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Would You Like Some Fries With That Download?

vodkamattvt writes The New York Times is reporting that the Walt Disney Company is hoping to replace happy meal toys with portable media players that could hold Disney movies, music, games, or photos. From the article: "The plan could work something like this: A customer enters a restaurant and buys a meal, receiving the portable media player and an electronic code that authorizes a partial download of a movie, video or other media file, which can be downloaded while in the restaurant, according to a United States Patent and Trademark Office application filed by Disney. Then, with each subsequent return, the customer earns more downloadable data, eventually getting an entire movie or game."

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  1. Obese! by holzp · · Score: 5, Funny

    The two causes of extreme obesity, finally togeather at last!

  2. Neat item- ought to be hackable by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    And hundreds of geeks start ordering happy meals- not for the meal, but for the WiFi media player, which will soon be hacked to refer to any arbitrary URI, and creative commons content.

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    1. Re:Neat item- ought to be hackable by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I wish the workers in my local McD's were that intelligent. Most of them say "Welcum to Madonna's" and stare at me blankly when I request a Wifi code with my extra-value meal....

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  3. Isn't there prior art? by planetoid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Aren't "partial downloads" prior art as far back as, oh, the era of the floppy disk? Back when warez wasn't distributed as ISOs but as dozens or hundreds of 1.44MB fragmented compressed files? I even remember downloading Slackware like that back in 1994/1995. What exactly is "new" about this to warrant a patent?

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  4. Hack 'em! by drewzhrodague · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just like all of these devices, from CueCats to disposable DV recorders, will be hacked. Bring 'em on!

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  5. Types of movies by ShaggyB · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mabey they could earn workout videos as downloads. If they have to visit a fast food joint 20 times to get the video, then they could watch their video to lose the calories they just racked up!

    1. Re:Types of movies by CagedBear · · Score: 4, Funny

      I was thinking vouchers for heart bypass surgery. In 15 second increments.

    2. Re:Types of movies by cyber0ne · · Score: 2, Insightful

      they could watch their video to lose the calories

      I'm afraid a little more effort than that will be required. Therein lies the problem, sadly. Everyone already knows how to exercise (running, biking, swimming, etc.) but they just don't care enough to do it.

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  6. I hope the first downloadable move is by chunews · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Supersize me"

  7. How long until by spectrum · · Score: 5, Funny

    Someone gets Linux on these things and creates the first McBeowulf?

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  8. does it come with nutrition splash screens? by passingNotes.com · · Score: 4, Interesting

    honestly, this kinda crap makes me ill...after hearing more about the mcdonald's and nintendo wifi deal i was already kinda getting heebie jeebies...but this new idea, fast food as a conduit for media distribution - that really is an affront to mankind (uh, okay, that's kinda extreme)...these kids are already struggling with obesity (read the data folks, our kids are mostly fat), and putting more distractions in front of them during quite possibly the only time in which they might eat and interact directly with their parents and siblings is just wrong, absolutely wrong...and since we know it's gonna be all disney ads and crap trailers and advertaintment, what the hell is the point? why not just let the media companies bid directly with parents on ourkids.ebay.com and let parents sell their kids' attention spans in five minute increments to the highest bidding media and product firms?

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    1. Re:does it come with nutrition splash screens? by generic-man · · Score: 3, Funny

      Kid: Take me to McDonald's please
      Mom: No
      Kid: But I can get a movie
      Mom: No go bittorrent a movie
      Kid: Okay
      Mom: And eat your healthy food
      Kid: Okay mom
      Mom: thx

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  9. Games by biocute · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I doubt movies will be popular, but games may actually be a good idea.

    First it rolls out trendy games (like King Kong or whatever's hot at that time).

    Then every week, it rolls out new levels for the game, which can be downloaded and brought home.

  10. Sounds like an extension, not a replacement by Kelson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The target audience for the Happy Meal is kids -- it's to give the kids something to play with during the meal and that they can take home.

    Something that you can't use until after you get home won't catch on with the kids... but it could work for adults.

    This sounds much more in line with the collector's drink cups or those sports-team bobble-heads you can sometimes get at fast food places than the classic kid's meal toy.

  11. Root Kit by mysqlrocks · · Score: 2, Funny

    Would you like a root kit with your meal?

  12. Restaurant Ratings by faqmaster · · Score: 5, Funny

    Once you hit 300 kgs you get the entire movie? This could provide a new way to rate restaurants: Frames per calorie.

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  13. Don't count on it any time soon. by thepotoo · · Score: 3, Insightful
    TFA says 30 months before approval... longer than that before you see one.

    If you ask me, we'll never see these, simply because a wifi media/game player costs money. Know how much a DS or PSP costs? I'm sure McDonalds can't afford to give away a $200 gaget with the purchase of a $3 meal.

    A free download for an existing DS/PSP might happen, but since none to many people have such, I dout it.

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    1. Re:Don't count on it any time soon. by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The price could be brought quite down to size with limited memory, a smaller B&W LCD screen (which allows for the limited memory because the movie file can be *much* smaller), and a specialized processor. Add to that the fact that the profit on a Happy Meal is already about $2, and specialized manufacturing, and you've got something that fits, probably for about $7-$10 manufacturing cost. Plus you wouldn't necessarily hand out a player with *every* Happy Meal- you ask the customer the age of the child, younger children (under 3) get the same crap plush toys they always did, preteens get the hard plastic crap toys, teenagers get asked if they *already have the player* in which case they get, instead of a new player, a card with a download URI on it for the next section of the file. Oh yeah, and adults ordering the "Smart Meals" still get debit cards preloaded with $1.....

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    2. Re:Don't count on it any time soon. by IAmTheDave · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The price could be brought quite down to size with limited memory, a smaller B&W LCD screen (which allows for the limited memory because the movie file can be *much* smaller), and a specialized processor.

      Unfortunately, and I may be alone, but this just sounds like more trash polluting the earth. McD's will give out or sell millions of these, people will be fascinated for mere minutes, and most will be discarded or throw into a toy chest, creating more silcion based hardly-biodegradable trash polluting the earth. It's like throw-away DVDs, except the chachki-effect may last a day or two longer.

      Am I the only one that feels this way? Anyone else notice it's Disney again creating all the damn trash? (Or, the ideas that create all the damn theoretical trash?)

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    3. Re:Don't count on it any time soon. by zippthorne · · Score: 2, Insightful

      you pay for the privilege of recycling? doesn't it strike you as odd that they aren't paying YOU for your materials --- which are supposedly easier to process than just digging them up?

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    4. Re:Don't count on it any time soon. by Reaperducer · · Score: 2, Informative

      Unfortunately, and I may be alone, but this just sounds like more trash polluting the earth. McD's will give out or sell millions of these, people will be fascinated for mere minutes, and most will be discarded or throw into a toy chest, creating more silcion based hardly-biodegradable trash polluting the earth.

      And how is this different from the trash that rolls off the assembly lines at Dell or eMachines?

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  14. I can see it now.... by commo1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Mommy! There's a bug in my burger!

  15. Somewhere down here in /. ... by hummassa · · Score: 2, Funny

    someone said an iPod has a cost of $50 or something. If you throw in some ads, ....

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  16. and a thousand chicken nuggets later by Loconut1389 · · Score: 2, Funny

    A thousand chicken nuggets later (and 50lbs heavier), the kid can watch an entire 80 minute disney movie. yay.

  17. Software media player? by shotfeel · · Score: 2, Informative

    After looking again, I'm thinking the writer of TFA is a little off. I can see a URL to a page to download a software media player and enter the code to download part of a movie. This business of giving away media players just doesn't make sense to me.

  18. Re:Bits and pieces? by Red+Flayer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "You want to keep them wanting more; if it takes 10 visits to see a whole cartoon (or whatever), chances are that the kid will lose interest"

    Not if their friends have gotten the new piece.

    Kids today are all up on the collectibles... they stay interested in Pokemon, or other CCGs for years, why would they lose interest in this after only 10 weeks?

    Especially if the content delivered is not the same for every download... then they 'gotta catch em all'.

    Genius.

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  19. lemme guess folder structure... by borawjm · · Score: 3, Funny

    McDocuments
    McFavorites
    McVideos
    McMusic
    ...
    ??

  20. First song is... by autophile · · Score: 4, Funny
    ...Weird Al Yankovic's "I'm Fat"!

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  21. Perhaps you should ask... A NINJA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    When I was a young boy, I awoke every morning to the delicious smell of pancakes. My mother, and father's dojo contained within it a hot griddle perfect for making pancakes, waffles, and a multitude of other pancake-like breakfast pastries. I remember them well -- The pleasant, care-free days of my childhood in the dojo were often spent peering into the kitchen with eager anticipation as my mother prepared pancakes my family.

    As I grew older, and began my journey to spiritual enlightenment, the memories of my pancake-eating youth filled my heart and dreams with warm, fluffy goodness....Ahhh, yes..the sweet, sweet memories... The day I ate 10 pancakes... The day I placed a warm pancake between my fleshy loins and performed the forbidden dance... The day pressed a pancake to my buttocks and encouraged my dog to come eat.. Indeed, much of my childhood was spent in pure innocence -- An innocence only pancakes can provide. It was heaven. A heaven, filled with pancakes, where I sat at the throne of God, with my hand-maidens Aunt Jemimah and Mrs. Butterworth seated beside me. An indestructible triumvirate made of flour, eggs, sugar, milk, water, and love.

    By the age of 15, the path of my life became unclear and confusing. Torn between my duty my village and my love for pancakes, I foolishly left home in search of karaguchi ah-nowakadesu .. the ultimate pancake. My journey took me to the many islands of my homeland, many days away from my dojo. My hunger for pancakes became my teacher, and foolishly I let it control the path that I walked upon. My feet, sore from travel, ached as my heart and stomach did, until I came to a realization. My duty was clear. I needed to take a stand and accept my love for the art of the ninja AND my love for pancakes. It was not wrong for me to love both. I love one as a dear friend, and one as a lover. Yes--My mission was clear--I must become a ninja, a secret assassin hired by the imperial family BUT I MUST ALSO ENJOY THE OCCASIONAL PANCAKE.

    My adoration for breakfast cakes has placed me within an awkward position. Many ninja refuse to recognize me as their brother. I defend my father's land, but I am looked upon as weak and undisciplined. I tell them, "But, brothers! Listen to my plea! The pancakes do not weaken me, nor do they make me disobey the rule of my sword. They fill me with love." But alas, they do not understand...For the mind of a ninja is complex.

    My only earthly desire is to be accepted for who I am. Yes, I am a NINJA--But I also enjoy pancakes. Will you accept me? If you were approached by a ninja who requested a pancake, would you submit to his will?

    1. Re:Perhaps you should ask... A NINJA by TheSpoom · · Score: 2, Funny

      Best. Personal. Ever.

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  22. So I'm confused .... by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How is this fundamentally different from, say, stamp cards which allow me a free sandwich/coffe/coke/whatever after I've collected a few stamps?

    Fundamentally, this is a "method of providing customer reward for ongoing purchases" (coupled with a "mechanism to ensure repeat business by children").

    Big deal, so it's a digital method. They've taken the concept of reward cards, thrown in Wifi, and are claiming to have done something patentable. This is just silly.

    God I hope this patent is rejected.

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  23. That was a TOY!?!?! by mmell · · Score: 2, Funny

    It didn't taste different from the rest of the meal, but my tummy doesn't feel so good now. ***groan***

  24. Movie Dealing? by Secret+Rabbit · · Score: 3, Funny

    This sounds notoriously similar to drug dealing to me.

    You buy the happy meal and get the device and a small for free.

    Then to get the whole thing (or more) you have to pay.

    *in evil sounding voice* The first one's for free! *evil laugh*

  25. News - three years from now by CrazyTalk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    According to "TFA", it takes 30 months for patents to be approved, and they havent even started looking at it yet. Right now it sounds like this is all "just in case we want to do this some day in the far future". Not Stuff that Matters.

  26. Reminds me of VHS Tapes by fohat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    About a dozen years ago Mcdonald's did a campaign with video tapes, something like buy a meal and get a movie for $2.99 (I watched The Adam's Family about 1000 times as a result). I wonder if they ever tried the same concept with DVD's? It seem's a heck of a lot easier for the consumer, and you'd still have people returning to the store to get another DVD.

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  27. Digital toys not real enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    This idea won't work unless they find a way to make the downloads into choking hazards. The public won't accept them as authentic Happy Meal toys until the customary nationwide safety recall has been issued.

  28. Screw that by exley · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have to come in multiple times to get a full prize? This never would have flown with what an impatient child I was (and still am). I would have been so pissed during Lego or Popoid promotions (anyone else even remember Popoids?). Yay, I come in for a Happy Meal and get... A single Lego brick. It's like those Star Trek chess sets where you get one piece every three months, so you should be ready to sit down and play some chess by 2154.

    1. Re:Screw that by robertjw · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not only that, but the biggest reason McDonalds can sell happy meals at all is it comes with a toy that keeps the kids entertained for a few minutes. If they start providing a useless item that requires multiple visits to entertain a child it looks like it will decrease the value of the Happy Meal and result in fewer sales.

      McDonalds really needs to quit trying to be the high tech fast food chain - I don't think it will ever work out for them.

  29. Re:Some marvel figures come with that as a bonus.. by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I saw some toys the other day that were like that. You bought an action figure, and it came with an arm or a leg of another action figure.
    Of course, transformers-style toys have done that forever, but this was just an arm roughly the size of the action figure's leg, nothing "rideable".

    Of course, unless they're complete idiots, they wont really be selling peices of movies, they'll be selling episodes of crappy somethingorother that will be trendy for three months.

    Of course, they could over-DRM this and entirely forget the benefit of collectable/tradeable stories in bubble gum or trading card packs. ("They're supposed to BUY the new chapters, not buy some of them and trade some with their friends!")

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  30. Re:Strike one for obesity by Burz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So, now they are encouraging addiction to high fat, high calorie diets. And, the reward is sitting back, watching a movie. Sounds like a great way to add inches to our kids waste lines.

    I believe they are encouraging acceptance of heavy-handed DRM schemes, and the reward for this acceptance is a fat/glucose hit. Sounds like a great way to raise a new generation of docile sheep for Hollywood.

  31. Civilization done. by TomorrowPlusX · · Score: 2, Funny

    Then, with each subsequent return, the customer earns more downloadable data, eventually getting an entire movie or game."

    That's it. Civilization is over. We had a nice run.

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  32. Why Blame McDonalds? by LWATCDR · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Little Kids can't drive themselves to McDonald's. The truth is that when I was small child we went to McDonald's maybe once or twice a MONTH. We got Pizza maybe once or twice a month. Parents need to quite blaming McDonald's for their kids eating habits. Cooking at home is the key to better health. It isn't just fast food. If you eat out every night at TGI Fridays, Ruby Tuesday, Olive Garden, Longhorn, or even a good high quality restaurant unless you you have a LOT of self control and order a salad you are going to get fat!
    Restaurants are supposed to be treats. They have become a way of life.

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  33. Re:I don't know about you... by pavon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When I was a kid, trading cards packages would often have a special cards that could be combined to form a mural. I know that I was always excited to see the picture come together as I got the pieces. Having a very small allowance, the motivation wasn't enough to get me to buy more cards than I would have otherwise, but I am sure that it did have some effect for those kids with more disposable income.

    Anyway that was the first thing that came to mind when I read the article, but there are tons of other examples, like the transformers that combine. Also the monopoly lottery game that McDonalds did - people got much more into that than other lottery games where the anticipation begins and ends as soon as you scratch the game piece.

    Part of the success probably depends on if the individual pieces are usefull (or have percieved value) on their own or not. If you have to wait till you have all ten before you can watch any of the flick, then it probably wouldn't create as much anticipation. However, in general, "Gotta catch them all" has long been a successfull marketing gimmick, and will continue to be.

  34. what does the patent have to do with launch? by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 3, Insightful
    After all you got that whole patent pending line you see so often.

    What seems a bit bigger of an obstacle is how do you get a device cheap enough that can actually handle playing a movie.

    The cheapest device at the moment must be the GBA micro and that still is 100 dollars. Of course you could deduct Nintendo's and the retailers profit from it but how low could you possibly get?

    Current happy toys are cheap chinese made plastic toys costing less then a dollar for the most ambitious campaigns.

    Surely they know that any free tech device of any capacity is going to be hacked?

    As for kids remembering to bring their player with them. A bit hopefull. Lending the device out temporarily would also be prone to cheating and asking for a deposit would effectively double the cues at the till for people wanting to give the device back after eating.

    Nice idea but wouldn't it be simpler to put the media player in the table? That techonology can be readily bought from airline seats supliers.

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