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Santa Shopped Online This Year

An anonymous reader writes "ZDNet is reporting on another blockbuster year for online shopping. Online shopping was up almost 30 percent over last year." From the article: " Clothing was the top seller in terms of dollar amount, at $5.3 billion total, up 42 percent from last year's revenue, the report said. Computer hardware and peripherals showed the most growth, 126 percent, at $4.8 billion. Consumer electronics was the second fastest growing category, garnering $4.8 billion, up 109 percent. People spent $3 billion on books online, up 66 percent, and $2.3 billion on products in the toys/video games category of hardware and software, a drop of 9 percent from last year, the study found. "

133 comments

  1. Re:That may be so.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So hard to believe when they lie and try to scam their own customers and plenty of mom and pop and more customer oriented chains like Family Video are out there competiting with them.

  2. So how long .. by vodkamattvt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    before the gov't demands all those juicy sales taxes? You know its coming, especially after the huge growth in online sales every year.

    1. Re:So how long .. by DrEldarion · · Score: 2, Informative

      They really are trying to...

      It really is hard to get past the fact that it's unconstitutional, though.

    2. Re:So how long .. by GoodOmens · · Score: 1
      They already do tax you if the online store has some sort of presence in your state (ie Warehouse, physical store etc.).


      It sucked while I lived in tennesee since just about every retailer had a distro center in Memphis because of fedex.

    3. Re:So how long .. by kfg · · Score: 1

      Can you say "National Sales Tax"?

      I knew ya could.

      KFG

    4. Re:So how long .. by DigiShaman · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      How about a flat tax system and just dump the bloated IRS all togeather?

      http://www.fairtax.org/

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    5. Re:So how long .. by kfg · · Score: 1

      Won't do a damned thing for most taxes, a point often overlooked.

      KFG

    6. Re:So how long .. by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 1

      Yeah, how long before Big Bother kills the goose that lays the golden egg?

    7. Re:So how long .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They already do. Most states with a sales tax also have a "Use Tax". This is where you're supposed to pay tax on everything you bought out of state that wasn't already taxed. While hardly anyone pays this, it's tax evasion - with all the accompanying criminal penalties - if you're caught.

    8. Re:So how long .. by ataahdc · · Score: 1

      Nooooooooooooooooooooo! That'd just ruin my day.

    9. Re:So how long .. by vsprintf · · Score: 1

      before the gov't demands all those juicy sales taxes? You know its coming, especially after the huge growth in online sales every year.

      Some companies, like BestBuy, already collect state sales taxes. However, when they offer free shipping like recently, it's still a great deal. Point-and-click shopping, no money spent on gasoline or time wasted dodging soccer moms in the mall, and let the UPS guy worry about road conditions.

    10. Re:So how long .. by theCoder · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It really is hard to get past the fact that it's unconstitutional, though.

      So was income tax, once upon a time.

      Of course, in today's environment, being unconstitutional doesn't seem to stop anyone anyway.

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    11. Re:So how long .. by droleary · · Score: 1

      before the gov't demands all those juicy sales taxes?

      Could some politician in that "pro-Internet tax" camp please explain to me how online mail order materially differs from the catalog mail order that has been practiced by the likes of Sears for over a hundred years?

    12. Re:So how long .. by ceejayoz · · Score: 1

      Flat tax wouldn't be much fun for the poor.

    13. Re:So how long .. by operagost · · Score: 1
      Why? They pay the same percentage of their income as anyone else. Someone making 30,000 (after the usual deductions) could pay only 4,500 while someone making 300,000 would pay 45,000. Why is this not fair?

      Don't forget that most people aren't proposing that we actually eliminate sales tax, and in most states food and clothing (which take up most of the lower income class earnings) is not taxed. If sales tax were to be eliminated, I would be in favor of simply making food and clothing purchases tax deductible. If you are literally living hand-to-mouth, you will pay virtually no tax.

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    14. Re:So how long .. by Phantom+Zmoove · · Score: 1

      So you are the guy that kept me out 12 hours a day on my route this season?

      Thanks a lot buddy!

      ---ups guy

    15. Re:So how long .. by Dr.+Cody · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Any government which allows there to be so many different sales tax rates doesn't deserve a dime from interstate transactions.

    16. Re:So how long .. by ceejayoz · · Score: 1

      They pay the same percentage of their income as anyone else.

      That's precisely the problem.

      A family unit making $30,000 a year paying 10% in taxes likely can't spare that $3,000, while the family unit making $300,000 a year is far more likely to be able to spare $30,000 for taxes.

  3. That's Odd... by scheming · · Score: 5, Funny

    I got nothing at all for christmas this year... :(

    1. Re:That's Odd... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I got enough coal to last for years! Woohoo!

    2. Re:That's Odd... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Oh, yeah? Santa left me a Cold Fusion reactor!!! :P

    3. Re:That's Odd... by vsprintf · · Score: 1

      Was it a genuine Pons and Fleischmann or just some cheap foreign copy?

    4. Re:That's Odd... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what did you do?

      [ ] Broke your bat on Johnny's head
      [ ] Hid a frog in sister's bed
      [ ] Spilled some ink on Mommy's rug
      [ ] Made Cowboy Neil eat a bug
      [ ] Bought some gum with a penny slug
      [ ] Put a tack on teacher's chair
      [ ] Tied a knot in Susie's hair
      [ ] Did a dance on Mommy's plants
      [ ] Climbed a tree and tore my pants
      [ ] Filled the sugar bowl with ants

  4. figures for pre-xmas only by welcher · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The summary doesn't seem to have it quite right: the $30b is an estimate of what was spent 31 Oct - 23 Dec. Which is 30% than same estimate last year. But, FTA, another company did a survey for a similar period and found total sales to be $18b, up 25% from the previous year. Which all goes to suggest there isn't an agreed measure of online spending ...

  5. Clothing, eh? by 06metzp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It seems odd that clothing would be the top seller online, given that it involves more to return/exchange items to an online store than a regular store if the clothes should happen to be the wrong size.

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    1. Re:Clothing, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Sucks... guess there won't be anymore catfights in Victoria Secret.

    2. Re:Clothing, eh? by nizo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Luckily I am guessing that many of the online clothing purchases consisted of about 9 square inches of actual fabric with lots of elastic straps. At least thats what I asked for from Santa before they threw me out of the mall anyway.

    3. Re:Clothing, eh? by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      Well before the internet, catalog shopping took off in a big way in the UK.
      You got a big catalog sent to you twice a year, and picked out what you wanted when you wanted, the goods were usually delivered quickly and returns generally weren't a problem.

      This involved exactly the same logistical problems you are describing and they managed it quite well.
      Its probably still available, the only change I see is that the online catalog is more upto date with stock and fads.

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    4. Re:Clothing, eh? by timeOday · · Score: 1
      They're way ahead of you... quite a few chains with storefronts allow you to exchange mail-ordered items at any store.

      For me, a gift is about the only time I would buy clothing online. If it's for me I don't buy online, because you can't quite tell what it will look like or how it will fit. But as a gift, those problems are the same whether buying online or at a store.

    5. Re:Clothing, eh? by mnmn · · Score: 1

      I figure these are clothing gift cards. I know I'd appreciate such things more than most everything else I'd get on Christmas.

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  6. From a retail store owner by dada21 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I own 2 (and 1/2) retail stores in the Midwest US, and this will be our final year in retail.

    Our inventory was better than or equal to more dotcoms. Our service was better (30 day DOA or defect replacement and lifetime labor). Our pricing was equal. Our hours were "better" since we were open 7 days a week.

    What killed us? Sales tax. Our average sale in 2005 for about $230 (we sell paintball, skateboards and a ton of clothing). At 7%, we were consistently $16+ over per average sale than the dotcoms, even with instant acquisition.

    2005 was our best year ever, so we're ending it at the top. Next year's outlook is bleak as many states want to raise sales tax and other fees. No thanks. In 2005 I paid more in sales tax than I did in payroll.

    I'm not mad, actually -- the dotcoms are a great way to save money AND screw the state. I feel bad about my customers who loved our store, but I also know many bought online for the higher margin items that didn't need servicing (we were not competitive on those items as we had to price in future service and were always about 20% higher).

    Local communities WILL suffer, though. Retail sales can be a big income base for the local community -- my mechanic performs almost 80% of his work for retail employees' cars. My dentist has almost 1/3rd of her patients working in retail. As retail suffers, these secondary markets will also suffer. But the positive is that the money we save in retail by shopping online should offer us more money to spend on other things.

    It was a great 5 years, I did very well financially, and in the end, the state decided they didn't want me around -- otherwise they'd have ended the vile sales tax that is quickly ruining retail.

    1. Re:From a retail store owner by the_macman · · Score: 1

      Hmmm. That's a pretty sad story. You helped me see both sides of the story. I do have a question though and your story confuses me a little. So not having taxes for online shops is what killed you? I'm not sure I understand how you went out of business. If you could clear up the confusion that would be great. Also, since you so clearly identified the problem (and have great understanding of it) what would you propose a solution to be? Thanks, would love to hear your reply. -Tussey

    2. Re:From a retail store owner by GoodOmens · · Score: 4, Insightful
      So wait, you were able to succesfully compete with online retailers AND make a profit but your shutting your doors just because you don't like giving the state money?

      That doesn't make any sort of buisness sense as you stated 2005 was your best year (and you also pointed out you did very well financially.)

    3. Re:From a retail store owner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In 2005 I paid more in sales tax than I did in payroll.
      Aren't you the same fucktard who pays his employee's minimum wage anyway. No one really cares what you have to say...the last person anyone here is going to pity is the rich bitch who owns a bunch of businesses. We really don't care.

    4. Re:From a retail store owner by dada21 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've been in business for 16+ years (a variety of businesses). Retail wasn't my thing -- my wife begged me for a store and then I got hooked. We do constant market analyses to stay ahead of the competition -- online and brick and mortar. The outlook for next year looks BAD. My political views might seem to some a little aggressive, but I forsee a bad recession starting, and the retailers will get slammed, in my opinion.

      There's an idea I have that many people throw good money at bad problems -- I won't do that. I'll lose about $100,000 closing the stores, but that's better than losing 4 times as much if things go sour. This year was exceptional because we finally overcame some starting costs (build outs and the rest) that I paid out of my pocket. I do NOT see good things ahead in 2006, and I don't want to take that big of a risk.

    5. Re:From a retail store owner by dada21 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm not sure I understand how you went out of business.

      We didn't go out of business, we're making the choice to close our doors -- big difference. In every business, in every market, there comes a time when the old ways are obsolete. Ma and pa retail stores are pretty much antiquated, so I figured we'd best get out on top. One of my 3 stores closed up on its own (major cash flow problems and a very disloyal community), so I found my exit strategy and took it.

      Also, since you so clearly identified the problem (and have great understanding of it) what would you propose a solution to be?

      There is no solution. It is so convoluted, but in the end I have to blame government -- and I know I'll get flamed for saying that.

      Look at it this way:

      1. Our rent is outrageous -- almost $18-$25 per square foot. I fully blame this on the Fed's easy credit and a massive amount of "new" money entering the property market. There is no way my main store's rent should be $5000 per month -- but it is! This is in a town of 4000 people, mind you.

      2. Our payroll is outrageous -- for every $1 I pay my employee, I have almost $1.50 to also pay to government and accountants (because of the tax laws). There's no way around it, especially since the warehouses who sell for the big dotcoms hire people either at minimum wage, or as contractors below minimum wage. I have friends who work at the big dotcoms in the warehouses and they're practically slaves.

      3. We pay 7% to sales tax, plus the an additional 3.5% to accountants to handle the sales tax. One store files over 45 different forms a year for various government bodies. This puts us at a significant penalty over companies that don't have to pay this portion.

      4. We pay a larger portion in shipping -- we don't move millions annually so we don't get the same discounts as the big guys.

      But its ok! The dotcoms won because they were more efficient. Yes, my customers who lose me will lose great service and a very community oriented business, but if they weren't willing to pay the extra 15-20%, why should I take a big risk?

      Retail is dead, except for the megacorps who have ways around the issues plaguing me. I recently found out 3 super stores in my neighboring town get a sales tax rebate -- they charge 7% to the consumer but get to keep over half of it. Yeah, that's fair.

    6. Re:From a retail store owner by dada21 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Aren't you the same fucktard who pays his employee's minimum wage anyway.

      Yes. I pay minimum wage salaries, plus up to 66% profit from each project. My lowest paid employee works 15 hours a week and takes home about $65,000 annually (minimum wage plus profit sharing).

      On top of that, I am the lowest paid of my entire staff (including bonuses, profit sharing and dividends). So don't think I am some rich bitch. I drive a 1996 Toyota Corolla with no power accessories.

    7. Re:From a retail store owner by ArikTheRed · · Score: 1

      Huh, I had no idea that owning a business automatically made you rich... Thanks for letting the secret out!

    8. Re:From a retail store owner by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      The door swings both ways. As such, why not expand your shop to include online sales to get out of state revenue too?

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    9. Re:From a retail store owner by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 1

      That's better than paying illegal aliens half of minimum wage to do the same job.
      I say this from an area where that sort of thing is a BIG problem.

    10. Re:From a retail store owner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait, wait, wait, according to this you study gold mines as well as are in retail as well as have plenty of time to post on /. I smell something here...

    11. Re:From a retail store owner by oldenuf2knowbetter · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Just to be sure I understand, you had a great year and did well financially but are closing voluntarily while accusing sales tax inequities of killing your business, right? The business that you say is thriving and profitable, right?

      So are you just pissed off that the state forces you to collect and forward taxes to them while on-line retailers without a physical presence in your state don't have to? Or are you just pissed off at the whole idea of sales taxes to the extent that you're willing to go out of business in protest?

      Perhaps you've not noticed that legislatures everywhere are rushing to pass laws that force on-line retailers to collect the same taxes you do? Which would eliminate that apparent price advantage they have over you while they still keep the disadvantage of both shipping costs and the delayed gratification which annoys their customers.

      Perhaps you could just do a "virtual on-line store(tm)" (patent pending) where your customers either at home or in your facility select what they want, place the order, pay for it by credit card, and then you personally run into the warehouse, gather up the items, and hand it to them. You get to eliminate those pesky employees (neatly saving all that money wasted on payroll - which you now get to pocket) while the customer gets "immediate gratification(tm)" (patent pending) without shipping charges. Should on-line retailers be forced to collect sales taxes, you can now actually undercut their prices should you choose. This is clearly a win-win situation no matter how it plays out.

      Oh, and those items that you inflate the prices on to provide for future service? Quit selling them.

    12. Re:From a retail store owner by birder · · Score: 1

      Your lowest paid works 15 hours a week for $65k a year! Sweet Jebus. Perhaps you're paying your staff a little too much.

    13. Re:From a retail store owner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your lowest-paid employee made $65K for 780 hours of work? That's $83.33 per hour. Perhaps you've not noticed that your people are grossly over-compensated? Perhaps you've not also noticed that the numbers don't fit together well?

      Given your statement that your payroll is less than sales taxes collected, so then assuming your payroll cost as 7% of sales, this one employee was responsible for some $920K of sales?

      As there are other and even better paid employees - let's assume $80K per year each - and given 2 and a half stores, there are probably 8 or 10 employees plus yourself - and a total payroll of maybe $750K? Which suggests that you're doing over $10.7M in sales? Damn fine numbers for 2 and a half stores selling paintball supplies and skateboards!

    14. Re:From a retail store owner by ClamIAm · · Score: 1

      Dude, this guy is a True Believer of the libertarian camp (if you don't believe me, check his comment history). I wouldn't be surprised if he closed his business just to further or justify his politics.

    15. Re:From a retail store owner by fimbulvetr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He has another comment here:
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=172698&cid=143 75640

      Basically, he has an exit strategy. Something a lot of people with businesses/investments don't have. An exit strategy is essential and following it is even more essential. Personally, I applaud him for such a move. He might lose some money on it (Costs of shutting down, lost profits), but chances are good that he's probably going to be correct more often than not on the signals he's getting. Sometimes it's just better to quit while you're ahead, especially in a case like this when he can see some clouds moving in.

    16. Re:From a retail store owner by citizenr · · Score: 0

      its ok, he was an IT manager last week

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    17. Re:From a retail store owner by GoodOmens · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Fair enough response. A little more clear :-).

      Sounds like you should just join em. Keep your invetory, buy cheap space where realestate is cheap (ie where window shoppers dont go .. or hell to start this venture move to your garage). Get a internet connection and open a online store ;-).

      With some decent marketing using google adsense you will have customers in no time.

    18. Re:From a retail store owner by zogger · · Score: 1

      I think you are correct in 2006. Geopolitical events will be severely influencing all the markets,with a lot of changes coming, and most of them not good. But... all of them will have opportunities for those that are nimble.

    19. Re:From a retail store owner by ClamIAm · · Score: 1, Flamebait
      It was a great 5 years, I did very well financially, and in the end, the state decided they didn't want me around -- otherwise they'd have ended the vile sales tax that is quickly ruining retail.

      Riiight. It was the damn State! They forced you out of business!

      OK, seriously. Look at this statement, and notice the inherent contradictions. You claim that the state forced you out of business, yet you state you had a great run and did very well financially. This doesn't make any sense.

      And a note about sales tax. How did customers get to your store? My guess is that they travelled on roads. How were these roads constructed? By taxes.

      Of course, the obvious reply to this would be "but if we had a more 'libertarian' state, none of these problems would have happened". But wait, such a state has never existed! So this particular argument is not really valid, it's just speculation.

    20. Re:From a retail store owner by fimbulvetr · · Score: 1

      Bollocks! You'd never be able to convince me that some guy can run a business AND have a hobby! It's IMPOSSIBLE! What's next? Next you're gonna tell me he's posting on internet forums on his days off!

    21. Re:From a retail store owner by infosinger · · Score: 1

      What makes you so special that someone who risks all that they have earned against some business that statistically will not succeed. Over 90% of business in this country are founded by someone risking most of what they own, not by the big corps. Then when they do succeed you feel it is their obligation to give it away to those who are too scared or too lazy to make something of the great opportunities in this country. This country was founded on equal opportunity not making everyone equal. Quit the diatribe from Karl Marx which has been shown to NOT work and go for the opportunities instead of sitting on your butt waiting for someone to take care of you.

    22. Re:From a retail store owner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you in the US or elsewhere?

      Minimum wage in the US is something like $24,000 per year. In fact, median household wages are something like $45,000 per year. $65,000 seems remarkably generous. Unless that's $65,000 Canadian dollars? Or $65,000 Australian dollars? (or some other worldwide "dollar" currency that is at more than than a 1:1 exchange rate to US dollars).

      And if you are in the US, it makes me wish I'd not struggled to get a computer science degree and now be working 60+ hour weeks coding - I'd take a 30 hour work-week in a skate shop at your wages anytime. :( Talk about inspiring employee loyalty...

    23. Re:From a retail store owner by penguin_dance · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I can't let this pass...

      In 2005 I paid more in sales tax than I did in payroll.

      YOU didn't pay the sales tax. WE (i.e., your customers) did! Sales tax is a no loss collection with you as the collection agent for the state. In fact, you could very well invest the money until it's due that quarter to make some profit. In my state, if you pay it by a certain time you get a (tiny) rebate. However, If you spent it on other things instead of keeping it separate and then had to scrape it together every three months, shame on you.

      If things stink so much in the bricks and sticks world, but you still have a viable business, why not go on-line instead of closing down? Seems to me you're cutting off your nose to spite the state. There was a retail chain called Egghead that totally closed their physical stores and went online to become New Egg. Very daring at the time they did it. I believe they're making a tidy profit AND I can tell you the prices are a WHOLE lot better than when they had a store in my community!

      Local communities WILL suffer, though. Retail sales can be a big income base for the local community

      It seems you consider someone in retail only if they have a physical shop. With exception of the landlords wanting to rent space, I think e-business could HELP small towns and SAVE a lot of mom and pop shops because they can appeal WORLDWIDE instead of just to their community. Diversification will save a small-town business, because you're not sweating when a new Wal*Mart or other larger chain moves into town if you've got a expanded customer base.

      Businesses large and small have to change and roll with what's out there. Small businesses have the advantage of being more flexable than say a Montgomery Wards or a Mervyns. You've got to pick up your head and see what the trends are. Or you can just quit and sit on the porch and watch the bigger dogs go by.

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    24. Re:From a retail store owner by maxpublic · · Score: 1

      and a very disloyal community

      While the rest of the post was interesting, what does this have to do with anything? Customers don't owe you any 'loyalty', nor or ever.

      Max

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    25. Re:From a retail store owner by vsprintf · · Score: 1

      I do have a question though and your story confuses me a little. So not having taxes for online shops is what killed you? I'm not sure I understand how you went out of business. If you could clear up the confusion that would be great.

      I agree. I'm a little confused also. I'm pretty sure that last week dada was claiming to be running a programming bodyshop while doing pretty much the same diatribe about taxes. Strange. In my experience, the only time online beats brick-and-mortar is when the locals have limited selection or the online store offers free shipping (which isn't common). Many major online retailers (BestBuy, Penneys, Sears, Circuit City, Barnes & Nobles, etc.) already collect state sales taxes.

    26. Re:From a retail store owner by vsprintf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Your lowest paid works 15 hours a week for $65k a year! Sweet Jebus. Perhaps you're paying your staff a little too much.

      If you check the guy's comments from last week, none of the numbers ever add up. He pays people minimum wage, yet they make huge salaries, but the government takes it all, but his employees love it, etc., etc. Perhaps he's exaggerating a little bit.

    27. Re:From a retail store owner by peterfa · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Actually, a business is a subscriber base. The subscriber base is all those who would shop there. There is nothing else to a business. All the little things that are tacked onto a business are just to gain as many subscribers as possible. When you've built up a subscriber base, your business is worth a lot. The more subscribers, the more valuable. If you have a few subscribers, your business isn't worth much more than that assets, which may have already depreciated and aren't worth much. This person would have a subscriber base built up. Clearly, since he or she has returned a profit, there is a considerable subscriber base. Now he or she can sell it for some nice pocket change.

    28. Re:From a retail store owner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might want to work on not being trolled so easily, and that would be sweatshop, not "skate shop". Check his past comments.

    29. Re:From a retail store owner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Watching the libertarians being eaten by their own offspring is entertaining, if slightly unsettling.

    30. Re:From a retail store owner by apflwr · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately the strip mall/downtown "specialty store" is going to be the casualty of on-line shopping. Keep in mind, though, it's always a risky venture to open a shop like that, whether 1976 or 2006 (the only thing more risky is opening a restaurant.) You're selling paintball equiptment and skateboards, both trendy items that go in and out of favor. Your clientelle is most likely primarily 15-25 year old men, a pretty transient age group-- they tend to move away, or lose interest, or whatever and don't make for the most loyal of customers. And the biggest factor is location, of course-- your potential customers are pretty much those who live within a twenty to thrity minute radius, so if the 15-25 year old men in the vicinity aren't into skateboards and paintball you're S.O.L.

    31. Re:From a retail store owner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      > It was a great 5 years, I did very well financially, and in the end, the state decided they didn't want me around

      Who Is John Galt?

      (In the unlikely event that you haven't read Atlas Shrugged, buy a copy using your last clear-and-free dollars of profit. Read it, starting the morning after you close the doors. You're not the only one who's "retiring early" these days.)

    32. Re:From a retail store owner by pnewhook · · Score: 1
      Our rent is outrageous -- almost $18-$25 per square foot. I fully blame this on the Fed's easy credit and a massive amount of "new" money entering the property market. There is no way my main store's rent should be $5000 per month -- but it is! This is in a town of 4000 people, mind you.
      That's insane (and hard to believe). Here in Toronto, population 5 million, retail rates are on the order of a dollar or two per square foot. Check here: http://toronto.craigslist.org/off/
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    33. Re:From a retail store owner by vsprintf · · Score: 1

      Bollocks! You'd never be able to convince me that some guy can run a business AND have a hobby! It's IMPOSSIBLE! What's next? Next you're gonna tell me he's posting on internet forums on his days off!

      Well, let's see. Last week he was running an IT sweatshop and complaining about taxes. Now, he's a retailer who is complaining about taxes. According to the AC, he may be a precious metals investor who no doubt complains about taxes. If you were doing all that and serious, would you be working to improve your retail business and perhaps trim your 20% profit, or would you just give up and spend all your time posting about how the goverment made you fail on Slashdot?

    34. Re:From a retail store owner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, just read some of dada21's other posts. I'd say a good 90% or more is complete bullshit. He makes random nonsensical comments just to prove his screwed up viewpoint.

    35. Re:From a retail store owner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh, so today you own retail paintball/skateboard stores? Yesterday you had been in the IT industry for the past two years and also and also in the engineering and contracting business. I wasn't aware that "anarcho-capitalist" was just a fancy word for "liar." Guess you learn something every day.

    36. Re:From a retail store owner by operagost · · Score: 1

      And you didn't open an online storefront... why?

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    37. Re:From a retail store owner by ranton · · Score: 1

      Another day, another business that dada21 has owned for years. I wonder what business he will own tomorrow?

      There is only one thing in common among all of the business that he owns, which is that they all neatly coincide with whatever topics are currently on Slashdot. I think it is amazing that someone can own at least 365 companies (one for each day of the year), and still have financial problems that are caused by the government.

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    38. Re:From a retail store owner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=172608&cid=143 71006

      This guy seems to either

      a) have his hands in a lot of pots

      or

      b) make stuff up

      While I may agree with his theorm that there may be a recession in the near future, it still seems like a very poor idea to close 2 profitable stores. I suspect he just says that he's in "Situation X" in order to seem like he has some credibility. That's not the only example of him saying "I'm in this business" but it's the easiest one to find (just click on his name and look at his recent comments)

    39. Re:From a retail store owner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe he was refering to an annual rate, not monthly on the SF price.

    40. Re:From a retail store owner by dhakbar · · Score: 1

      You just got trolled hardcore, faggot.

    41. Re:From a retail store owner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the rest of his post refers to monthly rates.

    42. Re:From a retail store owner by dada21 · · Score: 1

      I've been in business since the age of 15 (13 actually, but I didn't consider it a business, more of a hobby that made money). Yes, I do own an IT business. I helped my wife started a skateboard/paintball business of which I own 40%. I helped my brother start a recording studio, of which I own 40%. I opened an outsourcing business in 2002, which I own 66% of. I started a business in Europe this year that manufactures tanning salon shields, of which I own 40%.

      I can't put all my eggs in one basket -- the best way to run a business is to find a great team, and learn to build from there. I'm not a responsible worker, I'm a grand risk taker -- others who are good at doing the daily grind get VERY well compensated for their work, and I look to see how I can expand -- or contract -- in order to survive the years ahead.

      All of my businesses had websites, but they were too expensive to update for very little income.

    43. Re:From a retail store owner by dada21 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sorry, I meant those numbers for my IT business, not my retail business. The poster was trolling about my pay rates -- minimum wage plus very high (up to 66%) project profit sharing -- in my IT business. My retail pay rates are much lower, but about double the national take-home average.

      We're reviewing our retail businesses for 2007 -- we might decommission our big stores and open a large quantity of tiny shops where the manager is also a significant owner (30% or so), so that we can tie the pay to the market. Always things to research.

    44. Re:From a retail store owner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Besides if he is only paying $5000 per year rent on a place where his lowest paid employee gets paid $65000 per year he's got nothing to complain about.

    45. Re:From a retail store owner by dada21 · · Score: 2, Informative

      1 of my 3 businesses was closed partially due to sales tax inequities, but I can't go into details right now due to legal reasons.

      It was our best year, yes -- the first 7 months were record setting, the last 5 months were the worst in history. Katrina, gas prices, and overall recessionary valleys lead us to make the choice to downsize and regroup for 2007.

      I'm not pissed that we pay taxes and dotcoms don't -- I don't think anyone should. I would hate to see online purchases taxed. Taxes decrease purchases -- watch Chicago lose even more money after adding a 70 cent/pack cigarette tax today.

      I don't want to deal with skimming the law, I just want to provide what the customer wants at a price that is reasonable to me, as well. This is no longer the case. Both my retail industries are conglomerating in order to overcome a very high cost of doing business (again, due to government regulations and restrictions). When my 9 suppliers turn into 3, I lose the power to purchase cheaply. Heck, even "free trade" Bush is killing me by keeping T-shirt and cotton tariffs high, but allowing some large retailers to work around it.

      As for the item that we sell for a high margin, they're very cheap items -- $4 - $6 retail. Normally we sell thousands of them a month, but the dotcoms just give them away at a loss. Very competitive, and I cheer their business sense, but I just can't do it, and I can't give up a key element to paying my overhead and pay.

    46. Re:From a retail store owner by ultranova · · Score: 1

      This country was founded on equal opportunity not making everyone equal.

      Actually America was found on abundance of cheap slave labor. So was capitalism, so I guess that makes it a natural choice for the USA.

      Mod me troll if you want, but the above statements are still true.

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    47. Re:From a retail store owner by ultranova · · Score: 1

      It was a great 5 years, I did very well financially, and in the end, the state decided they didn't want me around -- otherwise they'd have ended the vile sales tax that is quickly ruining retail.

      So you did very well while you were being ruined ?

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    48. Re:From a retail store owner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet somehow in every post you're intimately involved in and know every aspect of whatever business you're currently pretending to run. There's a HUGE difference between being a large investor in and running a business. There's not enough time in the day to do all the things you claim to do, but I guess it's too hard to sort out all your lies this late in the game.

  7. Re:Not a surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so to your analogy people shouldn't go out finding a girl for sex, but stay inside masturbating?

  8. North Carolina already does... by artemis67 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    however, it's up to the individual to volunarily report all internet purchases on their state tax form, so it's a wonder why they even bothered to pass the law.

    1. Re:North Carolina already does... by timeOday · · Score: 1

      In the US income tax is also "voluntary." That just means the burden of assessing and filing falls on you, but you're still forced to pay.

  9. Cracking down on use taxes by Yartrebo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if online retailers would change their tune if there was a major crackdown on people evading paying their use taxes. When you buy something online, you are responsible to pay your state a tax equal to the difference between the local rate and the rate you paid (essentially the full sales tax for most online purchases). It isn't that hard to track violators. If ABC web shopping doesn't collect sales taxes AND a citizen of the state received a package from them AND said citizen filled in $0 for their use tax, one can deduce that said citizen underreported their use tax by at least that amount. A list of packages could be generated by forcing companies making local deliveries to report a list of all packages delivered (this would require a federal law as it falls under the Elastic Clause of the Constitution). If you cannot provide the receipts proving you accrued no more use tax than you declared, then you pay the tax with penalties and interest.

    Personally, I feel it would be a lot easier and trample on far fewer liberties to just have the web retailer collect sales tax.

    1. Re:Cracking down on use taxes by antifoidulus · · Score: 1

      Well, an experiment is to look at European and Japanese online retailers. Both of those places have nationwide sales taxes(Japans a paltry 5% compared to 16+ in most of Europe) so it HAS to be applied to online sales from major retailers(technically online auctions and fly by night places should have to pay it to IIRC, but good luck getting them to do so). I've lived in the US, Germany, and Japan, and bought off of the respective amazon.whatever in all those places. In Japan and Germany the price listed includes taxes, but you always see how much in taxes you pay when you check out. If those retailers are not increasing in line with US sales, then you can honestly say a lot of it has to do with sales tax, otherwise I would say that it's just more convient for people to buy online.

    2. Re:Cracking down on use taxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does anyone put something besides $0 in the use tax line? I thought the IRS was joking.

    3. Re:Cracking down on use taxes by Generic+Guy · · Score: 1

      It comes down to how "constitutional" the use tax really is. Already in Michigan we've got the smokers suing the state trying to collect extra taxes on tobacco bought out-of-state, due to the empty state coffers they are trying anything and everything to grab revenue. Should be interesting to find out how these lawsuits work out, especially now that they want to automate the "use tax" collection with other states.

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    4. Re:Cracking down on use taxes by vsprintf · · Score: 1

      Retailers that already have a physical presence in a state (retail stores) collect state sales taxes for online purchases. Purely online sales are protected by federal law (so far), although states are lobbying hard to get the exemption removed. The use tax doesn't really apply, and I don't think online retailers would be interested in becoming out-of-state tax collection agents - it's unpaid work for them.

      What if I order a gift from an online retailer based in New York and have it sent to my brother in California, while I'm living in Colorado? What possible reason does Colorado have to tax the transaction? My credit card is from a company in Connecticut, and the phone company that provides my internet connection is headquartered in Delaware. Does a state get a cut of every single transaction I make just because I live there? What about when I'm on vacation in Hawaii? Is there a use tax on every dollar I spend that's due to Colorado?

    5. Re:Cracking down on use taxes by vertinox · · Score: 1

      I wonder if online retailers would change their tune if there was a major crackdown on people evading paying their use taxes.

      Most people I know don't file state income taxes much less keep track of people failing to pay sales taxes.

      Secondly, you have to remember that many states don't have sales tax. The federal government is only responsible to interstate trade which by constitution can't be taxed (there is no federal sales tax you know) and the states are responsible for sales taxes if they want them. The federal government is not obligated to enforce anything that differs from state to state (at least that is how it is supposed to work).

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    6. Re:Cracking down on use taxes by cptgrudge · · Score: 1
      Here in Minnesota, the Governor promised "no new taxes", so instead he got a "health impact fee" passed on cigarettes. It was expected to bring in $400 million to the state coffers. Unfortunately, it violates the legal agreement for the 1998 settlement with tobacco companies. Notably, "the state gave up claims against the companies for "liability of any nature whatsoever" for past or future smoking-related health costs.." A state judge has made a decision that it violates the agreement, and it is in appeals right now, but there's lots of hand-wringing and complaining.

      Oops.

      Stuff like this will just drive more tobacco business online, too. Although, some of those online smoke shops look a bit...shady.

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  10. Re:Not a surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bought only 1,600 yen toys and applied "FREE with Super Saver Shipping" in amazon.co.jp.
    is there any reason to buy these toys in retail shops with using gasoline?

  11. People don't like expenses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Every dime which goes into that register should belong to me, dammit! Let other people pay the bills for state-supplied services! I want it all and I want it for nothing.

    1. Re:People don't like expenses. by Millenniumman · · Score: 1

      How about keeping all your money until you pay for services you choose to pay for? Now there will always need to be some taxes, but many government provided services should be left to individuals and private companies.

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  12. Mod up parent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The parent is right on target. People whine about taxes, and when taxes are lowered, they whine about bad service from the government. Get real folks.

  13. Fair tax... by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Maybe you have signatures hidden or something, but his is: http://www.fairtax.org/ Read that and come back when you have something to say relevant to that.

    1. Re:Fair tax... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Hey that looks really fair, a single parent on minimum wage
      ends up 102 dollars better off, but (OH NO!) only after the
      special (*cough* web-page only fudge factor) "prebate family
      allowance" is added, in reality they'll be a lot worse off

      It also looks really fair for a couple living on social
      security, but (OH NO!) only after the (*cough web-page only
      fudge factor) "prebate family allowance" is added, in
      reality they'll be worse off

      A family of 4 with one wage earner are much better off,
      I'll agree. No issues here, except (OH NO!) only after the
      (*cough* web-page only fudge factor) "prebate family allowance"
      is added, in reality they'll be worse off

      But hey, it's not all bad, those making 100,000 a year will
      be 37% better off (no fudge factor needed here)

    2. Re:Fair tax... by kfg · · Score: 1

      Maybe you have signatures hidden or something . . .

      Nope, and since I am already familiar with the proposed system I knew where you were coming from. The system will eliminate some hidden taxes and not effect other taxes, hidden or otherwise, at all.

      It would be a start, although I have philosophical objections in being forced to be a government tax collector in order to do business at all. These objections may well only be intensified by the fact of recieving financial compensation for doing so.

      KFG

    3. Re:Fair tax... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read the FAQ, the "fair tax" system allows you to enjoy the
      "Irish Miracle" that stems from their refusal to join the EU,
      avoid VAT and follow their own choice of taxes.

      *cough* the Irish joined the EU in 1973
      *cough* Irish VAT is 21%
      *cough* the "Irish Miracle" is, probably, more to do with
      them receiving 34.5 billion euros from the EU since they
      joined (more per-head [by a long way] than any other nation)

    4. Re:Fair tax... by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      http://www.fairtaxvolunteer.org/smart/faq-main.htm l#2
      is the list of taxes to be abolished. What federal taxes won't it abolish?

    5. Re:Fair tax... by kfg · · Score: 1

      What federal taxes won't it abolish?

      I don't recall using that phrasing.

      KFG

    6. Re:Fair tax... by GigsVT · · Score: 2, Interesting

      kfg:

      If you run a business today you are a tax collector in every sense of the word. You withhold payroll taxes, you charge sales taxes, you file 1099s on interest and dividends you issue to ensure that the recipients pay the tax.

      Businesses are already the main collectors of tax. Many even wind up paying $10,000 a year or more for accountants and accounting software to make sure they don't screw the taxes up.

      The Fair Tax just simplifies the process by making all the federal taxes one simple to compute percentage.

      The only legitimate challenge to the fair tax I've ever heard was from the man soon to be governor of Virginia, Tim Kaine. He said that just as you would diversify your investments, the government should have a diversified tax base, and the Fair Tax puts all your eggs in one basket. I don't agree with this for various reasons, but that's the only challenge to the Fair Tax I've ever heard that is even valid.

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    7. Re:Fair tax... by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      Mr. AC,

      You really should get something for that cough.

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    8. Re:Fair tax... by kfg · · Score: 1

      If you run a business today you are a tax collector in every sense of the word.

      Indeed, and . . . I am not happy about it.

      You withhold payroll taxes. . .

      Not even when I owned a brick and mortar, although I have had to deal with that issue when responsible for someone else's business.

      The only legitimate challenge to the fair tax I've ever heard was from the man soon to be governor of Virginia, Tim Kaine.

      Well, you've just heard one that goes to a deeper level than the mere difference between graduated and flat tax structures. When given the choice between two devils I reserve the right to wander off in search of an angel.

      . . the Fair Tax puts all your eggs in one basket . . .

      Yeah, it assumes people will spend money. The argument is specious.

      KFG

    9. Re:Fair tax... by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it assumes people will spend money. The argument is specious

      Given that consumer debt is very high, I seriously doubt many people are saving money as they should be. I don't know about you, but personally am always having to owe someone something.

      Trust me, people will continue to spend money. Simplifying the tax system puts the burden of pressure on the government to ballance the budget with one lump taxable sum. Instead, we got polititians masking their tax-funneling to other schemes and comming up with more stupid taxation laws there by virtually social engineering our entire capitolistic society.

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    10. Re:Fair tax... by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      the right to wander off in search of an angel.

      I'm a Libertarian, so the Fair Tax isn't an ideal solution for me either. I still think it's a step in the right direction, eliminating the huge and bloated IRS and replacing it with a much smaller tax collection agency that has a very simple function.

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  14. Hmm... by reset_button · · Score: 1

    Should I break the bad news about Santa to the editors?

    1. Re:Hmm... by Silentnite · · Score: 1

      That he doesn't use a computer? Just like the Queen of England??

      What else could it be?
      He brought me a really nice computer this year.

  15. too easy, but: by lyberth · · Score: 1

    Its 2006, it hasn't been christmas yet this year...

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    1. Re:too easy, but: by contrapunctus · · Score: 1

      I'm Armenian, Christmas is on the 6th of January :)

  16. I'm Willing to Bet... by eno2001 · · Score: 1

    ...that flat screen TVs (LCD and Plasma) made the largest jump as the prices are coming down. I bought one this year and I tend to reflect the buying habits of most low to middle income tech obsessed Americans. So if I got one, then it's probably very likely that most of you did too. And since we make up about 95% of the people who do shopping online (just so you know I buy about 5% of my stuff online, I still trust brick and mortar over online) it's very likely that we dictate the numbers. So a show of hands... who bought a flat screen TV this Xmas? Any size. 7" - 80".

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    1. Re:I'm Willing to Bet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bought a 61". Bought it from a local brick and mortar. They price matched the online price. When it was all done it cost me an extra $50 to buy from a local merchant who set the thing up for me and hauled away the packing materials.

    2. Re:I'm Willing to Bet... by toddestan · · Score: 1

      On a simular note, I've been buying computers/components online for quite a while, but always bought monitors locally. The reason was quite simple: The cost of shipping a big, heavy CRT usually put the local stores ahead in price. But LCD monitors changed this, all the LCDs I have bought, I purchased online. The two LCDs that I advised others to buy this Christmas were ordered online.

      As for your survey, no flatscreen TV for me. I really don't have a use for one.

  17. Move to Oregon by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We don't have sales tax. Of course, the property tax is a killer, so you can then complain that online stores can be located in very inexpensive locations.

  18. Don't you people watch tv? by cazbar · · Score: 1

    It's because Santa used the easy button.

    Mega pixels!

  19. I agree. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Even if you know your correct size not all clothing sizes are equal. They can differ among different brands, and even different lines of clothes manufactured under the same brand name. Clothing is something that you really have to try on before you can be sure about making a purchase. Unless you are "wasting" tons of money on sales tax for over-priced designer clothes, I really don't see the benefit of purchasing clothing online instead of at your local department store. In fact, the only reason I buy electronics online is because I usually save a decent amount of sales tax (though it is sometimes offset by the shipping price) and the only stores local to me are Walmart and Office Depot, neither of which has a stellar selection of electronics / computer equipment. The closest "real" electronics stores are Best Buy and Circuit City, both over 2 hours away and still don't have as good a selection as the online stores. I would much rather spend a little extra to get it today, but sometimes that option just isn't available.

  20. Best Buy salesdroids are incompetent assholes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have one literally next door. In the last 2 dozen times I've gone there, they have never had what I needed. Like for instance:
    * A USB 2.0 hub that fits in the floppy drive bay.
    * A charger for my Palm m500.
    * A sync cable for my Palm m500.
    * ANY sort of accessories for my Palm Pilot.
    * DVD-RAM media.
    * CRV3 batteries for my digital camera.
    * Any sort of accessories for my digital camera... none of the cases fit, and they have one crap model of tripod.
    * An Epson scanner.
    * Any sort of accessories for the Garmin GPS I was stupid enough to buy there.
    * An XM Satellite radio. They had one, but required you to buy the car kit, and since I don't have a car...

    This is simple consumer electronics that you should find at a consumer electronics store, right?

    So I either shop online or drive 35 miles to the CompUSA.

    1. Re:Best Buy salesdroids are incompetent assholes by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      Most of these items are model specific accessories. Fry Electronics is your best chance if going to a local store. Unless it has quick turn-over in a store, it will cost you money being that it's taking up valuable shelf spaced that could be used for more sellible items. Now given the size of most BestBuy stores, the lack of such items should not suprise you.

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  21. 10 reasons online shopping is superior. by D14BL0 · · Score: 0

    1) No lines. This is always a plus.
    2) No looking all over for an item.
    3) You never have to wait for some high-school dropout to re-stock the shelves for you after everybody else has rushed to get whatever-it-is.
    4) Less wrapping to deal with. Some sites (I know Wal-Mart's site does) offers gift-wrapping for certain items, at no additional fee.
    5) Some places will offer free shipping.
    6) In the long run, you'll save money when you add up the cost of gas to drive out to a store.
    7) Shop whenever you want. No closing times for you!
    8) Ease of finding items. Nearly all major sites for online shopping have a search function.
    9) Oddly enough, you're less likely to get injured shopping online. No roads to traverse, or kids playing with shopping carts.
    10) You're not limited to what's within a short drive. No Sears near your house? There's always one online.

    So, the question is, why not?

    1. Re:10 reasons online shopping is superior. by vistic · · Score: 1

      Because it's not good to stay indoors all day? And it's sometimes fun to go out and browse through a store physically.

      My only reason for shopping online is the fact that a lot of stuff I can *NOT* find at local stores... like a lot of music or DVDs I like.

    2. Re:10 reasons online shopping is superior. by TractorBarry · · Score: 1

      You forgot number 11:

      11) Not having to be around idiots^H^H^H^H^H^H people.

      Not having to deal with crowds of "consumer zombies" is the number one reason I now shop for practically everything online. If they're not blocking the aisles by standing 4 abreast in them whilst drool hangs out of their mouths as they stare vacantly at the latest retarded "singing arsehole" "novelty" item they're either backing into you, stepping across you (whilst attempting to read some packaging) or shouting about the amazing price of tomatoes into their fucking mobile phones.

      And don't get me started about the screaming, ill mannered little bastards that pass as their children. Gassing is too good for 'em.

      Contrast this with making a few mouse clicks whilst having a relaxing pint of beer in the comfort of my own home. Luxury :)

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  22. The modern high-tech Santa Claus by btarval · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The modern image of Santa Claus is, I'm afraid, a sad one.

    Santa would HAVE to shop on-line this year. It would be the only way that he could legally get the toys.

    The old way of doing things, by having his elves make the toys, is now illegal. It constitutes "Intellectual Property theft". And WIPO, the RIAA and MPAA all joined forces to force Saint Nick to adhere to the New World Order.

    Our now less jolly old Saint Nick has had to negotiate Patent Cross-licensing, Manufacturing, Trademark and Copyright agreements with all of the major corporate entities this year. This left little time to build toys; hence the need for Santa's web shopping spree.

    Consequently, the Elves have had their prior work outsourced to the Elves in India, China, and elsewhere. Fortunately, they are still gainfully employed, as they have now become either high-powered Lawyers or PEB's (Pointy-eared bosses). This was a bit hard on the Elves, as they are normally good, by nature.

    Santa's visits have also had to come to a stop. The delivery by flying Reindeer constituted illegal border crossings and smuggling, as well as breaking and entering via the Chimney. Now he has to use UPS.

    The various State Attorneys General are also looking into the issue of whether Interstate taxes have to be paid, from previous years.

    Somehow, I liked the old way of doing things (before this ad-hoc notion of "Intellectual Property" was created) much better.

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  23. Convenience is valuable, but not the only factor by N3Bruce · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A lot of electrons are being thrown around about how sales tax is giving internet retailers an 'unfair advantage' compared to their brick and mortar counterparts. I ended up splitting my money roughly evenly between Amazon and their ilk, and their brick and mortar equivalents. Even with roughly equal prices, the internet stores allow the customer to avoid a major costly, time consuming, and stressful part of holiday shopping: the trip to the mall. If you figure the cost of car operation, and the time wasted driving, parking, walking past stores you won't patronize, and the aches and pains of shlepping all those packages around, sales tax barely registers. People are realizing that avoiding much of the hassle is valuable in itself.

    On the other hand, when I finally broke down and went to the local Mega Mall and went into the Books a Million to get a few fill-in gifts, I was surprised by how much being able to scan a large number of titles in a very short time was helpful in selecting gifts for hard to buy for relatives. While Amazon has their suggestive selling algorithms to suggest related information, seeing a book out of the corner of my eye frequently had me saying K--- would like this or TR would like that. It just isn't possible to present that kind of information as completely online as it is in a brick and mortar environment.

  24. Re:Not a surprise by sqrt(2) · · Score: 1

    Sex is great, but it's not the real thing.

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  25. Big items.... by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

    I dont know anybody whos gonna buy something like a TV online. Yeah, the TV may be $50 cheaper, but freight shipping is a major PITA, and is probably more expensive total. I'll certanly shop and compare online, but when it comes time to buy something large, heavy and fragile, i wanna put it in my car myself from the store.

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    1. Re:Big items.... by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      Exactly! And when it comes to such big-ticket items, always always ALWAYS get the four year extended warranty if shopping at BestBuy! Lightning stikes DO happen. It's best to be left with a boat anchor in case it does happen.

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    2. Re:Big items.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bought a 42" Panasonic online last March from Visual Apex at a discount of several hundred dollars. I'm still loving it. They provided better service than anyone short of NewEgg, and I've easily spent over $50,000 online through personal and business purchases.

  26. Important question by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

    But how much of it was on the all-important "Cyber Monday?"

  27. Not for a while, though. by MtViewGuy · · Score: 1
    For one reason: the absolute nightmare of trying to figure out the EXACT sales tax you'll pay for an online purchase.

    Remember, there are over 44,000 sales tax jurisdictions on all 50 states, and betweeen:

    1. Trying to figure out where the buyer is located to get the exact right sales tax level.

    2. Trying to disperse the sales tax revenue back to the local jurisdiction.

    ...The costs of compliance would not be worth it for everyone involved.

  28. I got... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got a firefox t-shirt from one of those make your own brand stores like cafepress, I forget the name of the place it was from... anyways, now I'm cool. I can't wait 'till the next lanparty.

  29. I found this to be blasphemy, everyone knows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I found this to be blasphemy, everyone knows that elves make the toys! Saying anything different isn't true.

  30. Not surprising by BenjyD · · Score: 1

    This is hardly surprising. Buying DVDs, CDs, games etc in the UK, the high street shops have a crappy selection, poor layout, overly loud music blaring and high prices. I was looking through some of the post-christmas sales offers and the prices only just matched Amazon's, even with a bunch of coupons.

  31. Not really... by artemis67 · · Score: 1

    Your employer reports your earnings to the IRS for you, if you work for someone else (as most people in this country do).