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EA Fires 5% of Its Staff

JorgeDeLaCancha writes "On the heels of the dispute between EA and Ubisoft, EA has recently announced the decision to fire five percent of their workforce, approximately 350 people. EA's recent announcement has nothing to do with game sales, but rather 'It's more reconciling the costs of learning new systems with what the needs of the new systems are.'"

49 comments

  1. Great, More OT by Daengbo · · Score: 1, Troll

    So the guys who are already working like 100 hour weeks will have to do 105 now?

    1. Re:Great, More OT by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      No, they're just throwing out those fresh-out-of-college guys that didn't get enough done.

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    2. Re:Great, More OT by zephc · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, they fired the slackers who only do 80 hour work weeks.

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    3. Re:Great, More OT by BigCheese · · Score: 1

      I think it goes like this:

      We have layoffs, our stock goes up, management makes money, grunts work harder.

      I think that covers it.

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    4. Re:Great, More OT by mad.frog · · Score: 1

      Don't laugh. When I was at EA, a co-worker was fired after putting in a mere 70 hours one week.

    5. Re:Great, More OT by oncebitter · · Score: 1

      So long as engineers let themselves be treated like crap, they will continue to be treated like crap. Pissed off at EA's 100 hour work week? Quit and work somewhere that respects you. The problem is there are 200 more engineers so obsessed with working in the gaming industry they'll have no problem replacing you.

  2. Heh. by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 1, Troll

    Good thing they're not as evil as that "Ubisoft" company.

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    1. Re:Heh. by Harlockjds · · Score: 1

      Actually it is a good thing. Since they don't have their workers signed to a non compete clause they are free to work for another game company. Depending on how the clauses are worded at Ubisoft they would be fired but still unable to work for a competitor (or possibly even do their own game development) for a certain period of time.

    2. Re:Heh. by Phisbut · · Score: 4, Informative
      Actually it is a good thing. Since they don't have their workers signed to a non compete clause they are free to work for another game company. Depending on how the clauses are worded at Ubisoft they would be fired but still unable to work for a competitor (or possibly even do their own game development) for a certain period of time.

      Former Ubisoft-Montreal employee here. Their non-compete clause is only enforceable if you quit, not if they fire you or lay you off or however you call it. It's to prevent developers from willfully going to the competitor.

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    3. Re:Heh. by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Of course employees should never have the freedom to choose where they will work, that is for their corporate masters decide. Where you will work, how much you will get paid, an abridged right to free speach (only as approved by corporate PR), all your ideas are theirs (before and after employment), independent after hours work (if you have any energy left it should be donated to your corporate masters) and finally the only right the corporations give to their employess - the right to get "layed off" after the corporation has burnt every bit of value out of you they can.

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    4. Re:Heh. by heinousjay · · Score: 1

      What's the solution?

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  3. Wow by ZakuSage · · Score: 2, Funny

    They have a lot of employees... no wonder they're able to churn out so many [re-]releases every year!

    1. Re:Wow by vafada · · Score: 1

      350 = 5%
      700 = 10%
      7000 = 100%

      7000 employees!!!

    2. Re:Wow by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 1

      7000 employees!!!

      Not anymore. Heh.

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  4. Re:EA by voice_of_all_reason · · Score: 3, Funny

    How do you really know this is a troll?

    I mean, honestly. Isn't it at all possible that the heads of EA actually do wait 'till the end of the day, close the door to the executive boardroom, and let the goats loose and go to town?

    I suggest (Score: 1, Implausible)

  5. atleast they got treated semi-well when laid off.. by tont0r · · Score: 5, Informative

    My friend was one of the people who was cut. He was given a nice severance package. He gets paid like normal until April. When April hits, he gets 1 months pay and gets to cash his vacation hours in. Also during the time between now and April, he still gets more vacation time.

    However, they said he would have to come back the next day to get his stuff from his cube. He wasnt allowed to get it that day. Also, the second he was let go, all his access to the building was removed. I suppose that is just a precaution if the employee goes nuts though. :P

  6. Not fired... by lightspawn · · Score: 3, Informative

    EA lays off 5% of its staff. Big difference.

    1. Re:Not fired... by Grimrod · · Score: 1

      Do they have a chance of being rehired? Is there not enough work for them so that they had to be let go? If not, these people were fired. Laid off implies some hope of return.

    2. Re:Not fired... by Yakko · · Score: 1

      The way I see it, "fired" and "laid off" are equivalent. They were involuntarily terminated for whatever reason the employer made up, and I'm sure the two terms are treated equally when future work is sought.

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    3. Re:Not fired... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In over five years of working in the games biz, I've only heard stories about a tiny handful of people ever actually getting fired. Nobody I know has ever been fired. Most terminations come when the bulk of a development team is laid off once a game is cancelled or published. Many more come from studios closing up shop. Much of this business is people joining startup stuidos and those startups either being bought by publishers or folding. With the publishers, undesirables are the first picks for when "protect the bottom line"-type layoffs happen, because it's much easier and better for everyone involved to terminate someone's employment by layoff rather than by firing with cause.

    4. Re:Not fired... by Drachemorder · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I'm sure the two terms are treated equally when future work is sought.

      Why do you think that? If someone is "laid off" it implies that there's something wrong with the company. If he's "fired" it implies there's something wrong with the employee. Companies fire people because they're bad employees; they lay them off for business reasons that often don't have anything at all to do with whether or not the employee is good at his job.

      If I were a manager looking to hire someone, if I knew he'd been laid off I wouldn't hold that against him, but if I knew he'd been fired I would be very curious as to the reason.

    5. Re:Not fired... by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Just off the top of my head I can think of 3 ex-EA employees that were fired for lack of suitable job performance. 2 were artists and one was a developer.

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  7. Re:EA by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

    How do you know the poster of that didn't go off to live under a bridge and bash some heads in with a huge club after posting that?

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  8. crack that whip... by holySherm · · Score: 0, Redundant

    whip it good!


    /couldn't resist

  9. Re:EA by FooGoo · · Score: 1

    As the former executive in charge of goat hearding I cannot comment due to the NDA I signed when I was layed off.

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  10. Re:EA by voice_of_all_reason · · Score: 1

    Because, everyone knows the only person that lives under the bridge is the hobo who gives you the 4th bottle.

    //need Zora's flippers first, though...

  11. Quality of games by OverDrive33 · · Score: 1

    I'm glad that EA is making these cuts, I'm sure they're pretty strapped for cash, and this is the cause of their subpar titles.
    *phew* I'm relieved.

  12. Re:EA by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 2

    I mean, honestly. Isn't it at all possible that the heads of EA actually do wait 'till the end of the day, close the door to the executive boardroom, and let the goats loose and go to town?

    Not since Sarbanes-Oxley.

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  13. Re:atleast they got treated semi-well when laid of by Garnaralf · · Score: 1

    That is pretty good treatment. Salary for 3 months, then a 1 month bonus, then vacation pay, which is anywhere from 2-4 weeks. So approx. 5 months pay severance total. That's an excellent deal. Last time I was laid off, I got 2 paychecks and unused vacation time. And considering I had just come back from vacation two weeks before, wasn't much. And I was there 5 years. And it was a full half of the company that got laid off.

  14. Not true at all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The way I see it, "fired" and "laid off" are equivalent. They were involuntarily terminated for whatever reason the employer made up, and I'm sure the two terms are treated equally when future work is sought.

    Um, there is a reason why HR designates a class of "re-hires." Laid-off employees are always allowed to return to their former employer. It's more a matter of whether they ever want to come back, depending on how they were treated. You might be surprised how often employers decide to outsource their staff and realize later that it was a bad decision. Heck, my former employer has already realized that. Management changes; people change. I could easily make a lot more money going back to them. But do I want to?

  15. MY HEAD ASPLODE! by Kesch · · Score: 1

    'It's more reconciling the costs of learning new systems with what the needs of the new systems are.'

    I keep trying to read through this and understand what they are trying to say, but every time I do, my internal parser hits a run time error.

    Could a grammar nazi out there please change the syntax from PR Babble to English?

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    1. Re:MY HEAD ASPLODE! by HardCase · · Score: 2, Funny

      'It's more reconciling the costs of learning new systems with what the needs of the new systems are.'

      Could a grammar nazi out there please change the syntax from PR Babble to English?


      "You're fired."

    2. Re:MY HEAD ASPLODE! by arthurh3535 · · Score: 1

      We aren't paying to upgrade your programing skills, so you are no longer needed.

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  16. Of course it's sales by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Hello from inside EA. The submitter is wrong. Of course it is sales. Sales are down across the industry. Most companies are hurting. Looks bigger at EA because EA is bigger.

    Lost some friends, too. Sucks.

    1. Re:Of course it's sales by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe EA finally realized it doesn't take that many employees to edit a bitmap from "Madden '06" to "Madden '07" and then operate a DVD burner.

  17. Re:On the other hand by symbolic · · Score: 2

    It means that EA's CEO gets to keep his salary, bonuses and other perks intact.

  18. No, most interviewers appreciate the difference. by Richard+Steiner · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Fired" generally means that a person was terminated for some reason directly related to their work performance or some portion of their personal work-related activities, while "laid off" generally means that the termination was due to elements completely outside the person's control.

    Unemployment benefits are generally available to the latter group with very little question (the employer makes the situation known to the state), while the qualifying for such benefits depends on specific circumstances in the former group's case (folks who get fired often have to go through a formal hearing process to determine whether or not UI benefits apply in their situation).

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  19. My boyfriend was also part of that 5% by Hannah+E.+Davis · · Score: 4, Informative

    As one of the more junior guys on the Need for Speed team, it really wasn't surprising that my boyfriend was caught in this round of layoffs. However, I find it a bit ironic that they would lay anyone off on one of their most profitable teams -- Most Wanted was top of the charts in Britain during the Christmas season (beating out even FIFA) and pretty damn popular in Europe and North America. Cutting on the teams that were actually losing money/not making enough of a profit would've made more sense to me.

    He's not too choked up over it, though. I think he's more stressed than he's letting on, but he's been looking at the bright side: they're paying him quite well for the next few months to play the very game that caused their profits to drop *cough*WoW*cough* while he searches for a new and hopefully better job. Given that EA made him work 80+ hours per week last summer, including at least one occasion when he slept at the office on a Sunday night, this is probably a good time for him to find a job with more reasonable hours. Working every weekend for more than half the dev cycle of a game just ain't cool.

    1. Re:My boyfriend was also part of that 5% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't quite see how it would make more sense to keep an inexperienced junior person who happened to be put on a team that had a large market base, rather than keep an experienced senior person who was placed on a more risky title that didn't succeed.

    2. Re:My boyfriend was also part of that 5% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given that EA made him work 80+ hours per week last summer, including at least one occasion when he slept at the office on a Sunday night, this is probably a good time for him to find a job with more reasonable hours.

      Oh no! A salaried professional working incredibly long hours and occasionally even sleeping at the office?!

      Get a grip. This isn't unique to EA. This isn't even unique to the software business. Things like this happen. And you're right... if he doesn't enjoy that kind of work, this is a good chance to move on.

  20. Re:Not fired...Liberated Wage Slaves by wondafucka · · Score: 1

    They were liberated from the tyranny of working at EA.

  21. A huge sigh of relief by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... from those who were laid off. The day I quit EA was one of the best days of my life.

  22. Re:EA by Chosen+Reject · · Score: 1

    That might very well be the case. However, goats are not donkeys.

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  23. Re:atleast they got treated semi-well when laid of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    That's not how it's always been.

    When I was laid off by EA, all I got was two weeks plus vacation, and a month to exercise remaining stock options. And they didn't help me out with the losses incurred by selling my house too fast after buying it, even though I bought it on assurances from one of the bigwigs that the company was fine.

    I will never work in games again, let alone EA, except perhaps as a contractor via a third party. (I actually did that last year -- and not only was the client EA, but the project was one I'd worked on as their employee!)

  24. Lottery? by Jetson · · Score: 1

    From what you describe, the severance packages seem to vary quit a bit. Your friend gets regular pay for the next 2 months followed by vacation pay-out. One of my friends got 3 months salary in a single lump-sum payment that came with his pink slip, and will get a 4th month in lump sum if he agrees to sign a departure agreement. He was just a junior slave and hadn't been there very long, so it's not like he got a better deal by virtue of his position or tenure. Getting escorted from the building is apparently standard practise. My friend was taken back to his office the same morning and they watched him pack.

    Nobody seems to know how they selected the lucky 5%. It definitely wasn't seniority and probably wasn't job performance.

    What's really hilarious is that my friend had already accepted a position at another company and was writing his letter of resignation when they called him into the office to serve him his layoff notice. Timing is everything - he basically won the lottery this time around.

  25. Re:EA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you suggesting that every member of the executive board is a Freemason?