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Shuji Nakamura Awarded the 2006 Millennium Prize

Mictian writes "University of California professor Shuji Nakamura, the japanese inventor of the bright green, white and blue GaN LEDs and a blue laser, has been awarded the 2006 Millennium Technology Prize. While blue LEDs are considered cool and thus needful things by most nerds, Nakamura adapted his blue LEDs to make a blue laser in the mid 90s. The next generation optical storage formats, HD-DVD and BluRay, are of course both based on blue laser. Also, his white LEDS need far less energy than normal incandescent lamps and can thus provide plenty of opportunity for energy-saving in the industrialized world. But probably the most significant future application for Shuji Nakamura's invention comes in the form of sterilizing drinking water, since the the water purification process can be made cheaper and more efficient with the use of ultraviolet LEDs. This can improve the lives and health of tens of millions people in developing countries."

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  1. leds everywhere by zanderredux · · Score: 1

    maybe someday I can microwave food with some leds instead of that big, ugly magnetron?

    1. Re:leds everywhere by grammar+fascist · · Score: 3, Funny

      maybe someday I can microwave food with some leds instead of that big, ugly magnetron?

      I want them implanted in my fingers so I can find light switches in the dark.

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    2. Re:leds everywhere by Trogre · · Score: 1

      This might be a good starting point.

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    3. Re:leds everywhere by solarbob · · Score: 1

      Mmmm soylent blue food. Yum

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    4. Re:leds everywhere by PhysSurfer · · Score: 1

      Check your basic physics. Nakamura has been instrumental in fabricating LEDs that have small mean wavelenghths (small compared to red). Microwaves, on the other hand, have relatively long wavelengths. Your comment has no relevance to the main topic. Really.

    5. Re:leds everywhere by FuzzyDaddy · · Score: 1
      Actually, GaN is a promising material for high power solid state microwave devices - it might replace the cooker magnetron someday.

      I believe, however, that the magnetron in a microwave is made in china, and costs $6, so it might be a while before it's replace with solid state.

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  2. Hmm... by AsmCoder8088 · · Score: 1, Funny
    So this is who started all those ugly HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray wars?

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    1. Re:Hmm... by solarbob · · Score: 1

      No I think that was Sony trying to have a monopoly

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    2. Re:Hmm... by OldeTimeGeek · · Score: 1
      Damned Sony.

      Not at all like the HD-DVD consortium. They're all free and open - they would never think of creating an incompatable standard!

  3. HD-DVD does not use a blue laser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Since when does HD-DVD use a blue laser?

    1. Re:HD-DVD does not use a blue laser by Jeffrey+Baker · · Score: 2, Informative

      Since always. HD-DVD uses a 405nm laser.

  4. spelling nazi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "his white LEDS need far less energy than normal incandescent lamps"

    "LEDS" should be spelled "LEDs".

  5. This is the type of person... by Khyber · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...for whom the patent system was created. All of his works are absolutely ubiquitous now in our world.

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    1. Re:This is the type of person... by AstroDrabb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree. However, I think we need to expand on your statement a little. This guy didn't just come up with an idea on paper and patent it. He did the _inventing_. Through his direct efforts, society has benefited. A _limited_ patent is the perfect way for society to say "hey, thanks dude!" to people like Shuji Nakamura.

      I don't know if he has any patents or not. I hope he does and I hope he makes a killing off of all the blue laser stuff coming out.

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    2. Re:This is the type of person... by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This was a real invention, and that's indeed what the patent system is for.

      The way it worked in this case was ugly, though. I won't try to describe the patent litigation over the blue LED, but it sure doesn't encourage me to go out and invent things.

    3. Re:This is the type of person... by BJH · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Heh, in this case the company he worked for had patents.

      He had shit-all, which is why he sued them for extra compensation.

      What makes it even worse is the company actively tried to block him from continuing with the line of research that led to his breakthrough, and made the company a Metric Shitload(tm) of cash.

    4. Re:This is the type of person... by NegativeFX · · Score: 0

      Exactly. I mean, where would G.I. Joe be without the blue laser? Under the rule of Cobra Commander and his red lasers for sure!

    5. Re:This is the type of person... by AstroDrabb · · Score: 1

      Don't you just love corporate greed? I know I do :-)

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    6. Re:This is the type of person... by Anopheles · · Score: 1

      This guy didn't actually benefit from the patents - The Nichia Corporation did.

      For inventing this, he got a bonus - not a patent royalty - of around $180. However, he later sued and they settled to give him a bonus of a little over $8 million.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/12/business/worldbu siness/12light.html?ex=1150603200&en=69d5d9638c1ca bfd&ei=5070

  6. Damn! by Zeinfeld · · Score: 1

    Why can't there be a prize for flaming on slashdot?

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    1. Re:Damn! by Joebert · · Score: 1

      There is, they're called "flamebait" & "troll".
      Kinda like winning a bag of cow manure, only, not being a gardener.

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  7. frickin blue lights! by kisrael · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hate those blue LEDs that are on every damn bit of electronics these days. So many manufacturers don't bother to tone it down, so you have all these power indicators that can light up the damn room. Especially irritating if they're flashing, like when my laptop is suspended.

    Oh, and backlit cellphone keypads, blue? Worst idea ever. Blue is the about the hardest color to get your eyes to focus on.

    So many designers have no sense of aesthetics. They just go with the trend du jour.

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    1. Re:frickin blue lights! by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      The Gateway FPD2185 widescreen LCD has the option to dim / put in night mode the blue led that makes the power button glow.

    2. Re:frickin blue lights! by chemystery · · Score: 1

      I find most of the time that red LEDs are much more pleasing than those nasty blue LEDs all over consumer electronics stuff. I think the reason why so many manufacturers put those god awful things in is because it doesn't require any design work to make it "fit" (and think: 'lower costs, too!'). "Oh, we'll just use lots of blue LEDs and surround it with as much faux silver as we can... that'll make it look futuristic and cool!"

    3. Re:frickin blue lights! by kfg · · Score: 2, Funny
    4. Re:frickin blue lights! by kisrael · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that's the trick to feeling good about your shiny new hardware...

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    5. Re:frickin blue lights! by ContraBassBlack · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I keep duct tape over the blue LEDs on my Altec Lansing subwoofer and Linksys phone adapter, but they still light up the entire room.

    6. Re:frickin blue lights! by kfg · · Score: 4, Funny

      It ain't really hardware yet 'til it's got some duct tape on it. 'Til then it's just a poser toy.

      KFG

    7. Re:frickin blue lights! by ystar · · Score: 1

      He's not responsible for which lights get put in what devices. Don't buy the gadgets if you don't like them, and if there aren't alternatives then complain to motorola or dell or whoever. Personally I don't find it a problem (although on my Antec Sonata case I just disconnected the headlight LEDs from the mobo when it was in my dormroom.) I find LED tech of ANY color to be awesome; my full praise goes to Nakamura's ultra-hard-rocking ingenuity.

    8. Re:frickin blue lights! by MachDelta · · Score: 1

      The only bit of blue gear I really hate is the reciever on my Logitech z680's. I don't mind the power indicator... its the bloody display, and its BLINDING blue backlight. ARGH! The thing is im-friggin-possible to read unless you're two feet away and staring at it head on. And at night (sometimes I listen to podcasts before bed) it lights up my whole damn room. Sucks, but I gotta live with it. *Sigh*

      Other than that though, none of my blue LED goodies (and I seem to have a lot... cases, thumb drives, monitors, yeesh...) none of them really bother me. A lot of them actually look pretty spiffy IMO. Even my cell phone which does happen to have a blue backlight for the keys... its nice and crisp, looks great! There's nothing wrong with the color really, as long as its used in moderation.

    9. Re:frickin blue lights! by springbox · · Score: 1
      This seems to be a common complaint from people around here. Whats funny is that I went and replaced my power/disk lights on my case a while ago with a blue light for the power indicator (it ended up being a fairly weak aqua color, which is ok) and a ultra bright (didn't know about the ultra bright part when I bought it) white light for the disk access indicator. I usually have the computer in my room and leave it on overnight to do video processing, which as you can imagine, requires a lot of disk access. Because of this the computer acts like a miniature strobe light dark rooms. It will get your attention, but I really don't think it's so bad, since I've always been able to sleep without any problems with the white light flashing constantly.

      So basically, I think it's only a problem if you stare directly into the bright lights, which I don't recommend of course. What exactly are you doing with these devices that's causing you so much irritation? (Most cell phone keypads that I've seen are a bright white/blue, not pure blue.)

    10. Re:frickin blue lights! by Stormwatch · · Score: 1
      red LEDs are much more pleasing than those nasty blue LEDs all over consumer electronics stuff
      See? Even more evidence that the Dreamcast was better than the PS2!
    11. Re:frickin blue lights! by skids · · Score: 1

      Actually, the tape idea can be done right: my bedroom PC audio system has an obnoxiously bright LED that puts out an amazing amount of light for being only 1/16" wide. So much that it can disturb one's sleep. So I taped it with some "labelling tape" which is a opaque colored thick plastic tape -- I used the same color as the LED and it looks just fine. The tape is translucent enough that the LED shines through just enough to tell that it is on.

      You can get the labelling tape in any decent stationary store.

    12. Re:frickin blue lights! by Eideewt · · Score: 1

      I have a friend with a computer so bright that its lights are visible outside his house on his garage. Ridiculous.

    13. Re:frickin blue lights! by Kuvter · · Score: 1

      I love the color blue, yet I have to agree with you. My friend has speakers with a blue LED light on them that is so bight. The speakers are next to the monitor so this light is shining right in your eyes and it's just annoying.

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    14. Re:frickin blue lights! by Lazarian · · Score: 1

      You might be able to get by the problem of the too-bright LED by soldering a resistor (I've found one about 330 ohms works well in a lot of cases) in series with the LED. As for the dim blue one, it may be one that may require a higher voltage to work well. The blue ones I have specify 5 volts as nominal, while other types like red, green or amber need somewhere around 3. Depending on the type, they may be under or over driven. The blue one may be only getting 3 and glowing dim, but the white one may be getting too much voltage.

    15. Re:frickin blue lights! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, UK (European generally?) Dreamcasts had orange LEDs but your point stands.
      That area of the DC is pretty flexible actually, I've seen daft multi-LED mods that cycle through every colour you can get.

    16. Re:frickin blue lights! by bigpicture · · Score: 1

      If you think blue is hard to focus on, you should try blue on red, or red on blue, where the wavelengths are at the opposite ends of the light spectrum. Black on yellow is supposed to be the easiest on the eyes, since yellow is mid spectrum.

  8. Not to minimize his work... by DragonWriter · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...which is phenomenal and well-deserving of the prize, but why the comparison to incandescent bulbs for large-scale energy savings? Flourescent lightss, including full-spectrum lights that produce better quality light than most incadescent bulbs, are much more efficient than incandescents, too, for their output; my understanding is that White LED lights are now somewhat more efficient even than flourescents, which is the real reason they offer a big step forward in terms of large-scale energy savings (plus, they are much easier to make very small, which is good for lots of applications where flourescent lights aren't really well suited, but that's not going to be the source of enormous energy savings.)

    1. Re:Not to minimize his work... by atomicstrawberry · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's not just the saving in energy consumption, either. LED-based lightbulb alternatives generally have lifespans in the tens of thousands of hours, compared to around 1000 hours for a good quality incandescent bulb. Most of the LED bulbs that I've seen have around 50,000 to 60,000 hour lifespans, which if you do some quick maths will work out to around 6 years of constant use. They're a lot more expensive than a single incandescent bulb, but if you actually sit down and figure everything else, the equivalent number of standard incandescent bulbs will cost you more. That's not even touching on the significant power reduction, either.

    2. Re:Not to minimize his work... by misleb · · Score: 1

      I don't really care for the fluorescent bulb replacement for the house. They don't look quite right. Maybe I am just used to the yellowish glow of incandescent, but fluorecent lights are just too harsh. Even the ones that are supposed to be "soft." I imagine LEDs would be simlar if my LED flashlight is any gauge.

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    3. Re:Not to minimize his work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The durability and ability to use low voltages for LED systems are both great qualities of LED lights. Flourescents often contain mercury and have a definite short lifecycle. Ballasts, which are relatively expensive, also have a lifecycle that is pretty low when compared to LED fixtures. Not to mention they suffer from 50/60 Hz flicker that drives some people really mad. LED fixtures should make a great improvement to the tone of light within buildings. I suggest you look at the Lighting of the 7E7 and A380 (I think) aircrafts and see what kind of atmosphere is possible with LED lighting. The demo models have some pretty impressive tones.

    4. Re:Not to minimize his work... by DragonWriter · · Score: 1
      I don't really care for the fluorescent bulb replacement for the house. They don't look quite right. Maybe I am just used to the yellowish glow of incandescent, but fluorecent lights are just too harsh. Even the ones that are supposed to be "soft." I imagine LEDs would be simlar if my LED flashlight is any gauge.
      Though this is drifting a bit afield, I personally like the ones that are enclosed in an outer frosted casing, particularly the ones I have in recessed ceiling floodlights in my house (the bare ones, even with a shade, do seem rather harsh. And I especially love the full-spectrum flourescent desk lamp I have. But, yeah, I understand why some people don't like most CFLs; when I had an apartment without recessed fixtures they werent as nice, though -- living in the CA central valley -- the twin advantages of reduced waste heat and reduced energy use, with long life being an extra boost, sold me anyway.
    5. Re:Not to minimize his work... by KingPrad · · Score: 1

      Heh, I have the opposite opinion of flourescents. I've put them all over my apartment and love the light quality (as in color and brightness). I notice regular incandescent bulbs now by their (to me) gloomy yellow light. The natural light incandescent bulbs are different of course. But I really don't like those standard yellow-light bulbs.

      I think we can both agree that the range of choice available is a great thing. You like one type, I like a completely different type, and for various purposes there are two dozen different varieties.

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    6. Re:Not to minimize his work... by ystar · · Score: 1

      LEDs also don't emit toxic gas when smashed (although their disposal probably isn't super friendly to the environment).

    7. Re:Not to minimize his work... by kfg · · Score: 1

      I've been using LEDs for indoor lighting for something like ten years now, but I don't generally use them "naked." I usually make Japanese style laterns with them and can use various paper colors as a filter to get something other than harsh white light, which I reserve for spot lighting where needed.

      One of the things I like best about LEDs is that their low power use means it's really practical to go wireless with batteries, without the mess inherent with oil lamps (which I still love, in part for the warm, yellowish glow that even an incandescent electric bulb can't match. I like fire . . .but, I don't like oily soot).

      KFG

    8. Re:Not to minimize his work... by NosTROLLdamus · · Score: 3, Funny

      One of my friends emits toxic gas when smashed.

    9. Re:Not to minimize his work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fluorescents must use inert noble gases. Do you refer to the tiny quantity of mercury as toxic gas?

    10. Re:Not to minimize his work... by Bo'Bob'O · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I love daylight florescent lights, I use them at my desk and, to many people's surprise, in my bedroom. Once you get used to the blue, I find it much more pleasant then the yellow tint of the standard kind, especially to augment daylight. Fact is though, that even their ability to render colors properly is inferior to a plain old generic incandescent light bulb (http://www.sizes.com/units/CRI.htm). The color temperature rating on florescent and even gas discharge lamps is just an approximation of true blackbody color temperature. This is why even budget conscious retail and food chains still will have at least incandescent spot lighting, things just look better under it.

      As a professional stage lighting designer looking for rich colors and as a person looking to save on cooling and power costs at home, I can't wait for LEDs to keep getting cheaper, brighter, and more efficient. Unfortunately being that white LEDs are based on phosphors in somewhat the same way as CRTs and fluorescents are, I don't think we aren't going to see the end of incandescents quite yet.

    11. Re:Not to minimize his work... by Fred_A · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, save some bread ! Buy flourescents !

      (sorry)

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    12. Re:Not to minimize his work... by Fred_A · · Score: 1
      although their disposal probably isn't super friendly to the environment
      Not to mention their manufacture which as with all semiconductors is really icky.

      I don't know about the impact of fluorescent tubes (or conventional incandescent lamps for that matter) though.
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    13. Re:Not to minimize his work... by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 1

      The problem for me is the flicker. However, this can be somewhat alleviated by taking advantage of the two out of phase lines you have coming in from the mains, although it has to thought of during construction.

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    14. Re:Not to minimize his work... by z0rc · · Score: 1

      Another huge advantage of LED's over fluorescents:

      LED manufacture uses far less dangerous chemicals. While LED's require small amounts of adulterants to manufacture (typically rare earth metals) All fluorescents use mercury vapor in small amounts to create light. If the old fluorescent bulbs are not handled / recycled correctly this mercury will get released to the environment.

      Half of the mercury in the waters of the earth is from human activities.

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    15. Re:Not to minimize his work... by iamlucky13 · · Score: 1

      I did some research on this a while back. First off, the gas in fluorescents is not a problem. It's a mixture of noble gasses so it's non-reactive. The only issue is that in really high concentrations it will displace oxygen in your lungs so you suffocate (Trivia: the cure is to hang upside down, since argon is heavier than air and can settle in the lungs). Some lamps may contain PCB's or other nasty toxins in the ballasts, but not in the bulbs, and not in compact fluorescent lamps. The primary chemical of concern in fluorescent lamps is mercury.

      According to the EPA, the amount of mercury in one compact fluorescent bulb is less than the amount released as an impurity in the coal burned to provide the extra power for the equivalent amount of lighting (brightness and life) from incandescent bulbs. In Oregon, for example, this means that household users are allowed to dispose of fluorescents in the trash, although I believe large-scale users are legally required to send them to disposal centers.

      The real advantages of LED's over compacts are potentially longer life, incrementally better efficiency, and the fact that they are really tough to break. The current problem that I'm aware of is that large enough LED's to replace fluorescents actually have really poor efficiencies and tend to burn themselves up. That's part of why you typically see them clustered.

    16. Re:Not to minimize his work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which one? I want names, dammit!

  9. Deserving by jet_silver · · Score: 4, Informative

    Shuji Nakamura got boned by his employer Nichia, and it's got to feel sweet for him that he's getting recognized for his work anyway.

    "The court actually valued Nakamura's contribution to the company at 60.4 billion yen, based on Nichia's sales and the revenue that it might theoretically have received from licensing a key patent relating to the epitaxial growth of LED material."

    http://www.ledsmagazine.com/articles/news/2/1/5/1

    1. Re:Deserving by kfg · · Score: 1

      My uncle Al got boned by his department head once upon a time. This led to his getting boned by the Nobel Committee, despite the fact that uncle Al, like Nakamura, was given a settlement (out of court) on the royalties and a public statement asserting that he was rightful codiscoverer, published in the NY Times.

      The Nobel Committee has never recognized the error, but at least ten years before he died he received the Rutgers Medal from the university at which he had done the research, from which he gained some satisfaction.

      Anyone interested in how one can get boned in the sciences might find the book "Finding Dr. Schatz" interesting, an "as told to" book finished after his death last year by coauthor Inge Auerbacher (I Am a Star-Child of the Holocaust, Beyond the Yellow Star to America, and Running Against the Wind; also worth reading):

      Finding Dr. Schatz

      KFG

    2. Re:Deserving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it was all his idea and work, what was stopping him from developing it himself in secret?

    3. Re:Deserving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      His contract. Just like every other contract out there these days. If you're employed, your contract probably says that everything you think say or do belongs to the company, 24/7, even if they only pay you for 8 hours 5 days a week.

      I got lucky, the HR dude at my job was impressed enough with my credentials and skill to let me "edit" the contract a bit. Most people aren't, whether it's through HR droidism (Thats our standard contract, you can't change that!) or just being an asshole (Stupid peon, you should be licking my shoes to repay me for basking in this company's glory!)

  10. I love the white LED's by Freaky+Spook · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A few years ago I invested in a white LED headlight/torch for when I would go camping.

    I got almost 2 years out of a set of 3 AAA batteries, the light itself provided excellent light at night and stayed bright up until the batteries were noticably dying.

    It was one of the most practical investments I ever made.

    1. Re:I love the white LED's by henriquemaia · · Score: 1

      I agree. And these headlights are much cheaper now that they were then. A must have gadget.

    2. Re:I love the white LED's by misfit815 · · Score: 1

      Not to mention that the entire caving community owes the man a debt of gratitude. Lighter, whiter, and brighter than our old headlamps, and insane battery life to boot.

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  11. Preach it, brother! by SIGBUS · · Score: 1

    Un-toned-down blue LEDs are a pet peeve of mine, too... as an example, my old Shuttle SK41G, a small-form-factor PC that would have otherwise made a decent MythTV box, has this incredibly frickin' bright blue power indicator.

    Shuttle must have learned the lesson, because my new SN21G5 cube has much more pleasant indicators on the front panel - although the power light is still blue, it isn't obnoxious.

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    1. Re:Preach it, brother! by Jeffrey+Baker · · Score: 1

      My Shuttle box actually has a BIOS setting for the LED level (including completely off). But I agree it's annoying. I once bought a cheapo toaster at Target, unpacked it, and found that it had an ALWAYS ON blue LED. Naturally I returned it.

    2. Re:Preach it, brother! by timeOday · · Score: 1
      Un-toned-down blue LEDs are a pet peeve of mine, too... as an example, my old Shuttle SK41G, a small-form-factor PC that would have otherwise made a decent MythTV box, has this incredibly frickin' bright blue power indicator.
      That's what electrical tape is for.
    3. Re:Preach it, brother! by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 3, Funny
      ...has this incredibly frickin' bright blue power indicator...

      Duct tape, my friend. Duct tape. Cut it into little tiny bunny shapes and paste it over the indicators. Problem solved.

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    4. Re:Preach it, brother! by jbrader · · Score: 1

      You're telling me. I bought a cheap alarm clock at radio shack and the screen is lit by blue leds bright enough to read by. Nothing like a floodlamp next to your head while you're sleeping.

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    5. Re:Preach it, brother! by sisukapalli1 · · Score: 1

      That's what I did for my TV... The green LED power light was on the front of the LCD panel and was impossible to ignore -- so, I put on a small, black tape over it. The tape itself is not noticeable, so, I can watch movies without the LED looking like a flashlight.

      S

  12. UV leds suck for sterilization by deglr6328 · · Score: 4, Informative

    "But probably the most significant future application for Shuji Nakamura's invention comes in the form of sterilizing drinking water, since the the water purification process can be made cheaper and more efficient with the use of ultraviolet LEDs. This can improve the lives and health of tens of millions people in developing countries."

    This is absurd. No one with even the slightest clue about such things would ever make such a statement. Nakamura's blue and UV GaN/InGaN/AlInGaN leds and laser diodes are great but they will not be used for this purpose. The all emit in the near UV (350 nm or greater) this sucks for killing microorganisims. You want to cause a kink in a bacteria's dna by dimerizing adjacent thymine molecules, thus inhibiting replication. The germicidal efficacy curve which describes this phenomenon peaks at 260nm way below any LED with any kind of reasonable efficiency. A tenuous mercury plasma in a quartz bulb however, will blast out something like over 80% of its light right at this wavelength! There is no way you are going to beat the hugely efficient and dirt cheap germicidal uv lamps already on the market any time soon.

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    1. Re:UV leds suck for sterilization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you. Couldn't have laid out the optics better, but should add that the major problem with back-country water systems remains filtration--it's not all biohazards out there. I've not seen in 40 yrs of water-quality work any UV system which could work well to kill biohazards which didn't load up to failure. While these LEDs are very nifty for our physics and cs fun, they're not much use for clean water. That is better left to electrons, ozone and high-intensity quartz UV. With LOTS of filtration. And keep your ph adjusted accordingly...

    2. Re:UV leds suck for sterilization by njh · · Score: 1

      I'm glad you wrote this, that was my first reaction too. When I first saw UV LEDs, sterilization was my first thought, as the UV-C lamps are quite expensive. But I looked up the curve and went, bah. The big problem with the UV-C lamps is that they are expensive and fragile, perhaps someone will work out a way to make them cheaper and more robust (diamond film perhaps?). I doubt LEDs will ever be as efficient as gas discharge though.

      The claim about LEDs being more efficient that light bulbs is also rather silly, as CFL are much more efficient, and are so cheap/lumen these days that there is little reason not to use them.

    3. Re:UV leds suck for sterilization by njh · · Score: 2, Informative

      And then I did some real research and found that
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminum_gallium_nitr ide gives down to 250nm
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminum_nitride gives down to 210nm

      diamond has a band gap of 6.4eV, which, if my physics is correct, gives an LED with an emission frequency of E = hf,
      You have: c / (6.4eV /h )
      You want: nm
                      * 193.72529
      so assuming we can solve the materials engineering, perhaps UV sterilisation LEDs aren't impractical (I suspect that we'd have to make the case out of quartz to survive this kind of radiation!).

    4. Re:UV leds suck for sterilization by CrazyMik · · Score: 5, Informative

      There are some companies working deep UV LEDS. Check out this article on a company called SET Inc (http://www.s-et.com/). They make LEDS that emit down to 250 NM, and in addition to water purification, these LEDS could be used like fluorescent tubes to excite phosphors for lighting.

      A more detaile article, written by me, can be found at:
      http://www.mdatechnology.net/tech_update.aspx?id=6 0
      Click on the article "Light Work" - the direct link was not working...

      or a dryer more technical description:
      http://www.mdatechnology.net/techsearch.asp?articl eid=573#listing/

    5. Re:UV leds suck for sterilization by budgenator · · Score: 1

      just remember those guys at emperor aquatics are interested in pathogen control in an aquarium or koi pond without killing the livestock, for plain drinking water it's hard to beat a mechanical filter followed by good ol' bleach or boiling.

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  13. Get Al Gore To updated his presentation.. by x1n933k · · Score: 2, Funny

    Call his agent. I'll send him an email once the sun recharges my Powerbook's battery.

  14. probably not... by skids · · Score: 1

    But within several years time we'll probably find appliances shifting over to LED interior lighting. It'll be great once LEDs overtake flourescents in power efficiency, which we are on the cusp of now -- by the time I'm 80 I hope to have totally forgotten how to change a lightbulb.

    1. Re:probably not... by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 4, Interesting

      All the new traffic lights in Victoria (Aus) are built with LED's now. You can tell the difference -- because they use the same switch gear as before, the time lag built in to the control systems to let the incandescents glow down manifests as a few milliseconds of all-lamps-off. Takes a moment to get used to it, but you're very aware of lights changing -- I think it's safer that way, myself. I think it's done with filters over those brilliant white LEDs. We also use variable speed limit signs built with switching arrays of LEDs in crowded shopping areas, used to switch speeds according to traffic conditions & time of day. So there's a good application in use today -- lowering road aggro and maybe even saving a life or two, while lowering energy costs at the same time. High-class geekery, that, and one worth the round of applause.

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    2. Re:probably not... by Lord+Prox · · Score: 0

      I'm glad this guy got acknowledged for his bright idea.
      ba-dum dum. Couldn't.... resist..... pun.




      Debt help

    3. Re:probably not... by o0Buddha0o · · Score: 0

      Much the same in NSW (Aus). I've noticed quite a few new ones in Penrith.

    4. Re:probably not... by Pink+Tinkletini · · Score: 1

      Same story here in NYC, where our "traffic lights" have been LEDs for several years now. Not that we pay any attention to these things, anyway.

      As for those yellow things hanging from poles in the middle of the street, I don't know what they use. Frankly I don't think it'd make a difference if the city switched them all off at once.

    5. Re:probably not... by Biogenesis · · Score: 1
      Why would they build them with filters? I've only seen a couple of new traffic lights around Sydney to use them, and both of them have used red/green LEDs (unless they were really sneaky and put a small filter over each LED individually. Likewise the signal lights used on the Cityrail network are being replaced with LEDs and these are individual reds/greens too. The guard lights (on the station platforms) are an array of white and blue (they replace white globes with Fresnel lensing) for some reason, but still they aren't filtered individually.

      Anyway, I find them to be a little *too* bright at times, not strictly a bad thing for seeing the signals, but they can be fairly distracting when you're blinded by a green light and subsequently don't see the pedestrian in black running across the road in front of you. No doubt they over-engineer them to be too bright so that they have some give when it comes to replacing them (ie, they can let more LEDs die before replacement. Yes they *do* die on these things, they're probably a bit over-driven or stressed by the elements).

    6. Re:probably not... by Alioth · · Score: 1

      The interesting thing about LED traffic lights in Britain, is they actually simulate the glow down of the old incandescent! Instead of going from on to off instantly, the LEDs are dimmed over a period of about half a second to give the effect of the old incandescent lamps. They don't bother doing this for the turn on though (presumably because the turn on even with an incandescent is almost instant).

    7. Re:probably not... by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 1

      Turn-on of incandescents is not instant. It's almost unnoticeable except with very high power incandescents (such as stage lights), but even for low power incandescents, it is enough to make a subconscious difference. I believe studies into benefits of LED brake lights showed that the instant turnon of LED brake lights was equivalent to a full car length's worth of reaction time at highway speeds.

      Also, at least in the past, while LED traffic lights do save power, their primary benefit has been their long lifetime. The labor cost of replacing a traffic light bulb is nearly the cost of even the new LED replacement bulbs, so even at 2-3 times the initial purchase price, they pay for themselves in labor alone within 2-3 incandescent bulb change periods.

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    8. Re:probably not... by Alioth · · Score: 1

      I know that. That's why I said "almost instant".

    9. Re:probably not... by RESPAWN · · Score: 1

      You can tell the difference -- because they use the same switch gear as before, the time lag built in to the control systems to let the incandescents glow down manifests as a few milliseconds of all-lamps-off. Takes a moment to get used to it, but you're very aware of lights changing -- I think it's safer that way, myself.

      That's because people in Australia are apparently actually taught how to drive. When I was back in New Orleans last month, I think I counted 6 or 7 close calls when driving through intersections where the power had not yet been restored. People seem to think that a light being "off" means that they should blow through it at top speed instead of proceeding with caution after coming to a complete stop. I've seen similar behavior here in Atlanta, leading me to conclude that drivers in the American South are basically taught exactly jack and shit. (My own driving test in Arkansas consisted of driving around the block in a residential area with no traffic, however I did learn good traffic light behaviour as it was not uncommon to happen upon a nonworking traffic device in the rural areas where i grew up.)

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    10. Re:probably not... by aybiss · · Score: 0

      Actually the really great thing about those traffic lights is that if one LED blows the traffic lights still work. This is a far better option than relying on one big lamp. They're also far more visible from a distance without being glaring up close. We have them going in all around NSW now too and I for one think they're great. Now if only someone would fix the holes in the roads and the lack of adequate lane markings and signage around intersections...

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  15. Ultraviolet LEDs! Fun! by synaptic · · Score: 1

    Doesn't ultraviolet radiation/light ionize air and kill or seriously mutate living cells?

    Imagine a beowulf of these things (like those stupid looking infrared leds for infrared-sensitive CCD/CMOS cameras), ionizing the air into which an electric current is conducted, igniting the ionized air into a plasma which can then be shaped with small electromagnets.

    Isn't this essentially how the Deep Space 1 ion-drive propulsion works?

    Gimme a few hundred thousand of these UV LEDs, some SPF999, and I'll be running this place in under a week.

    Hrmph, maybe this is the 21st century after all.

  16. So this is the guy responsible for Blue Laser? by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 3, Funny

    Time to call the Cheat Commandos and ROCK, ROCK ON!

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  17. Frickin' laser beams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    TFA explains "blue lasers," summary misquotes as "ultraviolet LEDs". Whatever, same difference.

    Nakamura is not just an LED guru, he's more generally a wizard of light and... light, I guess.

    1. Re:Frickin' laser beams by deglr6328 · · Score: 1

      blue semiconductor lasers are EVEN MORE inefficient than blue LEDs. And I don't think (>microwatt level) UV semiconductor laser diodes that operate above cryogenic temperatures even exist yet.

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  18. LEDs are the new LASER? by RealGrouchy · · Score: 0

    I find it both amusing and fascinating that when they were just coming out, lasers were depicted in sci-fi as being the solution to everything. We laugh, yet they're used for so many things, like laser eye surgery. Maybe LEDs will in time prove to be similarly useful? /still waiting for the death ray.

    - RG>

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  19. Purple...ish by MachDelta · · Score: 2, Informative

    Your right, it doesn't.
    405nm falls into the category of Violet (380-420nm). Blue would be between 440 and 490nm.

    I wonder if/when we'll ever start using ultraviolet lasers to access data? (Maybe someone already does...?)

    1. Re:Purple...ish by Trogre · · Score: 2, Funny

      I wonder if/when we'll ever start using ultraviolet lasers to access data?

      Well duh. You wouldn't be able to see your data then!

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    2. Re:Purple...ish by jacobw · · Score: 1
      I wonder if/when we'll ever start using ultraviolet lasers to access data?
      Well duh. You wouldn't be able to see your data then!
      At least, not until your data got sufficiently tan.
    3. Re:Purple...ish by RabidJackal · · Score: 1

      Apparently Pioneer are working on an ultra violet technology, with discs capable of holding 500gb of data.

      http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/blu-ray4.htm

  20. Not University of California by krunk4ever · · Score: 4, Informative

    To be clear, she's a professor at University of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB) and not University of California, which is usually associated with Berkeley, being the 1st UC in the state.

    1. Re:Not University of California by falzer · · Score: 5, Funny

      I know it's fun to use "she/he" interchangeably to curry favour with feminists, but in this case the inventor actually is a he.

    2. Re:Not University of California by alxkit · · Score: 0

      hope this clears things up...

      University of California: Berkeley::

      fruit: apple::

    3. Re:Not University of California by solistus · · Score: 1

      I grew up in Southern California, and when I hear "University of California," I think the whole system. Berkeley's common nickname is Cal. The UC system has several good campuses; while Berkeley is the most famous, there are departments at other schools, such as UCSB, UCD and UCLA, that are superior to their Berkeley counterparts, and the UC system itself is often worth talking about.

    4. Re:Not University of California by bariswheel · · Score: 1

      THANK YOU.

      I hate the fact that when some professor in Berkeley invents something, it's UC Berkeley or CAL Berkeley...they get credited...but when we're on the table, it's University of California. Excuse my french but fuck that.
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    5. Re:Not University of California by mspohr · · Score: 1
      Bzzzzzzt...

      "He" is not a "she".

      The University of California has ten campuses (of which Berkeley is one but you may have also heard of UCLA - Los Angeles or UCSF - San Francisco or one of the other campuses).

      http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/

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  21. Re:sense of aesthetics = fag by Pink+Tinkletini · · Score: 1
    "sense of aesthetics = fag"
    Honest to God, sometimes I wish I were gay just so I wouldn't come to be associated with tasteless, beer-chugging, gay-bashing, NASCAR-watching, Kevin Aviance-assaulting fratboys like you.

    It's worth noting that Apple products are typically subdued and understated in their design, as in nary a blinding blue light of death across the line. You want elegance and comfort? Follow your instincts and buy Apple. On the other hand, if you're an aesthetically defective redneck, follow your instincts and cobble together that shitbox you've always wanted with the dozens of meaningless lights and A380 fan. We won't miss you.
  22. Actually they don't use filters. by skids · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One of the main reasons, other than not having to change them nearly as often, for using LEDs in traffic lights is that they are monocromatic: if you have a white light behind a colored filter, you're throwing most of your power into heating the filter. Colored lights are the one application where LEDs are already more efficient than flourescents. So much so that newer lights in remote areas can be cheaply solar powered, which in many situations saves you money when considering the cost of running electric lines from them to the grid versus the panels/battery.

    And they are catching on -- we have them here in the U.S. too. By my BoTE estimate, nationwide we have about as much baseline power to save on traffic lights as it would take a midsized coal plant to generate (IIRC they have already penetrated 20% of the streetlighting market.) That's a considerable amount of energy and tax dollars we can save right there -- just a matter of getting those town officials to make the jump.

    1. Re:Actually they don't use filters. by Inda · · Score: 1

      Pretty much all the traffic and warning signs use LEDs in the UK.

      All the warning signs, like "2.5m height limit! Turn left!", are powered by solar panels and windmills.

      It's all a welcoming sight for me. More of the same please.

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    2. Re:Actually they don't use filters. by SvetBeard · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, the recent energy bill banned the manufacture and import of parts for incandescent signals in the United States as of January 1, 2006. Existing stocks may be used until they run out, but the upgrade to LED signal tech makes sense. One of my co-workers is a councilman for a small municipality with one traffic signal. The recently converted it to LED. He forwarded us the e-mail from the Public Works department telling that the power bill for the signal was $30 for a month of LED instead of the $150 per month with incandescent. One signal will save the town $1200 a year. Multiply that cost and energy savings by the number of traffic signals in the United States and you'll see why LED traffic signals are catching on.

    3. Re:Actually they don't use filters. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How can a white LED be monochromatic? Can't think of a good reason not to just use coloured LEDs, though.

    4. Re:Actually they don't use filters. by rco3 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Interestingly enough, white LEDs (as opposed to RGB LEDs) are usually either blue or UV LEDs with a phosphor coating, much like a fluorescent light bulb's. So the LED itself is in fact monochromatic, or as nearly so as LEDs tend to be. The mechanism behind photon emission in LEDs (and diode lasers, which are nearly the same thing) strongly favors emission of photons clustered very tightly around a single energy level.

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    5. Re:Actually they don't use filters. by budgenator · · Score: 1

      Are these LEDs a screw-in replacement or are they more complicated. Also by have the existing stacks clause, I expect it'll be a long time before the LEDs are wide-spread,incandescent traffic signal bulbs laast a hell of a lot longer than anything I've been able to buy for use in the house.

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    6. Re:Actually they don't use filters. by skids · · Score: 2, Informative


      Originally I believe they were offered as a "forklift upgrade", but now are available as screw-in units at least for some models.

      If a town is cash-strapped the best thing for them to do is replace all the red bulbs first, then the green, and the yellow at their leisure. The red bulbs are cheapest and on average they are turned on the most. Once they are replaced the savings from them can be applied towards the more expensive green bulbs. Really power wise most yellow lights aren't that economical to replace, but they get replaced anyway because the LEDs last longer and changing the bulbs is expensive.

  23. or this -- magnet fingertip implants by skids · · Score: 1

    ...Implanted where they can tickle yor tactile nerves and used to sense magnetic fields.

    http://www.bmezine.com/news/pubring/20060115.html

  24. I just wish ... by Spacejock · · Score: 1

    ... manufacturers wouldn't keep putting high-intensity LEDs in the most ludicrous places. I have a cheapo laminator with a clear plastic handle on top, and embedded in the handle are two of the brightest blue LEDs I have ever seen. They're pointing straight up, which is exactly where my eyes are when I'm trying to feed a sheet of paper into the machine. Of all the stupid gonzo designs...
    Anyway, nine layers of masking tape and a liberal application of black texta later these LEDs are barely enough to light three rooms of my house.
    Next up are bright LEDS on speaker controls, the front of my LCD monitor, my mouse... After correcting all these things my gear looks like it was smashed with a hammer and stuck back together with tape.
    So, kudos to the guy for inventing the LEDS, and minus several million points to the manufacturers for using them.

    1. Re:I just wish ... by Ogive17 · · Score: 1

      A real nerd would only need 1 layer of duct tape.

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    2. Re:I just wish ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ever think of taking the LEDs out?

      BTW the joke in the sig is piss poor.

  25. Flour-escents? by dtmos · · Score: 1

    You mean those organic lights, made from grain?

    Oh, fluorescents. Sorry.

  26. Just great by ProppaT · · Score: 1

    Now we're handing over prestigious awards to case modders.

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  27. In the UK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    we have them for temporary traffic lights as well. The main benefit being they run off a couple of car batteries each rather than a diesel generator. No noise or fumes.

  28. Just the industrialized world?? by Stavr0 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Also, his white LEDS need far less energy than normal incandescent lamps and can thus provide plenty of opportunity for energy-saving in the industrialized world.

    Third world too, Dr. Dave Irvine-Halliday sent white LEDs to Nepal, India and Sri-Lanka. A whole village can be illuminated with 100W.
    Light Up The World Foundation
    Dr. Irvine-Halliday at Rolex Awards

    1. Re:Just the industrialized world?? by roguenine19 · · Score: 1
      A whole village can be illuminated with 100W.


      And it only takes one. That's the problem!
  29. Ah. . ! A nice, safe bit of engineering. by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 3, Funny
    Forgive my geek-quotient, but by-golly, I LOVE the white LED.

    Bare moments after they hit the market in the form of flashlights, I ordered at a ludicrously expensive bleeding-edge price the veritable Alpha-Male of the species; a phallic light-thrower which takes three 'D' cells and powers an array of 10 white LEDs. It's super-bright and it will run continuously for something like 3 solid months. Who needs a sports car?

    --And because I am confident in my masculinity, I also bought and primarily use a much smaller one with a single LED. Oh god, it's sweet! Super-bright, it runs forever on a triple 'A' cell. I use that thing all the time. Not like the cute but ultimately annoying mini-mag, which ran down after twenty minutes. --I always felt slightly stressed while using that thing for any work. Instead of focusing 100% of my attention on the task it was illuminating, I'd have a little part of my mind worrying, "Oh no! My flashlight is going to die soon!"

    Of course, with the far superior LED flashlight replacement, I now find myself distracted spending a sizable percentage of my brain thinking, "Wow! This is just the coolest flashlight on the planet!"

    Indeed. White LEDs are the first bit of new technology which actually made me sit up and say, "Holy Awesomeness, Batman! I NEED one of those for my belt!" since. . , well, I can't actually remember the last bit of engineering which I absolutely had to run out and buy.

    Oooh, scratch that. I DO remember. It was one of those extendable lightsaber toys when they first hit the market. They were painfully neat in an almost perfect kind of way. (That 8 inches of saber sticking out of the handle when the blade was retracted was dumb, but whatever). I broke mine open and installed extra lightsaber sounds, activated by a handy button so I could deflect pretend blaster bolts at a thumb press. Sooo proud of that. (Hm. Another phallic device. I wonder what's up with that. . .)

    A close runner-up invention in terms of coolness is the flatscreen monitor. They're exceptionally wonderful, (bright, no EM radiation, they don't make any electronic whining sound on the upper end of audio perception, and they're, well, FLAT!), except they didn't hit the market in an exciting burst of newness. They sort of arrived and sucked, then got slowly better and more affordable over a 15 year period. Can you imagine how exciting they would have been if they just suddenly showed up with no warning?

    I guess the MP3 was another really neat innovation. Heck. That drove the world stark-raving-giddy for almost two years. Remember Napster? Sheesh! The world is still trying to recover its senses.

    And before that. . . Well, I guess the CD was pretty darn cool. The recordable option was exciting. That changed the world as well. As did PacMan and Space Invaders down at the K-Mart entrance during the 80's.

    The Mountain Bike was pretty great, too. And so was the mini-Leatherman folding pliers. (The really small one which folds up to the size of a zippo.) I still have and my original pair bought when Leatherman was a new company back in the early nineties and use it regularly.

    But none of those things excited me quite like the white LED. White LEDs are beautiful in their simplicity.

    The only thing that annoys me about any of this is that I'm getting excited about weenie technology. --The MIC keeps all the really cool inventions from ever being released. We only get these safe little inventions which can't upset the balance of power and money distribution in the world. Ah well. At least we have cool flashlights!


    -FL

  30. how could you "notice"...? by SuperBanana · · Score: 0, Troll
    I got almost 2 years out of a set of 3 AAA batteries, the light itself provided excellent light at night and stayed bright up until the batteries were noticably dying.

    That is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've read on slashdot in years. OF COURSE the light "stayed" bright until you "noticed" otherwise.

    1. Re:how could you "notice"...? by Freaky+Spook · · Score: 1

      With a normal torch the light gets dimmer as the batteries loose power, with the LED light it stays the same level until the batteries are dead, so you get a better quality light as the batteries loose power.

    2. Re:how could you "notice"...? by SuperBanana · · Score: 1
      With a normal torch the light gets dimmer as the batteries loose power, with the LED light it stays the same level until the batteries are dead, so you get a better quality light as the batteries loose power.

      That's utter bullshit. Go look at a lumens vs current graph for any LED- light output is highly proportional to current. Current is a function of voltage and resistance.

  31. dont forget LED throwies... by chlo310 · · Score: 2, Funny
  32. White LEDs not *that* great by wiredlogic · · Score: 1

    I haven't kept up with the latest Luxeon LEDs but the last I knew, halogens were still more efficient in terms of lumens per watt. The mercury discharge lamps used in some car and bicycle headlights are even more efficient.

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  33. Why Purple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If GaN emits ultraviolet light, as stated in the article, why didn't they just make UV lasers? Would have had better data density than violet.

  34. Even better savings than you indicate by blueZ3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    as the LED lamps essentially do not need to be replaced. Incandescent lamps not only use more electricity, they have a much shorter life. The city will be saving $1200 a year in electricity, plus the cost of replacing the lamps every couple of years.

    I am really pleased to see these taking off--better for the environment on two fronts (longer life, lower power consumption) and nifty tech that I used to fiddle around with as a kid. Anyone else remember the books you could get at Radio Shack that had electronic projects to build? Man, I loved building LED displays.

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  35. Blue LED? by kimvette · · Score: 1
    Blue LEDS? OMG purty colours! Perhaps the new Slashdot skin could be OMG Ponies! only the ponies would have blue LEDs for the eyes? It'll be like dropping acid, only without the flashbacks!

    Seriously though I do have a question, FTFA:

    Professor Nakamura's next step was to add a novel phosphor to his blue chip to obtain white light.


    My question is simple. Does the phosphor wear out over time (like in CRTs) where the brightness and color will shift over time?
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  36. Millennium Prize? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By the way, what is this prize? I haven't heard of it before. Who funds it, who picks the candidates and the winner, are there limits to what fields of tech enter the competition? All info welcome :-)

    (Couldn't google my way past all the old millennium stuff...)

  37. Re:Ah. . ! A nice, safe bit of engineering. by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

    Slow down and breath, buddy.

  38. For no good reason. . . by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1
    Slow down and breath, buddy.

    Ah. Sneering humor for no good reason.

    Let me guess. You were one of those guys who sat at the back of the class and despised anybody who enjoyed life, participation and enthusiasm, because you never managed to overcome your own internal fears and shyness, etc., and so rather than encouraging others, tried to defuse any possible rogue happiness in the air so that you might control the emotional flow of the room. To stay on top. To stay 'safe', as it were.

    Typically guys like that put on a big show of 'rationality', cling to conservative politics with a death grip, and try to force all reality into known quantities of Black & White in order that they never have to face the unknown.

    It's all about trying to control EVERYTHING so that it can't hurt you.

    Grow up. The world is bigger than you and always will be. Get used to it. Learn to surf or get swallowed. Buddy.


    -FL

    1. Re:For no good reason. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Hey, I was reading through Slashdot's archives (my master plan is to read every comment at +3 or higher ever posted on Slashdot -- I found myself in deep agreement with an "ironic" statement someone posted saying Slashdot has the world's leading experts in practically every field known to man, and so now I'm finally getting the education I never had.)

      Anyway, I got to this comment of yours:
      "An infinite, non-repeating number must contain ALL possible data, right?"
      And I realized the answer is no. Just because it's infinite and non-repeating doesn't mean it must contain every string. (Although if it were truly random then we would expect it to.) For example, the number:
              0.515511555111555511115555511111555555111111 and so on,
      would not repeat and would contain infinite digits. However, all of these would be a 5 or a 1. (Similarly, you could just encode Pi in octal but then not mention that it's not decimal: it would still be infinite digits and non-repeating, but with a conspicuous lack 8's or 9's....).

      Sorry for the late reply.
  39. Infinity plus one. . . by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1
    And I realized the answer is no. Just because it's infinite and non-repeating doesn't mean it must contain every string. (Although if it were truly random then we would expect it to.) For example, the number:
                    0.515511555111555511115555511111555555111111 and so on,
    would not repeat and would contain infinite digits. However, all of these would be a 5 or a 1. (Similarly, you could just encode Pi in octal but then not mention that it's not decimal: it would still be infinite digits and non-repeating, but with a conspicuous lack 8's or 9's....).


    Both intersting and very true! (Although, I did reference Pi in my subject title, and that's the number I was thinking of. I must learn to be more specific in my flippant postings.)

    Anyway, cheers to you and happy +3 cruising! (Using Slashdot at a free university? What a neat idea!)


    -FL

  40. UV LEDs and 3rd world water purification by wizodd0 · · Score: 1

    While you can use UV LEDs for water purification, it doesn't really make much sense in remote, undeveloped areas, as such a system (which has to include a container, a power source and, of course, the LEDs,) is way more expensive than the cheapest known alternative.

    The alternative is, of course, sunlight.

    Using clear plastic bottles (the indestructable bane of the environment, now ubiquitous,) and combining a little shaking and a few hours of exposure to sunlight, you can sterilize quite a bit of water at the cost of a small amount of labor--much less labor than that required to obtain the water in the first place in many locales.

    http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2006/03/24/lo wtech_solar_water_purification_it_works.htm

    There is a research grant, http://apps.nciia.org/WebObjects/NciiaResources.wo a/wa/View/GrantProfile?n=1000504
    which claims that "...recycled plastic bottle coated with titanium dioxide and placed in the sun for several hours, killing not only bacteria but other harmful substances such as arsenic and herbicides."

    I really want to know more about this one, since in claims to eliminate the toxicity of the element arsenic....

  41. LOSE LOSE LOSE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's "lose", not "loose", you stupid fucking cunt. Learn the fucking difference. Jesus Fucking Christ.

    Note: The above is meant as constructive criticism, and should not be interpreted in any other way, moron.

  42. Also used in Laser Disk players by mink · · Score: 1

    I know a few LD players also used blue lasers. The HLD line of Pioneer MUSE (Japanese HD) compatable LD players used a blue laser.

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    Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.