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How Hot Would a Light Saber Really Be?

Datagod asks: "Has anyone ever calculated the temperature you would need to be able to slice through steel like it was thin air? How hot would a light saber really need to be? Also, I am assuming that at least some of the metal would be vaporized and the expanding gas would fling bits of molten metal at the saber wielder. Wouldn't your average Jedi be horribly scarred from all this."

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  1. 2nd post by glassjaw+rocks · · Score: 5, Funny

    april fools! it's first.

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    1. Re:2nd post by cekerr · · Score: 5, Informative

      When I clicked on the link:
      "The House Subcommittee on Modern Intergalactic Weapons Development and Regulation"
      My Firefox browser was hijacked, endless screens opened up and somebody's voice came over the speaker saying I know not what. One of the screens was an unpleasant image.
      OK, I've been April Fooled. But I doubt it was the sort of thing slash.dot approves of and if it does, I'm disapointed.
      Yes, I know all sorts of clever people can hijack my computer via malicious links. But I had hoped for better standards around here.
      I'm now on the 4 hour virus scan/spyware checking cycle on my laptop. Just as well it's Saturday.

    2. Re:2nd post by RobbieGee · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wife?!?! AHaha! Good one, you almost had me!

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  2. Wickedlasers by cyber_rigger · · Score: 4, Funny

    Buy one and point it at a thermometer.

    http://wickedlasers.com/

    O.K. so these aren't really lightsabers.

    1. Re:Wickedlasers by kaan · · Score: 4, Informative

      omg for a second there i thought you posted a url to http://wickedweasel.com.

      *phew* that was close!

  3. Nanotechnology by Travoltus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A nanotech style light saber would be the best way to go. Nanites could burn through their target and work on a whitelist principle: a friend's DNA would be ignored.

    Quite literally you could ram your nanotech light saber through a hostage taker and the nanites would decline to harm the whitelisted hostage.

    I can't believe no one else thought of this. PATENT!!!!!! OMFG I am teh pwnz0r take that George Lucas!!!!!!

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  4. Light sabers are not hot by tuxlove · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Light sabers work at the subatomic level, disintegrating matter. However, heat is generated within resistant materials, giving the impression that the sabers themselves are actually hot. Don't the slashdot guys know this?

    1. Re:Light sabers are not hot by neoform · · Score: 5, Funny

      You know, it's just a sci-fi movie right? These things don't exists, so why are you explaining how they actually work?

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  5. As hot as... by killerface · · Score: 5, Funny

    not as hot as the pink on the site

  6. Use the Force... by aktzin · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Wouldn't your average Jedi be horribly scarred from all this."

    Not necessarily, Padawan. If a Jedi cuts through a door/bulkhead/vehicle with a light saber s/he could avoid getting splashed with melted metal by applying a subtle Force push along with the slicing motion of the saber. To Saber 101 class you should return, youngling. ;)

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  7. The real question is really... by TeacherOfHeroes · · Score: 4, Funny

    More importantly, could a Jedi make a light sabre so hot that he himself could not wield it?

    1. Re:The real question is really... by Jeremi · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Sure. No one said Jedis were omnipotent


      I'm going off topic, but I think today's as good a day as any to do so... is it possible that at some point God renounced his omnipotence? As an omnipotent being, he would certainly have the power to do so... but of course he might not be able to undo it afterward, being no longer omnipotent. Perhaps he painted himself into a corner that way.


      It would certainly explain the steep decline in the quality of miracles these days...

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    2. Re:The real question is really... by rgoldste · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Scott Adams wrote a book, God's Debris, that explores your question of what happens if God gives up his omnipotence. I'll let you read the free ebook yourself, but the basic idea is that God, as a perfect being, gets bored of his own existance and tries to spice things up by committing suicide. In doing so, God created the universe.

      Wikipedia notes the parallels of this to Hinduism. When I read God's Debris, I was reminded of GWF Hegel's Philosophy of Religion, where God also empties himself of divinity in order to start time and create the universe because he realized that his pure existence is meaningless. Time is the progress of God, the spirit of whom is now extended in all matter, coming to 'realize' himself as God. So, in a sense, God is evolving.

      These theological moves (God is extended in the world and God is realized in the future) allow for dodging some thorny questions. For example, Can God create a rock that he can't lift? The answer is, for *now*, yes. But he might be stronger tomorrow.

  8. My calculations say ... by RubberDuckie · · Score: 4, Funny

    The light saber would need to be 6241 F to cut through metal. At that temperature, the metal would be separated into sub-atomic particles called 'fooltrons'. As I'm sure you are aware, fooltrons are far to small to cause damage to the human body.

    1. Re:My calculations say ... by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 4, Funny

      Incorrect. Nothing is fooltron proof.

    2. Re:My calculations say ... by buswolley · · Score: 4, Funny

      FoolTron --The adventures of Bush after getting transported into his computer.

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  9. Mod me please? by 4D6963 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    OK, since today the weirdest stuff happens out here, can I get this comment modded up? Looks like there just has to ask. Thanks alot.

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    1. Re:Mod me please? by gardyloo · · Score: 4, Funny

      If only I had mod points. I wasted them all just before the pink crap showed up.

    2. Re:Mod me please? by 4D6963 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      It's all good, today is not a good day to have mod points anyways, I guess.

      Seeing how the grand-parent got modded, I conclude that I hardly understand any logic in the modders mind anyways. Instead of considering using quasars for encryption, they should rather consider using /. mods.

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  10. Afraid by Soulfader · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I don't know what the most frightening aspect of this topic is.
    • The extraordinarily detailed answers from people who spend a lot of time thinking about this sort of thing.
    • The retarded answers from people who don't spend a lot of time thinking about this sort of thing.
    • The retarded jokes forthcoming about people's pulsing hot lightsabers
    • The prospect of spending all day sifting through stuff like this looking for real news
    • The fact that I'm rather curious about this myself.
    I know very little of physics, Star Wars or other. So I shall link to the disturbing Star Wars-related musings of my friend instead.
  11. How hot? enough to burn the user? by Bananatree3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Looking at this comment I found, the author makes a good arguement: If the light sabre were hot enough to easily melt stuff, wouldn't it radiate so much heat that it would burn the user?

  12. Re:Very hot. by kryten_nl · · Score: 5, Informative

    Very, very cold.

    As the anti-protons move at uniform speed and the temperature is defined by the relative speed of particles wrt the flow.

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  13. All your answers ... by psergiu · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... are HERE .

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  14. Re:It's not an issue of just temperature by heiders · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dunno about you, but I've never seen "steel" on my periodic table. Maybe I have the unpatched version...

  15. I was actually asking a serious question... by Datagod · · Score: 5, Funny

    I submitted this as a serious question 24 hours ago (or so). Just my luck, the only time my question gets accepted its april fools, and the whole site is pink! LOL

  16. Re:Duh by coso · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mace Wendu: I don't want no muthafrakking metal bita coming at my muthafrakking eyes! I will not be some blind-ass
    Stevie Wonder jedi. ...and this the JEDI adopted OSHA standards.

    It is a time of great eye protection in the republic.

    Eyeprotection worn by leading scientists without the force powers to deflect metal bits from their eyes.

    They found the lightsaber:
    Was developed from an ancient bread-slicer / toaster.
    Contains 1.21 gigawats of power between recharge of it's flux capacitors.
    Ranges from 350F to 50000F (battery life may suffer from extended operation, and overheating may occur at high temperatures.
    Still makes a tasty grilled cheese sandwich in a pinch.
    It was a dark time in the Republic.
    Mainly because light sabers are really, really bright at high temperatures.
    So bright as to be blinding.
    Hence the recall. ........
    *sigh* and so the 100th episode of the Star Wars series aired... in gravity distorting 3-D.
    1138 left to go.

  17. Re:Very hot. by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Funny
    Luke warm

    Luke warm maybe, but Leia in slave-dress is hot.

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  18. You've got it all wrong by Robotech_Master · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's not the heat...it's the humidity.

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  19. Re:Could Jesus microwave a burrito by mrpeebles · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Could Jesus microwave a burrito so hot that he himself could not eat it?"
    No, he could always eat the burrito, no matter how hot. He would just suffer while eating it. Horribly. For all our sakes. (And of course, since a Jewish man prepared the burrito, we Christians would hold the Jewish people guilty of this for the rest of time, or at least for a millenium or two...)

  20. Re:Shadows by Ruie · · Score: 4, Informative
    I remember getting scolded by some fanboys for suggesting that lightsabers should cast no shadows (apparently they must cast shadows since shadows were present in Episode 4...) because the cutting edge - whether plasma or whatever else - would need to be hairline-thin regardless of temperature in order to slice through things without causing unmanageable explosions of melted and vaporized target material.

    Well, assume for a moment that it works. To melt metal one needs a lot of energy - so it likely comes from a nuclear source.

    1kg of steel has specific heat of 448 joules per degree Kelvin.

    Energy from fusion of hydrogen atoms is at most 8 Mev, the energy stored in Hafnium atom is 3 Mev - let's assume that the agent used has weight of Hafnium but produces 1 Mev per atom.

    Thus 1kg of energy agent stores 9e10 Joules - plenty enough to heat 20e3 tonnes of steel to 10000 degrees - cool !

    So, as long as I am having fun, here is a "complete" light saber design - just so that no one tries to patent something that obvious:

    • Handle - let's separate in two compartments - one contains energy agent and the other initiator that bombards that agent with nuclear particles.
    • In response to bombardment energy agent produces new particles in much greater proportion - this is a sticky point as single pass stimulated emission amplification is likely not that efficient - but then we have power to spare ! In fact this might be a feature as the handle will last very long time - the amplification medium will deplete slowly and from one end.
    • the particles are passed through moderator which limits their mean path in air to desired length.
    • put peltier element around the energy agent and moderator and feed the energy into the initiator.
    • initiator could be made as short pulse laser striking metal foil - these have been tested as tabletop devices already and should be capable to produce 3Mev gamma rays.
    • move the initiator around as energy agent is used up.
    The particle fountain would be very narrow - but it will heat up the air and that would produce the glow. Oh - and plasmas are opaque to light so there will be a shadow.

  21. Consider oxy cutters and plasma cutters instead by dbIII · · Score: 4, Interesting
    These things don't exists
    True, and the headline shows an ignorance of basic chemistry. Any oxy-acetylene cutter doesn't have to be hot enough to melt steel - the steel oxidises and burns away - so some sort of device that ionises air would be hitting steel with a lot of hot oxygen and burning it away. An oxy torch that cuts through steel like butter has trouble getting through aluminium alloy despite it having a melting point around 1000k less.

    Plasma cutters are something else again, real and possibly far more like a light saber would be if such a thing was real. Heating up a gas and making it behave a lot like a liquid to burn things away leaving nothing but a clean cut and hot dust is the way the things work - all you need is high voltage electricity, appropriate electodes and a good supply of pressurised gas.