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Three Games That Didn't Make It
1up.com has a feature about three games with potential that never made it onto store shelves. From the article: "We look back at three games that died so young they never even made it out: They were cancelled before they could land on store shelves. Did gamers lose out on a great experience, or was it a lucky break for their unsuspecting wallets?" I played Thrill Kill for about five minutes at the 1998 GenCon, because I was working a booth two booths down. It was umm... bad. Games that don't make it to market, probably shouldn't.
Not only have I played many games that shouldn't have gone to market, but I've worked on a lot of them that REALLY shouldn't have gone out. Unfortunately, being a lowly game tester, my opinion doesn't seem to matter all that much.
It's a little depressing how little you hear about Duke Nukem Forever these days...
anyone who says Thrill Kill was a bad game needs to dig up a copy of Criticom for the Saturn. Now _there_ was a terrible game. But as for the first 4 player fighter? Sorry Yuu Yuu Hakusho: Makyo Toitsusen did it years ago on the Sega Genesis (and did a damn fine job, pitty we never got it, damn licensing *grumble*grumble*). And Street Racer ripped off Mario Kart long before mega man did.
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If you google for it you can defintely see hints that it has been released. Nothing definite but then it is an old title and google is infested with crap sites like 1up that push every game title they can find without having any content on their pages. (Wish there was a way to get google to filter its search results but that is another post)
Ah but of course wikipedia comes to the rescue. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrill_Kill seems I played a bootleg version. So anyone else who could have sworn they played a game that was never launched. You ain't hallucinating.
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I'm pretty sure that the engine for Thrill Kill was actually used later to make the first Wu Tang Clan fighting game. Yep, as this link puts it so well, "With a different fighting engine behind it, this could have been a much, much better game."
As far as I was ever concerned, this was one of the worst games to be squashed. There was this mythos that surrounded it as the most violent, bloody game ever, but not only was the gore way over-hyped, but the game itself was absolutely horrible. I'm sure this is why the blood and violence was added in the first place, to distract from the atrocity that was the rest of the game.
1. Final Fantasy 2(NES JP), 3(NES JP) and 5 (SNES JP). Yes, 2 and 5 were remade for the PS1 and 3 is being remade for the DS, but sans (VERY late) remakes, these games never saw U.S. soil. (Take your pick of reasons for each game ranging from 'too experimental' or 'it was too risky economically'.)
2. The entire Sakura Wars series. Given the sheer number of games and its popularity in Japan, its more or less considered to be a conspiracy as to why the games (or the anime, or the manga or the movies) haven't made it over here.
3. Any musical related game than DDR. (Either guitar, drums, or DJ-styled arcade game systems. Reasons/excuses not to bring it over here galore)
While it wasn't cancelled, Acclaim's The Red Star fell *just* short of making it to market when Acclaim finally closed the doors. It had already been approved by Sony for NTSC and was almost through Microsoft. Acclaim management didn't think the game would come to any notoriety thus nobody in power had any desire to muck about with it in an attempt to attach their name to it, which thankfully left the development team unfettered ability to do as they saw fit. I even have to commend the guys at Archangel for not trying to steer the gameplay design. Though they did throw the occasional fit when a color or shape didn't fit their vision of the license. I'm a rabid shooter fan who worked on it and trust me, rabid shooter fans everywhere were denied a pretty good game.
I heard the comic guys who held the Red Star license were shopping it around, but I never heard of any publisher taking interest in it. I noticed it was conspicuously absent from the list of Acclaim properties up for sale, I guess because of the licensing issues.
There are supposedly some fairly close-to-final ROMS of the XBox build out there, I highly recommend it if you're into shooters or brawlers.
...as did half the world. It wasn't a bad game. At the time there were very few four-player fighting games around, and it had some unique twists. The Wutang game that it became afterwards sucked a lot more than Thrill Kill.
I remember playing a bootleg version of thrill kill, and while it maybe wasnt the BEST game ever, it was certainly playable. Its probably horribly dated by todays standards, but that doesnt mean that at the time it wasnt good.
Ive also played Wu-tang, and that game sucks.
Thrill kill was violent, but it wasnt exceptionally so. Its the standard "cartoon" violence in games like mortal combat, of exploding people with a fist or ripping their hearts out - certainly enough to shock the censors, but not enough to affect me.
Its easy to slate games when no-one can remember or defend it, but how about picking on a game that actually SUCKS next time?
(extra note: theres something amusing about fighting with a character in a straightjacket, and still kicking your opponents ass. Look mum, no hands!)
There are so many games that were very promissing but never made it anywhere close to a release. And they only picked three?
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Back in the day the Thrill Kill ISO was pretty widely available... one of the testers leaked the ISO onto FTP sites and the nanocent P2P networks. You can still find it if you are interested, though it has become a bit more rare. It isn't bootleg, it's a leak.
Thrill Kill had a few interesting things about it. For one, you didn't have a health meter that went down. You had a carnage meter that went up. When you were fully carnaged, you could do a move that would kill off one of the other players. This lead to interesting situations where everyone is huddled in a corner trying to avoid the inevitable. It's the only fighting game I've ever played that had a special move of "put the other guy in front of you." There were also some unique moves... not having contortionists or midgets on stilts as staples in games, the developers could afford to get a little creative with character attacks. And being pre-GTAIII, it bled of a style that was lacking at the time. After the Night Trap debackle, nobody else seemed willing to reach out and make a game that pushed the boundaries of taste.
Unfortunately, it also pushed the playstation farther than it was capable of going. The fighting felt very, very loose, and the entire thing ran at about 20 FPS at best. Also, fighting with 4 people got quite "dirty," as you might be attacking someone while someone attacks you who is getting attacked by someone else. As the game was combo-centric, and this ended combos, making the experience quite frustrating. Further wearing down the gameplay was the repetition of enemies in the single player mode. With three other characters in every battle, you ran through the full roster of the game in about two and a half fights. The developers didn't throw in any variants like 1v1 or 2v2 or 3v1, etc, so the fighting was all vanilla. The arenas didn't help reduce the sense of repetition, as while they had some degree of variability in set pieces, they were all perfectly square of exactly the same dimensions and they all played identically.
I have to say: I was into the whole "let's make the least tasteful game possible" thing. The playstation wasn't the right platform for it, and there needed to be a second generation of gameplay, but it had potential and opened the door for later multiplayer fighters who could avoid all of Thrill Kill's mistakes.
BTW, Thrill Kill is probably the only properly dead game on the list. Earthbound 0 and Mega Man B&C both saw overseas releases, and both have retro-pack releases coming up in the US. It's too bad they didn't list out more interesting titles that were actively canned before production was up, such as Secret of Mana for the SNES CD and Sonic the Hedgehog 32X (and about a million other games... 3/4ths of all games never get released).
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"I highly recommend it if you're into shooters or brawlers."
Pardon my incredulity, but Ikaruga and Final Fight are not really that similar in terms of gameplay. How is it that people who like shooters or brawlers (being so different) would be inclined to play this game?
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Back in the N64 days, a couple Nintendo websites reported that a playable simulation of the most popular pinball table of all time (and for good reason), Addams Family, was in the works. Word was that it was even spotted behind the scenes at an E3. I was very eagerly awaiting it... but for one reason or another, it never appeared.
Other than that, I don't know anything about it. Rare, back in the NES/Gameboy days, produced a small number of video adaptations of Bally/Williams pinball tables that remain among the better examples of the genre we've seen, but I haven't heard that they were behind it.
Why was it cancelled? If it's about a perceived non-viability of video pinball, then how come Nintendo and Sega keep releasing video pinball games even now? (On GBA we've seen Mario Pinball, Sonic Pinball Party and Pinball of the Dead, DS has the surprisingly well-made Metroid Prime Pinball, and of course there's the upcoming Odama for Gamecube.) And if there's any real-world pinball table that would sell in video form it would be Addams Family.
My guess is the game got tied up in rights issues, since the arcade machine was based off of a movie that was in turn based off a series of comic drawings. Among the makers of the table, the producers of the movie, and whoever owns the rights to the characters, all it needed was one person to veto the project, and I guess veto it they did.
I've played two of those games, Thrill Kill and EB Zero. Not legal copies, but still fully working games. So, that shit is available if you want it.
"Games that don't make it to market, probably shouldn't."
Can you keep your foot out of your mouth for one post? Games can fail to reach the market for a whole variety of reasons. Budgets get cut, schedules get shifted around, publishers make company-wide decisions to drop support for a specific platform or market sector, licenses fall through. Sometimes perfectly good, ready-to-ship games get mothballed for reasons completely beyond the developers' control.
Of course, most of the games that don't see the light of day the public gets to hear very little about, so I'll use as an example a game that reached retail by the skin of its teeth: Psychonauts. This game was dropped by Microsoft Game Studios, was very belatedly picked up by Majesco (not in the best of health as a publisher) and is still awaiting release in Europe through THQ. And yet it has been universally praised by critics, with Eurogamer naming it as their game of the year for 2005.
In future maybe you'll think for a second before issuing forth ill informed statements on the basis of worthless filler pieces on 1UP.com.
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Contra is an action game.
Ikaruga is a shooter.
Final Fight is a brawler.
Dragon Warrior is an RPG.
Super Mario Bros is a platformer.
Mario 64 is a 3D platformer.
It's very difficult to have a high-quality gaming conversation with people who are unaware of what games belong in what genres, and what those genres are named.
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This was a japanse game that used to be on the dreamcast, then they ported it to Xbox. The xbox version was supposed to come here, and there were even a few reviews of the english version floating around, but it never materialized :/ Looked great too.
Games that don't make it to market, probably shouldn't.
And with these words, Zonk seals his fate to a slow, painful death at the hands of every Fallout fan who tore thier hair out when the third one was cancelled.
How about Earthbound 64? In that we had the sequel to what was probably the most unique RPG for the SNES, and one of the greatest cult classics of our times. E64 was 2/3 complete when it was canned. There was a game that should have made the list.
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Babylon 5: Into the Fire.
Now that was a game that deserved to see the light of day.
But no, Sierra in their infinite wisdom canned it, and several other worthy games, in favour of gems like Virtual Bullrider, or whatever it was.
The freeware game B5: "I've Found Her" has picked up the mantle quite nicely, but it would have been great to see what the original team would have produced -- especially as it was an officially sanctioned project, and had original footage featuring many of the cast from the series. Sadly, all that material is now lost to the vaults of Sierra.
I've been waiting/hoping for this to come out since 2000. The first version - Stars! - was a Civ-type game played in space, and is still played by fans 10 years later; the sequel would be more of the same but with awesome graphics, better combat system, spys/diplomacy, less micromanagement, and fully extendable. Also with an end-of-turn newspaper created to help you track events.
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I'd check back to the official website and the fans sites every few months, drool over the screenshots, and read the beta testers game reports.. Sadly, sometime last year the websites have gone away. http://www.crisium.com/ and http://www.starbasedelta.com/ (fan faq)
I've only been able to find this review left with some great screenshots..
http://pc.ign.com/objects/015/015220.html#preview
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I wouldn't normally bother to say so, but this was an astonishingly lame article. It was short, uninteresting and inaccurate. I read CmdrTaco's comments on the Roland Piquepaille/* * Beatles-Beatles furore with interest, and I realise that some stories will sometimes slip through the editorial net, but *surely* there was something more interesting to publish than this.