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Thunderbird 1.5 Arrives
Tech Support writes "Thunderbird 1.5 is here! It's ready to download, so get going. Finally, Firefox 1.5 has its counterpart. New features included automatic updates, anti-phishing protection, inline spellchecking, saved search folders, podcasting, RSS improvements, the ability to delete attachments from messages, and a whole lot more."
That's a tasty feature. Why isn't there a "Spread Thunderbird" website? mmm... Spread...
It'd be nice if they were aware of each other.
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That's a 1.5-1.07 => .43/1.07 => .401*100 => 40.1% upgrade!
This has been in Thunderbird since at least 1.0
View > Layout > Vertical View
If you like an integrated suite, be sure to give SeaMonkey a try. It's got pretty much the same features as Thunderbird 1.5, but also includes a browser and more.
My server
And just what is wrong with the Playboy Calendar?
Czech language for absolute beginners
Honestly, this is the very feature Thunderbird is lacking that prevents me from switching to it. I get a whole bunch of VCAL messages from my Outlook-utilizing co-workers, which end up simply in my head since I use pine.
If thunderbird had VCAL support and very basic calendaring, I'd switch because then I'd actually have a reason to use it over pine.
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Can anyone say "feature creep"?
Absurdity: A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion. -- Ambrose Bierce
If IMAP isn't available for your email: Thunderbird allows you to "leave the (POP) messages on the server", "don't delete (from server) until moved from inbox", and "fetch headers only" from server.
I use "leave messages on server" and "Don't Delete" functions for portability as well as being able to access the same mailbox(es) from multiple computers(ie. pulling my personal mail to my work computer and leaving it available for home computer, or pulling my gmail account email to the email client and keeping it available on webmail too).
I also backup my %root%/Documents and Settings/%username%/Application Data/Thunderbird folder to keep my email settings the same as they were pre-reformat if I'm doing a backup before I reinstall windows every ~3 months or so. You can do the same with Firefox, but I have run into some problems if I saved said profile folder from one version and tried to port it into a new version. The easy fix is to make sure you keep the installer from the last version of software, replace the profile folder, and upgrade with the newest installer.
I had college once, but I drank some fluids and got a lot of rest and eventually it was cured.
The Lightning project is Thunderbird with calendaring built-in.
Yeah, but it sucks because Thunderbird doesn't support the part that makes it workable: multiline listings for the messages. You can't comfortably fit message data in a small column without a creative layout.
Click on the "Properties", Click on the "Outgoing Server", Click on "Add". There you can add the SMTP server you want.
Then to associate the server you want for a particular account. Go into that account's main Account Settings page and you'll see a dropdown listbox that will have the SMTP server you just added.
It's working a bit different from 1.0.7.
If you had 1.5rc2 installed: Scott MacGregor wrote that the 1.5 release has no changes since rc2. So you won't need to update unless you really want that build date (like me)
Trivial to fix with a custom userChrome.css stylesheet. /* if full headers are enabled, trigger a scrollbar after ten lines */ /* keep the enigmail box from creating a scrollbar - annoying */
I don't have Thunderbird, but I had problem with expanded headers so I simply did the following:
#msgHeaderView
{
max-height: 10em;
overflow: auto;
}
#expandedEnigmailBox
{
max-width: 80em;
}
I don't know if the DOM Inspector is available for Thunderbird, but every time I want to
tweak the suite a little, I actually edit it. No harder than editing a web page.
-- perl -e'print pack"H*","6e656d6f406d38792e6f7267"'
Try replying to a large email (100K+) -- Thunderbird will choke and your CPU usage will go through the roof, as Thunderbird inexplicably tries to spellcheck words you've not written in the previous email history. I've had Thunderbird choke for over 10 minutes on certain emails before I finally had to kill the process.
Hoping they fixed this one for 1.5-final.
What you really want is Lightning. Unfortunately, they appear to have missed their December 2005 target release date for v0.1
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
- A reasonable (1GB+) amount of disk space.
- IMAP and webmail access.
I've seen various combinations (particularly a large amount of disk space with POP), but never a really good IMAP service. If someone knows of one please let me know!You should try using evolution. I recently switched to that from using thunderbird for 1.5 years, and kmail before that. At this rate, it'll be a long time before I switch again.
They're not blocked by the update, they're blocked by the creator of the extension in the configuration file.
If you want to try to manually bump your extensions (so that Thunderbird sees them as compatible), close Thunderbird, go to %APPDATA%\Thunderbird\Profiles\{your_profile}\exte nsions, open the "extensions.rdf" file, bump all the "em:maxVersion" that are set at 1.0, 1.0+ or 1.0.something to "1.5+", save, close, restart thunderbird.
Beware though, if you have TRULY incompatible extensions (may happen, especially for big version changes), you may bork your UI completely. I'd suggest a full profile archiving before trying so that you can reset everything if issues arise.
"The way we can tell it's C# instead of Haskell is because it's nine lines instead of two." -- wadler
Maybe Mozilla should look into offering some sort of all in one solution, like web browsing, email and a calendar function in an all together coordinated release? Maybe that would work, keep those apps most folks use all the time anyway in sync with each other and be one good quality app people could use for those common functions. I think it's a good idea,I wish they would try it, seems like a potentially great solution;)
So we'll have TBird, Firefox, and a Calendar all running off 3 instances of the same runtime engine - hey, that's SMART!
why not have the runtime engine built into all three products but only install if it isn't already present? Ya know, save memory and work on improving 1 engine instead of 3. Oh yeah, that's too smart and already exists as Mozilla (which was canned)...err...SeaMonkey.
This is being brought to you by the same category of boffins that duped you into believing that tearing apart the StarOffice Suite would IMPROVE system response when, in fact, it has slowed things down about tenfold while using up MORE memory.
I don't doubt that they are good products on their own but how about using a runtime engine that is already present instead of loading a new one each time - PAY ATTENTION SUN AND OO.ORG.
The regression of these 2 areas (i.e. Mozilla and openoffice) is so sad and considering that they are the 2 most used packages says something about the leaders of these software packages.
For the life of me, I can't figure out:
1) Why Sun dumped the integrated package and didn't make it opensource while opensourcing the split apps.
2) Why the promise of increased speed hasn't been fulfilled?
3) Why things would get 10x worse, in terms of speed, with OO?
4) Why the FF and TB creaters aren't working on a common GRE? How many people DON'T use both at the same time?! I love the packages but after seeing the memory useage when using both and comparing to Mozilla, I quickly went back to the Mozilla Suite.
Enough ranting for the day
Release Notes read
All Systems
* Prior to installing Thunderbird 1.5, please ensure that the directory you've chosen to install into is clean and doesn't contain any previous Thunderbird installations.
Easy enough to miss.
Their largest account comes with 2GB's of space, IMAP/POP, Spam Assasin, Sieve, 250MB of file space and tonnes more other things. All for only 40bucks a year. They have other plans, so you can pick and choose what you need.
No, apparently it's not. CSS patches have been tried, and for some reason it doesn't work right for the attachment pane. See the following bugs for details (copy link to a new tab, slashdot referrer is blocked):
If you can find a css tweak that works, please submit a patch.
I believe this is indeed the replacement name for what used to be known as "GRE" (Gecko Runtime Environment) and can be used for *any* XUL-based application, not just stuff coming out of the Moz development team. What's not clear to me yet is exactly when this will be complete enough to be used by Firefox etc. - maybe for 2.0, maybe not.
Uninstall your old versions of Thunderbird before running the installer for 1.5. I and a few other have had trouble when we let the installer for 1.5 just overwrite the older version. Backup your profiles, uninstall old version, install 1.5, and you should be good to go.
Well this just bit me and too be honest, the fact that it doesnt warn you that youre installing over an existing directory when doing the install *AND IF YOU DO DO SO IT BREAKS* I really class as a bug and one as bad as many Ive found in any MS product. Sure I like TB but good software should NOT do this sort of thing.
I use Kontact because I use KDE. You have to install half of KDE to get Kontact as it uses a *lot* of accessory apps, daemons, and the like. If I used Gnome or XFCE, I'd use Evolution. They are fairly similar- Evolution being a little bit more like Outlook and a little more professional (in my opinion) and Kontact is much more feature-filled as it has an RSS reader, built-in PDA sync program, a weather applet, etc. Both work very well, as does Thunderbird.
Just "gittin-r-done," day after day.
So we'll have TBird, Firefox, and a Calendar all running off 3 instances of the same runtime engine - hey, that's SMART!
Yes, it is, because it means that they all can use different versions of the runtime engine.
For the life of me, I can't figure out:
Well, keep thinking about it, maybe eventually you will figure it out. It makes sense to me: Firefox, Thunderbird, and OOo get the job done with a memory footprint, speed, and release dates that I can live with. That's what counts.