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Former BSA VP Confirmed as Tech Undersecretary

RedOregon writes "The Senate has confirmed Robert Cresanti as the Commerce Department's new undersecretary for technology. Who's that, you ask? He was the former vice president of public policy at the Business Software Alliance. Does this give anyone else the Heebie Jeebies??"

178 comments

  1. If that position meant anything, maybe by daeg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're getting the heebie jeebies from an undersecretary? The position means very little, be glad he wasn't given a real job like a spot on the Supreme Court.

    1. Re:If that position meant anything, maybe by PCM2 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Really. A paper-pusher from the public policy department of what is in essence a law firm, getting hired to a government job? Now I've seen everything.

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    2. Re:If that position meant anything, maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I head you can get the heebie jeebies from publib toilets...ewwwwww!

    3. Re:If that position meant anything, maybe by StillNeedMoreCoffee · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Think about it. The top jobs are political payback and friends and it is the underscretaries and other "minor" functionaries that actually do the work and do most of the harm.

      Be afraid, be very afraid.

    4. Re:If that position meant anything, maybe by flogic42 · · Score: 0

      Anyone who works or used to work in an industry that is regulated by a government agency should be banned from seeking an office in that regulatory agency. Sadly two thirds of the high positions in the Dept. of Agriculture are held by ex- or current employees of genetic engineering firms like Monsanto.

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  2. "Does this give anyone else the Heebie Jeebies??" by Amouth · · Score: 1

    if you say so shure.. else it is just the government in action again

    Nothing to see here please move along..... oh and PAY US..

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  3. Everyone except by idonthack · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Does this give anyone else the Heebie Jeebies??
    Everyone except the Senators. They're getting new cars.
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    1. Re:Everyone except by fm6 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If the Bush Administration doesn't give you Heebie-Jeebies on a daily basis, you need to reduce your valium dosage.

    2. Re:Everyone except by Moridineas · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Offtopic, but I just wanted to say that your sig is awesome--I've sent it around to a number of people already.

      Creepy...

    3. Re:Everyone except by shaitand · · Score: 1

      I like this one better.

      The difference between the US and China.

    4. Re:Everyone except by Moridineas · · Score: 1

      You might want to check out the documentary "Waco: The Rules of Engagement." It's really chilling.

      In addition, I think you PROVED the point--the US government can do terrible things, but the truth is out there, and readily available. No fear of government erasure of non-official events (or erasure of people).

    5. Re:Everyone except by fishdan · · Score: 1
      Ok, you LIKE this one better, but do you understand the point of the OP was about google and censorship and the countries? I think you actually could be agreeing with the OP -- Waco was indeed a complete FU and violation of the rights of the indivuduals -- but it was publicized and things have changed (although not enough for me). Certainly the US government is not telling Google not to display search results for david koresh waco.

      So if your point was that it's cool to live in a place where the gov't fuck-up make front page news, I completely agree with you -- but then why compare it to the US version of the Tienamen search?

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    6. Re:Everyone except by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    7. Re:Everyone except by shaitand · · Score: 1

      I don't think so. The government lied and tried to cover up Waco the best it could. It simply failed to do so because of the strong militia movement at the time. Ruby Ridge was a similar action and there was a definate path leading to revolution.

      Then Timothy McVey happened and the militia movement pretty much disappeared. I still suspect to this day that this incident was arranged by the feds to discredit the organized, trained, and armed resistance that was forming. Prior to that I knew of a major US state where most of the national guard had prepared to defect to the militia and plans were in place to secure their armories for when they did.

    8. Re:Everyone except by fm6 · · Score: 1
      I don't think so. The government lied and tried to cover up Waco the best it could.
      All governments lie. The question is, where is it safer to call them on it, here or China?
    9. Re:Everyone except by shaitand · · Score: 1

      "but it was publicized and things have changed (although not enough for me)"

      Like what?

      "So if your point was that it's cool to live in a place where the gov't fuck-up make front page news"

      It would be if the truth had been in the front page news instead of the government version. Instead we were forced to find out about the truth in underground videos.

      "Certainly the US government is not telling Google not to display search results for david koresh waco."

      That is why our nation is worse than China now. Previously the government would have done exactly that, and you would not have heard about it. Since the impotence of the protests during vietnam the government has become more and more corrupt while being more open about it. All the while the government pretends it still stands for ideals like freedom.

      If Bush ordered the invasion of an armed religious compound he would be admitting to flamethrowing tanks on TV and patting himself on the back for taking out the terrorists. The chinese at least still pretend the people could do something about it if they found out about atrosities.

    10. Re:Everyone except by Greatmoose · · Score: 0

      Truly you have a dizzying intellect.

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    11. Re:Everyone except by Moridineas · · Score: 1

      Prior to that I knew of a major US state where most of the national guard had prepared to defect to the militia and plans were in place to secure their armories for when they did.

      snooooooooooore.

    12. Re:Everyone except by shaitand · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "The question is, where is it safer to call them on it, here or China?"

      Actually that question really does not amount to much. Where is more EFFECTIVE to call them on it? Here or in China? The answer is that it is not effective in either place.

    13. Re:Everyone except by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Oh bullshit. If you really believed that, you wouldn't waste your time debating the issues. Like all conspiracy freaks, you're in love with your own victimhood.

    14. Re:Everyone except by shaitand · · Score: 1

      I am amazed that someone would blatantly troll using a term like 'conspiracy freaks' while logged in.

    15. Re:Everyone except by Moridineas · · Score: 1

      I'm not the one that used the term, but if EVER conspiracy freak was applicable it was with you! Let's see...USA is going to meltdown at any moment thanks to revolting militias (that you have secret esoteric knowledge of but can't say--*shhh* secret!). McVeigh was a government pawn. Blah blah blah--conspiracy freak. I missed the part that the illuminati and the jews play, care to enlighten me?

      I honestly have a hard time believing any rational adult could possibly believe such things. Then again most of the worlds population believe in a virgin birth of God's son, a desert dweller receiving personal revelations from God, a burning bush being God's manifestation of power, etc. I actually wonder if being a conspiracy theoriest fulfills the same need that religion fills, eh shaitand?

    16. Re:Everyone except by shaitand · · Score: 1

      Please stop trolling. I hardly said anything about the US melting down over secret militias. The organized militias were nothing secret. McVeigh himself was openly a member of such a militia. Do a google search for Michigan Minutemen on google to find information about dozens of these militias throughout the United States. There are many conspiracy theories passed around but that is hardly one of them.

      As for McVeigh being a setup, it is rather convient. Is there some reason you believe that our government who is caught with its hands in the cookie jar again and again is beyond suspicion? There have been dozens of incidents where our government has been caught red handed carrying out real life conspiracy theories. I hardly give them the benefit of the doubt when something looks fishy and I can not believe an intelligent adult ever could.

  4. Oh no by Kijori · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now the government might start using bad data to justify ridiculous copyright laws and restriction of users' rights! But wait, surely no-one would let them get away with that?

  5. It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The BSA was pretty impotent. They achieved only a tiny bit of what they could have, had they had half a clue. Personally I hope they hire more people from the BSA.

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    1. Re:It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling by truthsearch · · Score: 2, Informative

      They may have underachieved, but they've had a significant influence. They've had offices raided by armed marshals and who knows how many disgruntled employees report their employers. They've put millions of dollars into advertising campaigns. The BSA has an office in Washington, D.C. I'm sure it's not just to be near the famous attractions. There's definitely a lot going on. You just don't hear much about it.

    2. Re:It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling by gitargr8 · · Score: 0
      Personally I hope they hire more people from the BSA.


      Don't you think we have enough underachievers in the governmnet already?
    3. Re:It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling by DSP_Geek · · Score: 2, Informative

      You can goddamn betcha the BSA has had an influence. My startup will be a Microsoft-free zone - I can't afford to have my business disrupted by a bunch of extortionate asshats because someone might have slipped up with an Office CDROM, and why go through the hassle of switching when I can do it properly right from the git-go?

      http://news.com.com/2008-1082_3-5065859.html

      So long, Redmond. You coulda had a bunch of seats, but I'm too busy to watch my back for the BSA, and frankly the security holes aren't helping much either. Seeya.

    4. Re:It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Don't you think we have enough underachievers in the governmnet already?

      If more of 'em were underachievers, maybe we wouldn't have the PATRIOT act etc. :P

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  6. I'm shocked! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would have thought they would have went with some script kiddie or long-haired open source zealot, but instead they went with an industry man. Still scratching my head over this one.

    1. Re:I'm shocked! by ROU+Nuisance+Value · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Oh, a bought-and-paid for industry lobbyist in a Bush White House cabinet position! Of course! What was I thinking?

    2. Re:I'm shocked! by broter · · Score: 1

      The point being this is a business man, not an industry man. Many slashdotters have indicated that the BSA is an impediment to the industry.

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  7. Long live BSA by jamesl · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here's a guy who ran a market-leading motorcycle company into the ground in the days of carburettors, coil ignition and chain drive. Now he's in charge of technology for the good old US of A.

    I loved those BSA motorcycles.

    1. Re:Long live BSA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Word. The english knew how to build fine motorcycles. None of that nonsense HD puts out.

    2. Re:Long live BSA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Brits still make damn good motorcycles: Triumph makes some really nice motorcycles, the Daytona 675 and Speed Triple in particluar.

    3. Re:Long live BSA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now now, no need to disparage HD. You might not like their bikes but plenty of people do. I'd agree with the fact that they lag in the technology arena but they're comfortable, reliable and fun to ride. I'm no HD zealot just because I own one. If I was going on a long (Time and space) trip I'd rather do it on a beemer. But for what I do HD fits the bill nicely.

    4. Re:Long live BSA by pedalman · · Score: 1
      "I loved those BSA motorcycles."
      You obviously forgot this bit of trivia about Beezers.

      Everybody thinks BSA is for "Birmingham Small Arms", but it really means "Bastard Stopped Again".

      All hail to Joe Lucas, Prince of Darkness.

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    5. Re:Long live BSA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm - sten guns were inexpensive^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H CHEAP!
      Sterlings - well - not as bad, but...

    6. Re:Long live BSA by sgt_doom · · Score: 1

      Speaking of running companies into the ground, the latest figures out on Microsft is that only 1% of their profit revenue comes from China, yet how many untold billions have they spent on the Chinese market????

    7. Re:Long live BSA by jamesl · · Score: 1

      Profit and revenue are two different things. There is no such thing as "profit revenue."

      Billion what? Dollars? Euros? Yuan? Since they're "untold" I guess nobody knows how many billions MS has spent on the Chinese market.

    8. Re:Long live BSA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmm... and the Secretary of the Interior is Gale Norton! I sense a conspiracy!!!

      - DRFS Rich

  8. It's consistent by ktappe · · Score: 5, Informative
    This administration is all about foxes guarding the henhouse. Considering that ex-oil executives are energy czars and ex-forestry industry personnel are in charge of monitoring the environment, this latest move really shouldn't come as a surprise.

    -Kurt

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    1. Re:It's consistent by TheCarp · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yup, I don't think that they have missed a single opportunity to suckle at the cock of big buisness.

      Lets not forget to add to that list no bid sweetheart deal contracts for hailburton. Installing a big oil consultant as head of afghanistan, tax cuts, defeating net neutrality... doesn't seem to matter the issue, as long as it doesn't mean a bare breast on TV big buisness can just have its way.

      -Steve

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    2. Re:It's consistent by Boronx · · Score: 1, Insightful

      We, the American people are to blame.

      We elected a drunken frat boy to bring honor and dignity back to the whitehouse.

      We elected a man who cavorts with gay prositutes to satisfy our "pro-marriage" bigotry.

      We elected a man who is beholden to Saudi oil money and Neocon insanity to run a humbler foreign policy.

      We elected a man who openly prefers dictatorship (just so long as he's the dictator) to defend the consititution.

      Yeah, there're foxes in the hen house, and we put them there, cheering the whole way. Twice.

    3. Re:It's consistent by techno-vampire · · Score: 3, Insightful
      This administration is all about foxes guarding the henhouse.

      It could also be argued that the administration is picking people who know something about what they're regulating and understand the issues. Mind you, I don't say you're wrong, just that there's more than one interpretation of this.

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    4. Re:It's consistent by ScentCone · · Score: 0, Troll

      Lets not forget to add to that list no bid sweetheart deal contracts for hailburton

      Please post your list of other firms with the personnel, experience, clearances, and other requirements ready to go, right then when needed. Then explain why they would have been cheaper and done a better job, and how the time spent bidding a mixed bag of hard-to-define-in-advance service requirements around through the CBD would have been quicker or ultimately in any way more effective.

      Installing a big oil consultant as head of afghanistan

      You'd rather that country's leadership was from more of a rural, poppy-growing industry? Or perhaps a retired warlord? There isn't much industry of any kind IN that country, so someone with the connections to actually get things working (with a legitimate business sector) in the local economy is critical. And perhaps you're forgetting the multiple rounds of actual, man-on-the-street votes that dictate the staffing of that country's government?

      tax cuts

      Which demonstrably, and directly contribute, year after year, to higher overall tax revenue and the economic activity that continues to produce more jobs. Please post your theory on how raising taxes contributes to employment, other than in government programs.

      defeating net neutrality

      BS. Stopping legislation that would require it has nothing to do with whether or not a provider can be as neutral as they choose. If you don't like the notion of the owner of a network running it as they see fit, start your own network and get customers by telling them that's part of your deal. Bandwidth provided by SBC (or Earthlink, or AT&T or Acme Smalltown Cableco) is not some natural resource: it's a product/service. The person providing the service can do as they please, and you can deal with them, or not. Would you rather the government also told landscaping companies that they have to charge the same rate for a mowed square foot of grass whether their customer is a townhouse owner or the owner of a 500 acre golf course? Let the market decide.

      You'll make more rhetorical points if you don't try to string together a bunch of causality-confused, empty non-sequitors to paint some picture of The Man.

      buisness can just have its way

      So, buy your antibiotics, high-speed graphics cards, textiles, soybeans, airplane engines, high capacity batteries, and rolls of CAT5 from your local mom-and-pop manufacturers. Those tiny companies are always able to get you lower prices, innovative products, and nation-wide availability on demand. Have fun!

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    5. Re:It's consistent by DSP_Geek · · Score: 3, Informative

      After Rumsfeld fucking up Iraq, Chertoff screwing up FEMA, the entire Administration blowing up the budget, FCC administrators selling us down the river to Jeezemoids and junk faxers, and various PR mouthpieces stifling scientists, picking someone who knows the matter at hand would be a freaking first for this bunch.

    6. Re:It's consistent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't agree with all your points, but you make a good argument, so I modded you +1 Insightful. Just wanted to let you know that not everyone mods based on their personal beliefs.

      (posting anonymously so my mod points aren't removed)

    7. Re:It's consistent by coshx · · Score: 1

      crap..that didn't work...posting anonymously still removed my mods (i guess i should have logged out first)

      sorry.

    8. Re:It's consistent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      So, buy your antibiotics, ... from your local mom-and-pop manufacturers.


      Nope, all I want is to buy them from Canada. Oh...

    9. Re:It's consistent by AK+Marc · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It could also be argued that the administration is picking people who know something about what they're regulating and understand the issues. Mind you, I don't say you're wrong, just that there's more than one interpretation of this.

      So it's a coincidence that they are all from the pro-business side of the resource managed? I do see how they could select people in the know, but to only select people from within the industry that had direct conflicts with the exact same government agency they are now working for, and often with personal interest remaining in the industry they left doesn't seem to be filling the positions with people that will fulfull the duties to the best of their abilities. Even if they happened to be the most qualified person on the planet, there would still be some internal conflicts.

      Once or twice isn't an issue, but picking everyone from the same cookie-cutter is indicating that it isn't knowledge they seek, but a point of view.

    10. Re:It's consistent by jahudabudy · · Score: 1

      We elected a man who cavorts with gay prositutes to satisfy our "pro-marriage" bigotry.

      Are you referring to Bush?? Where did you get this from?

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    11. Re:It's consistent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I don't think you understand the statement "foxes guarding the henhouse."

      No one comprehends the issues of henhouses better than the foxes who regularly attempt to defeat them. Both the farmer and fox understand the issues quite well. They are both experts in the field. The question is motive, not competence.

    12. Re:It's consistent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well played, thing.

    13. Re:It's consistent by Boronx · · Score: 1

      They were sneaking Jeff Gannon, a gay prostitute into the whitehouse for overnights. He may have been schtupping Bush, Rove, anyone or everyone, I don't know.

      But Bush loves to rub the heads of bald men (Gannon head is glossy), he's on multiple occaisions and out of the blue complemented men on how pretty they are (Britt Hume during an interview, an aide to the former Canadian prime minister). Plus he was a fratboy, a cheerleader, and went to a prep school.

      This is the only thing on the list that doesn't bother *me*, but it bothers anyone who thought they were voting for the "Family Values" president.

    14. Re:It's consistent by shmlco · · Score: 1

      "...is indicating that it isn't knowledge they seek, but a point of view."

      Okay... but let's look at this from another angle. Let's say you're hiring a department manager and there are two equally qualified candidates for the job. Both have demonstrated an ability to get results. As such, honestly, are you likely to hire the person whose viewpoints on running that department are diametrically opposed to your own?

      You might make the case that having a "no" man is valuable, but from a practical standpoint, is it likely you're going to want the daily battles?

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    15. Re:It's consistent by Valdrax · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It could also be argued that the administration is picking people who know something about what they're regulating and understand the issues. Mind you, I don't say you're wrong, just that there's more than one interpretation of this.

      No, "foxes guarding the henhouse" usually implies people who know the situation but profit from not enforcing the rules.

      The problem with conservative government is that it's primarily run by people who wish it didn't exist in the first place. The reason why everything is so screwed up in the current administration is because it's staffed by people who have such disrespect for the institutions that they are running that they don't bother to do the job right.

      Witness FEMA. Grover Norquist of the Americans for Tax Reform once stated, "I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub." Congratulations. Was New Orleans a good enough bathtub for the people to realize the problem with letting people with this attitude run things?

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    16. Re:It's consistent by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      As such, honestly, are you likely to hire the person whose viewpoints on running that department are diametrically opposed to your own?

      If you are hiring between two candidates for ambassidor to Russia and both are equal except one has traveled extensively for personal reasons and the other has never been outside the town he was born in, would the non-qualificatory issues of personal travel influence the decision? I would think that the person whose personal interest in travel matched with the job requirements of travel would show a greater personal buy in to the position and a greater ability to do the job.

      Just as having someone that has defended the environment for a long time would have a much better demonstrated track record in defense of the environment than someone that worked at pillaging the environment getting a job "defending" it. You can't do the job of protecting US interests if your first priority is to protect the financial interests of yourself and your friends.

    17. Re:It's consistent by DeviceDriver · · Score: 1

      Actually, no. The individuals sent to these positions tend to be dogmatic about their industries. They typically do not understand the need for ANY regulation.
      Business operates on the principle of Least Resource. Nearly without exception, industry True Belivers have been appointed over the last 6 years.

      Recent fMRI studies indicate - meaning a lot of study is still needed - that anyone who strongly holds a dogma fires the nerve center cocaine hits every time they deny reality. Do you really want such people making policy?

    18. Re:It's consistent by greg_barton · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It could also be argued that the administration is picking people who know something about what they're regulating...

      Hey, so why don't we hire pedophiles to protect our children?

      Oh wait...we do

    19. Re:It's consistent by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      I don't agree with all your points, but you make a good argument, so I modded you +1 Insightful. Just wanted to let you know that not everyone mods based on their personal beliefs.

      I appreciate that... but of couse I'd rather you appreciated both the structure of the response and the actual point(s) I was making. However, I'll take the points on form, if that's all I can get! :-)

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    20. Re:It's consistent by X86Daddy · · Score: 1

      The problem is that they have drowned real government functions in the bathtub, but they're still proclaiming that it's alive and well, and charging us more for these "services" every year. If they'd just honestly pursue their smaller government goal, then at least people would expect to fend for themselves and maybe even try to help their neighbors more. Things would have been less bad with Katrina if the people of New Orleans weren't still thinking FEMA was alive and well.

      That's not to say a functional FEMA would have been even better yet, but this "of course we provide these services; you're paying for them, aren't you?" is far more disastrous than actually minimizing government. With the GOP, we get the worst of both worlds! (I'm sure the other major party would muck up the world as badly in other ways though)

    21. Re:It's consistent by laughingcoyote · · Score: 1

      While your points are well-written, I still would certainly like to place some disputes here:

      BS. Stopping legislation that would require it has nothing to do with whether or not a provider can be as neutral as they choose. If you don't like the notion of the owner of a network running it as they see fit, start your own network and get customers by telling them that's part of your deal. Bandwidth provided by SBC (or Earthlink, or AT&T or Acme Smalltown Cableco) is not some natural resource: it's a product/service. The person providing the service can do as they please, and you can deal with them, or not. Would you rather the government also told landscaping companies that they have to charge the same rate for a mowed square foot of grass whether their customer is a townhouse owner or the owner of a 500 acre golf course? Let the market decide.

      Actually, that bandwidth is in effect a utility. In many areas, just like electrical service and POTS, you don't get a choice-you deal with the one provider in the area, or you don't get online. This is a monopoly situation. Now, that situation tends to lend itself to a monopoly easily enough (same reason as electric/POTS utilities do, massive infrastructure investments). There really are only two choices in a case like this:

      Heavily regulate the monopoly. If the monopoly is not only in the business of selling (electricity/phone service/bandwidth) but is also in the business of selling things related to them (light bulbs/content), they should indeed be required to maintain strict neutrality. Otherwise, they can easily abuse their monopoly position to promote their own products.

      Require the monopoly to resell use of its service to third parties, with no opportunity to say no and at reasonable, preset rates. This allows genuine competition to spring up.

      Allowing the "first in the area" to run roughshod over its customers and shut out its competitors is not a free market, it's the distorted market which monopoly situations inevitably create.

      Of course, the third option is municipally-run and financed Wi-Fi-but for one, wifi can't always support the same speed as wired broadband, for another not everyone is set up to use it-and finally, you don't strike me as one that would be too hot on the idea of tax-subsidized net access. Though please correct me if I'm wrong there.

      Sometimes, the government's job really is to regulate what businesses can and cannot do. This is ten times as true in a situation where a monopoly or oligopoly exists. Pure free market is just as much a disaster as pure state-run enterprise/communism--like most situations in life, the best solution is in a carefully-tuned balance of the two.

      I also find the landscaping analogy flawed, in several ways. For one, landscaping is really not a necessary utility for most people. It can be reasonably expected that most people can mow their own lawns. It is not reasonably expected that most people can start their own ISP. Secondly, there tend to be myriads of landscaping services in any given area-everything from the kid next door that'll mow it for lunch money, to Big National Landscapers. This gives consumers a meaningful choice (do it myself, or have a plethora of options as to who does it for me and how much it'll cost). "Do it yourself", as we discussed, is not a viable option for most in terms of Net access, and for many there are only one or a few ISP's in their area. Finally, even if there is only one lawnmowing service in an area, and it's high-priced and low-quality, it is extremely easy for a competitor to start up. This is certainly not the case for ISP's-maybe it was ten years ago, but it's not anymore. All of these call for far closer scrutiny and regulation of ISP's then lawnmowing services. Quite often, different industries require different levels of regulation, and quite often this is called for (hence why pharmaceutical manufacturers must pass far higher safety and quality standards then manufacturers of CD-R's or guitars, or parts

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    22. Re:It's consistent by MadUndergrad · · Score: 1

      Specifically, Gannon was selected for one of the *very* selective seats for white house press. Seasoned, respected reporters give their right arms to be one of the few who get to attend and report on press conferences. Gannon, a known gay* prostitute, was given a spot simply because he supported Bush and reports favorably/asks flattering questions.

      *note, I don't have any beef with his being gay; it just further shows the hypocrisy that characterizes this administration.

    23. Re:It's consistent by HiThere · · Score: 1

      You may be mistaking malfeasance for incompetence. I know that it's usually more appropriate to assume that incompetence is the explanation, but there's really too consistent a pattern here for that to be suitable.

      OTOH, if you do desire to ascribe their actions to incompetence, then they have risen that to such a level that it *should* be punished as malfeasance. (I.e., a heavy felony). I'm not saying that I believe that there's any chance of that. I don't believe it's incompetence. Well, not except on the part of a very few pre-selected fall guys. I expect that they are sufficiently competent that they will never pay any significant penalty for their crimes. (Fraud, and tampering with evidence, etc. are ones that they seem probably guilty of, though collecting evidence would be quite challenging...and pointless since there won't be any prosecution.)

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    24. Re:It's consistent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The problem with conservative government is that it's primarily run by people who wish it didn't exist in the first place.

      Are you trying to say that the power elite ("conservative" or "liberal"), who build thier entire careers on their ability to exploit the coercive power of government, would benefit themwselves more if less government was available to exploit?

      Sorry, man, but that just plain doesn't make sense.

  9. Re:GETTIN MO ASS TEHN A TOILET SEAT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And with the same spelling age.

  10. Business as Usual by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Insightful
    > Former BSA VP Confirmed as Tech Undersecretary

    Sounds like par for the course to me.

    About the same as a Doubleclick hack (Nuala O'Connor Kelly, Chief "Privacy" Officer of Doubleclick) advising HomeSec on privacy.

    Or the Gator/Claria hack (D. Reed Freeman, former Gator/Claria Chief "Privacy" Officer) sitting on HomeSec's Data "Privacy" and "Integrity" Advisory Committee.

    Maybe we should be thankful. Based on precedent, the BSA guy should be put in charge of the Copyright office, or perhaps hired by NSA to... adjust its priorities when it comes to what sort of traffic is worthy of further investigation.

    Anyone taking bets on when Jeff Bezos gets picked to head USPTO?

    1. Re:Business as Usual by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      I thought they were planning on tapping James Wallace (lead council for NTP) to head up the USPTO.

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    2. Re:Business as Usual by Puhase · · Score: 3, Informative

      Had to look twice at that second reference. Gator!? The guys who practically invented mainstream data-mining? I've seen some of the inside of Homeland Security and I was depressed at its prospects. But between this and the fact that they regularly hire sexual predators to defend us,

      http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/000294.php

      this is getting to ALMOST be so scary its funny.

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    3. Re:Business as Usual by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You clearly don't know how these panels work, do you?

      You have people from industry and people from various NGOs. That way you get a full spectrum of opinion, knowledge and exerptise.

    4. Re:Business as Usual by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      > You have people from industry and people from various NGOs. That way you get a full spectrum of opinion, knowledge and exerptise.

      And yet it always seems to be the foxes being asked for their opinions on chicken raising.

    5. Re:Business as Usual by frodo+from+middle+ea · · Score: 1
      this is getting to ALMOST be so scary its funny.

      when was it ever funny ?

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    6. Re:Business as Usual by goldspider · · Score: 1

      "But between this and the fact that they regularly hire sexual predators to defend us,"

      Would you be so quick to damn any organization as a whole if one of their execs turned out to be a pedophile?

      The sad thing is it probably happens more often than we think. That fact, however, shouldn't reflect upon the companies/organizations for whom they happen to work.

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    7. Re:Business as Usual by Puhase · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, but I probably wouldn't be happy if the man running my bank's security was convicted of robbing banks.
      Not sure if you read the link I posted, but in summary, the guy who was THE HEAD of DHS task force for finding pedophiles was convicted of being a pedophile.
      I'm not damning all of DHS. There are hundreds of thousands of hard working people who work under that general banner. My point is that the leadership is unfortunatly appointed by moronic political leaders who would rather give jobs to a friend of a friend then find the right man for the job. That is the point of the original article for this discussion. This criminally inept leadership cripples the work of those who are trying to make a difference as their work is undercut or ignored.

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    8. Re:Business as Usual by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't damn the entire organization (especially not all the low-level people down in the trenches), but certainly all the high-up leaders who have been appointed by this corrupt Administration.

      The problem is, this isn't an isolated incident of just one political appointee being a nutjob/criminal. This is just the latest of many, and maybe one of the more shocking. The Bush Administration has been corruptly putting bad people in positions of power for as long as he's been in office.

  11. Heebie-Jeebies? Hardly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    If this administration was to make an appointment that didn't favor business interests over the needs of the populace, THEN I'd be worried. I'd be expecting a time-space continuum breach or the earth spinning off its axis or something.

    1. Re:Heebie-Jeebies? Hardly by rjung2k · · Score: 1

      What the parent said. With this administration, you come to expect stupid, business-whoring, citizen-stomping moves in everything they do.

    2. Re:Heebie-Jeebies? Hardly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean the needs of the populace aren't the same as those of business interests? Shame on you for even suggesting it, you nasty class warfaring person. Your mother was a hamster, and your patriotism is faulty.

  12. Copyright Lobbyists now part of the US Govt? by digitaldc · · Score: 5, Informative

    From a ZDNet Aug.1, 2005 Declan McCullagh article titled , Copyright lobbyists strike again
    The Central American nations participating in CAFTA must also:
    - Permit software patents
    - Extend copyright protection to "70 years after the author's death"
    - Ban the "manufacture" or "export" of any hardware or software that could decode encrypted satellite TV signals
    - Offer "online public access to a reliable and accurate" WhoIs database of domain name registration details

    It's true that these may be ideas beloved by the Bush administration and business lobbyists, but they have far more to do with special-interest lobbying than traditional notions of free trade.

    In reality, they're simply the latest in a string of victories that copyright lobbyists have managed to accumulate in the last decade--under both Democratic and Republican presidents--through adept work at influencing the arcane process of treaty drafting.

    Negotiating below the radar "We push for that in trade agreements and treaties and bilateral" agreements, Robert Cresanti, vice president for public policy at the Business Software Alliance, told me last week. Members of his group include Adobe Systems, Cisco Systems, Dell, Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Intel and Microsoft.

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    1. Re:Copyright Lobbyists now part of the US Govt? by DSP_Geek · · Score: 1

      To quote from "Ed Wood", McCullagh is not fit to suck my shit. The bastard essentially faked the Al Gore story, then the stupid sonovabitch boasted about it. Nice attempt at slithering back to respectability, Declan, hope you enjoyed the taste of Rove's cock after the entire country got butt-fucked.

      http://www.sethf.com/gore/

    2. Re:Copyright Lobbyists now part of the US Govt? by schweini · · Score: 1

      yea, i'm living in costa rica right now, and that part of the CAFTA (called 'TLC' here) is really scary, amongst many, many other things.

      but the impressive part that Richard Stallman was here on a conference about 3 years ago, and predicted EXACTLY that, and spelled out all the dangers that this implies for the kind of new, yet supposedly booming software-industry here. this is gonna suck.

  13. Re:What if it were all the undersecretaries? by vertinox · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You're getting the heebie jeebies from an undersecretary?

    That is fine and dandy, but one has to wonder if this goes on all the time.

    Sure one undersecretary isn't that bad, but what if all positions like this were dealt in the same way.

    Boil a frog, anyone?

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  14. I'll tell you this much... by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 1

    ...it sure makes me want to switch every computer I can to Linux in a hurry.

  15. Jeez, don't scare me like that! by Creosote · · Score: 3, Funny

    I first interpreted "BSA" in your title as Boy Scouts of America... ... and given the nature of Bush Administration appointments, it would have been about as likely.

    1. Re:Jeez, don't scare me like that! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
      On my honor I will do my best
      To do my duty to God and my country
      and to obey the Scout Law;
      To help other people at all times;
      To keep myself physically strong,
      mentally awake, and morally straight.
      I don't see how you can make that connection.
    2. Re:Jeez, don't scare me like that! by szembek · · Score: 1

      Boy Scouts of America is the only context I've ever heard the acronym BSA used before. I was thinking the same thing.

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    3. Re:Jeez, don't scare me like that! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. As an eagle scout, i can say that the boy scouts stand pretty much against the bush&co idea of "get more for the rich, let the poor help themselves" or "kill anyone for profit"

    4. Re:Jeez, don't scare me like that! by techno-vampire · · Score: 1
      On my honor I will do my best,

      To help the Girl Scouts get undressed.

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    5. Re:Jeez, don't scare me like that! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given the Boy Scouts of America blatant homophobia and hatred of non-Christian religions, along with the obvious gender discrimination inherent in the name, having a Boy Scout as any part of the government would easily give me the heebie jeebies.

      A member of the Business Software Alliance, not so much. At the very least he should have some clue about how the technology industry works. Maybe be a little overzealous on the DRM side, but I really can't imagine the Business Software Alliance being any worse than the MPAA-sponsored representatives already in Congress.

    6. Re:Jeez, don't scare me like that! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, my friend works for the Boy Scouts. They all very much support this president.

    7. Re:Jeez, don't scare me like that! by sconeu · · Score: 1
      A Scout is
      • Trustworthy,
      • Loyal,
      • Helpful,
      • Friendly,
      • Courteous,
      • Kind,
      • Obedient,
      • Cheerful,
      • Thrifty,
      • Brave,
      • Clean, and
      • Reverent,
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    8. Re:Jeez, don't scare me like that! by Valdrax · · Score: 1

      As a former Boy Scout I have to ask, "What part of that would be scary?"

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    9. Re:Jeez, don't scare me like that! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That doesn't necessarily mean that they support the same ideas. Perhaps they are afraid of being labeled unpatriotic, or perhaps they just haven't given it enough independent thought.

    10. Re:Jeez, don't scare me like that! by MadUndergrad · · Score: 1

      The worst of it would be getting up early and eating ground beef and poorly cooked spaghetti at every meal. My god are Boy Scouts bad cooks.....

  16. He a freakin lawyer? by joschm0 · · Score: 1, Informative

    In addition to his role at the BSA, Cresanti is a former senior vice president and general counsel for the Information Technology Association of America (ITAA), as well as a former staff director of the Senate Special Committee on the Year 2000 Technology Problem, FCW reports.

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  17. Parallel World by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 2, Interesting
    A key role of Free and Open Source Software is to maintain a parallel world where we don't have to be the captive audience of greedy and inefficient industrialists. If the FOSS notion could be extended to a wide variety of physical devices, appliances, vehicles, and other everyday items, we could protect ourselves and our future even better.

    Generic "robotic" hardware, computer-controlled devices that do useful work for their owners, seems to be a required next step to convert centralized mass production into distributed mass production. Still the stuff of sci fi, though.

    1. Re:Parallel World by justinchudgar · · Score: 1

      I'm hoping that Sun's decision to open source the T1(niagara) design will be a leading step in this direction. If the greedy suits are willing to partner with community experts in a truly open way, the suits with the capacity for mass production and the community can both benefit. While it would be nice to download the latest development design of the K12 processor and cut a wafer in my garage, I'll be happy if the best current ideas find their way to me via major corporations.

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  18. Sheesh, what a day by theskipper · · Score: 1

    AT&T/NSA domestic spying, junk faxers unleashed, BSA entrenching in gov't, lawsuits galore, fibonacci poetry...

    I need half a bottle of Valium just to read /. anymore.

    1. Re:Sheesh, what a day by digitaldc · · Score: 4, Funny

      I need half a bottle of Valium just to read /. anymore.

      Sorry, your Scientologist pharmacist won't be providing that to you any more because he has found it is against his religion. You'll just have to fly to Canada to read /.

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    2. Re:Sheesh, what a day by LunaticTippy · · Score: 1
      Sorry, your Scientologist pharmacist won't be providing that to you any more because he has found it is against his religion. You'll just have to fly to Canada to read /.

      I've offshored my pharmacist. I don't think they have Xian fundies or Scientologists in Pakistan.

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    3. Re:Sheesh, what a day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, that poetry gets me all riled up too!
      >_<

  19. I'M GETTING ERECT RIGHT THIS MINUTE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Standing up from my chair to get some coffee, that is.

  20. Public Policy by dada21 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The best public policy is found and served by understanding the public. The public is a group of individuals who make individual decisions that best serve their lives now rather than later. This is true as we see that people would rather spend today rather than save for tomorrow, and they know they can live tomorrow by passing on the costs of retirement to the next generation rather than their offspring.

    To put a crony into this chief position is not news, it is status quo. The public is never served by the politicians, especially those who are not voted into office directly (which can have even worse consequences). The public is served by letting people make billions of decisions separately, and letting businesses and individuals find ways to serve those decisions, instantaneously adapting the market to what the public wants at that moment.

    By the time government is ready to react, it is usually too late and unnecessary. Even worse, many of government's reactions are to previous reactions that were too late, making the situation even worse for the millions of individuals making billions of decisions, sometimes unable to get what they truly want because that decision has been judged criminal by previous generations of politicians who never appreciated that the individual's need is best served by the individual's decisions.

    Read F.A. Hayek's many books for more details.

    1. Re:Public Policy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy Hell, man. Are you trying to see how many Libertarian rants you can post to Slashdot in your life? Don't you have ANYTHING AT ALL BETTER TO DO!?!

      I have insomnia right now; what's your excuse?

  21. You were expecting? by mschuyler · · Score: 3, Funny

    What? You were expecting Cowboy Neal to be appointed?

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    1. Re:You were expecting? by pedalman · · Score: 1

      You mean he was an option? Damn.

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  22. Better Analogy by Mateo_LeFou · · Score: 2, Insightful
    This administration is about propagandists writing the dictionary. I just watched the Commerce committee's hearing on Grokster, and it's depressing how often they throw around the term "intellectual property"

    Them I forgive; they're senators, not technologists. But note this well:

    As Cresanti pushes to expand the scope and scale of software patents, he knows full well that the term "intellectual property" is problematic at best and outright deceitful at worst. As rms said, when people use this term they are either confused or attempting-to-confuse-you.

    The senators are confused. Cresanti is a propagandist

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    1. Re:Better Analogy by iminplaya · · Score: 1

      The senators are confused.

      And what should that tell you about the people that elect them?

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    2. Re:Better Analogy by Mateo_LeFou · · Score: 1
      It tells me they either 1)Don't know their senators are confused; or 2) Don't mind.

      1) is often true because until very recently there has been almost no legitimate fourth estate in this country.

      2) is often true because people can be shortsighted. e.g. they'll re-elect an incumbent who has brough federal dollars into the district, forgetting that district concerns are not the business of the federal government/tax base

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    3. Re:Better Analogy by iminplaya · · Score: 1

      Maybe I didn't make myself clear. Politicians want money, power, and all the associated perks. For the most part the winners of an election are successful. So my question is, where's the confusion? We believe their lies and then wonder why nothing changes for the better. It seems that the confusion is on our part. Your number 2 reason tells part of the story. And to tell the truth, I don't believe that the voters are as confused as they are as corrupt as the people they elect. Most use their vote as a method to achieve some higher status than their neighbors. This reasoning goes a long way to explain the type of people we have in high office.

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    4. Re:Better Analogy by Mateo_LeFou · · Score: 1
      But there's an assumption in the reasoning: if the elected officials are deficient w/r/t X, it proves that those who elected them are as well. The assumption is that the democratic process works and that the people are effectively represented/cross-sectioned by the elected officials.

      On the contrary, I think there are power centers that go to great lengths to prevent ordinary people from being represented in the legislature. So that the makeup of the Congress reflects the interests of established powers, not the "nature" of the electorate.

      Incidentally, I think you dismiss the legislators too generally. Some are interested in -- gasp! -- using their power to make human life better. I particularly like McCain, Wyden (D-OR), and Sununu (R-NH)

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    5. Re:Better Analogy by iminplaya · · Score: 1

      Some are interested in -- gasp! -- using their power to make human life better. I particularly like McCain, Wyden (D-OR), and Sununu (R-NH)

      Wiki refs:
      1) John McCain-"In the late 1980s McCain was named in the embarrassing Keating Five scandal in which he and four other Senators provided routine help to Charles Keating, who was secretly manipulating savings and loan banks. The Senate ethics committee's special counsel concluded in 1991 that McCain was not substantially involved in the influence-peddling scheme, but criticized him and three others for "questionable conduct." McCain remained in the Senate and made campaign finance reform a key legislative interest."
      "A bill including criminal penalties for deliberately withholding POW/MIA records from POW/MIA families in violation of the law unanimously passed the House of Representatives. However, as reported by Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Sydney Schanberg, such penalties were stripped from the bill in conference due to the efforts of McCain."
      "He supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq..."
      "McCain has acknowledged engaging in extramarital affairs upon returning from Vietnam."
      I also believe that he sold out on the torture ban issue. Particularly sad in light that he was a victim of torture. Evidently torture is ok if you're on the "right end" of the stick.

      2) Ron Wyden-"On November 10, 2005, Wyden was one of five Senate Democrats who joined 44 Republicans in voting "yes" on Amendment no. 2516, brought to the floor by Republican senator Lindsay Graham, which ruled that enemy combatants did not have the right to Habeas Corpus." We are NOT officially at war. This is bogus.
      "On March 2, 2006, he was one of only 10 senators to vote against renewing the Patriot Act[2], citing concerns about privacy protections"- good for him, BUT he did vote for it the first time around.
      "...has voted against limiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers..."
      "Wyden has consistently voted against limitations on the use of the death penalty"
      "...voted in favor of CAFTA"

      3) John E. Sununu- From www.issues2000.org/House/John_Sununu.htm
      "Supports anti-flag desecration amendment. (Mar 2001)"
      "Voted YES on banning Family Planning funding in US aid abroad. (May 2001)"
      "Voted NO on repealing tax subsidy for companies which move US jobs offshore. (Mar 2005)"
      "Voted NO on funding for alternative sentencing instead of more prisons. (Jun 2000)"
      "Voted YES on prohibiting needle exchange & medical marijuana in DC. (Oct 1999)"-Personally, I'm not sure that needle exchange is really a good idea.
      "Voted NO on shifting $11B from corporate tax loopholes to education. (Mar 2005)"
      "Voted NO on disallowing an oil leasing program in Alaska's AMWR. (Nov 2005)"
      "Voted NO on reducing oil usage by 40% by 2025 (instead of 5%). (Jun 2005)"
      "Voted NO on banning drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. (Mar 2005)"
      "Voted NO on removing consideration of drilling ANWR from budget bill. (Mar 2003)"
      "Voted NO on raising CAFE standards; incentives for alternative fuels. (Aug 2001)"
      "Voted YES on keeping Cuba travel ban until political prisoners released. (Jul 2001)"- We have plenty of our own political prisoners. His attitude is hypocritical. Especially in light of this previous vote, "Voted YES on Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China. (May 2000)"
      "Voted NO on disallowing FCC approval of larger media conglomerates. (Sep 2003)"
      "Voted YES on authorizing military force in Iraq. (Oct 2002)"
      "NO on funding for alternative sentencing instead of more prisons"

      I wouldn't call this "making human life better". To me, it shows just the opposite. It should show that these guys really aren't much different from the rest. Better than some, but not by much. Kucinich(D-OH) is way ahead of the pack in this regard. He's one of the very few with the balls to vote against the patriot act the first time around and against the war in Iraq. Feingold(D-WI) is also up there. I believe he voted against the patriot act and the war a

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    6. Re:Better Analogy by Mateo_LeFou · · Score: 1

      Cool, I'll look into those guys. The ones I mentioned were impressive in the senate commerce committee hearings I've been watching. I'm not an avid follower of the congress, though, so it was a prima facie thing.

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  23. Re:GETTIN MO ASS TEHN A TOILET SEAT by ettlz · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    So you let people shit through you as well?

  24. No heebie jeebies by truthsearch · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Does this give anyone else the Heebie Jeebies?

    No, I'm used to this sorta news by now.

  25. Re:"Does this give anyone else the Heebie Jeebies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shouldn't that be government inaction?

  26. So what? by mgessner · · Score: 2, Funny

    So what? Who cares? Why is the BSA such a bad thing, unless you're into stealing software?

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  27. The BSA...I remember them... by Expert+Determination · · Score: 4, Insightful
    When I tried to sell a bunch of (legal) copies of some Adobe software on Ebay the BSA told Ebay to pull my auction because I was breaking the law. I sent Ebay a pretty snotty email about how ridiculous it was that they'd listen to a third party making random accusations that were completely and utterly unfounded. Clearly they had gone scouting through Ebay looking for all sales of software by their members accusing them all of piracy. My ad had even made a special point of having photos to show the original packaging and I had spelled out the fact that I was ready to carry out a proper transfer of license through Adobe. They didn't even read that far.

    Fortunately Ebay did in fact reinstate my auctions but I was pretty unhappy about the disgusting way I had been treated. I can only hope that the shoot first, ask questions later attitude will be moderated now that this guy has a government job.

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    1. Re:The BSA...I remember them... by geoffspear · · Score: 1
      I can only hope that the shoot first, ask questions later attitude will be moderated now that this guy has a government job.

      Ha! Moderated? More likely you'll be dragged off to a federal prison after you post your item on eBay, and when you prove it was really legal, in court, 2 years later, they'll let you go.

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  28. Re:What if it were all the undersecretaries? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Funny

    That is fine and dandy, but one has to wonder if this goes on all the time.

    You have to wonder if cronyism and giving government positions to connected corporate interests occurs all the time?

    Let me help you out: Yes, it goes on all the time.

    In this sense, the OP was right that a mere undersecretary position isn't anything special.

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  29. Duties of the Office and Suing Public Schools. by twitter · · Score: 3, Informative
    From TFA:

    The National Institute of Standards and Technology, the National Technical Information Service and the Office of Technology Policy all fall under the oversight of the Technology Administration

    So there's one big no vote on making any free file formats or programs standard issue for government offices. That's a big deal.

    People from the BSA have no place in government service in any case. The BSA is an organization that sued public schools systems for copying a text editor. People who do things like that should be shunned.

    Ugh, he even looks like a bit character from the Sopranos.

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    1. Re:Duties of the Office and Suing Public Schools. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The BSA is an organization that sued public schools systems for copying a text editor...

      Let me clarify and finish your sentence: ... public school districts that were found to be engaging in widespread, systematic and institutional piracy of commercial software.

      Now, the concept of copyright infringement (especially in regards to software) might not be a popular one around here, but nonetheless, the fact remains that under current law what they were doing was illegal. Spinning it as "the poor teachers copied a text editor and they got sued by the evil BSA" hardly helps your cause. Instead of these rather misguided "evangelization" efforts, let's all work towards changing existing IP law.

      We wouldn't want anyone to think that you were engaged in some sort of reverse FUD effort, now would we.

      Ugh, he even looks like a bit character from the Sopranos.

      Yes, that's hilarious.

    2. Re:Duties of the Office and Suing Public Schools. by SgtChaireBourne · · Score: 1
      The BSA is an organization that sued public schools systems for copying a text editor. People who do things like that should be shunned.
      On the same note, realise that the BSA is largely financed by and operates for MS.

      Articles like that are probably why MS has been trying to knock off Salon for a while by pouring money into Slate. Now that Bill's wife is on the board for the Washington Post, Slate is now financed by the Washington Post though the staff, editors and policy remain unchanged. The Post is footing the bill for MS' mouthpiece, which by the way is now pretty much the sole source of technology news for NPR. You can figure the odds of NPR now covering any topic which MS would find annoying or sensitive.

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  30. In case you're serious by gr8_phk · · Score: 1
    If you really think "software pirates" are the only ones who need to look out for the BSA:

    Ernie Ball has something to tell you. Not sure that's the best account of that story. Then there are the school districts that have been attacked. They tend to pick targets and make examples of them. Sure, lots of places have "casual" violations, but the BSA comes in and asks you for affirmative proof of license for every piece of software on every computer you have - or else.

    Apparently (IANAL) most people screw up by letting these folks in the door - they aren't the law after all. Some say the only thing you should show them is your middle finger.

    1. Re:In case you're serious by mgessner · · Score: 1

      I am serious. School districts who are stealing software are stealing.

      As for Ernie Ball, ignorance got him. I didn't notice if the article mentioned who turned him in, but that's not important for this discussion.

      I'm glad there's someone to make them legal.

      As for showing them the finger, if they have probable cause, they'll come with the law. Showing them the finger may get them away long enough that you can get them away, but they'll be back with a warrant quicker than you can buy & install legal copies.

      I don't see why any of this is a big deal.

      "So what? Who cares?"

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      "Sometimes the truth is stupid." - Lawrence, creator of Prime Intellect
    2. Re:In case you're serious by fuzznutz · · Score: 1
      I am serious. School districts who are stealing software are stealing.
      Allow me to be the first to remind you that stealing software requires the perpetrator to actually take the software media and remove it from its former owner. I think you mean infringe on copyright.

      Frantically waving your arms and yelling stealing does not make it theft. Now go back to your cube at the RIAA and troll somewhere else.
    3. Re:In case you're serious by gr8_phk · · Score: 1
      "I'm glad there's someone to make them legal."

      I'd almost agree with you on that. The BSA just does enough to scare a portion of their customers into compliance. They need to be more effective. If people could not readily rip-off whatever software they felt like using and had to pay for it, more would switch to alternatives that are actually supposed to be free. BSA needs to be more like RIAA and MPAA to get the word out.

      "I don't see why any of this is a big deal."

      It's not. BSA is pro-business (the B) and the government likes to recruit people like that. No supprise. BSA has a reputation that people don't like, so people get upset about this. You're reading a site that has a heavy anti-microsoft attitude (among many readers), and BSA is practically an arm of Microsoft. A BSA guy in government is like MS getting a little more power so it's not going to go over well on slashdot. I agree, it wasn't really news.

    4. Re:In case you're serious by wizkid · · Score: 1

      Obviously, you work for Microsoft.
        I've worked for many large corp. at this point. They (BSA) are NOT the law, and most the time they go into a place, they don't have just cause. My advice to anyone, if you see the BSA at your door, don't let them in, and immediately, call your lawyer. Almost every medium size school, business or organization out there that you can find will end up with a unlicensed s/w package out there. When this outfit comes through your door, you will end up paying for it 10-20 times over, if your lucky.

      They are $M's hit men, are well funded, and make boatloads of money for $M, at everyone's expense. I am NOT advocating piracy. BUT I'm not going to advocate blackmail or extortion either. These goons are extortionists, and should be a criminal organization.

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    5. Re:In case you're serious by mgessner · · Score: 1

      No, I don't, I work for a private company that makes our own embedded hardware and software. I'm as anti-Micro$oft as you can get.

      Buying one copy of a piece of software and then installing it on several machines is stealing. It's not copyright infringement. It's stealing.

      To whatever idiot made the RIAA comment: I thikn they're wrong too. If you buy a piece of music, you should be able to do whatever the hell you want with it for YOURSELF. (Movies, too.) But making 100 copies of a CD and giving it to your friends is wrong, also.

      Some of you folks need to get it out of your heads that if technology makes something possible, well, then, it must be ok to do it! Nope, life doesn't work that way.

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      "Sometimes the truth is stupid." - Lawrence, creator of Prime Intellect
  31. The answer is... by C-Diddy · · Score: 1

    No.

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    "Me fail English? That's unpossible." - Ralph
  32. Did not RTFA by COMON$ · · Score: 1
    But what is with government officials running technology that know nothing about it? Can a policy paper pusher possibly understand the direction that technology is going?

    I work in the government and this is a serious problem for me. It is just too hard to get things done when your project manager is using words like doohicky and thingamagig. When they do try to BS their way through a presentation with fellow policymakers and managers, it is all you can do to keep from crying at the blatant misunderstanding of technology.

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    CS: It is all sink or swim...oh and did I mention there are sharks in that water?
  33. It's the suit mentality. by aussersterne · · Score: 1

    Republicans are suits. It's what's in their soul. They're suspicious of anyone who's not a player "in business" in one way or another, and they really feel least threatened around PHB types, whom they see as "normal" and "regular" people (i.e. fellow white bread borgeouis suits).

    It's no wonder, therefore, given the current American political climate and composition at the federal level, that the suits are taking over. When the powers that be select a head for anything, they don't begin with a long line of people that have expertise in that area. They begin with "let's gather up all our fellow suits in the private sector" and then, from those mindless, leeching suits, they select whomever has operated, in his/her suit capacity, in the nearest field, at the highest level on the corporate ladder.

    It's a dream market for PHBs, they can all move into the public sector, pad their resumes, gain undreamed of policy power, and enjoy cushy federal retirements.

    The rest of us, of course, get fucked, but then I'm sure the suits would say that if we're the types of people who "get fucked" just becuase the suits are in charge, then we're probably not suits, therefore not "normal" and "American," and therefore deserve to get fucked anyway. They'll be sympathetic to us once we get a job as a middleman in the "service economy," buy an Eddie Bauer hummer, and start holding "power barbecues" at the office as we manage our outsourced Indian underlings. Until then, we're just lazy, or worse, terrorists.

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  34. You brainless moron moderators.... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 0
    That's not a troll. Go back to your dictionary, the Declaration of Idependence, your basic civics class, perhaps some study of ancient Greek or Roman discourse and consider the terms "thesis", "antithesis", "argument" and "discourse".

    Oh wait, you haven't got to Civics 101. That's right, you're still in the basement of your parent's house.

    Can slashdot at least check for the AGE of the moderators before giving out points. I thought you had to be older than 13 to be here.

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  35. no by stlhawkeye · · Score: 1
    Does this give anyone else the Heebie Jeebies??

    No. I've had jobs I wasn't thrilled about either, but they paid well and gave me valuable experience. I refuse to judge this man, his impact on public policy, or any other aspect of this based on Slashdot groupthink about the BSA.

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    "I have never won a debate with an ignorant person." -Ali ibn Abi Talib
    1. Re:no by shrubya · · Score: 1

      Bullshit. Yeah, your personal views are rightly irrelevant if you're a faceless IT guy at EvilCo. They're EXTREMELY important if you're Vice President at a LOBBYING organization. You don't get or keep a job like that if you don't believe what you're saying.

      But I suppose your post is right on par for someone who DOESN'T say what he actually believes. Come on, just spit it out already: "I personally support both the BSA and the Bush administration, so I think this guy is a great choice."

    2. Re:no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      based on Slashdot groupthink about the BSA

      Then base it on your own opinions about the BSA, just like the rest of us are. I guess it feels better to whine about groupthink than to actually form your own opinions.

    3. Re:no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, he has plenty of opinions. Read his web site. He's a fat red weasel who's pretending to be open-minded.

  36. Watch out kids... by Kalie+Ma · · Score: 1

    Don't copy that floppy!

    Google Video Linky

  37. A Free World by twitter · · Score: 1
    A key role of Free and Open Source Software is to maintain a parallel world where we don't have to be the captive audience of greedy and inefficient industrialists.

    The goal of free software is global liberation. The point of free software is to give the user control of their hardware. They must own their software to have that. The list of people who would strip that control includes government as well as private agencies. Everyone should understand exactly what they are giving up when they push the "I agree" button and everyone should know that free alternatives exist. If they don't, your and my options can vanish as bad laws make it impossible for people to share information required to make hardware work. You should not take encroachment lying down. The BSA is morally wrong and should not be allowed to influence the law.

    You can't force people to be free but can spread the word and you don't have to help enslave others. You can avoid the use of non free programs and formats. You can tell people why those things are wrong. You can also complain when forced by others to make a choice between your software freedom and co-operating with them. Yes, you can do all of the above without looking of feeling like an ass. When it's your government that does the forcing, as FEMA did in the wake of Katrina and Rita, they are doing it with your money and this is much worse.

    You can't get around the government. A store that does not support my free browser won't get my money, someone else will. My wife will write them a letter telling them how she would like to give them her money, but can't. They do listen and respond. If your government decides to make a non free program their "standard" for doing business, you are stuck. That kind of lock in is the last hope for non free software makers. Everyone else, including state governments, are turning away.

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    Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.

  38. Bush's Record by roni29 · · Score: 1, Funny

    With Bush's record of 'qualified employees', we can hope that he at least attended 1 year of community college.

  39. He'll fit right in... by dtjohnson · · Score: 1, Insightful

    A BSA guy will fit right in with the rest of the sleazy bunch in the white house and their enron-like supporters. Is there even ONE senior guy in the Bush administration who puts the good of the country ahead of private agendas and interests?

    1. Re:He'll fit right in... by wizkid · · Score: 1

      I haven't found one yet

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      I take no responsibility for what I say. Even though I'm never wrong :)
    2. Re:He'll fit right in... by dbIII · · Score: 1
      Is there even ONE senior guy in the Bush administration who puts the good of the country
      If anyone shows any signs of that they'll get rid of him quicker than they did with Colin Powell and replace them with someone even too useless to find an ambassitor to Australia in less than thirteen months.
    3. Re:He'll fit right in... by MadUndergrad · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but then Bush let slip to Cheney who let slip to Scooter who let slip to Novak that his wife was an undercover CIA agent.

  40. Re:What if it were all the undersecretaries? by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 2, Funny
    Boil a frog, anyone?

    Um, no thanks. At least, not without a good dash of cajun spices, or perhaps some good curry or chinese chilis. Otherwise, the boiled frog won't sit in your stomach and digest very well.

  41. Hit it like the nail it is. by twitter · · Score: 2, Insightful
    A fairly obnoxious AC writes:

    "the poor teachers copied a text editor and they got sued by the evil BSA" hardly helps your cause.

    You are entitled to your belief, but most people would dissagree.

    This is the heart and soul of how non free software is evil and how out of whack "IP" laws are. Most people think of schools as worthy of public support and money. The BSA thinks of them as a source of money and thinks that money is more important than the school's mission. These suits were carried out in the most disruptive way possible. People understand that's wrong. They should also know the intimidation effect of those suits and the massive amounts of public money wasted keeping track of licenses and all that, to avoid more of the same. The case also nicely illustrates why it's wrong to use a non free file format as a communications standard, which is something the public also understands very well now.

    If the BSA wanted to look good, they would leave schools of all types alone. Unlike "piracy", this would not have cost them a thing but a few lost sales. I'm glad they were so stupid because it shows them for what they are and encourages the use of free software. No one likes being threatened. Threatening public education is about the dumbest thing a private company can do.

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    Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.

    1. Re:Hit it like the nail it is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
      most people would dissagree.

      "Most" people? What people? You?

      This is the heart and soul of how non free software is evil

      See, this is your problem. By saying things like "the BSA sued teachers for copying a text editor" you sound like you're desperately trying to oversimplify an issue that is much more complex, in order to get to the "ba-dabing!" conclusion that "non free software is evil". It is the same method used by Microsoft when they claim that "the GPL is viral" - oversimplify your enemies and make them look bad at the expense of reasoning. You sound like a Faux News copy editor talking about the latest "small skirmish" in Iraq. It does no good. What does "the most disruptive way possible" mean? All lawsuits are disruptive. Did the BSA shut down schools? Did they cause children to not learn math? Public schools are run like corporations, and that's how they should behave. It doesn't matter if you enclose IP in quotes, it's still the law. Not a good one, but law nonetheless.

      No one should contest that closed file formats are bad. However, that has nothing to do with this.

      Given the amount of waste and corruption that goes on in the public school systems of just about any state in this country (with my tax dollars), the massive funding figures involved, the relatively small amounts for which these civil actions were settled and how long ago they happened, you really don't have a leg to stand on here.

      If the BSA wanted to look good, they would leave schools of all types alone

      Yes, and how about we create arbitrary categories of non-profit entities that can break certain laws as they see fit? "Hey, if you work for a the United Way, please feel free to abuse the speed limit as needed. The cops should leave you alone". That's insane. How can anyone think like that?

      I can't believe this stuff gets modded up.

  42. Anti-Semitic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Heebie Jeebies is an anti-semitic phrase. Please discontinue using it or you're just contributing to spreading hate.

    1. Re:Anti-Semitic by Valdrax · · Score: 1
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      If it's for-profit but free, you're not the customer -- you're the product (e.g., the Slashdot Beta's "audience").
    2. Re:Anti-Semitic by Copid · · Score: 1
      Heebie Jeebies is an anti-semitic phrase. Please discontinue using it or you're just contributing to spreading hate.
      Where have we heard nonsense like this before?
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      An interesting anagram of "BANACH TARSKI" is "BANACH TARSKI BANACH TARSKI"
  43. Re:What if it were all the undersecretaries? by kfg · · Score: 1

    . . .what if all positions like this were dealt in the same way.

    We'd have things as they are. You haven't been paying attention.

    KFG

  44. Get the facts by deblau · · Score: 1

    There seems to be some confusion over what, exactly, the position entails. I know this is /., and I know people like to jump to conclusions, but get the facts! Look at how the office of Technology Administration fits into the overall Commerce org chart. You see what he's not? (Undersecretary for Intellectual Property) Then read the list of offices controlled by the Technology Undersecretary.

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    This post expresses my opinion, not that of my employer. And yes, IAAL.
  45. Please explain why tax cuts help. by Valdrax · · Score: 1

    Which demonstrably, and directly contribute, year after year, to higher overall tax revenue and the economic activity that continues to produce more jobs. Please post your theory on how raising taxes contributes to employment, other than in government programs.

    I've got a set of questions for you and any other supply siders out there. I'm going to avoid being acrimonious; I honestly want a good explanation from believers in the theory about a few things.

    1) Where does government money go that doesn't create jobs in America?
    2) Why do you expect investors to invest as much money in America as the American government as opposed to investing in overseas and multinational companies?

    To me, it seems that having the government spend the money here would create more jobs here than giving the money to a large company that is offshoring all its labor. Please explain why I'm wrong in your view.

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    If it's for-profit but free, you're not the customer -- you're the product (e.g., the Slashdot Beta's "audience").
    1. Re:Please explain why tax cuts help. by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Where does government money go that doesn't create jobs in America?

      Much of it is spent very, very inefficiently (relative to activity in the private sector). Or, much of it is "spent" as grants, social programs, and other hand-out-ish type stuff that doesn't actually require (or produce) an actual productive job in return for that money. Simple re-distribution of money from a worker to (say) a non-worker does not create a job.

      Pork-type spending (like, building pointless highways in the middle of nowhere, or sponsoring a teapot museum in the Carolinas - really!) may ultimately employ people in the literal sense, but it doesn't focus that money in areas where there's a real, 'natural' demand for the output of those workers. It's very distorting, and creates false spots in the economic landscape.

      Why do you expect investors to invest as much money in America as the American government as opposed to investing in overseas and multinational companies

      I expect investors to invest money wherever it suits them. If they're smart, they'll invest a goodly amount in domestic activity... but there's nothing wrong with investing in operations overseas, because that creates larger, newer, hungrier markets in those other places... and if you're still banking on the US as an innovative, useful place, those other countries will then have more to spend on our higher-end goods and services. Do you really think we're better off running low-end textile mills in this country? Or, are we better off leveraging developing economies that need the stimulation at that level, and focusing locally on more high-end, info/service/brain-type stuff that we do so well? It's not as simple as investing in/outside our borders, because we're completely past that as an economic model anyway. Practically everything we consume is made in China... so why not invest there and have a greater impact in how we operate parts of our companies there, and do everything we can to make Chinese citizens able to buy from us the stuff that we're still better at?

      I think the other thing that's worth mentioning is that "tax cuts" cover a lot of ground. Where it really counts is in reducing the capital gains taxes, so that people who have their cash tied up in something (a second family house, or a pile of stocks, etc) can liberate it and move the investment onto something else (which stimulates growth) without getting killed by taxes. This is much more of a middle class thing than people think it is. Just selling one stock and turning right around to buy another that looks promising... that can clobber you with taxes. No money has landed in your hands, and some other company's just raised the capital with which to expand their business (and thus hire people, etc), but all the sudden 20% or so of the money you were willing to relocate into a needy part of the economy is... gone. That completely kills the incentive to push money into the hands of growing businesses that will make the most of it.

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    2. Re:Please explain why tax cuts help. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The way I see it tax cuts help the economy because people like to spend money. Most people claim that when the get thier tax return back the are going to buy the most expensive toy they can find, and not invest it to try and make more money. If people are buying more, goverments are getting the money back through sales taxes.

      If modern investors are like the investors I have learned about in school they will invest in places they think will give them the greatest return. Besides the already mentioned reason of getting others to buy U.S. products with the money they are now earning, outsourcing has also increased because of the cost of U.S. labor. If you follow the example below outsourceing begins the moment the marginal cost of domestic labor is more than the marginal cost of any other means of doing the same task.

      I belive in a book I was reading reading on Keynesian economics said if the labor observes that the company made anything above operating costs the labor would demand that the money be spread amongst the workers, when the workers recieved higher pay the companies would raise the prices thus creating an infinite loop.

    3. Re:Please explain why tax cuts help. by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Do you really think we're better off running low-end textile mills in this country?

      As opposed to what other industry? Tech?

      Or, are we better off leveraging developing economies that need the stimulation at that level, and focusing locally on more high-end, info/service/brain-type stuff that we do so well?

      You make it sound like all Americans are highly intelligent people who would make great "knowledge" workers. Here's a clue: there's a lot of idiots out there who simply aren't cut out to be great doctors or engineers, and need a simple job to pay the bills and live on. Taking away all the menial jobs gives them nothing to do except live off the government. And it's no small amount of people; after all, half the population has an IQ of below 100.

      I'm not saying we should enact total protectionism and stop importing anything, but concentrating on only the "brain-type stuff" as you put it, and other jobs requiring an education, is a big mistake.

  46. Actually, it kind of makes sense... by djSpinMonkey · · Score: 2, Funny
    You know, sort of like hiring an ex-hacker to a computer security team.

    *snort* :-\

    Oh, man, I'm sorry, I just couldn't keep a straight face through that one.

  47. I'll bite the troll by LocalH · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Dear Word Detective: At a recent party, I had occasion to use the phrase "Heebee Jeebees" to refer to something that gave me a "creepy" feeling. I was flummoxed when half the crowd was nonplussed! (See, you do have an effect!) Actually, I was even more surprised when someone suggested that she thought the phrase was not in good taste because it was anti-Semitic! I am doubtful, but I'm PC enough to worry. -- Chris Kuhn, via the Internet.

    Of course I have an effect; many effects, in fact, some of them rather alarming. Most people find me easiest to take with meals (you can always play with your peas and pretend not to know me), and it's generally wise not to go swimming within a half-hour after reading this column. If dizziness or skepticism develops, go ask William Safire.

    I, too, am surprised that half the folks at that party didn't know what "heebie-jeebies" (the usual spelling) are. What are they teaching in school these days, anyway? Nothing useful, apparently. To quote the Oxford English Dictionary, the "heebie-jeebies" are "a feeling of discomfort, apprehension, or depression; the 'jitters'; delirium tremens; also, formerly, a type of dance." Just like the "wim-wams," I'd say, except the dancing part.

    As to your worries about "heebie-jeebies" possibly being an anti-Semitic slur, the answer is a somewhat qualified "no." The phrase "heebie-jeebies" was invented by Billy De Beck, a famous American comic strip artist of the 1920's, in his popular "Barney Google" strip in 1923. De Beck, by the way, also invented "hotsy-totsy" (a term of approval) and the wonderful "horsefeathers" (meaning "utter nonsense") in his strip. "Heebie-jeebies" must have caught the popular imagination immediately, since the dance of that name appeared a scant three years later, in 1926.

    The invention of "heebie-jeebies" by De Beck was, without doubt, innocent of any racial or ethnic animosity. The only possible anti-Semitic interpretation of "heebie-jeebies" comes from its unfortunate resemblance to the slang term "hebe" (a cropping of "Hebrew"), which is indeed an anti-Jewish epithet. Whether you want to risk possible misunderstandings when you use "heebie-jeebies" is up to you, of course, but the truth of its innocent origin is its best defense.

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  48. BSA,Microsoft and the definition of Extortion by NZheretic · · Score: 1
  49. Re:What if it were all the undersecretaries? by jaredmauch · · Score: 1
    Yeah, it's not like people who have performed wonderful equestrian related activities will end up in charge of places like FEMA either ;)

    I'm glad that it's someone that at minimum has experience in the industry, it may not be the experience that people want/desire (esp here at /.) but at least it's not someone who has no clue what tech is. i've seen that far too often in the front office of various orgs and it weighs on their tech operations/direction. At least there is some level of clue in the field, now the true test is does someone in this role pick the correct path.

  50. Not "this administration" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All administrations.

    Industry loves watchdog agencies: they ALWAYS take them over and use them to limit competition.

    Slashdot is supposed to have a technically-literate audience, but nobody seems to have much systems-level understanding, or at least they don't apply it outside of their technical interests.

    It is NOT an accident that most government programs achieve the opposite of what they are intended to do:

            The FDA kills us by the 100s of 1000s per year. Medicines are safe, but they are too few developed and too expensive.

            NASA is achieving space, but slowly, expensively, cautiously, unsafely, ...

    I recommend "The Systems Bible" if you want to understand all of this. Add "Living Systems" and some of the more modern treatments of the life-like emergent properties of various entities, e.g. government bureaucracies.

    Ideology is surely the worst intellectual tool ever invented.

    Engineering is knowing what can be done at what costs, what the limitations of our tools are, etc.

    I see a lot more ideology displayed in slashdot discussions than I see engineering-level analysis applied to problems such as this one.

    Apparently clear thinkers in the field of engineering continually propose regulations (read 'no testing programming') for an open environment, using emergent-properties bureaucracies to implement their never-tested programs, with the goal of guiding an extremely diverse set of people toward some enlightened state with which they generally don't agree.

    Right, that has a big chance of producing a net improvement in our socio-economic-governmental system !!!

    As a trivial exercise, derive the US Constitution (original limited gov version) from the fundamentals of chaos theory, computational complexity and complex evolving systems. For extra credit, what additions would you have added to this High Level Design document to have made limited gov last longer?

    Lew

  51. slight disagreement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think you are underrating the level of change that really large mass protests brought about. We got rid of both lbj and nixon, and got the draft ended back then. This is significant. And previous to that we at least got a modicum of civil rights to folks of color and other than male gender, at least up to the level that existed, which is at best half assed rights which we "enjoy" now.

    The trick is, it has to be humongous, really really large and they have to *know* that there will be no more "business as ususal" until things change.

    It is possible, but people have to set their priorities. When bread and circuses dominate, or "flipping" real estate to get richer, or other sorts of bogusness like loony tunes magic beans "stock" investing, no, you won't see any significant change. As long as iPods are more important than blackbox voting-no change. As long as hollywood movies and popular music and weird obscure cable TV shows are more important-no change. As long as nascar and bassboats are more important-no change. As long as online reality games are more important-no change in "real" reality. As long as football and eXtreme sports are more important-no change.

    "Fill in the blank" for anyone's favorite past-time to avoid making the hard political decisions or taking action-no change.

    That's the diff between now and the 60's. It wasn't perfect, but we did get a few things done in between amusements. Now, amusements and money grubbing r00l all the time. No (to be fair, very little, some but not much) boat rocking, no "risk" taken.

  52. BSA by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

    Netcraft comfirms it, BSA is dying...

    Someone had to say it...

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  53. Can anyone- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    -go to some random oinking judge and get a warrant and a flock of armed oinkers to accompany them and go on a little raid over to a "closed-source large software company of choice" and get the source code and inspect the internal hardrives looking for illegally borrowed open source code and evidence of ongoing criminal behavior along those lines??

    No, they can't, and you know it, they'd be laughed at by the pig judge and the pigs, because those folks primary jobs are to protect the already rich and powerful, in ANY manner they are ordered to, and anything else they do is far away secondary or below and more along the lines of being a hobby or something.

    Protect the priveleged established status quo at all costs. That's job#1 of the legal system now, it's an expensive protection racket.

    Until that little bit of political and legal uber-hypocristy changes where it comes to "IP" and there is a level playing field, as far as I am concerned, closed source-the creators, leasers, and distributors, are all highly suspect of stealing open source code without honoring the licenses at all, profitting from it, engaging in RICO level crimes to keep it covered up, and using such entities as the BSA to insure they maintain that illegal and criminal advantage in the public political and economic sphere. I would class the BSA even below the **AA monopoly media thieves in that regard.

    The closest analogy is they are mafia enforcer goons protecting their turf, and "enforcing" illegally bribed and blackmailed for so called "law" changes.

    With that said, I encourage people to not even LOOK at stuff that would fall under the "protection" of the various BSA gang members umbrella, yet alone use it or install it "illegally".

    There IS such a thing as cooties!

  54. great - just what we need. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's just like asking the Fox to guard the hen house. Look forward to the legalization of spam.

    1. Re:great - just what we need. by waferhead · · Score: 1

      You must have been away--- They already did that.
      It was called the CAN-SPAM act.

  55. Total gov burden is inversely related to growth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of the enduring, but rarely discussed, relationships in economics is that the rate of economic growth is inversely related to total government burden (taxes and regulations).

    There have been 100s of studies of this over the last 50 years, all reaching the same conclusion. The "Asian Tigers", which had 12 - 20% growth for 10 - 20 years, all declined when their govs started raising taxes and trying to help the economy or society.

    In my youth, a boom was 12% growth. Now, a boom is 2.5% growth. The economy, consequently, is NOT producing enough jobs: look at the trends in price/performance of prostitutes on craigslist, or the fact that hotels now provide hand-written "welcome" and "thank you" cards with a piece of chocolate when they turn down your bed, or that fact that so many street corners in California have people waving signs. Huge wastes of people, all driven by a lousy economy.

    Lew

  56. Slashdot: U.S. government, 4 corruption, 1 health. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    There were four stories today on Slashdot about U.S. government corruption, and one about the government functioning as it should:

    IRS Leaves Taxpayer Data Largely Unprotected. If the IRS is denied the computer equipment it needs, there is more money for the government corrupters to steal.

    This story: Former BSA VP Confirmed as Tech Undersecretary. Another unqualified person is appointed to influence U.S. technology.

    FCC Opens Flood Gates for Junk Faxes. "Under the new rules, a junk faxer could visit your website and call that an existing business relationship."

    AT&T Forwarding All Internet Traffic to NSA?. The U.S. government conducts more surveillance world-wide and domestically than any agency, ever, in the history of the world.

    Today's news from Slashdot about the U.S. government is not all negative:

    FTC Levies Fine Against Big-league Spammers.

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  57. Re:What if it were all the undersecretaries? by symbolic · · Score: 1

    That is fine and dandy, but one has to wonder if this goes on all the time.

    One doesn't have to wonder, because it has been quite obvious over the last six years that the Republican party has some interesting priorities. FEMA, TIA, The Delay corruption, secret prisons, torture, An unjustifiably elevated level of secrecy, laws that clearly favor big corporate interests over the public at large, and A president who feels he is above the law- this appointment appears to be along the same lines as what we've already seen.

  58. Pedantic quote correction by dreadclown · · Score: 1

    "Karloff did not deserve to smell my shit!"

  59. "this administration" by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Try government in general, regardless of who appears to be in charge at the time.

    Oh wait, you just had to get in a quick jab at Bush.. nevermind.

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    1. Re:"this administration" by ktappe · · Score: 1
      Try government in general, regardless of who appears to be in charge at the time. Oh wait, you just had to get in a quick jab at Bush.. nevermind.
      Yes, it was a jab at Bush, but I do not think your claim that all government does this holds water. I do not recall Clinton consistently appointing people to positions of power who had conflicts of interest between those positions and their previous careers. If I'm wrong, feel free to cite examples.

      -Kurt

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    2. Re:"this administration" by GuloGulo · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't you have bothered to check the accuracy yourself before you make assumptions about how much water the statement holds?

      It really bothers me when people like you toss around assumptions based on incomplete information then expect others to correct you.

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    3. Re:"this administration" by Copid · · Score: 1

      Errr... The original unsupported claim was, "It wasn't just this administration. It's everybody." We're talking about a concrete example of "this administration" doing this, so the original criticism is valid. It was the grandparent who made the unsupported claim and the person you responded to was challenging him. Even if it was just a lame tu quoque argument attempting to make any criticism of Bush look like a partisan smear, some specific examples might have been nice.

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