EVER GOT FIRED FOR BUYING IBM"

    (Except today, that saying's changed -> replace the IBM with Microsoft)

    APK

    P.S.=> Believe me, I understand how you "Pro-Linux/UNIX" fiends feel, you think your stuff is the best (for whatever it is you do & doubtless for your use-patterns it is & the task @ hand)... I felt that way (hell, KNEW IT, about Borland compilers, especially Delphi & "King Billy" Gates even showed me it by buying out Anders Heijelsberg from Borland - he knew Delphi knocked the HELL out of VB & VC++ (especially in math & strings, which every program does & was shown so in of all places, Visual Basic Programmer's journal issue Sept./Oct. 1997 article entitled "inside the vb5 compiler engine") & now? I see things like "Data Containers" in VB that were in Delphi for YEARS!

    Still, you cut MS outta your life? Your affecting your resume, income, & possibly your future (@ least financially)... apk

  28. Re:Pricing by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Dealers always say they're your friends. ;-) Did you pay for your first experience with drugs?

  29. Re:bullshit by MrResistor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I recently bought a new PC for $350. Adding up the prices of the components I know about (100GB hd, 3000+ AMD proc, mobo, modem, case, CD burner, 256mb ram, mouse, keyboard, etc) comes to around $200-250. I'm sure they make some profit (lets say $50) and I'm sure Best Buy wanted their cut too (maybe another $50?). I'm now struggling to see where the supposed $100 for XP Home comes from, never mind MS Works which was also included.

    So you say there are volume discounts for software, but not hardware? A more reasonable approach might be to add up what it would cost you to buy everything (use "OEM" prices if you like), and assume the larger manufacturers get about the same discount on everything.

    Yeah, they pay a lot less for each copy of Windows than we do, but it isn't $0.

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  30. Its another brick in Microsoft's tombstone. by crovira · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It starts with a bunch of machines that people don't want to replace because it co$ts and managers don't get bonuses from spending money.

    The eventual demise of Microsoft will come from the same source that saw the rise of the 'compatible' PC. It was cheaper than the alternative.

    It doesn't matter how well your system is running, Microsoft is living proof that quality is not that important, but how little you had to shell out for something 'good enough.'

    Cost of replacement and the slowing of the replacement cycle is going to be the death of Microsoft and give rise to cheap Linux boxes.

    Books about OpenOffice (or NeoOfficeJ for older Macs) are telling people that its okay NOT to have to shell out the bucks for Microsoft (or even Apple).

    I suspect that Vista will be an utter failure because people have a vested interest, read lots of bucks, in their existing machines.

    When 'Joe Consumer' is faced with hanging on to his machine under Linux with OpenOffice or spendin '"beaucoup" bucks' he'll wave Microsoft 'Bye Bye' before he tosses all that green on all new hardware.

    Would YOU like to have to cough up money to buy a new 64bit processor, gigs of RAM, a new mobo and a new video card, just to run an incrementally 'better' Windows experience.

    Fuck that... My wallet and I voted for Linux years ago, though I my wife still owns an aging Win2K Windows box and I still own a couple of OS X 10.4.3 Macs. My last machine is an ADM64 Athlon running slackware.

    People are going to vote just as they always have, with their wallets.

    Not just Joe Consumer, but the corporation bosses who are stuck to buy 5K, 10K, 15K, or 20K boxes at a shot. We're still running Win2K and would still be running WinNT if we could.

    Books about HOW TO DO IT for less are EXACTLY what's needed. They're not written for you. They're written for 'Joe Consumer' and to get the idea to the corporation bosses.

    Just brace yourselves for all those AOLers and other newbies getting on /. asking for help with Samba. :-)

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