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I Was Young And I Needed The Money
The Escapist this week is running a great article by Richard Bartle entitled I Was Young And I Needed The Money. He doles out the sordid details of his experience developing a never-released sexy text MMOG. From the article: "All we required was some fiendish mind-control system to persuade people to play a text game when they really wanted to play EverQuest. So, that would be sex, then. I'd written a pitch for a sex MUD about five years earlier, but the funding fell through. Now was the time to dust it off! The thing is, sex in a text world has three things going for it that sex in a graphics world doesn't ... "
"The thing is, sex in a text world has three things going for it that sex in a graphics world doesn't ... ""
Imagination. Imagination. Clean hands.
Hey, I'd buy it.
Has been around for ages. Where was he hiding when MU* games were created. I'm pretty sure the first line ever said in a MUD is "hey, cool, it's working!" The second: "Wanna fuck?"
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"The thing is, sex in a text world has three things going for it that sex in a graphics world doesn't ... "
Man am I waiting on the punchline for this!
Funny, when reading the title I thought it was an RPG about being a prostitute. It would be interesting for a change.
1.It's freeform. You don't have to motion-capture every position in the Kama Sutra and beyond, because people can animate it themselves using words.
2.It's legal. You can write about antics that you would be jailed for depicting visually. The word is pornography, not pornotexty.
3.For a basic sex game to work, you need comparable numbers of both men and women. A female-friendly game, by virtue of its having women in it, is male-friendly; therefore, you need to attract women. And hey, guess what? Study after study has shown that, in general, women prefer words to pictures - especially when it comes to sexual fantasizing.
Anyone else get to this line and laugh uncontrollably for five minutes straight?
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Uhh, the guy is 100% naked, he's just sitting in such a way that you can't see any of his business. Thank goodness for that!
And I feel sorry for anyone who uses that laptop afterwards... *shudder*
I wonder when idiot web designers will stop trying to make the web look like a postcard instead of a text document. The article's formatting has got to be one finest examples on how not to design a web page. Custom controls for scrolling? Background that can't be turned off? (white, of course, just to add some extra whallop of razor pain in the eye to the content) Reading window constrained to about a quarter of my screen area and centered like a postcard? Who hires these people, and why? The fact that the article's content is about a text-based game makes the above doubly ironic.
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Funny, when reading the title I thought it was an RPG about being a prostitute. It would be interesting for a change.
I hear EQ2 sucks a lot of dick
Although I found the 'pornotexty' neologism really funny, as a point of pedantry, the word pornography comes from the greek words that literally mean 'to write about prostitutes'. The first media that had the label pornography attached to it was in fact written work.
But you are right. It's legal. ;)
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It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
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...would be for misbehaving Johns.
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The article ends with "Still, it beats the hell out of WAP."
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It should have ended with "Still, it beats the hell out of fap fap fap
i'd hit it so hard, if you pulled me out you'd be the king of britain [bash.org]
That part of the article about sensory deprivation was interesting. The old Infocom game "Suspended" had something similar, and this aspect made it the best Infocom game of all time, IMHO.
Try clicking on the "Text" button.
I'm wondering if that article is some elaborate form of trolling, or what. Even _if_ someone bought a game just to "cyber" (sad as it may be), if I put on my thinking cap and try to think about it with a straight face, it seems like a collection of bad ideas and missing the point by a mile.
E.g., his #1 reason for text-based sex is that it's free form... then he mentions implementing it as a modification of the combat system. WTF? There goes "free form" right out the window.
E.g., his #3 reason is that women prefer their sex in text form. Yes, that means novels and stories, not some automatized spam. I'm not sure if even any guy would actually get off on replacing MUD combat with some spam of "You thrust your tool in." and "You pull your tool out." If anything, just thinking about some automated macro there seems to me a major turn off.
Also I don't know what studies he's read there, because all that _I've_ read points at women being put off by "R U A GRL??? WANNA CYBER???" kids in online games. It pops up again and again as the reason why they're playing a male character.
(Oh, yes, there are women playing online games all right. But the funny thing is, the naked elf chick dancing in the Stormwind fountain probably isn't a RL woman. Chances are higher that the dwarf male with the beard down to his knees or the massive tauren male with a huge mallet are the RL women.)
Basically I can hardly believe that this is the same guy who had the insight to describe the types of MUD players, or create the first MUD in the first place. Oh yes, I can believe that he's seen plenty of cybering on his MUD. Can give one the idea of just making a game around that. But then, didn't they have meetings of MUD players and such? Might give one suspicions when the only ones that show up and are female (again, yes, they did exist) are the ones who weren't playing a virtual prostitute.
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So it would be far more then just chatting "wanna fuck". You would actuallly have to worry about stats. Probably for the male of making sure you stimulate her enough that you don't come to fast. Wonder if male players are disconnected within a few minutes of climax?
It sounds like he was trying for way more then just another adult chatroom. Could have been intresting BUT hard to sell indeed.
Companies got very weird attitudes to sex. Just check phone companies and how they handle porn. THey are happy to rake in the cash from phonesex lines and mobile porn sites but nobody wants to be the assigned to handle them.
But all is not lost. Read the recent article of upcoming MMO's. Naughty America is sex based and I remember another story about an MMO set in London that has sex as well.
I just hope that they indeed have the whole sex/relationship put in as game mechanics. If it is just freeform sex I am gonna suck at it as bad is in real life. Now anyone know how to grind a really big dick?
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You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
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Hahahahaahaha cranks me up!
A note for the tagging beta people: I suggest you need a new tag called "sex-bad-violence-good". This article should be tagged with it, along with yesterday's one about the scandalous "sex scenes" in Oblivion, the shocking hot coffee mod etc. It's such a huge issue. It's the elephant in the living room of games culture. Or maybe there are two elephants. And God knows what they're doing together, but you better not make a game out of it.
- I do not find them appealing in inter-human communications. Sure, I can understand their use in some situations where time is of critical importance (e.g., "pull", "regroup", "heal please" macros in combat), but that's about it. If talking to anyone -- regardless of whether it's on a board, MUD, IRC, whatever -- if the bulk of someone's communication was cut-and-pasted phrases, or macros to the same effect, I'd quickly find that person very boring and uninteresting to talk to.
- Repeated text, macroed or otherwise, does not good prose make. Read your favourite fantasy novel and imagine that all the battle scenes were replaced by loops MUD-like automated text:It would be one very boring book. The sheer unimaginative repetition would get mind-numbing. Which is why good novels don't do that. They find some new and descriptive way of describing each slash, dodge and feint, or skip describing them altogether.
The same applies to role-playing. People who think they're T3H L33T ROL3PL4Y3RZ because they're spamming with fixed texts each time they click on a power, are actually crap role-players and end up just annoying instead of cool or interesting. The first time you see someone's "Moraelin kneels before his holy symbol and prays for the spell of Cure Light Wounds." emote before healing as a paladin, it's cool. The 12'th time you see it, before every single heal, it's annoying.
And the same goes for sex. If anyone tried writing an erotic novel the same way as the goblin fight is described above, I'd venture a guess that it wouldn't actually sell well. And assuming that Bartle's intention for it was to appeal to women in the same kind of way an erotic novel does, then... dunno, I can't predict if it would turn anyone on, but at the very least I can say it would be _very_ different from one of those novels.
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