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Other Uses for Wiki Software?

CodeMonkey22 asks: "The much-discussed Wikipedia could be considered the quintessential definition of what Wiki software is capable of. More recently, however, a plethora of specialized reference websites, such as Wookieepedia (Star-Wars) and the Marvel Database (Marvel Comics), have popped up. This got me to thinking, are websites the only viable use for wiki software? Working in an IT department, the first alternative that came to my mind was an intranet knowledge-base. TWiki, for instance, touts itself as 'an Enterprise Collaboration Platform'. What other uses could take advantage of Wiki? What changes would be needed to make it more applicable in other areas of use?"

113 comments

  1. Tech Support? by MentalMooMan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I was actually thinking about this earlier today. Would it not be pretty useful to use wiki software for customer "tickets" in tech support?
    Seems pretty sensible to me, even if it's a little overkill.

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    1. Re:Tech Support? by Daxster · · Score: 1

      It already is - a lot of small (or large...) open source projects need as much help as they can with documentation. With that usually comes troubleshooting and a FAQ, which wikis are excellent at. This allows people needing tech support to get it.

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    2. Re:Tech Support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      See Trac ("an enhanced wiki and issue tracking system for software development projects"), which integrates both a wiki and a ticket system (among other things such as version control) together. This means you can use wiki markup in tickets and commit logs, and link from wiki pages to tickets etc and vice versa. Nice :-)

    3. Re:Tech Support? by makomk · · Score: 2, Informative

      Mod parent up. Trac looks to be quite nice/interesting actually, as long as you're using Subversion. There's a sandbox here if you want to play around with it. Not many projects use it, though (I know MythTV does, but other than that...)

    4. Re:Tech Support? by maxume · · Score: 1

      This is pretty much exactly what track does:

      http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/

      I would also toss out the observation that it seems to 'fall over' more often than would be considered 'ideal'. I can't really back it up with much, but projects using track seem to have more 'wiki down' mailing list posts. Perhaps it is because people actually use it, who knows.

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    5. Re:Tech Support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is no longer limited to subversion actually - there are already plugins for mercurial, perforce and more (see http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/VersioningS ystemBackend).

      Some other open-source projects that use Trac include adium, catalyst, ruby on rails and madwifi - see http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracUsers for more.

  2. Collaborative Writing by Eightyford · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I know the original question is about non-website uses, but my idea could be intranet based also. I had the idea for a collaborative writing sytem at wiction.org but things came up and I never finished the site. I still think it is a good idea though.

    1. Re:Collaborative Writing by Zachary+Kessin · · Score: 1

      About 6 months ago I was working on a startup with a few other people and we used a wiki to plan out various things. THe wiki worked great, the startup never started for other reasons.

      What we used was just the wikimedia software with a username/password infront of it.

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    2. Re:Collaborative Writing by patro · · Score: 1

      Writeboard does something like this.

    3. Re:Collaborative Writing by Eightyford · · Score: 1

      That looks like a great webapp. I'm starting to think that it's impossible to have an original idea these days. The worst was when I came up with the fax-through-email idea about a year too late.

    4. Re:Collaborative Writing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In addition to twiki, check out the JotSpot wiki. People have used it for managing projects, corporate intranets, document collaboration, and a number of other apps.

  3. Collaborative Documentation by tonsofpcs · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Documentation for open source projects, such as this example from VideoLAN's wiki. Also, collaboration on new features

    1. Re:Collaborative Documentation by zCyl · · Score: 1

      Documentation for open source projects, such as this example from VideoLAN's wiki. Also, collaboration on new features

      What about the source code for a project? I wouldn't really suggest using a wiki in the full-open format where anyone can contribute, because the potential for slipping in unnoticed and dangerous code is too great, but I wonder how it would work as a coordination tool between registered programmers working together on a project if all of the souce code were actually wikified. If there were enough changes made for syntax checking and automatic hyperlinking of function calls and variable references, it might make for a useful collaborative IDE, since the version control is already present.

    2. Re:Collaborative Documentation by tonsofpcs · · Score: 1

      I remember reading about a project trying to make a wiki implementation to do just that, but they seem to have since disappeared (probably was a pain to grab the needed source to compile)

  4. CVS, anyone? by Ian_Bailey · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What you should be asking yourself, is what can CVS/Subversion be used for?

    Modern wiki software is really just a subset of what any good repository offers (versioning, resolving conflicts, moving files around, etc.). The only difference is that they provide a nice LaTeX-like syntax and a pretty front-end with an on-the-fly interpreted syntax.

    Really, LaTeX backed by CVS would give you many of the same features. The possiblities of a repository-backed work are virtually endless!

    However, the front-end on Wikis make them extremely nice for collaboration on numerous distinct text-based documents. The inter-linking and (relatively) simple syntax allow users to focus on sharing their knowledge. I think the next step for Wikis would be WYSIWYG editing, to de-emphasize any kind of syntax at all. This would make them truely user-focused.

    1. Re:CVS, anyone? by elmegil · · Score: 2, Funny
      The only difference is that they provide a nice LaTeX-like syntax and a pretty front-end with an on-the-fly interpreted syntax.

      Oh well, if THAT's all....

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    2. Re:CVS, anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MoinMoin has a WYSIWYG mode.

      I use MoinMoin for a "personal wiki" to keep track of any little notes I want to keep. Its a lot more convenient than a bunch of text files.

    3. Re:CVS, anyone? by ecloud · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well LaTeX seems too arcane to most people. Maybe it's just a matter of paring down all the non-essential features, but I think there is more to it than that. The wiki idea started by saying hey, people already have certain habits, for plain-text email, Usenet, etc., to express *boldface*, _italics_, paragraph breaks, hrules etc. so let's just parse those forms, and then there will be no learning curve - at least for people who already have those habits. The degenerate case is that plain text, with no adornment other than double-carriage-returns between paragraphs, is wiki syntax. Of course then you add a few more features and there is a little bit of a learning curve, but not too bad. TeX on the other hand makes you feel constrained rather than free, with a lot of rules to learn and follow. At least, it's always trial and error for me.

      I try to maintain my resume in LaTeX but haven't been really happy with the existing converters to generate HTML. So my impression is that it's really too paper-oriented, and I'm not sure what you would need to do to make the transformation to HTML as direct, efficient and suitable as possible.

      Knuth I'm sure would say, web pages are so ugly - lousy default fonts, no kerning, no right-justification, and you can't even control where the page breaks fall when you print it. aye-ei-ei. :-) But those are features for browsers to add some day.

      I agree with you that version control was a very useful addition to wikis, and its importance (and ease of use) must not be underestimated.

    4. Re:CVS, anyone? by Cato · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's a bit like saying that Bugzilla is built on MySQL, and is really only a thin layer over it, so you might as well just use SQL directly to submit your bugs. For example, TWiki has a huge feature set, and over 100 plugins, including a LaTeX plugin if you want to use it for some content. See http://twiki.org/

    5. Re:CVS, anyone? by jgrahn · · Score: 1
      Well LaTeX seems too arcane to most people. ... The wiki idea started ... The degenerate case is that plain text, with no adornment other than double-carriage-returns between paragraphs, is wiki syntax.

      Yeah, but that text is also degenerate LaTeX source (except you need some boilerplate header and footer for LaTeX).

      Writing in LaTeX isn't always easy, but it's easier than just about anything else except the different wiki languages: HTML, XML-based languages, troff ...

      I try to maintain my resume in LaTeX but haven't been really happy with the existing converters to generate HTML. So my impression is that it's really too paper-oriented ...

      That on the other hand I can believe, and it certainly diminishes the usefulness of LaTeX.

    6. Re:CVS, anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mod up?

  5. Documentation by Yogger · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I work in IT installing software and other kinds of support. I've been trying to convince the boss to use this for documentation as a lot of our stuff changes without warning and we don't have anything to keep us up to date otherwise. But sadly have been unable to get him to see the light. Jst the usual right something up on it for me and then watch him forget about it.

    Lage corporations are great that way.

    1. Re:Documentation by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 1
      But sadly have been unable to get him to see the light. Jst the usual right something up on it for me and then watch him forget about it. Lage corporations are great that way.

      It's probably more that you IT director want to jump blindly head-long into something that will becoma an unsuportable monster.

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    2. Re:Documentation by rts008 · · Score: 1

      Good idea, you could also use it as a luser "tech support/FAQ" for the new employees. It seems to be (on the luser side) a powerful, but casual/forgiving "database". In respect to effectively providing a lot of diverse info, a wiki style setup seems only limited to the imagination. Used correctly, this can be a powerful tool for a whole slew of things.

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    3. Re:Documentation by cerberusss · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I've been trying to convince the boss to use this

      I never asked for advice. I just installed a wiki (which didn't need a database) in my account on a development box. Then maintained a quotes database, just for the fun of it. When other devs heard about it, it quickly gained speed and last thing I heard were the sysadmins. They had asked a manager and a teamleader if we could start using another wiki which came with Debian, so they could support it....

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    4. Re:Documentation by ksp · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Read Joel Spolsky's "Getting Things Done When You're Only a Grunt".

      If you start using it for yourself and incorporate stuff that your cow-orkers need, it will soon become an indispensible tool. If you really made the right choice to begin with, you will get the credit (sprinkle your name throughout the app and label yourself sysadmin, support etc so they remember who did it). If it sucks, they will hate you for turning it into the corporate standard.

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    5. Re:Documentation by The-Bus · · Score: 1

      Just set it up. Tell a few people about it and see if it gets going. What I've found is that you need a very highly dedicated group of people who add and change information. If these people aren't already doing it informally, then it is unlikely that this will happen with new free software.

      TWiki is incredibly easy to set-up and use. I would set it up and see what happens. If it doesn't develop, it wasn't mean to be.

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    6. Re:Documentation by woolio · · Score: 1

      Jst the usual right something up on it for me and then watch him forget about it.

      Perhaps if you WROTE something instead of RIGHT it, your boss would pay more attention to your proposal...

      On second thought, your boss probably remembers your writeups and being gramatically incomprehensible.

  6. TiddlyWiki by belroth · · Score: 4, Interesting

    TiddlyWiki (http://www.tiddlywiki.com/) is effectively a wiki in a single web page. It sounds odd but is very impressive, it can be used for free format note keeping with all the linking etc that a wiki implies. There are a number of enhancements on the web - various customizations including skins.
    It's obviously not for multi-user use but great for personal stuff.

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    1. Re:TiddlyWiki by shahruz · · Score: 1

      I've used tiddlywiki and tagglywiki for note taking / personal documentation at work with great success

  7. Development by Julian+Morrison · · Score: 1, Redundant

    The Trac project is rather nice, a wiki with svn and bug-tracking integration, for use in collaborate project management.

    1. Re:Development by porneL · · Score: 1

      From my experience Wiki syntax generally works well for webistes' CMS. Unlike JS-based WYSIWYG editors Wiki makes users think about text structure rather than just pretty colors and pictures.

  8. Database-like table tools, for overgrown pages. by Myself · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We use one over at the Toughbook wiki to keep track of details of various machines.

    I've been looking for a good table manipulation tool. Wiki tables like the HardwareComparison quickly grow out of control. A way to sort and filter records, show and hide columns, an define alternate views for tabular data, would be great.

    I picture sort of a webmail-like interface. Perhaps the data shouldn't live in the wiki page at all, but in a real database back-end with the appropriate interface(s) for adding and editing records.

    In some projects I work on, the bosses email a "tracker" spreadsheet back and forth, where each site has a row, and each stage or activity has a column. They sort and filter the spreadsheets to get a picture of progress. One challenge is getting the data in, since it comes from dozens of different field techs, shippers, other companies, and arbitrary other events. Another challenge is making sure everyone has the most updated version, since emailing a file around is effectively file-level locking, so no more than one person can be working at once.

    A central store like a database, with web interfaces that any Excel weenie could use, would alleviate much of the trouble. A hybrid of spreadsheet functions, database query tools, and wiki-like markup, could be really powerful. Anyone know if such a thing might exist, or if such projects might be in the works?

    1. Re:Database-like table tools, for overgrown pages. by npdoty · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think what you're looking for is JotSpot's new product Tracker which provides just the online, wiki spreadsheet compatibility that you describe, for exactly the problems (like constantly emailing a tracker spreadsheet around) you lament.

      JotSpot might be relevant to the discussion in general, as well. They do a lot of work with wikis. Are there any other web development companies out there doing stuff like this? I hope so, but I haven't run across any others yet.

      [I'm not an employee or anything; I just found out about these guys last night and it looks like they're doing cool stuff.]

  9. Movie scripts by jb.hl.com · · Score: 1

    I once had a (custom coded...I lost the code a while back though) Wiki which was supposed to house a movie script (just a small camcorder, sub YouTube quality type thing). Worked quite well, I think...

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  10. ITIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm in the process of creating a wiki for a test ITIL implementation. As far as I can tell, it will be great for the Configuration Management Database, and therefore the Change Management, Service Desk, etc. processes because they can log incidents against particular machines, and RSS feeds for the machines' wiki pages will alert the relevant sysadmin that there's an incident to look at.

    Anyways, it's kinda pie-in-the-sky for me at the moment, but I'm convinced it will work, and cost considerably less than the commercial ITIL tools that suck :)

  11. IT uses by Nik13 · · Score: 3, Informative

    We've used it sometimes for things like:

    -documentation on a project
    -knowledge base for various IT stuff
    -sharing various infos (guides, training stuff, etc)

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  12. Internal project tracking by RandomJoe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I set up TikiWiki for my department to track projects. We are a commercial HVAC firm (my dept is the automation side), so CVS and the like don't (at least I don't think!) really apply. But I do the engineering and layout, with others doing the actual installations and we needed a way to easily transfer information. They always have their laptops with them, and have VPN access to the office, so this idea came to mind.

    It has worked pretty well, and quite a few people in other departments have started using it too. It's a nice way to do "brain dumps" and record those things people tend to say in passing in the hall! I still have a few people that "forget" about it and call / barge into my office to ask a question. "Did you check the wiki?" standard response now!

  13. Some wiki uses by JoeCommodore · · Score: 4, Interesting
    At LinuxWorld I saw the Twiki demo and it got mymnd racing, a couple of these were from it.

    Agenda tool, (non-profit here, lots of meetings), you create an agenda wikipage for the next meeting, participants add or make changes to the topic list after the meeting the notetaker completes the page by ading in the outcomes and creates the next agenda page, not only do you have less paperwork you also have a building history that all can refer back to without hving to look up file names.

    Staff directory - (assuming you don't have like AD or LDAP), includes addresses emails, etc. Changes are made on the spot and therefore most up to date.

    Knowledgebase - either a replacment or an extension to the job procedure manuals, all staff can add into it and make changes as needed, as well as add content as special circumstances arise.

    Documentor - if the apps are web based you can even program wiki links into your pages to the documentation (as well as link in your job procedures if on the same wiki) As program changes or as better instructions/definitions the documntation gets updated.

    Project notes repository - self explanitory

    Simple CMS - Keep the editing behind a password/access system but offer up the content as read-only to the public, opens the sirte for editing beyond just the webmaster.

    I like the story board idea.

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    1. Re:Some wiki uses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At LinuxWorld I saw the Twiki demo and it got mymnd racing

      Yeah, I've got a similar problem with mysqld. It just keeps on wanting to access the hard drive, not good for a low power system. Any tips on how you stopped yours?

  14. University project by wknoxwalker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I am currently adminning (for that, read; owning space on the server) for a MediaWiki which is being used for documentation, discussion, planning and grading for a 4 man, 2nd year university project.

    We talk, argue, link and plan on the pages. Our tutor has access and leaves daily comments, along with his own arguments and links. When we have something to hand it, we just let him know which page it is.

    He can track who has done what, and how active we all have been, and since everything is dated, he can take a "view" of a document which might evolve, but for grading purposes has to be "handed in" on a certain date.

    It's useful, fun, and makes exchanging information easy.

  15. the D-word: documentation by tverbeek · · Score: 2, Informative

    When I was hired to be half of the tech-support department for my art school, I set up a wiki on my PowerMac as a place to put whatever documentation I generated. Anything I might otherwise scribble on a piece of paper, or what I would have put into a WP document back in the 1990s, I can instead key into a web page, and it's accessible and updatable from anywhere there's a net-connected computer, including at home (handy for reviewing and documenting today's accomplishments or previewing tomorrow's projects with a strong drink at hand). It hosts lists of software in each classroom, a table of permanently assigned IP addresses, an exhaustive list of tasks to accomplish between semesters, a checklist for how to lock down the Windows boxes, software serial numbers (did I mention that the whole site is password-protected?)... basically any info I - or my boss, or my future co-worker - might want access to, whether in the office or not.

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  16. University usages by be_kul · · Score: 1

    Wikis were in use at universities almost since the beginnings in 1995, especially at Georgia Tech, which uses e.g. Squeak/Smalltalk based Wikis (In fact, SWiki, the Squeak Wiki, seems to have been the first very popular Wiki software around). Swiki is used there for collaborative work among students groups, documentation, programming courses etc. Some other examples are find in Ward Cunninghams Book about Wikis. So, I would say, there are a lot more ways to use Wikis besides (Technical) Documentation or Knowledge Bases (I would Wikipedia somehow count as one, too). One other example is the organization of meetings like the Plone Sprints in the Zope community.

  17. Mystery Hunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Practically every team in the MIT Mystery Hunt used some sort of wiki to coordinate the team.

  18. Group Projects by Shazow · · Score: 1

    My fellow group members and I are using a Wiki to organize out project. This includes documenting each members' ideas, collaborating for report writing, and general discussion.

    Also, we're unofficially using it as a collaborative note-taking tool for class. Someone takes notes on their laptop during class, then posts them, and the other members go through them with corrections/additions.

    So far it's working out rather well.

    - shazow

  19. We use FlexWiki at Ask Jeeves by voxel · · Score: 1

    We use FlexWiki at Ask Jeeves, corporate wide. Anyone can go to http://wiki/ (inside the company), and go through all the information/projects etc going on.

    It's REALLY nice, I like it alot. Very easy to make a new page for a new projects and have peers add ideas to your page, etc.

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  20. Knowledge base and caveats by RomulusNR · · Score: 2, Insightful

    the first alternative that came to my mind was an intranet knowledge-base.

    Took you long enough. Anyway, the one thing lacking from Wikis in that area is group-page access control. TWiki is the only Wiki which claims to sort of have it, but also warns vigorously that it doesn't work securely.

    The main criticism of the company Wiki I set up is that there is not an easy way to control access to different groups. Management doesn't want, for example, Marketing to have access to edit (or maybe even view) Accounting's wiki material. I've had to set up a parallel MW instance with restricted access in order to lock down some material, but I don't want to have to do that for all possible Wiki-using groups.

    Unfortunately most Wikis are not developed with alternative uses in mind. MW development is notorious for not supporting or adding any feature not required by WP and its information-should-be-free philosophy. TWiki seems to specifically court that market, but they can't be that serious about it or they'd close the search hole.

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    1. Re:Knowledge base and caveats by Millenniumman · · Score: 1

      MediaWiki is open source, though, so if you knew how you could try to add features like that.

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    2. Re:Knowledge base and caveats by metallidrone · · Score: 1

      You're right, but what the grandparent describes really can't be hacked on easily. Authentication / authorization support must be designed into a system--there are many different aspects that need to hook into authorization services for them to be useful. Also, maintaining something that can implement company access policies (e.g., departmental politics) is a job in itself--especially if you're contradicting the goals the original software has ingrained into its design.

      Just adding the usual friendly reminder that security (which authorization is a part of) can't be tacked on, but must be designed in early on.

      Now when PHP et al gain aspect-oriented programming support, interesting possibilities may open themselves up in the "casual open-source/free-software hacking" front.

    3. Re:Knowledge base and caveats by Cato · · Score: 1

      Most people don't need read access security on their TWiki sites, or if they do are willing to set up another instance (which is quite easy particularly in the upcoming 4.0 release).

      Patches to add this feature (i.e. make search respect access controls) would be of interest to the development team (which I'm part of).

    4. Re:Knowledge base and caveats by pmichaud · · Score: 1
      PmWiki provides extensive support for group-based access controls to pages in the wiki.

      Pm

  21. Are there any free hosts running Wiki? by antdude · · Score: 1

    Are there free Web hosts that does Wiki? I would like to make an ants FAQ or something as a Wikipedia software.

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    1. Re:Are there any free hosts running Wiki? by vain+gloria · · Score: 1

      Try pbwiki. That's the site that Penny Arcade use for their ELotH:TES thing, not one of those fly-by-night wiki-hosts we hear so much about in the press these days :)

    2. Re:Are there any free hosts running Wiki? by antdude · · Score: 1

      Vain, thanks for the suggestion. I love it already -- http://ants.pbwiki.com/ ... :)

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  22. Live Lecture Notes; alternative to the whiteboard by Khopesh · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I have seen one use of a wiki in creating notes during a meeting, in place of using the whiteboard. While there isn't (yet) a usable interactive application for multiple parties to participate, it works wonderfully for a single computer that everybody watches.

    Basically, wiki is so fast that one can create a fully functional and cross-referenced web site on the fly, while carrying out a discussion on the topic. This could be used as a lecturing tool and/or as a note-taking system.

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  23. Creativity Enhancement by josefcub · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My creative collaboration partners and I use DidiWiki (a very small and stable Wiki server) to house the knowledgebase of our roleplaying universe, and to house stories and related tales that end up being written about it. Character sheets, timelines, synopses... Wiki does it all.

    I won't post a link to it here, naturally. ;)

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    1. Re:Creativity Enhancement by Theto · · Score: 1

      Yep, similar here.
      I use a wiki when dungeonmastering to keep track of everything and to have quick access to all important NPCs, etc.

  24. CMS and database by mlinksva · · Score: 1

    Wikis are being used increasingly as CMS-replacements, as they should, as working with a CMS is hugely unappealing. See the http://www.mono-project.com/ website for a reasonable beginning example. Another exciting use is as a simultaneous mostly free-form encyclopedia and structured knowledge base, database, or whatever. See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki.

  25. intranet wiki by Khopesh · · Score: 1
    > Working in an IT department, the first alternative that came to my mind was an intranet knowledge-base.

    I head an IT department. Our internal wiki is gold; half of the answers I give out are along the lines of either "have you rebooted?" or "take a look at the wiki."

    The development team and the sales team also use the wiki to a degree - it helps in collaboration and notes. Lots of people keep notes to themselves that would actually be quite useful to others in their department or even the whole company. Putting those notes on the wiki, even if poorly organized (which is definately the case), is a good step in the right direction, as things get cross-referenced eventually, and other things are searchable.

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  26. Photo/video gallery by Khopesh · · Score: 1
    This is something I've wanted for a while and wiki technology is not quite there ... why use flikr or some similar service when you could use a wiki? The ability to comment on pictures makes them searchable; this is just like what google is doing with closed-captioning on videos (and what they've done with images.google.com).

    Mediawiki (of wikipedia fame) lacks in two places when it comes to image galleries: First, there is no pager (i.e. first, previous, next, last, index). Second, uploading updates to images is not trivial and the automated resizing is a bit clunky. When you update images, you completely replace them. There has to be some less primative way to do this, even if it is as simple as an image-diff program and more intelligent sizing.

    Also note that this concept is not limited to images; again look at google's video beta - you see indexed videos based on surrounding text, with automaticly generated stills from regular intervals of each video. This can easily be implemented in a wiki.

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  27. Sensei's Library by Hikaru79 · · Score: 1

    Sensei's Library is one of the most creative uses of a Wiki I've seen. It's all focused around the game of Go (Wei'qi, Baduk). The owner modified it, added some scripts, that allow for easy creation of board diagrams, etc. And, most importantly, it's got a strong, knowledgeable community. Overall, it's one of the best resources for Go players. As far as Wiki's go, it does its job fantastically well.

  28. Congress needs a Wiki for Legislation! by Salis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    First, let's pretend that U.S Congressman carefully debate the pros and cons of proposed legislation.

    Then, I think that Wikis would make a wonderful forum for developing legislation. Especially those 400+ page variety bills that seem to contain all sorts of pork. Of course, modification of a Wiki page would be restricted to Congressman and their aids (hopefully not lobbyists..). State and local legislative wikis might also be useful.

    Hyperlinking between chapters/portions of bills might make reading the bill easier and focus attention on poorly written parts.

    Of course, for a Wiki to be useful, the debate has to be in the open and not in the proverbial "smoking room". O well!

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    1. Re: Congress needs a Wiki for Legislation! by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2, Funny

      > Then, I think that Wikis would make a wonderful forum for developing legislation. Especially those 400+ page variety bills that seem to contain all sorts of pork.

      Yeah, they could make life easy for the legislators by providing templates such as -

      {{pork|money for my district}}

      {{drillANWR}} (for Ted Stevens personal use)

      etc.

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  29. My sucess story by adamhupp · · Score: 1

    I introduced a wiki (MoinMoin) at my company about a year ago. My inspiration was a comment somewhere about how if you show people how much better a wiki is people will naturally use it.

    With this in mind I started using it as a personal notepad. After a while, when someone asked a non-trivial question I would document it on the wiki and direct them to it.

    Over time people started using it on their own and now it is a normal part of many people's workflow.

    -Adam

  30. Wikis for Documentation by krakrjak · · Score: 1

    At my work we just started using a wiki for documentation and procedures. It really has changed things for us quite a bit. We are moving over to it incrementally and everyone gets to be part of the process due to the nature of wikis. We are using mediawiki and eventually someone will add moderation features, but until then it's really great for this.

    I'd suggest if you are in a position to get a mock up running on your intranet it is definately worth trying out. So far people are enthused about it. It took a while to get everyone involved, but now that they are it is kind of snowballing and just getting better every day. YMMV

  31. More exotic (but simple) idea.... by Dual_View · · Score: 1

    Had anyone considered the possibility of using an offline wiki for simple content creation? (It's an idea I had several years ago, but kept to myself.) I am not an expert, but I bet that wiki software could be modified to run as a self-contained desktop application, and it might be made robust enough to serve as an alternative to an office suite.

    Imagine a piece of hypothetical software called WikiOffice for a moment. Users can create files similar to those made with word processors, spreadsheets, slide presentations, help archives, etc., and other types of media could be imported and put to use with plugins. (I bet it could even support applications and "applets" using an internal scripting language.) WikiOffice would use a single file format capable of all such things, and the files themselves would essentially be miniature wiki databases. (For actual editing, the user might choose either to use a WYSIWIG interface or write the markup himself.) Individual pages (or sets of pages) could even be exported to other formats, or the entire file could even be split into two or more independent database files.

    Also, if a user wants to distribute a file that can't be modified in certain ways, he can freeze some or all of the pages with a password, or assign group permissions the way an admin for a multi-user application or operating system commonly does. Concievably, copies of the file that have even been modified in different ways can be somewhat merged back into each other by an admin, much like many CMS systems can do.

    (Of course, as surely as I post this, another Slashdotter is likely to point out something that already does most or all of this.)

    1. Re:More exotic (but simple) idea.... by afd8856 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There is Zim, Newton, WikiPad and my favorite, Tomboy.
      I can honestly say that Tomboy changed the way I work. And it's just a very simple note taking with wiki linking feature that runs in the sys tray and opens all pages inside a new window on your desktop.

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  32. Home paging made simple by KlaymenDK · · Score: 1

    My family uses a wiki to run our family home page (g-b.dk). It took a little extra to set up, and it does put some restraints on what we can do, but it makes editing and updating a breeze for any family member.

  33. Writing aid by WWWWolf · · Score: 1

    I'm using a wiki (SnipSnap) as a writing aid when working on fantasy stories. Great for writing stuff like character backgrounds or history material for my own reference.

  34. Intranet and help system by dizzy+tunez · · Score: 1

    At work we use TWiki for our intranet, and as a help system for the application we develop. Works perfectly!

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  35. Dating and Social Networking by cwolfsheep · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've seen several different Wikis go down the documentation route, and I'm a member of a few.

    A few months back I started up a Wiki to tie in people that use different dating and social networking sites. I also use it to quickly bookmark items I want to share with others, or have them do so likewise: the idea is not so much to be a "dating" site vs. a means of creating a social web.

    http://www.wikidating.net

    Unfortunately, the most activity I get currently, are the spambots. (history -> save -> comment "restore"): you know that routine.

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  36. ZOPE has some of this by oo_waratah · · Score: 1

    I saw a demo of ZOPE and it allows this sort of collaboration and control. It is not as easy as a wiki but it does have what you need. Might be worth a look.

    1. Re:ZOPE has some of this by dschl · · Score: 1

      For Zope, try Zwiki. With Zwiki under Plone (which runs under Zope; it is like an onion),which will take care of access control, at an overhead cost, though. I haven't played with it much in a year or so, and I cannot recall how fine grained the access controls are (I think it is wiki-level, not page-level access). For page level / group access, you would probably need multiple wikis, although you'd need to check the docs for certain. You can always just use a Plone site instead of a wiki (Plone offers full WYSIWYG editing, access control, tracking of revisions, rollback, etc). Zwiki - Access Control and membership. Plone also has some docs on zwiki, link to a plone/zwiki demo.

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  37. May the ... by hritcu · · Score: 1

    ... Wiki be with you!

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  38. As a personal notetaker by MrFenty · · Score: 1
    I've used Wikis recently as a personal notetaker, to jot down things that otherwise I'd forget. Especially at work, setting up a local webserver/installing software is a pain, so I don't need a web based Wiki, and indeed I don't need the collaborative features, just the ability to link topics very easily and write easily.

    The one I currently use is WikiPad a Windows-only app which doesn't use/need a webserver. It just allows me to add free form notes very quickly without structure, but automagically adds Wiki style links when I use CamelCase words in the text. Very lightweight. The only thing I miss about it is the ability to add Wysiwyg style formatting, it's all Courier fixed font stuff. But it's saved me loads of time not having to scribble things down on my paper pad.

    I've also used Perspective, a proper Windows based Wysiwyg Wiki, but again installing on a work box can be a pain, so I ususally come back to WikiPad.

  39. Anonymous Gift Giving by mikey573 · · Score: 1

    I made an anonymous gift giving wiki (very much like Secret Santa, but better) among my friends. See: http://www.toastedalmonds.org/secretsanta Makes cheating very hard to do (except for the main administrator). Its a challenging setup in terms of access-control lists. This is the second year in a row I've used this system, and it works very well. People can be cheap or as generous as they please.

  40. Setting up by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 1

    a computer based education?

  41. Wikis becoming more mainstream by IWasNotMe · · Score: 1

    Business Week recently did an article on alternatives to e-mail, which discussed wikis. The point of the article is that wikis are increasinly being used to replace e-mail as a collaboration tool (IM is also discussed). Anyone who as ever sent around an e-mail requesting comments from multiple people understands that technique's limitations. Nothing really new in the article, but it does indicate more mainstream adoption. It also gives some examples of companies who are using the technology (and how).

  42. Living Help Document by vtechpilot · · Score: 1

    Maybe a little late to post to this thread, but hell, why not? One of the things that I use my Wiki for is a living Help file. When a user selects help in our application, it takes them directly to a page in the wiki, that is relevant to what is on their screen right then and there. This makes it easy to keep the help information up to date, since we don't have to distribute it, and it puts discussion of problems adjacent to the help instructions themselves. Its especially usefull when the wiki has some kind of discussion or comments feature enabled.

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  43. Television Production Collaboration by gmailflows · · Score: 1

    I setup a wiki (mediawiki) for the TV Program, 3D: Dialogue, that I host on OMNI TV. The producers use the wiki to store info on guests, topics, shows, research, overviews, factoids, and the script. It makes it a lot easier for the shows to be produced and have all the necessary info available to the people who need it. The G4Tech TV show http://www.g4techtv.ca/callforhelp/>Call for Help in the same studio as my show, and they also use a wiki to produce their show.

  44. Database Dictionaries by msobkow · · Score: 1

    I'd been thinking that a wiki might be more useful than JavaDoc for providing the business analysts with a view of an implementation model. They just need to know what attributes are available and where to find them, not the implementation details. Maybe provide links to the corresponding JavaDoc details.

    If you had a way to share filtered content between wikis, you could create a few aspects and let a user set a preferred default aspect. Other aspects would be available as cross-links between the wikis. For example, you could have a wiki indexing the source directory and object hierarchy for developers. Another aspect wiki would focus on business attributes for the BAs. Realistically you could have a wiki aspect for any development/business role your infrastructure requires.

    Wiki portals are obvious as well. Being able to pull together key info people need to do their jobs is the main purpose of intranet portals.

    Search engines already crawl wiki content, so you don't need anything special to search across the wikis, but you might want a customized intranet search engine that lets you select aspect/subject wikis to be searched.

    Instead of intranet based, you could do the same thing with/for a web-distributed development team.

    A lot of content is better kept in forums, though. Wikis are tag-definition based searches, and forums let you group subject content without requiring a subject identifier.

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    1. Re:Database Dictionaries by msobkow · · Score: 1

      You know, if you then treat wiki edits as change requests to be reviewed and prioritized (i.e. moderated), you'd have a rather useful tool for communications between business requirements, implementation, deployment, and support teams.

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    2. Re:Database Dictionaries by cratermoon · · Score: 1
      if you then treat wiki edits as change requests to be reviewed and prioritized (i.e. moderated), you'd have a rather useful tool for communications between business requirements, implementation, deployment, and support teams.
      You'd be talking about Fit: Framework for Integrated Testing.
  45. Games! by Peganthyrus · · Score: 1

    You could set one up for the purpose of having a game of Lexicon! A good example is The Toothpaste Disaster, set in the 'Paranoia' RPG.

    Similarly, some friends and I used a wiki as an adjunct to a far-future MUCK: character bios and area reference got dumped into the wiki, to help us remember what the hell was going on in our real-time text roleplay as things got more and more complex.

    I think I've also seen people using wikis as multi-author choose-your-own-adventure platforms; pretty easy to make that work.

    My room-mates and I experimented with a wiki for our house, but that didn't go anywhere.

    I've heard of some people using a wiki running on their own machine as a sort of free-form personal information manager. A little bit more complex than the 'live in one giant text file' ethic some practice, but almost as portable and future-proof.

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  46. Wikalong - Collaborative Annotation by phUnBalanced · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I just released a new version of Wikalong that is compatible with Firefox 1.5 last night.

    Wikalong is a Firefox Extension that embeds a wiki in the Side Bar of your browser, indexed off the url of your current page. It is probably most simply described as a wiki-margin for the internet.

    Wikalong
    1. Re:Wikalong - Collaborative Annotation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mod up this post?

    2. Re:Wikalong - Collaborative Annotation by BigCheese · · Score: 1

      I just installed it and gave it a quick test drive. Looks pretty spiffy to me.

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  47. May the ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... Karma be aganist you!

  48. Best Buy Corp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Best Buy Corp uses Wiki for intranet use all the time. company policy., history and new ideas are all communicated via the wiki.

  49. Fiction Notes by Dunx · · Score: 1

    I use a wiki for notes on stories I am writing - not so much for storyboarding, but certainly for keeping character notes, locations, artifacts, etc. This is particularly useful for epic fiction where you have a lot of character names to keep straight.

    I use Kwiki and create a new instance for each substantial piece.

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  50. Intranet by Richard+W.M.+Jones · · Score: 1
    We use a wiki as our intranet, storing information about all the companies, competitors and people that we come across and how they relate to each other. Also we have page(s) for each project we're working on, and a central "tasks" page which lets everyone know what they're (supposed to be) doing.

    Rich.

  51. Wiki Uses by dew · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So a brief caveat here - I'm a bit biased as to the potential uses for wikis, since I started and run PBwiki (which was developed at an all-night hackathon, but that's another story). If you're interested, I also gave a talk at Xerox PARC about wikis.

    I think pretty much any time you email out a Word document and ask several people for changes or edits, you're in need of a wiki. Any time there's a "Document Master" for a particular piece of information a la "Oh, Linda's in charge of the phone list, you should let her know you have a new number" or "Tell Jimmy what you're bringing to the potluck" or "Coach Z has the schedule for the softball season" -- those are ideal spots for wikis.

    While many people do use wikis personally, as a sort of notepad-on-steroids, and others use wikis as a simple web page publication tool, the killer app for wikis is in letting groups speak as one and create their own little universes of knowledge. Sometimes this means collaborative fiction or Dungeons and Dragons and sometimes this means documenting your project plans or brainstorming your next company idea.

    While wikis have been around for some time, they're only just now starting to cross the chasm from geekland to the leading edge of regular people. Wikipedia can take nearly all of the credit for that. But hopefully we'll now get some of the power that geeks have had by way of CVS and Subversion and put it in the hands of regular people to collaborate and coordinate their thoughts, hopes, and ideas. This has been a long time coming.

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  52. Knowledge sharing and training by neilherber · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I presented a paper in July 2005 titled "Using Wikis as a Low-Cost Knowledge Sharing Tool". The authors describe their experiences using a wiki to prepare and upgrade task-based training courses. The wiki was used both as a repository for the training materials as well as a daily communication vehicle for multiple co-authors working in Canada and Austria. If you are interested in reading the abstract or the paper, it is available on a wiki that has anti-robot password protection. Start on this page to get the password: http://saturn.eton.ca/

  53. Check out Semantic Wikis by Rich_Morin · · Score: 1
    There's a lot of interesting work going on in Semantic Wikis. Most of these work by adding a "type" tag to a wiki link. By using the current page, target page, and type as the subject, object, and predicate, they can form an RDF triple. Other efforts go off in the direction of more formal ontology editing, etc.

    The Semantic Wiki page on Wikipedia is a good starting point. I have also written my own overview, including an annotated list of known efforts. Finally, the Semantic Wiki Interest Group is the best place to go to get involved or watch for new developments.

    I am particularly interested in the possibility of augmenting wikis with mechanically-derived content. For example, there could be a Doxygen-style wiki page for each function and data structure in a system. Users could create new pages and/or annotate mechanically-generated pages. I am working on a specification for a wiki that could support such a system, but it's still quite speculative.

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    1. Re:Check out Semantic Wikis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      See also the use of wikis as interfaces for literate-style development. Especially http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/FrontPage

  54. TikiWiki by gmuslera · · Score: 1
    Ok, a bit im cheating here. TikiWiki is far more than just a "wiki" as it have blogs, articles, image/file galleries, trackers, and a LOT more. But for me the "center" of the features is the wiki itself, enhanced with a very flexible permission system and a lot of extensions that make it more useful and helps integrating it with the rest of the features.

    Having a good permission system enables systems where you can decide how people interacts with the system (i.e. adding or viewing content) and where. The extensions enables i.e. drawings editing in a wiki-like scheme and its integration enables i.e. putting portions of blogs in wiki pages or including editables spreadsheets in.

    My biggest use of it was for documentation, mixing blogs for tracking progress of projects, adding editable diagrams of networks, organizing and grouping the information in wiki pages and giving different kinds of priviledges to the development people (editors) from different kinds of viewers. But a lot of people gives a lot of different kinds of uses for it i.e. KDE project or voip-info.org.

  55. Wikipedia is not a good example by Alistair+Hutton · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In my opinion Wikipedia isn't a good example of what a wiki is capable of. The original wiki at c2.com is far better. Wiki's allow discussion to happen right in the middle of an article, the fact that something is being disputed or queried is in your face in the article. Wikipedia's dicussion page is badwrong as it kills one of the strengths of a wiki.

    Wiki pages should turn from discussions to information and then after time back to discussion and so on in a slow cycle. Wikipedia always wants the pages to be information which simply cuts against thegrain of what a wiki can and should do.

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    1. Re:Wikipedia is not a good example by jswanson · · Score: 1
      UGGH. NO. This must be a matter of preference, because I find much of the c2 site to be cluttered and chaotic. I would much rather see the consensus over time on a given topic, then every single thread and comment. As others have stated here, we use the wiki for department level, internal documentation. Very rarely do we see the need to post feedback with username and topic in a threadlike manner. We just change the content and move on. The c2 site sums up the different emphasis of c2 like this:
      Most of all, this is a forum where people share ideas! It changes as people come and go. If you are looking for a dedicated reference site, try WikiPedia.
  56. Wikimedia to Exhibit at SCALE 4x by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wikimedia will have a booth on the SCALE 4x exhibit hall floor. SCALE 4x is the 2006 Southern California Linux Expo. It will take place on Feb 10-12 at the Los Angeles Airport Radisson.

  57. Documentation, and collaborative editing by Degrees · · Score: 1
    I implemented MediaWiki as a part of an internal documentation project. As a collection of documentation, it is terrific. Any user anywhere has access, and can update the document. There is nothing quite like being in a wiring closet and adding notes and photographs to the page describing what should and should not be in that wiring closet.

    In my project, the biggest impediment to wide-scale adoption was the inconvenience of logging in all the time. Due to the sensitive nature of the information in the wiki, we had to secure it against anonymous browsing*. This means yet-another-login-name-and-password - which is of course the death of ease-of-use.

    What I wouldn't have given for a decent single-sign-on solution for MediaWiki + eDirectory (that doesn't incur additional dollar cost to our client).

    Anyway, the collaborative editing function of the wiki was handy enough, that management asked for another wiki, just for management people, for the task of contract review. The biggest hurdle here is the import-export of the wikitext <--> MS Word.



    *Documentation is only as good as it accurately reflects reality - so our documentation includes our warts. Our contract is up for bid, and anonymous browsing would expose those warts to the very company that is bidding against us. No, we didn't feel like handing ammunition to our enemy. If I had to do it over again, I probably would have learned and implemented a different system, that has a granular permissions system.

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  58. Apparently, they're great for open source projects by soren42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wiki technology must be great for open source project pages, or at least Novell thinks so... As best I can count, they have eight (or more) projects set up that either they manage, contribute to, or support using MediaWiki.

    These are:
    Mind you, these are all great sites, with good content. They seem to really be embracing the notion of community-driven projects, to the point of not only accepting community code, but also accepting additional community support though the use of Wiki for the websites and documentation. Take a browse through these sites, if you have time - they are full of great ideas on how to use a wiki.

    Kudos to Novell for once again being innovative in open source. Give me even more hope for their future and for the success of SUSE Linux.
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  59. A Simple Content Management System by Betabug · · Score: 1

    Set up a wiki, set the privileges so that only the site's owners can edit and add pages and presto... the simplest Content Management System. Works really well for small companies where you train one or two persons to be in charge of the site.

    Use something like ZWiki that has a big application server behind it, so you can integrate other tools (shop, blogs, forum) and let the site grow as needed.

  60. Confluence supports page level control & group by rmerrill11 · · Score: 1
    "the first alternative that came to my mind was an intranet knowledge-base."

    "Took you long enough. Anyway, the one thing lacking from Wikis in that area is group-page access control. TWiki is the only Wiki which claims to sort of have it, but also warns vigorously that it doesn't work securely."

    Actually, the Confluence wiki says it has page level access control tied to groups and individuals.

    We are currently evaluating it for use for our Intranet system. Confluence is not open source, but features like these might make it worth paying for.

    I am curious if anyone has any experience with the Confluence wiki?

  61. Advice for selecting a wiki engine by szumo · · Score: 1

    I need some advice for selecting a wiki engine.

    These are the features i need:
      - runs as CGI in hosted enviromnent (so doesn't require root access, RCS, etc.)
      - user authentication - HTTP Basic Auth.
      - ability to make some pages invisible to some users
      - ability to make some pages read only to some users
      - simple markup
      - file uploads, image embedding
      - utf8 support

    These are features that would be nice to have but i could do without them:
      - email page change notification
      - easy backups (accesible from web)
      - i18n-ed interface

    Any recommendations?

  62. There's fun to be had with wikis.. by TsukiKage · · Score: 1

    Plug in a yacc-style parse tree generator, and users can write things like this or this..

  63. Screenwriting by cniemira · · Score: 1

    I use my MediaWiki installation as screenwriting software. Maybe not as full featured as something like FinalDraft, but it's free, has built-in version control, and allows collaboration.

  64. No, Congress needs SCM for the US Code! by Valdrax · · Score: 1

    Then, I think that Wikis would make a wonderful forum for developing legislation.

    It's a nice idea until someone sneaks in an amendment that would never pass on the floor.

    Personally, my dream application for legislation is legislative diffs and versioning for the US Code. Have you ever tried to read a piece of legislation like the Patriot Act which is over 90% changes of words and phrases here and there throughout the US Code? (Add bioweapons & chemical weapons to this law about nuclear weapons, etc.) I only got about 15-20% of the way through the bill before giving up because I got tired of going back and forth to the US Code.

    I want the ability to click on a section of a law and see what it does to the rest of the US Code in context with all other surrounding changes. You'd see the original text and the new text with modifications in a different color. Much like most GUI SCM tools, you'd be able to click arrows to go to the next diff.

    This functionality would also be great for amendments to bills so that you could see the changes cascade through the bill into the relevant laws. I (and I'm sure a great many lawyers) would seriously pay thousands of dollars for an application which could read in a bill, identify modifications to the US Code, and intelligently mark up changes without human intervention and manual tagging. This would be a killer app for any Congressman, lobbyist, watchdog group, or lawyer.

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    1. Re:No, Congress needs SCM for the US Code! by Salis · · Score: 1

      I agree that a SCM/Wiki would the ultimate killer app for all sorts of legislative areas. Maybe include contracts and other business agreements in there as well. The Wiki would provide the debate/discussion utility while the SCM handles revisioning/etc and linking.

      It's a nice idea until someone sneaks in an amendment that would never pass on the floor.

      Unfortunately, I think this frequently happens already. It's the legislation by obscurity trick...stick a small bit of language into a 700+ page, $1b+ appropriation law and it's rare that someone will notice it or try to line item veto it. And it's especially rare that a huge bill is not passed because of a small bit of language (usually containing pork).

      Now, if every individual subsection had its own link and "discussion" section, then maybe people can draw attention to the porks parts that no one previously noticed. And if all of the pork parts are removed from the bill, then we can be talking about some serious reductions in spending. But, and let's remember this, it is in Congress's interest to keep the pork under wraps so any mechanism that provides more debate or more transparency will be fought against. However, if pork-fighters successfully paint the pork-entrenced Congressmen as self-serving, gluttonous, and deceitful...well they might favor transparency over not being reelected.

      And, another thing...most legislators are much older than the 'Internet generation'. How many of them know what source revisioning is? Maybe some of them know what a Wiki is. Any killer app needs to be extremely user-friendly. Our legislative branch didn't get elected because they were the smartest of the bunch ....

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  65. Wiki for Man Pages by sasha328 · · Score: 1

    A great use for wiki technology is to maintain Man Pages updated. Most of us know that some man pages are spartan at best, and few get updated regularly.
    The Waikato Linux Group have published most of the linux man pages on their wiki site. This way anyone can edit/modufy/update these manpages.
    Great idea.

  66. COMment by iecompat · · Score: 1

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  67. Glorified fridge notes by gravyface · · Score: 1

    I used to send myself emails to my home address while I was at work, and to my work address when at home, for when I needed to send myself reminders, links, etc. Now, I just edit my wiki setup on Apache at home and jot stuff down. I even added a grocery list, xmas gift list (that my family was free to edit), and even phone numbers/contact info. At work, we use one for adhoc development documentation -- we found that "official" documentation intimidated the developers (who're notorious for not writing stuff down) into thinking that everything had to be grammatically-correct, properly categorized, and using the corporate letterhead before they'd right anything down. Our instructions could be summed up as "right it down, we don't care what it looks like, you or your peers can fix it later". So far, its working very well.

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  68. Wikibooks by phorm · · Score: 1

    Really, a wiki could be useful in many a collaborative project, it's all about making a multisource fount of information.

    As for an example, WikiBooks (generally howto or technical in nature) are a great idea, and I could see the creation of "story worlds" for actual novel-style books being a possible wherein authors developed individual characters, stories, or parts of a greater world.

  69. Conference scheduling by AMK · · Score: 1

    For PyCon 2006, we have a wiki page containing the master schedule data, and a parsing script to generate an HTML or pickled version of the schedule.