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LCD TopGun Hands On Review
Xbox Evolution writes "Lik Sang has done a hands on review of a lightgun that is compatible with Plasma, LCD, TFT & DLP. The review of the LCD TopGun which works with the PS2, Xbox and PC gives a good overview of the features and functionality."
Yes! Those old shooting games were the *best*! We need some new modern ones spiffed up with high-rez 3D laughing dogs and surround-sound quacks! I can't wait...
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Still no support for CRT. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.
Mother, do you think they'll like this sig?
Don't click. I've seen this URL before.
Probably not safe for work.
What the heck. This is just a big advertisement. They even have a "Buy now" button to the gun they are reviewing.
there really are no new ideas in this world, just the same ones, over and over and over again
This operates by the same idea that the Power Glove does, remember the big T you had to set up? You've got to calibrate it, and it was never accurate. Old light guns made the targets white and the gun would sense that reflectivity, you'd hold the gun right next to the screen and never miss.
Jack Thompson is going to have a field day with this one. I'm very much against what he's doing but that doesn't stop the guy from spinning this out of control.
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Don't light guns use intensity and not position to determine if you've hit the target or not? Why would they need to be "compatible" with a display device if all they depend on is intensity? Please someone educate me!
Hunters can use this to practice telling the difference between a human head and a semi-domesticated quail.
Bring back Duck Hunt, Vice-Presidential Edition.
Getting a light gun to finally work with all the different screen types is great. Unfortunately, the gun looks very close to a real Glock. There is a very good reason to make toy guns a bright obnoxous color, even if it kills the "I'm holding a real gun" buzz a bit. How long until some some little kid gets killed in a rough neighborhood by a cop who thought this thing was real?
Don't light guns use intensity and not position to determine if you've hit the target or not? Why would they need to be "compatible" with a display device if all they depend on is intensity?
Traditional light guns for CRTs since the Super Scope use submicrosecond timing of blue and green phosphor flicker, which when correlated with the timing of the horizontal and vertical blanking of the composite or luminance video signal gives position. Even older light guns that rely on intensity, such as the Zapper, might get confused by LCD's slower response and lack of flicker. This Wikipedia article should help you understand.
Monitor to the danger zone!!!!
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Too bad you needed pancreatic cancer to find out.
Thanks to the guys at Lik Sang for taking the time to do this review. It was very thorough and well written, with nice screenshots and good information about the gun. So much for the review.
Having said that, I think it's a waste to use a gun-type pointing device with any kind of display screen, unless the game is about shooting through a window from the middle of a room. To physically get into the spirit of a gunfight takes more than a pistol grip and a trigger. You really have to be in a larger play environment where threats can come from all over, such as VR goggles provide. I don't see how moving your arm side to side a few degrees to pick targets off a screen is any more exciting than using a mouse or a joystick.
I'd just built a projector out of a LCD monitor. It was rigged up out of lego's, cardboard boxes, duct tape and hot glue, in the nice dark basement. We had a seven foot tall screen of playstation 2 going and had been playing GTA3, GT3 and Armored Core all week.
My friend went out and bought a light gun thinking how awsome it would be. "Does not work with monitors, lcd's or projectors."
Of course, it was actually all three.
I'm not sure if anyone else is doing it, but an Australian uni group is working on an augmented gaming thing that looks significantly cooler.
Why settle for a gun in your lounge when you can have a game incorporated into your surroundings?
Those under 18 will not be allowed to purchase this as it comes under the definition of "imitation firearm".
In fact it looks fairly realistic, if you removed the fake laser unit under the main "pistol" it could even be classified as a "realistic imitation firearm" and thus banned from sale in the UK.
Note the gun is molded from a real Beretta. Even has the model and "PATENDED" on the side. Cut the cord and from a few feet away you can't tell if it is real or not. Definitely not good for kids...
http://www.erealgames.com/ I find this gun heaps more promising although there isn't any PC support yet. Works with PS2 and X-Box's though.
There was a Version of Wolf 3d in VR A long time ago and it cost a lot I think it was $4 a game and it was time based.
Lik Sang has done a hands on review of a lightgun that is compatible with Plasma, LCD, TFT & DLP to meet the massive demand for lightguns.
("but shoots very real holes in conventional CRTs" would also be an acceptable answer.)
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Well folks, I don't know about you but I think that VP Dick Chaney should practice with this instead of a real gun. A lot less "Accidents" would happpen.
I used to love playing the rail games. Maddog etc. When I got my flat screens the fun went away :-( I took a look at the various tech involved and asked /. for comments, silly editors :-(
I took a look at the tech involved in this and by far and the best tech is the laser dot on the screen which is captured by a seperate camera. In the military the small arms trainers work this way.
I started off with a laser pointer and used a usb webcam. It worked well on anything other than CRT, crt can on occasion reflect the laser inside the tube causing the whole screen to go red, try it. I eventually ended up with a couple of co2 airsoft guns and red/green lasers mounted in the barrel.
Worked well. No cables from the guns and highly accurate. Accuracy limited by webcam pixels. Auto configuring, before a game the camera was set up. The screen flashed bright white five times and we were off. Where the pointer his was were you were counted.
Every time i go to Lik-Sang, i wish that they had a redistributor located in the US. Soo much cool stuff, very reasonable prices, restrictively high shipping costs. I am not saying Lik is padding their shipping (as it does have to ship from Hong Kong) but when the shipping is 50 percent of the cost, it really becomes hard to justify.
At 35 dollars each, these guns will sell like crazy. At 45 each they would sell well too.
Unfortunately, being in the US means that shipping from Lik is always what turns me off. In fact, if the guns were 45 each with 10 dollars shipping, i would have been more likely to buy it.
Unfortunately that is not the case.
I priced out 2 guns. at 35 each, thats 70 bux. however, after shipping, the total was 100, which means that shipping alone is 30 dollars. I just cant justify that, which sucks cuz i have a projector and have been itching to play house of the dead and Time Chrisis (and Duck hunt via emulator).
Oh well.
> ... one would think that a lesson you always teach your kid (and more often than once) is never to point a toy gun at anyone,
That's the whole point of a "toy gun", to pretend you're shooting at each other while making "bang" sounds. That's one of the main points, and that's why toy guns are painted with those horrid colors, to prevent any confusion.
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Actually Lik-Sang are really very good with their reviews. Yes, they're selling the items they review. But I've never known them to pump up a review just to drive sales (and in some cases the reviews have caused them to decide not to stock a sub-par product, like the original batch of GP2Xes.) If they think it's crap, they say so.
3d Sound, Laughing Dogs and Dick Cheney hunting quail, but needs to avoid shooting friends while hunting.
I didn't know at the time that light guns didn't work with LCDs, I'd just honestly never thought of it. Now a few years later, I saw the Topgun guns designed to work with any screen and immediately ordered two. They arrived last friday.
Given the two hours I've been able to play with them, here's what I can tell you so far:
* For use with a PC, the install cd will install the drivers, but did not install any configuration software or instructions on how to get them to work with Mame.
* You *CAN* have two guns plugged in at the same time.
* I have been unable to get past the configuration screen. I can get the laser to come on, shoot in the five locations that configure them, but upon shooting the fifth shot the laser does not turn off.
In looking, I did see that the manufacturer has a new set of drivers and software out, hopefully I'll get around to installing and testing this weekend. As for the design, the gun ROCKS! Good weight, feel, design. If you have kids, spray paint it orange. Personally, I like the realistic look.
Indeed, which is why I said teach the lesson more than once. Because kids don't really pay all that much attention. But you grind it through their skulls that they never ever point it at a cop and they'll at least get one part of it down. I know I did.
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About banning toy guns altogether? In my home, they are banned. In the case some uninformed relative gives Lucas (going 7yo) a toy gun for his birthday, he plays with it inside the house for a couple of days with it and then it magically vanishes. That simple. Not that _I_ should be highly concerned -- his real interest is dinosaurs. :-)
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Paid over $30 for shipping for the gun. Turns out DOESN'T WORK with Time Criss II and III. Sucks!
Got my light gun from www.erealgames.com today. Works great with TimeCrisis II and III. I love it - it's wireless. It doesn't look real, I guess they can't sell a realistic one in US.