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WoW And EVE CCGs Debut This Week

Posted by ryuzaki0 on from the get-your-collectors-hat-out dept.

Both World of Warcraft and EVE Online will be debuting collectible card games based on their online worlds this week at Gen Con. From the EVE announcement: "CCP will have a 128-person tournament at Gen Con in Hall G of the Indianapolis Convention Center on Saturday, August 12th with cash prizes totaling $10,000. The tournament will be open to everyone and since EVE: The Second Genesis will be launched at the show, those competing will have as equal a chance of winning as possible. The tournament will be a Swiss double elimination tournament with cash prizes for the top 32 players, with additional prizes for random players between rounds. A double elimination tournament is a competition where participants are eliminated from the tournament upon having lost two matches. All players will receive a starter deck free of charge when they come to the EVE booth for a demonstration."

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  1. Thank God! by walnutmon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now I will have something to do when not playing mmorpgs! My eating and sleeping habits have been really destructive to my ability to maintain a normal social life, in game, of course.

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  2. Who will buy this? by aafiske · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm kind of curious... I've never played a card game like this, but I have played both Eve and WoW. Is there really a market for this? Blizzard seems to be hedging its bets by giving in-game items for certain cards, thus pulling in potential customers who just want a pretty hat. (Which frankly, I see as a bigger market, but I'm not exactly an expert.) But that could conceivably backfire; I wouldn't be happy that I had to go pay even more money to access parts of a game I'm already shelling out for.

    Seems to me that if you really like these games, you'd rather be playing the real thing than the card game. And if you don't, these wouldn't appeal at all.

    Are you going to buy one of these? Why?

    1. Re:Who will buy this? by Kesch · · Score: 1, Funny

      1. Make a succseful game.
      2. Make spin off products like roleplaying games, board games, CCGs, T-Shirts (Blizzard is guilty on all accounts)
      3. ?????
      4. MORE PROFIT!
      (Note, should steps 3 or 4 fail to occur, it is suggested that you discontinue that product line.)

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    2. Re:Who will buy this? by PMAvers · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It really depends on if the game sucks or not.

      If the game's actually good (the WoW one actually sounds this way), then I'll give it a shot. At least the whole "raid" dungeon decks will be interesting, with the co-op focus.

      If the game's horrible, then the only people who'll be buying it will be the obsessive collectors who gotta have the "phattest" cosmetic character upgrades in game.

      Of course, a CCG being crap doesn't necessarily mean people will not buy it. See: Yu-Gi-Oh.

    3. Re:Who will buy this? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      "Seems to me that if you really like these games, you'd rather be playing the real thing than the card game. And if you don't, these wouldn't appeal at all."

      Well... it's something to show off to your buddies when you're in high school.

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    4. Re:Who will buy this? by Maggott · · Score: 1

      It's really not fair to condemn the game simply because it comes from a franchise. While normally the fact that it's a franchise game would suggest the gameplay will be ass, Blizzard tends to place decent standards on it's licensees as far as quality. The WoW boardgame, while a bit too clunky for my taste (way too many components to keep track of) was nonetheless about as good as you could get with that genre while keeping true to the experience. (The only better game I've played is Talisman, and that's only because Talisman is pared down enough to be playable in an hour or three)

      I see the game as being for people who like the game and the world and everything but just can't take the grind of playing 30 hours a week, or for people who just want a decent CCG that isn't Magic: The Gathering. This is assuming it turns out to be decent. If it doesn't, the franchise probably won't save it. The rules look like they have some potential; if the cards are written well the game might be fun. (Though the quests look mighty lame, what with spending resources being the primary way of accomplishing them...better to just give players the option of spending resources to draw cards if that's what they're for. Then again, I've only ever seen one really good quest mechanic, and it was for a game that was never published...)

      I'll probably buy it just to give it a shot, since I've been looking for a new CCG to play ever since I lost interest in L5R.

      (The hard part will be getting my friends into it while still convincing them to keep it casual...none of us can afford to become "competetive" players in a CCG again...)

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  3. Based on WoW, you say? by shigelojoe · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does this mean there'll be a "Server Crash" card where I get to throw all the cards off the playing area and demoralize my opponent to the point of forfeiting?

    1. Re:Based on WoW, you say? by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

      More to the point, are there Lagforge, Vendor Lag, Loot Lag and Quest Lag cards which limit particular activites your opponent can take. Additionally, there should be cards for "ML unexpectedly disconnects", "Ninja Looter", "Leeroy Jenkins", "Train Borelgore to IF" (or Terimus to SW) and finally "Deeprun Tram Cyber"

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    2. Re:Based on WoW, you say? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Sell that idea for this MMORPG-spoof TTG to Steve Jackson Games, I bet they need a supplement for their Munchkin line.

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  4. Wow... by mnemonic_ · · Score: 1

    This sounds quite foolish.

  5. Re:WoW Board Game by Kesch · · Score: 1

    You know what would be crazy! What if they made a pen-and-paper ruleset for WoW. It's almost like Blizzard is milking the Warcraft universe for all its cash. (Now if only the bastards would do this with Starcraft!)

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  6. Card game for WoW players by JavaLord · · Score: 3, Funny

    Here is a great card game for WoW players.

    1. Re:Card game for WoW players by servognome · · Score: 2, Funny

      I tried that game, the cards are way over powered. Play any of them and your average slashdot or WoW geek will be knocked down to zero life instantly.

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    2. Re:Card game for WoW players by Sage+Gaspar · · Score: 1

      Play any of them and your average slashdot or WoW geek will be knocked down to zero life instantly.

      You made it too easy.

    3. Re:Card game for WoW players by steveo777 · · Score: 1
      I like the 'Superman' exercises. I know it says they're for kids, but all I can think of is doing push-ups against a tile wall... in the morning... in front of a toilet.

      If you still don't get it, just watch the first sceen of 40 Year Old Virgin.

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  7. 1 word. by todd10k · · Score: 1

    Why?

  8. EvE by I+Like+Pudding · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Eve one is great if you have a hundred or some friends to play it with, and even more fun when you are playng against another group of one hundred. Combat is resolved thus: The first 100 gang up and kick one guy from the other team in the groin simultaneously. The remaining 99 on the second team then kick the crotch of a single member of the first team. Play ends when either all crotches have been kicked or the entire game falls apart, restarts, and every player has his crotch refunded by the GM.

    The game gets markedly less interesting with less people. If you have only one guy to play against, for example, there are only 4 cards you can actually use.

    1. Re:EvE by kn0tw0rk · · Score: 1

      So would it be cheating if you had one of those groin guards/boxes they use in cricket?

      Its all about cross branding (or is that now crotch-branding?)

      (now for the O/T part)
      I think that the common trial of life most youngsters face these days is avoiding or getting over addictive compulsive habbits (gaming/drugs/other), and actually doing something productive with their lives.

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    2. Re:EvE by mshurpik · · Score: 1

      The reason kids get obsessive behaviors is because their parents push games and drugs on them. And I'm not talking about pot-smoking parents, I'm talking about the straight-laced, good citizen parents who will buy their kids $thousands in games but never so much as a hammer and a toolbox.

  9. Obligatory PA link by MagicDude · · Score: 4, Funny

    http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2005/20050826h. jpg

    Hail Satan

  10. Difference between the two... by aapold · · Score: 1

    Everyone playing EVE at gencon will be sitting around one massive, massive round table in the same game, while wow will just a lot of normal sized tables but a lot of games running at once.

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    1. Re:Difference between the two... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Then I forsee people running randomly from WoW table to WoW table, searching desperately for one where the people assembled suck even more than they do.

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    2. Re:Difference between the two... by idontgno · · Score: 1
      Ah, the zone-famous "Looking for Group" channel.

      I actually had one guy decline a group invite because he was holding our for someone who would make him look good.

      In the vernacular, lolololol!

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  11. Only because it'll turn a profit by RulerOf · · Score: 1

    One pack of cards. That's the minimum that every single single serious WoW player will buy. Others will buy several, maybe ten or twenty, and build decks and play with their RL friends who also play WoW. There's enough people out there that the fact is it'll turn a profit. Blizzard seems to be all about profit, and occasionally making good games.

    I would dare to make a forecast by saying that this CCG, if anything like the MMO, will have absolutely no replay value. I admit, I pick up my Magic: The Gathering cards every now and then and play a game with my friends, but this game... expect to get a box full of them for $5 at a garage sale in about seven years.

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    1. Re:Only because it'll turn a profit by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

      That's the minimum that every single single serious WoW player will buy.

      What's your definition of serious - cos I have no plans on buying the cards - when would I get the time to play, I'm too busy raiding?

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    2. Re:Only because it'll turn a profit by RulerOf · · Score: 1

      For this purpose, I would say that "serious" could be defined as a person that confers joy with the acquisition of items or other valuables in the game. Not that such notions are by any means unwarranted, believe me, I loved every purple I ever got.

      The reason that these players would buy these packs, but not necessarily actively seek one, is for the same reason you're still carrying around that little pet rabbit or cockroach or kitten or cockatiel or whatever in your backpacks... The same reason that you would like to have a baby murloc and, supposing you could get one for three bucks, you'd consider plunking down the change... It's not that someone such as yourself doesn't plan to buy the cards, it's that you don't plan to never buy them.

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  12. Tim knew it! by novalogic · · Score: 1

    Hmm, Ctrl-Alt-Del knew about this over a year and a half ago!

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    1. Re:Tim knew it! by MacroRex · · Score: 1

      Yeah, Tim guessed the WoW board game a cool 7 months before it was announced, but what has this to do with the CCG?

  13. Re:WoW Board Game by orkysoft · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you want a Starcraft-like franchise, try Warhammer 40,000 from Games Workshop. Blizzard originally wanted Warcraft and Starcraft to be set in the GW universes, but GW stupidly denied them the licence, so they made up their own similar settings. Dawn of War is a pretty cool RTS game set in the WH40K universe. Try the demo sometime.

    See also this comment.

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  14. 1 word answer by Cheapy · · Score: 1

    Money.

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  15. The WoW CCG includes ultra-rare purple decks... by fake_name · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...but they wont sell them to you unless you show up with 39 friends.

    1. Re:The WoW CCG includes ultra-rare purple decks... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      ...and one of those 39 friends will be a total jerk and snatch that ultimate fighter booster pack when his deck is actually geared towards wizardry.

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    2. Re:The WoW CCG includes ultra-rare purple decks... by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 1

      Also, you and your 39 friends need to stand around for 6 hours performing mindless repetitive tasks. Not to mention wipe a few times because SOMEONE can't control their aggro. (I'm looking at you Mr. Mage...)

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  16. See EQ2 for reference by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    In EQ2, pretty much everything you'd want as a player is available. For an extra fee, of course.

    Afaik, the only thing you can't buy for hard cash so far (from Sony itself, not EBay) is top level accounts. Everything else is available, from extra item slots to equipment.

    So yes, I'd say there's a market for it. And yes, it pisses players off (i.e. me) to the extent that they drop the game altogether.

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  17. The lowdown. by oldManSquad · · Score: 1
    For the best info regarding these two, check out Boardgamegeek. Not much info yet as they are brand new.

    EVE: http://boardgamegeek.com/game/24085

    WOW: http://boardgamegeek.com/game/19643

  18. Eve Lag Alert by Everlasting+Axiom · · Score: 1

    Clearly he did not mention lag in Eve. It is like 100 players sitting on the same table sipping tea while waiting 10+ minutes for the next card to be dealt. Some of these guys are even playing WoW cardgame on the side.