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Macro Lens from a Pringles Can

isharq writes "In a cool little feat of extremely low-tech hardware hacking, Photocritic has created a macro lens out of a Pringles can. According to the article: "with less than £1 worth of equipment, a little bit of sweat and tears, you can build yourself a surprisingly good macro lens". The results are astonishing."

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  1. The results are astonishing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    And the chips aren't half-bad either.

    1. Re:The results are astonishing by Golias · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Astonishing indeed.

      NEWS FLASH: Hallow tube may be used to do the job of... a hallow tube.

      Next on Slashdot: Make a crude beer stein out of an ordinary measuring cup!

      (Insert oblig. "hacking is way cooler than just BUYING a beer stein like the rest of the sheep!!!1! It's about the JOURNEY d00d!!" comment in response to howls of laughter over such a useless activity.)

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    2. Re:The results are astonishing by bgarcia · · Score: 4, Funny
      NEWS FLASH: Hallow tube may be used to do the job of... a hallow tube.
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    3. Re:The results are astonishing by Infinityis · · Score: 2, Funny

      You keep using the name "Inigo Montoya". I do not think you know who atually said that line.

  2. Wrong. by mrtroy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't piss in my ear and tell me its raining!

    Next, you are going to tell me that you can make some sort of 802.11 antenna with a pringles can.

    And whats with this "do it yourself" building projects? My fingers are too greasy and fat to perform such feats.

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  3. Hmmmm ..... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe they should have taken the money they saved on their macro lens and upgraded their server/connection.

    Their server seems to have been reduced to rubble. Anyone got a mirror?

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    1. Re:Hmmmm ..... by Kadin2048 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah really. It was Slashdotted before there were any posts on the article, I think. Is that a record?

      The Coral Cache seems to be working okay. Some of the photos seem to be missing, though, and the background is a little messed up (although perhaps it's that way on the 'real' site also). Link for the lazy:
      http://www.photocritic.org.nyud.net:8090/2005/macr o-photography-on-a-budget/

      Basically what the guy does is take a SLR body cap, cut it up with a dremel and use it as a mounting ring to attach a pringles can, which is essentially an extension ring to move a inexpensive 50mm prime lens further away from the film plane. I'm not knocking this guy's work -- it's a pretty neat idea -- but really he's doing a DIY extension tube, not a lens.

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    2. Re:Hmmmm ..... by M1FCJ · · Score: 2, Informative

      These kinds of extension tubes are quite common things, and cheap. I have a number of them for my M42 mount cheap-ass Praktika camera. I think they cost about 2 pounds overall.
      The guy has a D20, if he is rich enough to pay for that camera, he should ne able to afford a proper and good macro lens. Extension tubes are a pain when you are holding the camera and trying to focus but they are cheap alternatives for the real thing. I think the correct terminology is bellows or something like that. I have the stuff lying around but never bothered the learn the correct terminology. :)

    3. Re:Hmmmm ..... by Kjella · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah really. It was Slashdotted before there were any posts on the article, I think. Is that a record?

      Hardly. Ever since slashdot got subscriptions sites have regularly been down and out before the first comment. Must be one of the only good things about being a subscriber, you could actually RTFA (though it seems optional). Anyway, I love DIY articles where you do a MacGyver with two bits of string and a chewing gum, but this is like.. "Ok, we have $X thousand dollars of SLR equipment, let's try using duct tape!"

      How much would an actual extension ring cost? I did a quick search and I'm looking at prices in the $10-20 dollar range. Wohoo. It's like "How to build your golden Rolls Royce for $5: 1. Buy a can of gold spray 2. Spray it on your Rolls Royce." Let me know when you can make high-percision optics or high-quality CCDs on the cheap, and I'll attach this pringles can to it.

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    4. Re:Hmmmm ..... by indifferent+children · · Score: 5, Funny
      Anyone got a mirror?

      No, but you can make a mirror from an old CD.

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    5. Re:Hmmmm ..... by Kadin2048 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah, I almost pointed that out as well, but I figured that some people would say that even $20 or whatever a legitimate bellows or extension tube costs is big bucks to them, and how dare I suggest that it was cheap. :)

      But you're right, the part he's replacing isn't a terribly expensive one. And frankly I don't have a bunch of extra body caps sitting around either. (For some reason I'm always short them, probably because you only get one with each camera body, and they like to grow legs and wander off.)

      Some of the macro bellows can get quite pricey -- I just did a quick google and some of them are $500+ (for Leicas I think), however there are also ones on ebay for less than $60, so I don't doubt that a person could find one cheap if they looked for more than five minutes. The actual Canon extension tube that this pringles can is simulating retails for about $170, and I'm sure there are generic parts for a lot less.

      In short I think this review might be interesting for someone who wants to try macro photography, but unless you're dirt poor and inherited the camera or received it as a gift or something, it's not terribly expensive to get a real extension tube, and I think anyone would be a lot happier.

      Plus with a real tube, there's not the same risk of having the lens fall off the front of it and go crashing to the ground. And no pringles grease on your lens, either -- frankly this is what would keep me from ever putting my lens inside a Pringles tin. Can you say oily?

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  4. Lens, my foot! by winkydink · · Score: 3, Informative

    He built an extension tube from a Pringles can and stuck a Canon lens on the front. This is not "building a lens".

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    1. Re:Lens, my foot! by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Informative
      He built an extension tube from a Pringles can and stuck a Canon lens on the front. This is not "building a lens".

      From what I know, that's typically how macro lenses are done.

      My father had all manner of steel-tubes and a billows arrangement for his macro setup. Ultimately, it was his same 50mm objective lens which was on the front of the camera.
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    2. Re:Lens, my foot! by winkydink · · Score: 2, Informative

      Most major camera lens-makers now offer purpose-built macro lenses. The advantage is you'll get more control over depth of field. Well, that and you can use it as a normal lens.

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    3. Re:Lens, my foot! by scharkalvin · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually a true macro lens usually has additional lens elements to correct for various defects resulting from the decreased subject to lens distance. Also they stop down more. While a 'normal' lens can stop down to F16 (sometimes F22), a true macro will go down to F32 or even F45 for greater depth of field.

    4. Re:Lens, my foot! by fizzup · · Score: 2, Informative

      Uh, if you can stop a 50mm lens down to F16, and you put in a 50mm spacer, then the highest stop is now F32. You don't expect the markings on the lens tube to change automatically when you add a Pringles can, do you?

    5. Re:Lens, my foot! by SlashSquatch · · Score: 2, Funny
      Yeah, the *nerve* of that guy to try to pass that off as a legitimate project. [SARCASM]

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      I ate very nice tomatoes that year. Nuts to gardening, I prefer to eat!

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    6. Re:Lens, my foot! by Don+Negro · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're corrent that he didn't build a lens. That misrepresetation is the editor/submitters fault. It's entirely possible neither of them knew any better.

      I want to point out that any vitriol anyone needs to spew about this should be directed to the editor himself, and not confused with comments about this guy's work. He built a cool hack, turning several pieces of cheap equipment into one piece of expensive equipment in the finest tradition of geekiness.

      Just because someone mischaracterised his work doesn't make his work of lesser intrinsic value. It's not what we were told it was when we clicked on the article, but it's pretty cool in and of itself. Let's not let that get lost.

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    7. Re:Lens, my foot! by morcheeba · · Score: 2, Informative

      I know the parent knows this, but for everyone else...

      The reason you'd want greater depth of field with a macro setup is that macro photographs have incredibly short depth of field. With a good set of bellows (mine are probably the length of a pringles can), your depth of field can easily be only 1mm. This makes photographing things that are 2-3mm big a challenge because you have to have the object perpendicular to the lens to be in focus -- that's a pretty boring straight-ahead shot. Extra depth of field lets you look at whatever it is off-axis, which is usually much more interesting.

    8. Re:Lens, my foot! by plover · · Score: 4, Funny
      Reminds me of the comment track from the recent DVD release of the movie Tron. Because the actors were shot in such low light on a black stage, the cameraman had to open his lenses wide to be able to film the scenes. And the wider you open the aperture, the thinner the depth of field. At one point the cameraman told the director "I can't hold focus on the whole actor any more, what do you want me to focus on?" The director responded "his face." The cameraman replied "No, I can't even get the whole face in focus, what part do you want to see?" The director said "his eyes."

      The cameraman then asked "which eye?"

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  5. Not a lens but by scharkalvin · · Score: 4, Informative

    What he really built was an extension tube to allow an ordinary
    lens to focus closer.

  6. Mirrordot to the rescue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://mirrordot.org/stories/a6cd3d2482ab26fa99636 acc4d255044/index.html

    Why don't the /. tech monkeys include a Mirrodot/Coral Cache link as part of the story template? It would help defray the /. effect (smoldering servers and whatnot).

  7. Mirror by winkydink · · Score: 4, Informative
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  8. Macro lens? by Hatta · · Score: 3, Interesting

    And what is a "macro lens"? How does it differ from a normal lens?

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    1. Re:Macro lens? by cosinezero · · Score: 5, Informative

      Most lenses are designed to focus on things in the FAR range - ~10+ feet. Macro lenses can focus on things very close or very small - in the 1' range.

      So if you plan on shooting yet another flower and calling it 'art', you need a macro lens.

      Note that many recent digitals offer moderate macro functions and do not require a macro lens.

    2. Re:Macro lens? by Annoying · · Score: 4, Informative

      A macro lens is capable of taking pictures of things in much more detail than a normal lens. Think of a steel countertop at a moderate distance it would look much like an ordinary camera picture of it would, but if you look a littlem ore carefully even from a few feet away you can usually see scratches in the surface. A macro lens allows you to focus closer than the usual minimum focal distance so you can capture that detail. Normally you'd only be able to get so close and then it'd just get blurry instead of clearer macro lenses are designed to overcome that limitation.

    3. Re:Macro lens? by robathome · · Score: 5, Informative

      Focusing distance is not sufficient to qualify a lens as a macro. There are close focusing lenses that are not macro, and there are macro lenses with long focal lengths that don't focus particularly close.

      A true "macro" lens is defined as a lens that allows for at least 1:1 reproduction of the subject image on the recording media. For the sake of simplicity, we'll talk film. If you photograph an object that is 1/2" across, and the resulting recorded image on the film is also 1/2" in size, you're shooting macro. A "macro lens" is one that is capable of rendering at least this 1:1 reproduction.

      Unfortunately, many camera/lens manufacturer have abused the term to mean "focuses at a (slightly) closer distance than a normal lens at an identical focal length, so that when printed to standard 4x6 the image is life-size." This, of course, is regardless of the reproduction ratio of the lens. A rather silly definition, really, since any reasonable frame at any magnification can be cropped and enlarged to "life size" up to a point before quality degrades enough to become unworkable.

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  9. Re:Slashdotted before the first post... by Georules · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sshh.. they were just testing thier Pringles can server running on a Pringles can amplified wireless network while beating Pringles can drums.

    Once you pop the fun don't stop, oh wait...

  10. The server... by zenneth · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...was probably constructed of a Pringles can, too.

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  11. Make sure you paint the outside of the can... by digitaldc · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...or you will end up looking like that biggest nerd on the planet.

    It is also great for viewing microscopic flakes of potato chip residue. Paper towel rolls, in all their inadequacy, are known to be suffering from lenses envy.

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  12. The first time I ever felt deceived by /. by Ka+D'Argo · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Occasionally there's some miswordings in article titles or you have to RTFA to really understand what the brief summary was trying to convey.

    But this is the first /. I've read that is totally, wrong. Sure you can make a cool macro lens out of a Pringles can for less than $1 but you forgot the important part you need a lens slash full normal 35mm camera already to pull this off.

    Totally misleading summary. Mod me down if you want, I'm not trying to flame but seriously this is just hitting a low for /.

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    1. Re:The first time I ever felt deceived by /. by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful
      But this is the first /. I've read that is totally, wrong. Sure you can make a cool macro lens out of a Pringles can for less than $1 but you forgot the important part you need a lens slash full normal 35mm camera already to pull this off.

      Yeah. Just like when someone points out that you can build an antenna for wireless networking with a Pringles can, it's all a big scam because you already needed to have a working computer and a wireless infrastructure, how lame. What a rip-off, you can't build the whole network with just the pringles can?

      We should all feel greatly deceived when there are any pre-requisites for a DIY project. I'm still waiting to get instructions on making a supercomputer completely out of a pumpkin, but no luck so far.

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    2. Re:The first time I ever felt deceived by /. by Dun+Malg · · Score: 2, Informative
      Yeah. Just like when someone points out that you can build an antenna for wireless networking with a Pringles can, it's all a big scam because you already needed to have a working computer and a wireless infrastructure

      False. When they say "build a Pringles can network antenna", they are literally building an antenna. This guy isn't building a macro lens, he's building an extension ring to adapt a regular existing lens for macro focusing.

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  13. Astonishingly.. lame by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 5, Insightful
    So all you need is:

    • A camera.
      • A SLR.
      • That you don't mind getting wrecked.
      • Due to getting Pringle-bits in the mechanical bits.
      • Or due to getting Pringle-salt in the mechanical bits.
      • With a removable lens.
      • But not a lens scheme that telemeters f-stop or focus or depth-of-field indicators or flash timer.
      • And not an old Retina-Reflex with the shutter built into the lens.
    • And you can stand putting duct-tape on a piece of precision equipment.
    • And you don't already have a lens with the twist-to-macro feature.
    • And you don't mind wrecking the lens when it falls off the end of the tube.
    • And you don't mind the idiocy of using a tube with reflective insides when optimally it should be just the opposite.

    Otherwise, it's a swell idea.

    1. Re:Astonishingly.. lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh yeah, but check this out, if you take a pringles tube and hold it up to one eye and then put your hand up right next to it it totally looks like you are looking through a hole in your hand... it's wicked awesome

    2. Re:Astonishingly.. lame by LordKronos · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, but a professional/semi-professional would just buy a REAL extention tube (if not a full out macro lens). Extention tubes are cheap. I think they start at $30-40. I bought a set of 3 different sizes for $80. And these are quality engineered parts with full support for aperture and auto-focus control.

  14. Dog bites man. No, not even that. Dog slobbers! by Myself · · Score: 2, Funny

    And a pox on the editor that approved this trash. Sure, it's neat that you can use a Pringles can as a lens mount. I've used them as coil winding cores, waveguides, insect traps, drums, cookie cutters, and even food storage containers before. Doesn't make it news!

    Of course, if I wrote up the cookie-cutter application as "Pringles can provides limitless food supply", it'd probably make the front page.

    1. Re:Dog bites man. No, not even that. Dog slobbers! by wik · · Score: 2, Funny

      >Of course, if I wrote up the cookie-cutter application as "Pringles can provides limitless food supply", it'd probably make the front page.

      It would be selected solely because it contains a grammar mistake.

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  15. Not 1£ lens by elgatozorbas · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This is a nice contraption, kudos to the guy.

    However it is a bit frustrating to see all these post lately 'build $$$ device at peanut cost' which then usually involve having all kinds of stuff in advance, e.g. "cannibalising a few of the lens- and body covers that most of us have laying around."

  16. Re:Ah the dissapearing dupe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    Slashdot, where we support freedom of speech and don't delete comments unless they embarass the editors!



    Slashdot, where everyone is so american that no one has any idea what Freedom of Speech is, and how it doesn't apply to private websites you read in your underwear and never pay for.

  17. Tune in next week... by Gigabit+Switchman · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...when I show you how to construct:
          - A working fusion reactor
          - A 3" mortar
          - A simple teleportation device
    AND
          - A cat ... from a Pringles can.

  18. mirror by MasterDirk · · Score: 5, Informative
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  19. Whatever next? by seniorcoder · · Score: 2, Funny

    Next, someone's gonna discover that these cans make convenient containers for chips.

  20. Extension ring, not a macro lens by BobaFett · · Score: 5, Informative

    What this guy built is an extension ring, not a macro lens. He used an existing lens, he chose non-macro lens, a macro lens would provide more precise focusing and flat focal plane but otherwise would work the same.

    What he built is called extension ring, it fits between the camera and the lens and allows extremely close focusing of any lens. Extension rings go for $20-$40, sometimes you can find them used for less, or you can by a set of 3 for around $100. Factory-made rings usually preserve automatic functions of the lens, at least aperture control, sometimes even autofocus. They are usually much shorter than the pringles can, anywhere from 9mm to 45mm (and you can stack them).

    So this little contraption does save you some bucks, just not as much as you might have hoped if you read the title and priced a macro lens.

    1. Re:Extension ring, not a macro lens by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I was thinking the same thing. He saved about $100 for extension tubes, for a $1200 camera. He also lost all automatic function, lost a bit of control (the normal 2 pack of extension tubes allows you 3 lengths depending how you stack). Ok fine, this is just a hobby, he can do what he wants...

      He also gets poorer optics by the fact that there is no way he can align the egdes to the tolerances of a real lens, even one as cheap as the 50mm mkII. I'd bet this would void all types of warranties. He looks like he has no back cover, just straight into the camera, meaning that any flash or residue from the surgery would end up inside his nice new camera. Fun to play with, but the savings not worth the risk to the electronics, especially since a commercial solution is safer and not that expensive. (and if the guy has a > $1000 digital SLR this isn't the cost optimization he should be looking at).

  21. Even easier by pqdave · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I use velcro to temporarily attach a $1.99 jeweler's loupe to the front of my point and shoot digicamera. Cost is similar to a box of Pringles, image quality is fine for web pics. By buying the $3.99 set of 5 loupes, I get a variety of magnification levels, down to a 2mm object taking up the full frame.

  22. Another cheap way to do macro photography by Metrathon · · Score: 3, Informative

    A very nice way to do macro photography is to place that 50 mm (or similar) lens reversed in front of your lens. You can buy a reversing ring for the purpose. It is easy to do if you only have threads for the reversing ring on your camera (many point and shoot digital don't). Just zoom in (to minimize vignetting) and stop down the lens you are mounting the (wide open) normal lens on.

  23. No need for such fancy projects by geogob · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you are serious about doing macro photography but don't have to budget to buy a macro lens for your SLR, best would be to use a lesn reversing ring to put the lens backwards on the camera. That way you can use your regular lens as a very good macro lens. Focusable, zoomable, what ever... won't even cost you much more then a box of pringles and no risk of geasing up your SLR.

  24. Re:Impressive by duffer_01 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Just think of what the Professor could have done with these cans!"

    Ginger's or Mary-Anne's?

  25. A foot is way long for midlevel modern digitals by ianscot · · Score: 3, Informative
    Macro lenses can focus on things very close or very small - in the 1' range... Note that many recent digitals offer moderate macro functions and do not require a macro lens.

    A foot away is just tremendous distance for a modern mid-priced digital camera. I have a Minolta-Konica Dimage Z5 whose "super macro" mode, while somewhat depth-of-field challenged, can take pictures within a centimeter of the lens. That's on a camera with an image-stabilized 12x optical zoom, too, so it's not like it's the intended strong point of the model. IIRC there's a slightly more recent Canon, also with a longer-than-normal optical zoom, that can take snaps of stuff that's essentially touching the face of the lens.

    That's on your $500-USD tier of cameras. Granted, the DOF is not perfect, and I'm sure it's less than a flat field, but the newest midlevel consumer digicams are lots better than a reflective Pringles can...

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  26. Cease and desist, citizen by Urusai · · Score: 4, Funny

    The RIAA has not granted you a license to use your CD in this manner. Why do you hate America??

  27. Summary of article. by deacon · · Score: 2, Insightful
    1: Take a cardboard tube that contains greasy, salt-laden + crumbs material.

    2: Using a dremel tool grind out the sheet steel bottom. Leave metal swarf and dust inside tube.

    3: Glom this mess onto your camera and lens.

    4: Wonder why your camera develops problems later.

    Seriously, read the article. The complete carelessness is horrible. This article is like a sick joke on people who don't know or think about the implications of getting salt and metal dust into their camera.

  28. IMDb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
    Not to say that IMDb is the final word on something, but...
    [Vizzini has just cut the rope The Dread Pirate Roberts is climbing up]
    Vizzini: HE DIDN'T FALL? INCONCEIVABLE.
    Inigo Montoya: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093779/quotes

    1. Re:IMDb by multipartmixed · · Score: 2, Funny

      When I mentally "hear" that line, it is indeed with a fake eh-spanish accent.

      Therefore, I conclude that IMDb is probably correct.

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  29. Another way to do it by photoflyer · · Score: 2, Informative

    I saw this and went down to the camera store to get a lens and body cap to mount it, and the owner, showed me something else that works better. I use a pentax k mount so there are a lot of old teleconverters and only for about 20 bucks. All you have to do is tap the lens elements on the edge to unscrew them. Then you have a very sturdy mount and about 25mm of extension.