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Slashback: OSX Security, DoD Filtering, Anonymous Posting

Slashdot tonight brings some corrections, clarifications, and updates to previous Slashdot stories, including some favorable results from the University of Wisconsin's Mac OS X Challenge, skeptics investigate cold fusion claims, more on DoD web filtering, AT&T cuts 10,000 jobs after BellSouth merger, more child-proofing efforts for MySpace, Why Windows Vista Will Suck: a rebuttal, Harvard Professor punished for reporting bugs, Assemblyman Biondi backpedals on NJ anonymous posting bill, and a followup on Chinese TLDs -- Read on for details.

University of Wisconsin's Mac OS X Challenge. HABITcky writes "The University of Wisconsin Security Challenge has ended after 38 hours, intermittent DoS attacks, 4000 ssh login attempts, a bandwidth spike of 30 Mbps, and 6 million logged ipfw events. During this time there were 'no successful access attempts, nor any claims of a successful attempt.' You may remember this challenge was proposed in response to the 'woefully misleading' ZDnet article, Mac OS X hacked under 30 minutes, which was previously discussed here on Slashdot."

Skeptics investigate cold fusion.smooth wombat writes "As a follow-up to a previous Slashdot posting, Purdue University is investigating the claims of Rusi Taleyarkhan who claimed in 2004 to have created nuclear fusion at room temperature. The investigation came about from complaints from colleagues who suspect something is amiss. Taleyarkhan, who used to work at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, has, since working at Perdue, removed the equipment the co-workers were using to try and replicate the results, claimed results for experimental runs were positive for fusion despite the co-workers never seeing the raw data and opposed the publication of results which contradicted his findings."

More on DoD web filtering. timetrap writes "I work in a mobile combat communications unit, while I'm not in the sandbox right now, I can attest to the DoD policy on blocking web access. First of all when you are down range don't expect to even get DSL speeds from a satellite, we usually roll with about 256kbs for the data side of our trunk. So blocking sites is very important, otherwise 4 or 5 people could start streaming audio and pretty much knock down any legitimate use of the network. We filter websites with smartfilter and yes the military system admins in the IPO office will unblock any web site that isn't blocked by local policy (no pr0n, no streaming audio, no civilian web mail: both the hot and the g varieties, and no chat programs; although irc is used by the DoD) This is no Orwellian conspiracy, but quick and easy system administration; apply smartfilter: check! If you want to check the current smartfilter blocked sites goto: securecomputing and submit some sites to check." Slashdot's own Jamie took a look at Smartfilter back in '99 as a part of the Censorware project and it still remains a mysterious black box to this day. While some would advocate full disclosure using censorware still appears to be merely passing the buck.

AT&T cuts 10,000 jobs after BellSouth merger. mytrip writes to tell us that immediately following their $67 billion acquisition of BellSouth, AT&T plans on cutting about 10,000 jobs.

More child-proofing efforts for MySpace. conq writes "BusinessWeek has an interview with Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthalin in which he describes measures MySpace and other similar sites should take to protect children. From the article: 'We're going to be suggesting some very specific measures that MySpace can take based on our conversations with MySpace as well as with other law enforcement authorities at the state and local levels. We've received hundreds of complaints from parents who are concerned about these issues, and we want to be sure that the measures we propose are technologically feasible and financially viable.'"

Why Windows Vista will Suck: a rebuttal. shrapnull writes "Hot on the heels of Extreme Tech's 'Why Windows Vista Won't Suck', Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols has an alternate position posted on DesktopLinux, and sent to subscribers of Novell's 'Suse Linux Cool Solutions' newsletter."

Harvard researcher punished for reporting bugs. Guillermito writes "A story previously discussed came to a sad conclusion two weeks ago. The bottom line is this means that it is forbidden to use reverse engineering tools to find bugs in a software. You also have to prove that you own a valid license for each version of the tested software. To publish a proof of concept that contains a few dozens of copyrighted bytes is also forbidden. It's a nice precedent for any company selling a defective product."

Assemblyman Biondi backpedals on NJ anonymous posting bill. Quadraginta writes "Earlier, denizens of Slashdot reacted to a story about a bill to be introduced to the New Jersey legislature that would require hosts of forums, bulletin boards and the like to keep track of the real identity of anonymous posters. Seems like there was a strong reaction all over. Assemblyman Biondi now appears to be backpedalling furiously. From a letter quoted after the link: 'I am getting inundated with responses which I will review and use to better educate myself on the implications of this bill. If, after reviewing all of the correspondence and the opinion of OLS, it turns out that the bill is, in fact, unworkable, I will certainly reconsider and withdraw it.'"

A followup on Chinese TLDs. nqz writes "In this story on ComputerWorld, ICANN and the China Internet Network Information Center (CNNIC) both dispute a previous story discussing China's new top-level domains containing Chinese characters."

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  1. OSX security by saberworks · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The original article said it would be up through Friday, why the early shutdown? Maybe it stayed up for 38 hours or whatever and then someone got in, so they post-pre-maturely ended the contest the minute before the crack?

    1. Re:OSX security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Pretty sure it was because the university did not like the increased server load it was getting, and it wasn't something that the university approved to begin with.

    2. Re:OSX security by HTTP+Error+403+403.9 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The original article said it would be up through Friday, why the early shutdown? Maybe it stayed up for 38 hours or whatever and then someone got in, so they post-pre-maturely ended the contest the minute before the crack?

      More like the campus IT head went ape shit regarding the amount of bandwidth eaten up by this contest.

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    3. Re:OSX security by wealthychef · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not just bandwidth, but if you were the head admin of their network, how thrilled would you be that somebody hung a big sign on your campus saying "please attack us"?

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  2. Oops! by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Informative
    http://test.doit.wisc.edu/
    Yesterday we discovered the Mac OSX "challenge" was not an activity authorized by the UW-Madison. Once the test came to the attention of our CIO, she ended it. The site, test.doit.wisc.edu, will be removed from the network tonight. Our primary concern is for security and network access for UW services. We are sorry for any inconvenience this has caused to the community.
    I guess Dave Schroeder had it authorized, just not authorized by the right person?

    CIO = Chief Information Officer
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    1. Re:Oops! by d34thm0nk3y · · Score: 4, Insightful

      University of Wisconsin's Mac OS X Challenge. HABITcky writes "The University of Wisconsin Security Challenge has ended after 38 hours, intermittent DoS attacks, 4000 ssh login attempts, a bandwidth spike of 30 Mbps, and 6 million logged ipfw events. During this time there were 'no successful access attempts, nor any claims of a successful attempt.

      I think it is woefully misleading to not mention that the challenge was ended early!

    2. Re:Oops! by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Informative

      I agree with you 100%

      And how come we don't have a link to the information contained in the Slashback? I'm not questioning the veracity of the information, cause Schroeder is on the up and up, but where'd HABITcky read about it?

      P.S. Google cache of the site before the contest was ended.
      http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:test.doit.wis c.edu/

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    3. Re:Oops! by rayde · · Score: 4, Interesting

      i had asked this question initially and Dave had thought the was given permission. But I suspected that the proximity of his response challenge to the failure of the original mac mini challenge meant it was done with slightly less than comprehensive permission. woops.

    4. Re:Oops! by Biff+Stu · · Score: 3, Funny

      In that case, it's a damn shame it wasn't hacked. It seems that he would have welcomed an escallation of permissions.

    5. Re:Oops! by HABITcky · · Score: 5, Interesting

      At the time of my submission (around 12:30pm today), the http://test.doit.wisc.edu/ website did not appear as it does now. It appeared as an updated version of what you see in the Google cache. There was an updated posting on the site from Schroeder earlier this morning mentioning that the challenge had ended and giving the statistics which I included in my submission. The posting had no mention of the challenge ending early or the messege that is currently displayed, it mearly stated that the challenge had ended and there was no successful access by anyone.

  3. OS X security competition "ends" by Tumbleweed · · Score: 5, Interesting

    More like - was done without authorization, and was shut down. From the site linked:

    Yesterday we discovered the Mac OSX "challenge" was not an activity authorized by the UW-Madison. Once the test came to the attention of our CIO, she ended it. The site, test.doit.wisc.edu, will be removed from the network tonight.

    Our primary concern is for security and network access for UW services. We are sorry for any inconvenience this has caused to the community.


    Still, shut down or 'ended,' not being hacked is a good show. Congrats to OS X.

    I think Apple would be well-served by having a continously running OS X security challenge, for both OS X and OS X Server. Offer a reward every time you demonstrate a hole, and fix them fast.

    1. Re:OS X security competition "ends" by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think Apple would be well-served by having a continously running OS X security challenge, for both OS X and OS X Server. Offer a reward every time you demonstrate a hole, and fix them fast.

      Would be nice to see something like this for all platforms. The only question is how valid is the test, since the security of computer depends as much on the network security around it, as the machine itself. Firewalls can help filter out much of the bad traffic, reducing the final impact on the host. I would not like to say that any system is invunerable, since vunerability also depends on the configuration of the machine and the people managing the installation. A well patched windows installation might be as good as a well patched OS X installation.

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    2. Re:OS X security competition "ends" by Tumbleweed · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Would be nice to see something like this for all platforms. The only question is how valid is the test, since the security of computer depends as much on the network security around it, as the machine itself.

      Well, if it's ever done by Apple, it would best be done as a tool to actually help find security vulnerabilities, rather than as a marketing effort. To that end, I'd suggest whatever configuration would best expose those vulnerabilities.

      A similar test for local vulnerabilites would also, obviously, be quite valuable (as the ZDNet test showed).

    3. Re:OS X security competition "ends" by Coryoth · · Score: 4, Informative

      Would be nice to see something like this for all platforms.

      Well it's not exactly identical, but one of the people who works on SELinux has been running a test machine on and off since Fedora Core 2. Details are here. Similar to the OS X box that was hacked in 30 minutes he does have SSH open and provides you with local account access, the local account being root. I wouls suggest that that shows a certain amount of confidence in its security. Also note that SELinux is coming to Ubuntu soon.

      Jedidiah.

    4. Re:OS X security competition "ends" by ePhil_One · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Firewalls can help filter out much of the bad traffic, reducing the final impact on the host.

      Yes, but what happens when someone cracks the Windows box sitting next to IT. If you want to say your box is secure, you better not be adding the caveat "behind a firewall with the network cable unplugged".

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  4. Re: Mac Challenge by Chas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I dunno. I would think a massive, pipe-clogging bandwidth spike, which resulted in the removal of said site, would qualify as a successful attack.

    I guess it all just depends on exactly what you want to do.

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  5. chinese tld's by noopy · · Score: 2, Interesting
    China Internet Network Information Center (CNNIC) both dispute a previous story

    Does it matter what they say? Any Chinese portal with enough heft can just start handing out Chinese TLDs whenever they like. (For that matter, so could I, but noone would know). Does anyone know the current state of international tld support in browsers? And what encoding is/would it support?

    For that matter, if China (mainland) blazes the path for Chinese TLDs, would they go with gb2312 and thus sort of make China (mainland)'s TLD scheme the default for the world as opposed to Taiwan's Big5?

    Myself, I'd be happy to see utf-8 tlds, but that's small potatoes compared to my fervent whish for a utf-8 clean php release. Does slashdot support

  6. Windows no longer uses BSD network stack by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 4, Informative

    It did, in the old days. They rewrote it a long time ago, I think in the jump to Nt 4.0. The userspace command line tools are still BSD based in XP though.

    1. Re:Windows no longer uses BSD network stack by 1053r · · Score: 2, Interesting

      For all of you dual booting people, try this:

      $cat ftp.exe|grep california

      You should get the "Copyright blah-blah regents of the universty of california, berkley" or something similar, I can't quite remember

    2. Re:Windows no longer uses BSD network stack by NetNifty · · Score: 3, Informative

      netnifty@netnifty_linux ~ $ strings ftp.exe | grep -i Cali
      @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California.

      That's from the Windows XP 64-bit Edition ftp.exe, but keep in mind that this is just the text based ftp client, and not the TCP/IP stack we're looking at here. Anyone know which file(s) contains the Windows TCP/IP stack?

    3. Re:Windows no longer uses BSD network stack by Keeper · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you're really curious, just run the same command on every binary under the windows folder; if you only see command line tools spit out, the TCP/IP stack obviously won't have that string in it ..

  7. It was, but... by jd · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...nobody broke into the box to read the statement.

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  8. Re:If it's not a conspiracy... by thryllkill · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm not a marine, but I do work for the DOD, and I can tell you that most political websites, right or left, are blocked. Again, not a conspiracy, just simple work place web surfing management. When you're on a network that doesn't belong to you, or that you don't pay to have access to, you shouldn't complain about the policies in place. I don't bitch at my friends for not letting me fuck their wives when I come to visit their houses.

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  9. DoD filtering by hotspotbloc · · Score: 4, Funny
    no pr0n, no streaming audio, no civilian web mail: both the hot and the g varieties, and no chat programs

    And that's why when it says on your military ID "Property of the U.S. Government" they're not just talking about the ID card ... =)

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    1. Re:DoD filtering by techstar25 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We have to keep in mind that internet access at at work is still a privilage and not a right. These folks may be at war, but they are still "at work", so the admin (DOD) can give and take away any kind of access they want. It has nothing to do with censorship of any kind. They are lucky to have internet access at all.

  10. I am very bothered... by jd · · Score: 5, Interesting
    ...by the effective ban on software research. If you publish a flaw and don't include data backing it, you'll likely be sued for defamation. If you DO include the data (however insignificant) you'll be sued for copyright infringement. The 9/11 case in the US shows that is you do know of a problem, but don't tell anyone, you'll be got that way, too. However, being willfully ignorant of a fault can also land you in court, if it causes harm.


    Software researchers are the most impacted by this, as it's hard for a PhD to claim natural stupidity as a defense. It's expected of most end-users (even when that is unfair) so they can get away with it.

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    1. Re:I am very bothered... by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Interesting
      If you publish a flaw and don't include data backing it, you'll likely be sued for defamation.
      Actually.... If you publish a flaw and don't back it up and then get sued, you can have the pleasure of proving (in a court of law) that their software is teh sux.

      After you've embarrased them (and gotten it into the public record) you can counter-sue them for wasting your time and money. If you're lucky, you can get some punative damages too.

      Unless France is like England, where truth is not a defense against defamation (of which libel & slander are subsets). Other than that, it seems like not including the proof is more prudent than getting bankrupted by copyright claims.
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  11. Solution to security research problem by jmorris42 · · Score: 4, Funny

    There is a fairly simple solution to the problem of vendors forbidding security reaseachers from examining their products. At the next big security confab float and get a lot of signatures on a resolution something like this:

    "Some companies object to our legitimate research, even though we report our findings responsibly. So be it. We resolve to continue to locate defects in these irresponsible vendor's products. However since they now make it a crime to do the right thing, we resolve to anonymously publish our results for these products to the most vile and wicked cracking gangs we can contact as ready to use fully weaponized exploits. We further assert that we do not fear any legal reprecussions on the grounds that if any Fed can tag us we aren't worthy to continue in this line of research."

    Let the business press cogitate on that announcement a day or two and see how fast vendors start backpeddling.

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    1. Re:Solution to security research problem by causality · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It sure would be great if every time a company did something that most people, upon a little thought, would find really objectionable, it could be directly correlated with a huge decrease in sales (your basic old fashioned boycott). It would be great if people knew when they were clutching sand and understood that the harder you try to squeeze, the more you are going to lose.

      But as much as I love your idea, it will not happen due to the Sheeple, who are either too clueless, too apathetic, or both, to make this workable. The backbone is becoming extinct and is being replaced by implicit trust, deference to authority, and pressure to conform.

      Since we as a species fail to discourage these elements (and instead work very hard to prop them up, since they would not survive on their own) because the powerful find them desirable to inculcate in a population*, I do not see any easy way to reverse this either.


      * If you're in charge, wouldn't you rather be in charge of a docile apathetic population as opposed to a more difficult to subjugate sort? If you quickly disagree and say you'd never want that, imagine for a moment that you love power (and are therefore not qualified to wield it, but then power and who has it was never a meritocracy). Does it make sense now? We keep focusing on this bad law and this rogue company and that legislator who doesn't get it, but all of these are merely opportunists and with such a narrow focus we are merely playing a whack-a-mole game. None of these would ever be possible without the masses being so willing to bend over and take it, and the blame lies with them and not with the inevitability that someone WILL take advantage of this.

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    2. Re:Solution to security research problem by Audacious · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They probably won't. They'll just call you terrorists and prosecute you for what you've said. Even though you haven't done anything.

      No - the best thing to do IMHO is to just say that you have found a problem with their product but that due to the litigious nature of the company(ies) you can not explain how the problem comes about nor will you provide any details because you have destroyed all evidence in accordance with the company's wishes that all problems remain just that - unresolved problems. Further, since you have found these problems and could verify that they existed if the company would allow you to do so; you must - in the future - deny any request from the company for information (since you had to destroy it and it is illegal to have such information in your possession) and - you must also, from that day forwards, recommend that this company's products be barred from consideration in future purchases for the university and/or any companies with which you are going to be working with until the problem has been fixed.

      Remember - hit them in their pocketbook. If everyone gangs up against the company and refuses to buy their products and boycotts them, they will go out of business and you won't have to deal with them anymore - or - they will stop trying to enforce rules and regulations which are detrimental to the overall health of the (and their) economy.

      The alternative is for the person to send the information out to every other university in the United States and all of them declare the same findings at the same time so there isn't just one person the company can sue. They would have to sue everyone which makes them a persona non grata in the academic world. The great thing about this idea is that it would definitely draw the attention of the press if such a thing occurred. Which, I believe, is not something any company wants to do. (Be on TV across the nation in a bad light.)

      Just my $0.02 worth. :-)

      PS: Remember - they can't make you perjure yourself in court. So when they ask what you did you just say "I can not answer that under the rules and regulations of the 5th admendment." And if asked to explain you just look at the judge and say it is a catch-22 situation. You are damned if you answer and damned if you do not. Sort of like the Spanish Inquisition where they'd ask questions like "Did you enjoy consorting with the devil the last time you did it?" and then only allow you to answer yes or no. Either answer makes it look as if you enjoyed consorting with the devil at some point.

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  12. Why Windows Vista Will Suck by heatdeath · · Score: 5, Funny

    For those who don't want to read the entire article, here is the cliffsnote version.

    I understand operating systems and am very smart and I have 20 computers and a dog named spot.

    linux power.

    Vista will suck because it won't be free.

    linux power.

    The graphics will suck because it takes an expensive computer to run Aeroglass.

    linux power.

    Memory management will suck because linux has had good memory management for years.

    linux power.

    Superfetch will suck because GCC has had it for years, and your dog can run off with your USB card. (Never mind that it's just a *cache*, and it won't do anything but slow your computer down again after your dog starts chewing on it)

    linux power.

    TCP/IP improvements will suck because it's been in other OS's for years.

    linux power.

    Security will be bad because they found a bug in vista.

    linux power.

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    1. Re:Why Windows Vista Will Suck by paulius_g · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Speaking of "superfetch", arn't most USB storage devices running on flash memory? Flashable memory does tend to stop working after a certain number of flashes. Moving in and out huge ammount of data will seriously shorten the life of these devices.

      Seriously though, I would like Microsoft to improve their caching abbilities using the system's RAM. For now, Windows only has two setting. To cache minimally, or maximally. So what do I do when I got 2GB of RAM, want a run a 300mb application and cache the rest? According to Microsoft, they recommend not to cache because Windows will store that application in the paging file. Talk about stupidity.

      Seriously, if mainstream applications would be ported to Linux, more people would switch.

    2. Re:Why Windows Vista Will Suck by Comen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The original article does not mention anything about a USB drive for Superfetch that I remember.
      Everyone sure that guy didnt just make that up.
      I mean if the system lets you point Superfetch to any drive on the system and you happen to point it to a USB drive then fine, but does it have to be on the USB drive?
      using a USB drive for that seems like a bad really bad idea agreed. But i havent read anything saying that but this guys article, and maybe he set his system up for that or something? but no body told him to or made him do this?

      Curious.

  13. Re: Mac Challenge by alien-alien · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I would like to point out that those people who state that MacOS X hacking is of little interest to the hacking community because the Mac has little market presence should pay attention to the draw this challenge precipitated.

    Looks like every hacker and their uncle had a go at this one. I wonder how many unique IP addresses were used to access the challenge.

  14. What a @$#%#$ idiot... by stubear · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I read that pile of crap that somone claims to be an article about Why Vista Will Suck and all I got out of it is this guy is a $%@^$@# idiot. Great, he's got a copy of Vista and a fast machine. Most of his complaints can either be dismissed because Vusta is still a BETA or not attributed to Microsoft at all. Is it really Microsoft's fault if you're not careful around your USB drive? And who cares if Linux and Mac OS X have had feature X for years? Isn't Vista going to benefit from using feature X if everyone else has? How can this be a reason why Vista will suck? Isn't this more of a reason why Microsoft's marketing managers suck? What about his anecdotal argument concering security? There was a patch for the WMF swcurity hole. Let's analyze the argument. First of all, the patch was released in January. The CTP was released in February. You do the math. Not to mention that perhaps there was an old portion of XP in the January release of Vista that's since been removed from the February CTP. Did Stephen check? Probably not. If security patches being released for an OS are all the proof he needs that it's insecure than he'd better add OS X and Linux to the list. All in all, this was a poorly written and researched article with little evidence to back up his claims.

  15. Re:What kind of sentence by brsmith4 · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's not.

    Part 1: Taleyarkhan, who used to work at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, has, since working at Perdue, removed the equipment the co-workers were using to try and replicate the results

    , (comma)

    Part 2: claimed results for experimental runs were positive for fusion despite the co-workers never seeing the raw data

    and (Proper use of a conjunction in a sentence containing a list of verb phrases)

    Part 3: opposed the publication of results which contradicted his findings.

    Each part of this sentence is not a sentence in and of itself (with the exception of part one, which is completely acceptable), which would constitute a run-on sentence. It is grammatically correct even though it is quite surprising and irregular, being the work of a Slashdot editor. This sentence is logically equivalent to:

    Joe, who used to manage Cisco-based networks at Sandia National Labs, has, since completing his dissertation, published papers on network topologies, lectured at various institutions and released software to aid in the management of large-scale networks.

    Sure, its clumsy and difficult to read, but still valid.

  16. Re:If it's not a conspiracy... by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Informative
    I can tell you that most political websites, right or left, are blocked
    I won't dispute your word, but I recall that Rush Limbaugh gets syndicated to the U.S. military's American Forces Radio and Television Service.

    AFAIK, there are no voices giving out any other viewpoint(s).

    You can read an in-depth review of the matter here:
    http://www.petitiononline.com/mmfa2/petition.html
    The petition was created by the people at Media Matters
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  17. DoD policy=depends on who ya ask! by 1337p1rt3 · · Score: 4, Informative

    "I work in a mobile combat communications unit, while I'm not in the sandbox right now, I can attest to the DoD policy on blocking web access.

    There are several levels of DoD blocking. First, the DoD policy on web access, policy, and security in general, very broad, next is the Departments level, i.e. Army, Navy, etc, then there is the base policy and then the command policy and unit policy all the way down to the company. The "general rule" is that no one can have policy rules lower then that of above. This means a platoons policy can not be more lax then the base policy. This sort of transitive policy based appliance leaves much room for interpretation at all levels of policy implementation. Every service is different, every level is different and every network right down to the hardware is different. So, when you talk about blocking you have to be very specific as it is nearly impossible to just nail down an exact, cut and dry policy. Web content filtering, ACL's and the likes are different from service to service and mission to mission.

    First of all when you are down range don't expect to even get DSL speeds from a satellite, we usually roll with about 256kbs for the data side of our trunk.

    This is too far from the truth depending on the environment. The Ku band in Iraq is quite substantial in fact the smallest direct BGP Sat link might be a T-1 up to 8 and 32Meg or so via a Sat package called the DKET. This is speaking for the Marine side by the way. Also lateral links are about 3Meg at the smallest level via another Ku Sat package. This of course has its caveats. At this level we are talking about a non-mobile infrastructure were as a mobile infrastructure would be a Microware shot thru a TSR or MUX link at anywhere from 96k to 512k or more depending on voice needs and breakdown of classified to unclassified network needs. (Data bandwidth is shared between the two types of DoD networks when multiplexed, voice generally rides its own trunk card thru the multiplexer, typically a Promina node does this multiplexing or at lower levels in the unit they have what is called an FCC multiplexer)

    So blocking sites is very important, otherwise 4 or 5 people could start streaming audio and pretty much knock down any legitimate use of the network. We filter websites with smartfilter and yes the military system admins in the IPO office will unblock any web site that isn't blocked by local policy (no pr0n, no streaming audio, no civilian web mail: both the hot and the g varieties, and no chat programs; although irc is used by the DoD)

    This is somewhat accurate. From the Corps standpoint, when I first went to Iraq this was not the case. We could chat all day long until it was "locked down". This is done at the BGP point via the highest headquarters out there, CentCom etc. Even then it isn't full proof, I found ways around it, i.e. bypass or just good ole bribing the E-3 at the terminal.

    This is no Orwellian conspiracy, but quick and easy system administration; apply smartfilter: check! If you want to check the current smartfilter blocked sites goto: securecomputing and submit some sites to check."

    Once again, take this with a grain of salt. Though this seems like it applies to all agencies and to all services at all times it really doesn't. The mobile and deployed units are in constant flex so nothing is really ever solidified when it comes to policy. The ONLY real way to know for sure is to go out there and site down behind their network and try it yourself, or ask someone you know out there to do it. I have a couple dozen friends out there right now on the Net Admin side so if you have a specific inquiry post it and I will see what I can come up with.

  18. Re:Are Slashdot Editors embarrassed yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Digg.com is eating slashdot alive right now. Better stories, better tech, better forum. It's only a matter of time slashdot becomes irrelevant unless they can turn it around."

    I really hope a lot of people leave Slashdot for Digg because the only people that read Digg are complete and utter morons. The intelligent people have already realized that Digg is complete garbage and the idiots that are to stupid to understand that can flock to the idiocy that is Digg. It only makes the community here better by filtering out some of the morons. Digg reminds me of an AOL chat room that is filled with nothing but below average script kiddies...

    Digg is the perfect example of what's wrong with all this "Web 2.0" garbage. Flashy website that's incredibly bloated with no real content and a horribly dumb community.

  19. Parent is right. by marcello_dl · · Score: 3, Interesting

    those people who state that MacOS X hacking is of little interest to the hacking community because the Mac has little market presence should pay attention to the draw this challenge precipitated.

    I completely agree with you. a 4,5% share seems low but many hackers would get a terrific ego boost by being able to shut up once for all the mac fanboys. Also some attacks on windows rely on unpatched machines with this and that service running and reachable through firewalls, which could well mean an attack on the 10% or less of the total of windows machines which in turns makes like an 8-6% or even less share. Crackers still take time to engineer them, though.

    Mod parent up, please.

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  20. Re:Vista will be expensive...? by sqlrob · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And a new computer to support it, at least according to him.

  21. myspace by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We're going to be suggesting some very specific measures that MySpace can take based on our conversations with MySpace as well as with other law enforcement authorities at the state and local levels.

    Not sure what the point of this article is, he doesn't even say what his "specific measures" are. Probably just some political move.

    I don't know what the big deal is about myspace, just politician noise, I guess. What kind of 14 year old girl is going to go out with a 30 year old man? If they do, there is probably some other problem (like they are starved for affection). I remember here on slashdot a few years ago there was a story about a girl who got seduced by a predator, but her mother was encouraging it!

    So yeah, there is a problem here, but making laws about myspace isn't going to help anything.

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    Qxe4
  22. Shhhh! by SEWilco · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The bottom line is this means that it is forbidden to use reverse engineering tools to find bugs in a software.

    "Why Windows Vista won't be known to suck."

  23. Re:If it's not a conspiracy... by DAldredge · · Score: 3, Informative

    1700 PACIFIC U.S. MON - FRI TOP
    00:00 AP Newscast
    03:00 Sporting News Radio Sports
    06:00 The Al Franken Show

  24. Re:Are Slashdot Editors embarrassed yet? by causality · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The sad fact is that there is a vast left-wing conspiracy in the media to bury stories that are unfavorable to their political viewpoint. Liberals don't want to hear truth. Stories from soldiers in Iraq are positive, but lefties watching CNN all day only want to hear bad news so they can feel good about hating Bush some more.

    It's not about left-wing or right-wing or centrist or any of that. It's about money and power just as it has always been. Play the follow-the-money game (and hone some research skills too, woohoo!) more often and you will come to see this.
    Left, right today. God, Satan yesterday. You notice it's always two, and only two, diametrically opposed ideas that can be compromised but cannot be reconciled (with other ideas existing only in an extremely marginalized form that is unlikely to be implemented, such as libertarianism). Your basic divide-and-conquer strategy. The left-wing vs. right-wing is an idealistic clash that does a great job of distracting people from basic critical thinking skills and a willingness to stick to the facts as determined by evidence when making decisions. It's a distraction, and it's a deliberate and effective one.

    I'll give an example. Generally a left-winger is for greater personal freedom and more economic restrictions (particularly income redistribution, but there are others). Generally a right-winger is for greater economic freedom (tax cuts and the like) but more restrictions on personal freedom. Well, guess what? Both require a rather large government to properly realize their stated goals. So you have everyone squabbling over which set of restrictions they prefer, meanwhile, the elected officials continue to enjoy an ever-increasing national budget and more and more laws to appease their campaign contributors (recent changes to copyright law, anyone?). No matter how you carry out the left vs. right debate, a minimal government will never be the result. As stated above, a very effective distraction. For the people who stand to gain from less real freedom, and this subset of the population includes the major media outlets, it has served its purpose well. You don't need a conspiracy of any sort either; all that is required is that those who desire power act in their own interests while no one does anything to check them because they're too concerned about who will win the next American Idol.

    It has always amazed me how so many people would agree that throughout history, religion has been used to control people by keeping them ignorant and willing to obey, but the same folks who will agree with that find it absurd that media and propaganda and creature comforts and an overemphasis on work/business can be used the same way.
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    It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. - Einstein
  25. There is no AT&T by fm6 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Nowadays, I have a moment of weirdness whenever I see a headline about what AT&T is up to. I still think of it as SBC, which was once part of the original AT&T, but has now morphed into something completely different.

    The "real" AT&T, pathetic as it was in the last couple of decades of its existence, had a long and interesting history, dating to the 1870s. There's something profoundly phony about a company like SBC claiming to be a continuation of that.

  26. Re:DesktopLinux? by Total_Wimp · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one who had a problem with this article. It's one of the most poorly reasoned evaluation of software I have ever personally seen. The article is best summed up by these two paragraphs near the end:
    The folks from ExtremeTech also like the fact that Vista will have many more built-in applications. Isn't this why Microsoft got into trouble with the Department of Justice a while back? Isn't this the kind of thing that has both South Korea and the European Union raking them over the coals? Why, yes. Yes, it is.

    Be that as it may, as I sit here looking at my SUSE 10 Linux desktop, I can't help but notice that I have, for free, every software application I could ever want. Advantage: Linux.
    In the first paragraph he blasts Microsoft for bundling apps. In the second he praises his Linux distro for bundling so many more. Based on this kind of evaluation, Vista literally can't win.

    But even earlier in the article he blasts windows for supporting peripherals that do not yet exist. DirectX10 graphic cards and CableCard support both get dismissed because you can't buy them yet (just as you can't buy Vista). Once again, how can Microsoft possibly fix this; by not providing support for this hardware?

    Finally, now that Microsoft can't win by adding software or hardware support, Microsoft can't win by adding features. The guy has dug deep to find a little-advertised networking feature that lets you use ipsec for internal communications. He declares this to be bad. He fails to tell you that you are neither required, nor coerced to use this feature. He fails to mention that you will probably not even know it exists unless A) you run a corporate network and B) you dig deep into the OS to find it. My mind is completely numb trying to comprehend how MS is screwing the customer here. Once again, should they have just left the option out?

    This guy hasn't merely set the bar too high for Vista, he's replaced the bar with a sign that says, "still too low." This is only worth reading as a reminder that people who support the right thing are more than capable of doing it in the wrong way.

    TW
  27. USB and SuperFetch by bastianmz · · Score: 2, Informative

    There are two Vista concepts at play here, SuperFetch and External Memory Devices (EMDs).

    "Windows Vista introduces a new concept in adding memory to a system. USB flash drives can be used as External Memory Devices (EMDs) to extend system memory and improve performance without opening the box. Your computer is able to access memory from an EMD device much more quickly than it can access data on the hard drive, boosting system performance. When combined with SuperFetch technology, this can help drive impressive improvement in system responsiveness."

    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/features/for everyone/performance.mspx

    SuperFetch can apparently use an EMD as additional ram and "A unique algorithm optimizes wear patterns, so that a USB device can run as an EMD for many years, even when heavily used.". I think that I'd take it with a grain of salt until I saw it working, this is still marketing fluff as the USB support won't be available until a later preview version of Vista (http://www.itnews.com.au/newsstory.aspx?CIaNID=20 100).

    I am curious about the Hybrid Hard Drives mentioned in the article on the Microsoft site. Anyone know which manufacturers are developing hard drives with a large flash cache?

  28. No conspiracy theory neccessary here... by bloggins02 · · Score: 2, Informative

    While I'm as big a fan of conspiracy theories as the next guy, I'm sorry to say that no such speculation is neccessary in this case.

    The guy just cannot write.

    Seriously, check out Linux Desktop or Linux Watch and check out other articles by this guy (his name is Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols). It's all the same story: flawed, simpleton logic; egregious typos (he must hate copy editors, because he's obviously never let one near one of his articles); sentences so poorly constructed that although you know you're reading English you can't figure out for the life of you what the guy is saying.

    Even when he's not that bad, he's bad...

    DSL, for those of you who don't know it, is one of several "mini-Linux" distributions. Of the set, it's probably the most well thought of since it actually manages to pick a GUI into its goodness and, having turned version 2.0 recently, it's the most mature of the mini-Linuxes.

    See, he's just a bit off-kilter; it's not that you can't parse the sentence, it just gives you that queezy feeling in your stomach that you can't explain. I don't know where this guy learned to write, but I can tell you that I won't be reading any more of his "articles."

  29. Vista will suck, really? by TheNetAvenger · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ok, I don't agree with the 'counter' article on why Vista will suck, as we have also been using it, and there are some rough edges, but even at this beta point it is more stable and mature than some other 'full scale' shipping OSes.

    However, I had to go WTH when I read the article. How can anyone here in the /. community truly use this article as a 'definitive' answer of what Vista will or won't do.

    #1) The person writing the article doesn't even have a video card that does Vista Glass, that means, they don't have a video Card made in the last 4 years, all it takes is a Pixel Shader 2.0 on the card, that NVidia debuted years ago at Comdex with the GeforceFX 5200 for 80 bucks.

    #2) Did anyone else catch this line about his reference to the Vista video requirements, " would only add that if you expect to see the fancy desktop, you need to invest in, say, an ATI Radeon XPress 200, an Nvidia nForce4, or a high-end graphics card."

    Ok, hold your hand up if you know the difference between Video and Mainboard chipsets? nForce/Geforce anyone? I know 10 year olds that would laugh at this. And the ATI Radeon Xpress 200 as a base line? An integrated ATI Chipset that debuted last year? That is even crazy.

    How about an NVidia PCI 5200 Graphics card made several years ago as the baseline, and Vista does Glass quite well on it even. Even generic notebooks baseline for Video anymore is ATI or Nvidia chipsets that include Pixel Shader 2.0 technology or basically hardware DirectX 9 support as others would call it.

    I don't fully disagree with this person's article either, but really, is this /. quality? And yes, that is kind of a loaded question as some of the stuff we see is questionable anyway.

    Make your own judgements on this, even as the article says, Vista seems to be better than XP, and who knows for sure how it will turn out...

  30. Re: Mac Challenge by Lars+T. · · Score: 3, Funny
    Well, if you want to take down a machine, you can also submit a story linking to it on Slashdot - doesn't make you a 1337 h4x0r even if it works.

    Oh yes, and: "The challenge is as follows: simply alter the web page on this machine, test.doit.wisc.edu (128.104.16.150)." Not DOS it or other machines around it.

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    Lars T.

    To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck

  31. Re:Are Slashdot Editors embarrassed yet? by Jay+Carlson · · Score: 2, Informative

    Normally I read digg entirely by RSS. Predictably, if you want any content, they want you to click through, since they haven't figured out how to transfer their ad-serving tech to RSS.

    Recently, I *did* click through to something sufficiently enticing, and started reading. Woah.

    They suddenly have nesting discussions (ok, only 2-level), comment rating, *and* filtering based on aggregate rating. As far as I can tell, they're only a few weeks away from the full-grown trolling ecology that is slashdot.

    Don't think I'm just dissing slashdot. You should consider that this very message is pandering to you. It's a troll, albeit a troll with actual content. Despite my ph33rsom3 50 karma, I just can't resist writing a message that's informative and trying to get a good audience response.

    Before you write off digg as a bunch of fucking loser teenagers who wouldn't know a VAX if somebody dropped it on their WRX (admittedly true), you should consider that they just grabbed what are probably the two most important feature from slashdot for fostering a culture encouraging intelligent commentary.

    Meanwhile, slashcode in response picks up its first new features in *ages*.

    Competition is goooooooooood.

  32. Re:What kind of sentence by BrokenHalo · · Score: 2, Interesting
    It's not that complicated a sentence. While I realise that corporate suitspeak and that despicable Microsoft grammar checker exhort us to use baby-talk sentences ("This is Spot. See Spot run."), there's nothing that says we have to listen to them.

    I could go on at great length about the iniquity of PowerPointisation of the English language, but I won't. Suffice to say that we should not have to assume that our audience has the attention span of a flea.

  33. Re:smartfilter by Sepodati · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, according to another guy behind the filter (me), every one of those sites comes up.

    Like someone else said above, the policies are applied differently across the services and down to the different levels. rushlimbaugh.com proabably isn't blocked because NO ONE F'N GOES THERE and no bandwidth is being wasted on it. If a flood of users went there and started eating up / wasting bandwidth, then it's be blocked for operation reasons because the site is not mission essential.

    You know, just _maybe_ there is someone pushing a political agenda here. I can't say for sure that there's not. But this isn't a "DOD" or "Marine" policy to block these sites. Every situation and site is different and what happens at one shouldn't be lumped with the entire DOD.

    ---John Holmes...

  34. Re:UTF by Haeleth · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For this reason, it would seem stupid to use UTF-8 or UTF-16. Those don't encode everything that need to be encoded, if we're to have a truly international system.
    Based on the current definitions, we should be looking at UTF-32...
    The Unicode FAQ talks a lot about how nobody needs more character sets than UTF-16 can support, but (a) they don't represent all languages, or even a reasonable set, because UTF-16 can't handle that many...


    With due respect, you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

    UTF-8, UTF-16, and UTF-32 encode exactly the same characters. There is no character that can be encoded in UTF-32 that cannot be represented in UTF-16 or UTF-8. And there is no character that is needed to write any text in the world that would not fit into the range of characters that Unicode allows for. Period.

    Moreover, the efficiency implications of decoding UTF-16 surrogate pairs or long UTF-8 sequences are hugely overblown. Yes, UTF-8 and UTF-16 are variable-length encodings, but in practice that is totally irrelevant. Even UTF-32 represents many logical characters as multi-codepoint sequences, with things like combining diacritics. The complexity of processing things like Arabic text, which is full of ligatures and positional glyph variants, dwarfs the perceived complexity of performing a few bit shifts to convert three or four UTF-8 bytes into a Unicode codepoint.

    In the nicest possible way, please go and learn about how these things really work before you come back and mouth off about things you don't fully understand.