Regardless, new Cisco gear still calls it that and still does, or at least can operate in the mode I suggest. All our 6500 and 7200 gear on campus does. The routers have a seperate router and switch side you can log in to and administer. I do not know the reasons for such a configuration (they support a unified mode as well but it's not used) just that it is done that way.
You are digressing here.
Let's go back to your original statement.
Does it support layer-3 switching? That's where you in effect route the first packet of a flow and switch the rest.
As I previously pointed out -- the act of punting the first packet of a flow to a CPU is called flow-based switching and is used across multiple low-to-mid-end platforms.
leads to much lower impact on the router, and lower pings.
Lower impact than a CPU based router, yes. Lower than a FIB-based router, no. Large number of flows will kill a flow-based switching router.
Lower pings? No. All ICMP packets must be processed by a CPU (regardless whether linecards are using flow or FIB.)
Can't do it going from one media to another, but for internal routing it's the way to go.
No idea what you are trying to say here. FIB or flow-based architecure will work across different media.
3) Does it support layer-3 switching? That's where you in effect route the first packet of a flow and switch the rest. Leads to much lower impact on the router, and lower pings. Can't do it going from one media to another, but for internal routing it's the way to go.
Actually, there is no such thing as layer-3 "switching". Layer 3 is routing, plain and simple.
What you are trying to describe is flow-based switching, which is present in older Cisco gear, such as Cat5k as well as other lower-end equipment from other vendors.
Any device worth its mustard nowadays has a FIB based architecture where routes from the route processor are stored on the linecard on CAM, which does linerate lookups without ever having to hit a CPU.
I've about a dozen folders, and my Inbox in particular is approaching 30k emails. I've had no problems. Even using the quick search toolbar returns results in a jiffy.
I've been using 1.5 since RC1, and as much as I was looking forward to having this feature, I've had disabled inline spellchecking because it's not quite ready for prime time.
Try replying to a large email (100K+) -- Thunderbird will choke and your CPU usage will go through the roof, as Thunderbird inexplicably tries to spellcheck words you've not written in the previous email history. I've had Thunderbird choke for over 10 minutes on certain emails before I finally had to kill the process.
The radio links that provide data communication between the trains and the control center are encrypted, but how long until a hacker manages to crack it?
I think you just gave away the plot for the next season of 24.;)
I wonder if thunderbird will be able to integrate the connector into their code?
Some of us are still forced to use windows at the workplace for other reasons (Visio a big one), but would love to have an open win32 email client that can connect to exchange for calendaring reasons.
If you know the full word that you are searching for, why not spend an extra 0.001 nanojoule to type it all up and then search for it? Granted you may want to search for parts of a string, but if this was ever a big issue, Google would not have been what it is today.
There is a difference when you are searching the web and when you are searching email. By definition, your knowledge of your inbox is much more intimate than your knowledge of the entire web. As such, partial word matches wouldn't give you the false hits that a web search would, and if they were false hits, it would be easy enough to ignore.
Sure, I could type the entire name, that's not the point. Computers are supposed to make our lives easier.
I still like gmail enough to use it for my primary email, but that doesn't mean it is perfect.
I've had a beta account for about a week now, and ironically enough I find the search feature the most lacking.
You can only do whole word searches... if you want to search for emails from your friend Bob Chuzzlewit-Pumblechook, and you have ten friends named Bob, you can't shorten your search by searching for "Chuzz", as that will return nothing.
Kind of ironic, since on any other email client you can search for partial words.
As a Sr Network Engineer at a Tier-1 ISP, I'll give you my two cents from my personal experience and those I've worked with.
Personally, I got a Computer and Systems Engineering Degree, and stayed an extra year for a Masters. The extra year was well worth it, as it allowed me to take many graduate-level networking classes.
These classes beat the OSI model to death, but also got real deep into networking theory, which involved a lot of queueing theory, Markov chains, and a bunch of stuff that I never really need to use on a daily basis.
However, what it gave me is a understanding of networking from the bottom up, and as such I am able to pick up and thoroughly understand new technology and protocols with ease.
Most in the network engineering field do not have this sort of background, and my experience has been that those without this education are not able to pick up and _really_ understand things quite as easily.
It does indeed help to have 'real world' experience with routers, but learn the theories first. Once you have that, you can pick up anything.
Don't spend much effort to getting a CCNA, CCNP, CCIE, etc. It'll give you a 10,000 ft view of how things work, but you really won't have the same level of understanding.
Quite frankly most people I've worked with that have such certifications shouldn't be anywhere near a production router, but that is another story.
Hope this helps, and of course there are exceptions to every generalisation.
It's obvious you *do* run a small network if you think that EIGRP is better than OSPF.
There is probably a reason why every medium to large ISP runs either OSPF or IS-IS, and its not because they don't want to get locked into Cisco.
"And besides, how many bicycles are actually made from aluminum or fancy alloys/composites? No bicycle I've ever ridden, I know that much."
Try any road bike, ranging from low-end to high-end. Sure, the sexiest material to use nowadays is carbon fiber (i.e. Lance's Trek), but there are many many bikes frames that use aluminum. Cannondale might be the most famous for it (all they way up to their CAAD7 frame), although admittedly even Cannondale is starting to get into carbon fiber. Their latest frame, which Saeco is riding in the TdF, is a blend of both alumimum and carbon fiber.
Granted it doesn't go into all that much detail, but it does discuss the possibility of solar sails and various other techniques being explored to reach alpha centauri.
Yeah, yeah, you'll actually have to (*gasp*) read something that is printed on paper, sorry.
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You are digressing here.
Let's go back to your original statement.
Does it support layer-3 switching? That's where you in effect route the first packet of a flow and switch the rest.
As I previously pointed out -- the act of punting the first packet of a flow to a CPU is called flow-based switching and is used across multiple low-to-mid-end platforms.
leads to much lower impact on the router, and lower pings.
Lower impact than a CPU based router, yes. Lower than a FIB-based router, no. Large number of flows will kill a flow-based switching router.
Lower pings? No. All ICMP packets must be processed by a CPU (regardless whether linecards are using flow or FIB.)
Can't do it going from one media to another, but for internal routing it's the way to go.
No idea what you are trying to say here. FIB or flow-based architecure will work across different media.
Actually, there is no such thing as layer-3 "switching". Layer 3 is routing, plain and simple.
What you are trying to describe is flow-based switching, which is present in older Cisco gear, such as Cat5k as well as other lower-end equipment from other vendors.
Any device worth its mustard nowadays has a FIB based architecture where routes from the route processor are stored on the linecard on CAM, which does linerate lookups without ever having to hit a CPU.
I've about a dozen folders, and my Inbox in particular is approaching 30k emails. I've had no problems. Even using the quick search toolbar returns results in a jiffy.
Try replying to a large email (100K+) -- Thunderbird will choke and your CPU usage will go through the roof, as Thunderbird inexplicably tries to spellcheck words you've not written in the previous email history. I've had Thunderbird choke for over 10 minutes on certain emails before I finally had to kill the process.
Hoping they fixed this one for 1.5-final.
Hmm. No thanks. I'll sell mine on ebay.
I think you just gave away the plot for the next season of 24. ;)
hmm... and how does this help me watch more DVDs on long flights?
"They don't add anything remotely interresting for the average consumer."
Thus, by your argument, HDTV will never take off. Meanwhile HDTV sales are increasing every year.
"The average consumer is still buying Full-Screen edition of the movies."
Wrong. Most DVD sales are widescreen.
Consumers aren't always as dumb as you might think.
I wonder if thunderbird will be able to integrate the connector into their code?
Some of us are still forced to use windows at the workplace for other reasons (Visio a big one), but would love to have an open win32 email client that can connect to exchange for calendaring reasons.
There is a difference when you are searching the web and when you are searching email. By definition, your knowledge of your inbox is much more intimate than your knowledge of the entire web. As such, partial word matches wouldn't give you the false hits that a web search would, and if they were false hits, it would be easy enough to ignore.
Sure, I could type the entire name, that's not the point. Computers are supposed to make our lives easier.
I still like gmail enough to use it for my primary email, but that doesn't mean it is perfect.
I've had a beta account for about a week now, and ironically enough I find the search feature the most lacking.
You can only do whole word searches... if you want to search for emails from your friend Bob Chuzzlewit-Pumblechook, and you have ten friends named Bob, you can't shorten your search by searching for "Chuzz", as that will return nothing.
Kind of ironic, since on any other email client you can search for partial words.
My interest in games waned after their demise.
After hearing about the sequel, I was eagerly awaiting the chance to purchase.
LucasArts just lost out on my money.. I wonder how many more people they are alienating?
As a Sr Network Engineer at a Tier-1 ISP, I'll give you my two cents from my personal experience and those I've worked with. Personally, I got a Computer and Systems Engineering Degree, and stayed an extra year for a Masters. The extra year was well worth it, as it allowed me to take many graduate-level networking classes. These classes beat the OSI model to death, but also got real deep into networking theory, which involved a lot of queueing theory, Markov chains, and a bunch of stuff that I never really need to use on a daily basis. However, what it gave me is a understanding of networking from the bottom up, and as such I am able to pick up and thoroughly understand new technology and protocols with ease. Most in the network engineering field do not have this sort of background, and my experience has been that those without this education are not able to pick up and _really_ understand things quite as easily. It does indeed help to have 'real world' experience with routers, but learn the theories first. Once you have that, you can pick up anything. Don't spend much effort to getting a CCNA, CCNP, CCIE, etc. It'll give you a 10,000 ft view of how things work, but you really won't have the same level of understanding. Quite frankly most people I've worked with that have such certifications shouldn't be anywhere near a production router, but that is another story. Hope this helps, and of course there are exceptions to every generalisation.
Cisco GSR platform has HW based IPv6 support, so does Juniper, Procket, and pretty much anyone who is in the core router market nowadays.
"The more people who use your software, the better chances that big industry guy X will pick it up."
This is of course true in a general sense. In Maya's case, however, they are already the de-facto standard for most big CG houses.
It probably won't get them any more sales from the big guys, but it may get them more of the little guys.
It's obvious you *do* run a small network if you think that EIGRP is better than OSPF. There is probably a reason why every medium to large ISP runs either OSPF or IS-IS, and its not because they don't want to get locked into Cisco.
"And besides, how many bicycles are actually made from aluminum or fancy alloys/composites? No bicycle I've ever ridden, I know that much."
Try any road bike, ranging from low-end to high-end. Sure, the sexiest material to use nowadays is carbon fiber (i.e. Lance's Trek), but there are many many bikes frames that use aluminum. Cannondale might be the most famous for it (all they way up to their CAAD7 frame), although admittedly even Cannondale is starting to get into carbon fiber. Their latest frame, which Saeco is riding in the TdF, is a blend of both alumimum and carbon fiber.
Granted it doesn't go into all that much detail, but it does discuss the possibility of solar sails and various other techniques being explored to reach alpha centauri. Yeah, yeah, you'll actually have to (*gasp*) read something that is printed on paper, sorry.