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ZDNet on the Essence of Geek

sebFlyte writes "ZDNet has a feature on The Essence of Geek, which looks at the rise of the geek (and the fact that everyone's turning into one), in the years post .com boom." From the article: "For a few years, an interest in computers and technology became inextricable linked with wealth and power -- geek became chic. Technology companies suddenly became the focus of the kind of attention that had been reserved for the music or fashion industries. In the UK TV makers even went so far as to create a hip series, Attachments, based around the antics of a tech start-up."

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  1. It takes more than that by MoxCamel · · Score: 4, Insightful
    and the fact that everyone's turning into [a geek]...

    Um...no. Owning an iPod and knowing how to use it doesn't make you a geek. Knowing how to use your Windows smartphone doesn't make you a geek. Discussing mobile phone design doesn't make you a geek, because from tfa, I don't think they were talking about protocols or other engineering aspects. Even knowing how to synchronize your email with your smartphone doesn't make you a geek. It makes you a slave, but not a geek.

    Knowing how to use technical things in the prescribed manner does not make you a geek, any more than knowing the exits on an airplane makes you a flight attendent. Knowing how to use technical things in ways they were never meant to be used makes you a geek. (and this is only one small definition "geekiness.")

    Saying that "we're all geeks" is like saying "everyone is special, just like you."

    Mox

    1. Re:It takes more than that by D-Cypell · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Nerds are people that are fascinated by technology. Geeks are people that are fascinated by technology, but know what to do with it."

      Case in point, Bill Gates is a nerd. Linus Torvalds is a geek. IMHO.


      Do me a favour! You are suggesting that Bill Gates, the guy who built a technology company that changed the entire planet and based on the success attained a personal fortune that is larger than the GDP of many countries is someone who is "fascinated by technology but doesnt know what to do with it!". I think not!

      It is time to stop trying to define the terms nerd, geek, dork etc they mean nothing. I happen to be a software professional whose hobbies are mostly related to tech too. I have been called all of these things (and more :oP), as a wise-mane once said... "I am what I am and that's all that I am!".

  2. Everyone is a Geek. by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Everyone. Everyone has that one area of passion in which they excel and have a knowledge of minutae. Be it Red Sox stats dating to 1903, the best ways to obtain and smoke drugs, or how to make a rocket- everyone is a Geek in one way shape or form. Now we're just finally realizing it.

    After all, how different is dressing up for a Star Trek Convention and a Football game? Not much...

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    1. Re:Everyone is a Geek. by tommers · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well one big difference is that the number of people in American society who dress up for Star Trek Conventions is smaller by many orders of magnitudes than the number of people who dress up for Fotoball games.

      Not everyone has passion, but more importantly the level of passion for traditional interests like baseball still has much more breadth and depth than baseball.

      I agree the geek is "more" chic, especially in certain tech-conscious areas like the valley, but I think the article and this post perceive it to be a much more significant trend than is justified by the info provided.

      And to look at it from another perspective, I think modern politics have reflected an increase in anti-intellectualism. This was most apparent in the success of the the 2004 Bush/Cheney campaign and an antagonism towards science the Intelligent Design issue seems to have espoused/surfaced. And while geeks might not value the "cultured" aspect of intellectualism, they still seem to be pro-intellectual.

  3. And geek is not chic. by khasim · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Until the high school cheerleaders start hanging out at the chess club, geek ain't chic.

    This is just about toys. Pre-packaged, nearly idiot proof, toys.

    1. Re:And geek is not chic. by packeteer · · Score: 4, Funny

      Everyone may be turning into a geek but on slashdot we are still all just dorks.

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  4. I'm a geek now! by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 5, Funny

    Like, omg, I'm so totally a geek now! I can IM, and sync my ipod, and blog, and post myspace pix! And like, even I know that those popups are annoying!

    I am SO geek!!!!

  5. I don't know about rockstar by AviLazar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I still don't have my 5000 groupie girls who would spread their legs open for me en masse'....however, when I meet girls and i tell them I program they pretty much go "oh wow, you must make a lot of money" and then i snicker to myself in sadness...obviously i don't argue with them (what girl wants a poor guy) but hey :) It is, however, more accepted. I know many hot girls who love places like myspace, AIM, etc.

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  6. Book of Revelations? by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 5, Funny

    "For a few years, an interest in computers and technology became inextricable linked with wealth and power -- geek became chic"

    I'm pretty sure this is one of the signs of the apocalypse

  7. Ancient Geek Mythology by digitaldc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He claims that increasingly, "we're all geeks" -- even if a lot of people don't care to admit it.

    I remember when a geek was a guy who was extremely intelligent, read books, didn't dress well or had the latest fashions, never had a good haircut/hygiene, was not good at sports and never made out with girls.

    If we are all indeed 'geeks' than the word geek doesn't mean anything. Or maybe we're just all nerds trying to be geeks?

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  8. Re:Essence of Geek? by xlr8ed · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's smells like a mix of Dorito's and Mom's basement

  9. Quick recipe by GillBates0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Essence of Geek:
    Serves: 1

    Ingredients:
    2 tbsp Mountain Dew: cooled to room temperature
    12 fl oz generic beer
    2 oz Cheetos: crushed to fine powder
    5 oz Bacon strips: fried till crisp
    0.5 lb butter: at room temperature
    0.5 lbs onions: ground to fine consistency
    2 nos. matured socks: preferably fermented for 3 days

    Preparation:
    Preparation Time: 5 minutes.

    Heat butter in pan until gently melting. Stir in remaining ingredients and simmer till delicious smell begins to whaffle through kitchen. Cool to room temperature, drain and apply in generous proportion.

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  10. The Geek is dead. Long live the Geek! by davidgrouchy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now the guys who picked on me are geeks too?

  11. Re:Essence of Geek? by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sounds like a line of new cologne from Ralph Loren aimed at today's IT workers.

    Sold in compressed air duster cans

  12. Geek = wealth? by dada21 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When did wealth mean "big credit lines?"

    Most geeks I meet have negative net equity due to outrageous debt loads. Maybe it's just Chicago? It seems that every geek here thinks they can live like Sergei Brin.

    I wonder if all the common people see are (leased) BMW's, (interest-only mortgaged) 5-bedroom homes and (almost maxed out) platinum cards when they see supergeeks?

    Talk about keeping up with the Joneses.

  13. Geek-Cred by Slipgrid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Um...no. Owning an iPod and knowing how to use it doesn't make you a geek. Knowing how to use your Windows smartphone doesn't make you a geek. Discussing mobile phone design doesn't make you a geek, because from tfa, I don't think they were talking about protocols or other engineering aspects. Even knowing how to synchronize your email with your smartphone doesn't make you a geek. It makes you a slave, but not a geek.

    Yeah, but some teen who wants to *fit-in* with the geeky kids, might buy these things thanking it helps. It's like when you were in high school, and saw that guy walking about with a tie dye Dead shirt on. He wasn't a hippy, and likly never found a Dead song that he liked, and never when to the show, but he did buy a tie dye shirt. Very trendy.

    Now, I've got a cs degree, and I know I geek my friends out with blab that they don't care about, but I don't own an iPod because of the DRM issues. Some people might say that someone who won't buy an iPod because of the DRM issues is a bigger geek than someone who owns them. However, the article is making a point. It does't matter if these people have any geek-cred. It's obvious that they want that geek-cred, just like the dude with the tie dye shirt.

  14. Using technology vs. controlling it by lawaetf1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No doubt the term "geek" has been coopted by the media to describe, basically, the digerati generation. But I have to agree with my fellow /.ers... using your ipod and knowing how to upload photos from your cell phone does not make you a geek.

    Geek's don't just use technology, they understand how it is put together and desire to change or "hack" it for their own purposes. A geek molds technology to suit him, a regular schmoe makes do with what has been handed his way by 3com, intel, microsoft, etc, etc.
    That is the difference.

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  15. Glorious Geek Revolution by tokki · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We are in the midst of the Glorius Geek Revolution. Sure, high school sucks for geeks. It sucked for me, and it still sucks for most geeks today, but the life after high school has dramtically changed for the geek, for the better.

    A lot of the rags to riches stories involves geeks. South Park's creators, Family Guy's creator, Matt Groenig, Woz and Steve Jobs.

    We live better lives than our geek forefathers. A smart, industrious geek these days often earns a better living and lifestyle than our jock counterpart.

    Society is getting geekier. Take cops shows. They used to be buddy films, the cool guys with street smarts driving cool cars in chase scenes. Now the top cop show is CSI. Geeks with badges, walking around with black lights, analyzing semen. NCIS, Law and Order, The West Wing, Adult Swim... culture has definately taken a turn for the geekier end of the spectrum.

    Nerd girls are doing well as well. I read somewhere that SNL producers were worried about Tina Fey in glasses, but it turns out it totally works, and she has tremendous appeal and talent.

    Of course, as we start having kids and they grow up, maybe they'll be jocks, and maybe they'll be teased unmercifully by the geeks.

  16. Re:What makes a geek by Syberghost · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah, get outta here, you geeks!