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The Face of One AOL Searcher Exposed

Juha-Matti Laurio writes "No. 4417749 conducted hundreds of searches over a three-month period on topics ranging from "numb fingers" to "60 single men" to "dog that urinates on everything., report NYT journalists Michael Barbaro and Tom Zeller Jr., but with a permission from Mrs. Thelma Arnold, 62. "Those are my searches," she said, after a reporter read part of the list to her, continues the article."

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  1. What a ho by mgblst · · Score: 4, Funny

    "60 single men"
     
    At her age. I think she should be happy with a couple, but 60... gotta admire her!

  2. Hmm by Iamthefallen · · Score: 5, Funny

    User 48956332 Perl For Dummies
    User 48956332 HTML 4, whats the big deal
    User 48956332 Howto use sandboxen in development
    User 48956332 What is CSS
    User 48956332 Unit testing
    User 48956332 Spelcheking
    User 48956332 Why is Digg growing so fast?

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    1. Re:Hmm by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Funny

      User 48956332 Preventing Dupes.
      User 48956332 Preventing Dupes.
      User 48956332 Preventing Dupes.
      User 48956332 Preventing Dupes.

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    2. Re:Hmm by JPDeckers · · Score: 5, Funny
      Love browsing the data. As I noticed yesterday, a nice trace for user 14109288 (stripped a bit for readability):

      sexual positions 2006-05-22 21:57:18 http://www.sexualpositionsfree.com/
      sexual positions 2006-05-22 21:57:18 http://www.askmen.com/
      sexual positions 2006-05-22 21:57:18 http://www.condoms.au.com/
      premature ejaculation 2006-05-22 22:20:23 http://www.webmd.com/

      Note the timestamps of the last two lines, sounds like he had, well, an evening that did not go as planned

    3. Re:Hmm by Ant2 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Inevitable...

      16432953 las vegas shemale escorts 2006-05-10 12:51:11 http://lasvegas.sexydepo.com/
      16432953 chicago shemale escorts 2006-05-10 13:16:33 http://www.eros-chicago.com/
      16432953 chicago shemale escorts 2006-05-10 13:16:33 http://www.eros-chicago.com/
      16432953 shemale escorts in tampa 2006-05-10 22:45:29 http://www.eros-tampa.com/
      16432953 how to clean computer hard drive 2006-05-09 13:11:50 http://www.microsoft.com/

  3. The Beauty of the Internet by markild · · Score: 2, Informative

    Didn't take too long before it leaked all over the place, eh?

    http://www.aolsearchdatabase.com/

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  4. Search string by KiloByte · · Score: 5, Funny
    "dog that urinates on everything., report NYT journalists Michael Barbaro and Tom Zeller Jr., but with a permission from Mrs. Thelma Arnold, 62. "
    Hmm... an interesting search query.
    But at least it looks like my code isn't the only place invaded by quote-abducting aliens.
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  5. Nothing we can do! by mgblst · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Asked about Ms. Arnold, an AOL spokesman, Andrew Weinstein, reiterated the companys position that the data release was a mistake. We apologize specifically to her, he said. There is not a whole lot we can do.
     
    What a load... there is plenty you can do AOL. You can promise not to release this data again, you can actively hunt for it on the web. You can promise to delete your copy. You can promise that you won't keep data like this anymore. You can implement better security policies so that you know where your data is, and what is hapenning with it. You can limit the people who have access to posting stuff on your website.

    Useless bastards!

    1. Re:Nothing we can do! by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 4, Insightful

      On behalf of AOL, let me clarify... what they meant to say was "there is not a whole lot we could do that wouldn't interfere with the lucrative data-mining business."

    2. Re:Nothing we can do! by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The data is out there, what exactly could they do?
      Erase it from peoples hard drives, remove it from all the pipes that its in, drug everyone who has seen it?

      The fact they have this data is one thing, releasing it to the public is another.

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    3. Re:Nothing we can do! by Jafafa+Hots · · Score: 4, Insightful

      and they can pay hundreds of miliions of dollars in damages.

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    4. Re:Nothing we can do! by cortana · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why should they? Consumers have shown time and time again that they don't give a shit about how ethically a corporation acts, only about how cheap their products are. :(

    5. Re:Nothing we can do! by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To be fair, there isn't a whole lot AOL can do about the data that's already been released. In fact, nothing. That genie's out of the bottle, and while it is totally their fault for allowing someone to make such an enormously foolish and potentially dangerous decision, they have stated that they are taking steps so that it won't happen again. Believe me, with so many people looking for an excuse to further bash AOL, they won't dare let this kind of thing continue.

      "Not keeping data like this" doesn't make any sense at all and doesn't accomplish any good for customers. Indeed there is great value in understanding what searches are made and how the search process can be improved. Keeping this kind of data secure is sufficient in my mind. The last two sentences are something I would agree with.

      I just have to wonder who would be stupid enough to not realize the ramifications of doing this. It doesn't take "thorough vetting" to figure out that this would cause a firestorm of bad publicity.

      Of course, the real lesson here is: Don't do anything on the Internet you wouldn't want your mother to find out about. There is no anonymity on the Web. It doesn't take a stupid decision by a large company to prove this.

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    6. Re:Nothing we can do! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or more like...

      "C'mon, these are AOL users we are talking about...we never expected them to find out".

    7. Re:Nothing we can do! by rifter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The data is out there, what exactly could they do? Erase it from peoples hard drives, remove it from all the pipes that its in, drug everyone who has seen it?

      The fact they have this data is one thing, releasing it to the public is another.

      When it is data that they *care* about, corporations seem able to do plenty. If it's their source code, the code to decss, TimeWarnerAol's labels' mp3 files, the latest incriminating memos/emails ... they are positively rabid about protecting it. Cease and desist orders fall like rain, sites get shut down, people get sued for millions and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. But if it's their customers' data, like these searches, their email addresses, their credit card numbers, etc. They just shrug and say "Oh well. What canya do?"

      It's typical, frustrating, and complete bullshit. If the privacy laws were enforced and these corporations were punished for such egregious mishandling of our data maybe then they might think they can do something. But unless it directly affects them, they just are not going to care and will continue to take no precautions.

    8. Re:Nothing we can do! by dourk · · Score: 3, Funny

      remove it from all the pipes that its in

      Tubes, my friend. Tubes.

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    9. Re:Nothing we can do! by Bob9113 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      they have stated that they are taking steps so that it won't happen again.

      That is not enough. It is one thing when you get caught kicking a dog to say, "I won't kick the dog again." It is another, and far more noble, thing to say, "I will begin actively campaigning for the ASPCA." There has to be some accountability; not necessarily punishment, but retribution. For example, AOL could take steps to prevent any company from doing this again (promoting corporations to have data privacy built into their customer contract, lobbying for data purge laws, lobbying for privacy rights acts). If they do not, then they have done nothing but say, "We will feign remorse when we get caught." That is not good enough.

    10. Re:Nothing we can do! by plague3106 · · Score: 2, Informative

      If I'm not mistaken, bankruptcy does not free you from court ordered payments. You must still pay those.

    11. Re:Nothing we can do! by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "On behalf of AOL, let me clarify... what they meant to say was "there is not a whole lot we could do that wouldn't interfere with the lucrative data-mining business.""

      More like what they meant to say was, "there is not a whole lot we can do right now because our lawyers are threatening to castrate us if we say anything else to people who have been affected by this".

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    12. Re:Nothing we can do! by andrewman327 · · Score: 2, Funny
      The data is out there, what exactly could they do? Erase it from peoples hard drives, remove it from all the pipes that its in, drug everyone who has seen it?


      Attention /.ers reading this article, please remove your sunglasses and look directly into the screen. You have been browsing /. all day and have not found any mention of AOL other than how wonderful it is. As a matter of fact you were just thinking about how nice it would be to switch. Thank you and have a nice day.

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    13. Re:Nothing we can do! by assassinator42 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, AOL intentionally released this. I'm not sure what license they gave it. If it's not illegal, can AOL stop people from spreading it?

  6. Torpark by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Informative

    I guess this just goes to show that you should be using something like Torpark even when merely conducting an online search. It's a shame but if you value your privacy, I guess it's necessary.

    Keep those IPs changing so they can't track and accumulate your searches I guess. I don't want a dossier of my searches available to the public.

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    1. Re:Torpark by FireFury03 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I guess this just goes to show that you should be using something like Torpark even when merely conducting an online search.

      Whilest protecting your privacy does, on the surface, seem like a good thing, I wonder if it might count against you if you were ever suspected of a crime. We've already seen 'he has some encrypted data' used as evidence (even though the contents of the encrypted file weren't known) in one successful conviction, I suspect 'he's using privacy protection software called Tor' may go down the same way.

      Remember, only people who have something to hide care about protecting their privacy. :)

    2. Re:Torpark by z0idberg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      At the very least do your searching through an engine that is separate to your ISP.

      A customer of AOL searching through AOL has their searches linked to you as an individual. If you search through google then they get your IP address, and your ISP knows which IP address links to which individual at any one time (open Wifi networks aside). But at least the same company doesnt know both.

      The data AOL released was the equivalent of any other search engine releasing its searches with IP addresses, so the same damage could be done by any other search engines logs, but imagine how much a marketing company would pay for that info from AOL with the personal details for each user included (i.e. Age, Sex, location etc.).

    3. Re:Torpark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful
      "But at least the same company doesnt know both."


      That is not completely correct. Remember, your ISP knows both who you are and what you searched for at any of the search engines.

      The next big privacy nightmare may be an ISP (and not a search engine) opening up its logs.
    4. Re:Torpark by jagilbertvt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you people RTFA, the reporter was able to find her based on her queries, not her IP Address or anything else. Torpack wouldnt help, nor would using a different search engine (after all, that search engine could be compliling the same data about your searches), unless you want to use a different search engine everytime you make a query. And even then, there are only a limited number of decent search engines out there.

    5. Re:Torpark by Bob9113 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      At the very least do your searching through an engine that is separate to your ISP.

      Your ISP has access to everything you do online unless you're using an encrypted channel like SSL. Your HTTP requests go through your ISPs routers, which see all. Not just search terms, everything. Cox will see this submission when I send it through, and has seen each preview. Cox sees every email I send, including the full content and any attachments. Some ISPs may not be recording it, but for AOL a big part of their business is selling aggregated data to advertisers, and enterprise grade storage costs a few dollars a gig. They'd be stupid to throw away HTTP requests, and I'd lay 20 to 1 odds that they are not. At least until we have laws that require them to. But then, I think we're more like to have laws that require them to keep the data. The EU already does.

      Everything you do online is watched. It's just a question of whether you can trust your ISP. We currently lack any serious accountability for privacy breaches. The public is blissfully ignorant, and the government, far from promoting privacy, actually wants the data. In fact, depending on how far you think Epic/Carnivore/TIA goes, they already have it. Your phone records are protected by federal law, and they have those. What of data that isn't protected? Do you think they don't have it?

    6. Re:Torpark by xrayspx · · Score: 2

      TOR doesn't seem like it would have helped in her specific case, since she was searching for things she needed, as a resident of a particular town, and a particular development in that town. That's what made her easy to track, not anything like client IP or anything that TOR would guard against. It's a matter of search being less useful if you can't search for things that you need to know because of privacy concerns. It's a bummer.

  7. 1 down, 24.9999 million to go... by kafka47 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    What about the one we really need to know?? User 17556639!!!

    /K

    1. Re:1 down, 24.9999 million to go... by Billosaur · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, you can look at it one of two ways: User 17556639 is a diseased member of society or User 17556639 is a coroner doing research. Which is it? How do you decide based on just search information? And what does "steak and cheese" suggest?

      Yes, AOL releasing this information was the longest in a series of boneheaded decisions, and when it finally dies, no one will mourn its passing. However, unless you're a card-carrying member of the tin hat brigade, there's not much to fear. Yes, someone can potentially trace you, as they did with this lady, but the fact is so many searches are non-descript that you'd have a hell of a time tracking someone down. Look at User 17556639's searches -- what in that string of searches tells you who this person is, where they live, what they do, etc. If you're smart, you keep your searches general. It's not so much the searches you have to watch out for anyway, it's the links in those searches you click on that can give you away.

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    2. Re:1 down, 24.9999 million to go... by scribblej · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Your comment is marked "insightful"

      That is sad. "Funny" sure. But "Insightful?"

      Here's the person's searches in question:

      17556639 how to kill your wife
        17556639 how to kill your wife
        17556639 wife killer
        17556639 how to kill a wife
        17556639 poop
        17556639 dead people
        17556639 pictures of dead people
        17556639 killed people
        17556639 dead pictures
        17556639 dead pictures
        17556639 dead pictures
        17556639 murder photo
        17556639 steak and cheese
        17556639 photo of death
        17556639 photo of death
        17556639 death
        17556639 dead people photos
        17556639 photo of dead people
        17556639 www.murderdpeople.com
        17556639 decapatated photos
        17556639 decapatated photos
        17556639 car crashes3
        17556639 car crashes3
        17556639 car crash photo

      If you want this person investigated, you are worse than the "thought police." First off, it's clear (to me, at least) that this guy isn't thinking about killing anyone. He just wants to see some gory photos. "steakandcheese" is a site like rotten.com. Even if he is thinking about killing someone, that's OK. There's a comment further down on the site you linked to that I find to be "insightful" about an old twilight zone episode. The main character could read minds and he reads the mind of a bank security guard who is thinking about robbing the bank! He has the man investigated, but nothing comes out of it. In the end, the guard admits he was thinking about robbing the bank... in fact he's thought about it almost every day. It's just a fantasy he has to make the day go faster... not something he'd ever act on.

      And having been a regular visitor to rotten.com in the past myself, I know that just wanting to see some of the reality of death that we tend to keep hidden in American society is not a crime. It's not even thinking of a crime. It's perfectly natural and healthy curiosity. Neither is daydreaming about terrible things you would never do -- or want to have happen -- in real life. Fantasy is normal and healthy.

      In fact, if you've never been to rotten.com or a similar site, I'd recommend you go sometime.

    3. Re:1 down, 24.9999 million to go... by kthejoker · · Score: 2, Informative

      FYI: Googling "steak and cheese" myself, I see that steakandcheese.com is a site containing gory and disgusting photos and video.

      So it suggests that this person, while they may have had an idle curiosity towards the subject, was either well-versed or well-instructed enough about such things to know the name of that site, which I had no idea existed until today.

    4. Re:1 down, 24.9999 million to go... by Lord+of+Hyphens · · Score: 2, Funny

      C'mon, the guy was using AOL and the world knows it now! Isn't that enough humiliation?

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    5. Re:1 down, 24.9999 million to go... by hackstraw · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What about the one we really need to know?? User 17556639!!!

      Hello, I'm user 17556639, and I'm a crime novelist.

      Actually, I'm not but it is simply not up to AOL or the government or anybody to snoop into my business without probable cause. And probable cause is limited to the government, the rest stay the fuck out of my business.

      Anything taken out of context can look completely different, and it simply is NOT the duty of a citizen to chronically prove their innocence.

      A) Its sometimes impossible to prove that I was home alone asleep.

      B) I'm innocent until proven guilty. Even after being charged and possibly jailed until my court time.

      So, yes, I'm one of those "Fuck the children" people. I'm one of those people that respects my privacy. I'm one of those people that believes in free speech. Yes, I vote libertarian too.

    6. Re:1 down, 24.9999 million to go... by jc42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The main character could read minds and he reads the mind of a bank security guard who is thinking about robbing the bank! He has the man investigated, ...

      This is really an example of a common failure in logic. If you were the least bit rational, you'd hope that the bank's security people are thinking about how to rob the bank. If not, they're incompetent and should be replaced with people who do think about obvious job-related problems.

      Actually, I've seen this sort of failure in person. I've worked with a couple of software teams that were concerned with network security issues. So of course their searches included phrases related to security violations. This was noticed by the actual company network admins, whose job included spying on employees' outside network accesses. The developers repeatedly faced some pointed questioning by the security people, and basically just kept saying "We're trying to do our jobs." Eventually it would settle down and we'd be left to do our jobs. Then a few months later, the same thing would happen again.

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  8. but with permission... by Catmeat · · Score: 4, Funny
    ... but with a permission from Mrs. Thelma Arnold, 62...

    In other words, the journalists tracked down about 20 AOL searchers, but Mrs Arnold was the only one to give permission for the article as hers was the only search term list that didn't include 'midget porn'.

    1. Re:but with permission... by Rakshasa+Taisab · · Score: 3, Funny

      I just realized something... I've never searched for 'midget pron'. Consider that rectified.

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  9. Who uses AOL? by andrewman327 · · Score: 2, Funny
    From TFA: "a 62-year-old widow who frequently researches her friends' medical ailments and loves her three dogs.


    I don't know how the NYT reporters were able to track her down. After all, this describes most AOL users!

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  10. Legal Standing? by RagingFuryBlack · · Score: 3, Interesting
    FTA:

    There are also many thousands of sexual queries, along with searches about "child porno" and "how to kill oneself by natural gas" that raise questions about what legal authorities can and should do with such information.



    Now what kind of legal recourse can people expect from these search results? Can the man who searched for ways to kill his wife be tracked down? How about all of the paedophiles who searched for child pr0n? Oh, I can just see all of the "Come on AOL, think of the children...tell us who that was..." How closely tied are these numbers to the user's AOL Accounts, I mean, I'm sure AOL left themselves some tie to the user in their copy. What's stopping feds from making many major busts on people?

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    1. Re:Legal Standing? by CastrTroy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And just for the sake of argument, what does searching for something prove. Sure in the case of child pr0n, they would probably be able to search the guy's house/computer for evidence, but other than that, can you really get arrested for something solely on the fact that you searched for it? Maybe the guy who was searching for how to kill is wife was just joking, seeing what would come up. There's a lot of crazy stuff on the internet. I know i've searched for things just to see what comes up. Just about everything is available on the internet, sometimes it's just fun to see what's out there.

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    2. Re:Legal Standing? by RagingFuryBlack · · Score: 2, Informative

      Exactly my point. Normally, I'm one of those people who are for the "Let them watch if you have nothing to hide", but searches show no motives, no intent, hell, it diddn't even have to be the owner of the account who made the search. I can't tell you how many times my AIM Accounts were cracked back in the day. Same with IPs, as the woman that won against the RIAA proved. IPs can be spoofed, computers can become bots. Just because it says you searched for it doesn't mean you actuially did. Sadly, it still won't stop the feds, though.

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    3. Re:Legal Standing? by evileyetmc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Admittedly, you are correct in saying they are moving in that direction. My point was that once people realized that AOL was feeding the government prosecution fodder, they would avoid using AOL. At any rate, AOL is undoubtedly a sinking ship.

    4. Re:Legal Standing? by muellerr1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It seems to me that if you're going to give the guy who wants to kill his wife the benefit of the doubt, then the same benefit should extend to the child pr0n guys. Either it's protected speech or it's not. That's why the ACLU defends the neo-Nazis' right to free speech--we may not like what they say, but they have the right to say whatever they want. Not that I want to protect child pr0n guys in any way, however this is what people are talking about when they say 'slippery slope'. First it's the child pr0n, then it's the terrorism, then it's the abortionists, then it's your political opponents. Then it's you for no really good reason other than that they can.

      Courts rule time and again that if a search is illegal, the fruits of that search may not be used in court. This is the same principle. If we want the expectation of privacy in our web browsing kept as private as in our homes, then we need to find some other way to get the child pr0nsters. On the other hand, if we have no expectation of privacy in our web searches and should know better than to google child pr0n, then by all means nail them and everyone else to the wall. Just be sure to extend that principle to include things we link to on web pages, check out at libraries, and purchase at bookstores. I believe that libraries and bookstores in the US are already required by legislation to report to the government. Just remember that next time you're curious about the Anarchist's Cookbook and the recipes in there. It's all just chemistry anyway, right? I mean, I don't want to blow crap up, but I find it fascinating that horse poop and fuel oil can be that explosive and I want to know why. But ask at the public library and you might find yourself being asked uncomfortable questions by the Feds.

      Not to get too off topic, but do you remember in the wake of 9/11 how one person asked a Post Office clerk if there were any stamps without American flags on them and got detained and questioned? All I'm saying is, just because a web search returns illegal results doesn't mean it isn't a free speech or a privacy issue.

  11. AOL - "Bypassing the 5th Amendment for You!" by rolfwind · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I hope this issue brings more awareness to people about internet anonymity in general and that the government wants all your logs and that companies like Verizon roll over and let them have it.

    AOL has went one step further and given their customer's information to the world. I googled the news to see if this story is being reported in the mainstream media, and it is minimally (minimal b/c of TimeWarner?) but I have to laugh as it is characterized as a "goof" and a "gaffe". Laughably understated and nice words for something that at best can be described as sheer bumbling negligence and at worst as a breach of privacy of the worst sort.

    Even more ironic, the first news story to pop up on google has nothing to do with this but is:

    "AOL offers free security software"
    http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2161980/aol-offe rs-free-security

  12. Quick! by ttys00 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Quick, make a bunch of bogus searches! That way you will have some plausible deniability when The Man knocks on your door with a list of your searches.

    "Officer, those searches can't be mine, I'm not an 18 year old lesbian movie actress!"

    1. Re:Quick! by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 2, Funny

      =typing searches=
      pictures of dead people
      *no, that didn't work*
      killed people
      *hmm, no good, maybe try "dead pictures"*
      dead pictures
      *hmm, no results, lemme try again*
      dead pictures
      *0 searches, cmon! one more try*
      dead pictures
      *no, nothing... how about...*
      murder photo
      *ah fuck it, lemme go on Slashdot.*
      =reads ttys00's comment=
      Quick, make a bunch of bogus searches! That way you will have some plausible deniability when The Man knocks on your door with a list of your searches.
      *oh shit... he's right. Lemme go make some fake searches... um... hmm. Oh, I got it!*
      steak and cheese
      *hmm. What else?... damn, can't think of anything*
      photo of death ...

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  13. She should stay at AOL by gorbachev · · Score: 3, Funny

    At the end of the article, she says she's cancelling her AOL account as a result.

    She shouldn't. There's absolutely no way AOL will ever do anything like that again. On the other hand, if she switches to another online provider, who still hasn't been burned, it's a quite a bit more likely they'll screw up like this as well. She'd be "safer" staying at AOL.

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    1. Re:She should stay at AOL by shudde · · Score: 5, Funny

      At the end of the article, she says she's cancelling her AOL account as a result.

      Correction, she's going to try to cancel her AOL account.

    2. Re:She should stay at AOL by RagingFuryBlack · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Perhaps she's taking the first step in filing a lawsuit against the company for violation of privacy? It wouldn't look very good for her if she kept her account and still chose to sue.

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  14. Do the search again? by ZaSz-RH · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now if she repeats the searches, she'll find links to his own face.

  15. Oblig. Prisoner by ettlz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where am I?
    You're on AOL.
    What do you want?
    Search information.
    Whose side are you on?
    That would be telling. We want information. Information. Information.
    You won't get it.
    By hook or by crook, we will.
    Who are you?
    The new ad-funded AOL Number 2.
    Who is Number 1?
    You are Number 4417749.
    I am not a number -- I am a free gran!

    1. Re:Oblig. Prisoner by cswiger2005 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Kudos. Please mod Slashdot prisoner #639203 up.

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  16. She should sue the pants off AOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why is it that whenever a big company blatantly violates the law, they get away with a few users boycotting them for a while, but when big business is slightly victimized, all hell breaks lose, laws are changed in their favor and individuals' lives get ruined? Sue AOL. Make them pay. Nothing says sorry like a multi-million dollar cheque.

    1. Re:She should sue the pants off AOL by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nothing says sorry like a multi-million dollar cheque.

      I would far prefer AOL executive officers getting jail time.

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  17. Technology in the NY Times by MobyDisk · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I found this interesting:
    Next Article in Technology (1 of 27)
    The NY times considers this an article on technology. Slashdot considers this an article on "Your Rights Online." That is the reason nothing will happen no matter how many times these privacy violations occur. People don't act on technology issues. They act on privacy, religion, and entertainment. I would shame the NY times that they still don't get it, but neither does most of the rest of the planet either.
  18. won't hurt yahoo by pimpimpim · · Score: 2, Funny
    Some clearvoiant (how do you spell that actually?) already saw in advance that this won't hurt yahoo:

    21528558 http com yahoo com wont hurt wont yahoo 2006-04-21 15:31:20

    I'm amazed by the masses of stupid search strings that are given, why are so many search strings complete (or non working) http adresses? (e.g. www.yahoo.com) Seems like a lousy database to me anyway.

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  19. AOL's apology vs. Dilbert's boss by khendron · · Score: 5, Funny

    From AOL's public apology

    "This was a screw up, and we're angry and upset about it. It was an innocent enough attempt to reach out to the academic community with new research tools, but it was obviously not appropriately vetted..."

    This is sounding very much like Dilbert's boss's public apology made years ago:

    "It was wrong for us to sell keyboards with no 'Q' We're sorry. We're morons. We're dumber than squirrels. We hear voices and do what they command. I have broccoli in my socks. "

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  20. user 4417749's Search Records by aquatone282 · · Score: 5, Funny

    4417749 numb fingers
    4417749 60 single men
    4417749 dog that urinates on everything
    4417749 landscapers in Lilburn, Ga
    4417749 bill arnold
    4417749 carpet shampoo rental
    4417749 julie arnold
    4417749 stan arnold
    4417749 homes sold in shadow lake subdivision gwinnett county georgia
    4417749 gwinnet county animal services
    4417749 stan arnold
    4417749 pecan pie recipes
    4417749 McGyver DVDs
    4417749 pet euthanasia services

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    1. Re:user 4417749's Search Records by pimpimpim · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hmm when I grow 60 I should remember to buy some McGuyver DVDs as well. Might spice up life a little bit, y'know.

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  21. The most importane part of TFA by kent_eh · · Score: 2, Interesting
    "As unhappy as I am to see this data on people leaked, I'm heartened that we will have this conversation as a culture, which is long overdue."

    Now, what can we do?
    How about making sure "this conversation" happens, and continues to happen.

    And not just here on /.

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  22. Anonymity? by CopaceticOpus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why is online anonymity so hard to come by? It seems that every service I use on the web keeps logs and statistics, and there always seems to be some trail linking me to whatever I've done online. Perhaps there are searches and discussions I've had online that I don't want a potential employer to come across, for example. No matter how careful I may be, I never feel too confident that I've been successfully shielded by anonymity.

    It would be nice to see more online services that at least make an effort to maintain your anonymity. How about a proxy that will do all your google searches from a set of hundreds of random IP addresses, selecting a new one each time and never connecting the searches to one another? Or how about an ISP that gives you a new, random IP address on request, and keeps NO LOGS of who had which IP in the past?

    There are two obstacles to this - first, the average joe doesn't think too carefully about anonymity, so the demand for such services is low. Second, there are legal issues regarding what information would be recorded. It would be very interesting to see the RIAA come to the ISP in my above example and request the account information of a file trader. What would happen if they literally had no logs and no way of telling which user had been using that IP? It seems like they might get in trouble, but why should they? Grocery stores aren't required to keep careful logs of each person walking through their doors. Don't ISPs have the same right to allow people to come and go?

  23. SQL injection target? by Chapter80 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Pretty cool seeing people get this data into searchable form, like on:
    http://www.aolsearchdatabase.com/

    I did a search on there this morning, and it displays the SQL statement for me, which is very handy...

    Select SQL_CALC_FOUND_ROWS * from search_data WHERE match (anon_id,query,click_url) against ('4417749 ') LIMIT 0,30

    Interestingly, if you do the standard SQL injection, searching for something like "4417749') LIMIT 0,30; DROP TABLE SQL_CALC_FOUND_ROWS;--", I bet you will screw it up for them. Kids, don't try this at home. I'd never encourage people to do something illegal!

    The point of this posting is:
    Learn about SQL Injection, and protect against it.
    Don't display your SQL query to your users.

    If you don't know what SQL injection is, try a simple example: Search for "1','0" (skip the double quotes, but not the single quotes) and you'll see it in action without causing harm.

    1. Re:SQL injection target? by Inataysia · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Just to pimp somebody else's work...

      A neat paper was presented in the Software track at USENIX Security just a week or so ago about a technique that can be used to prevent all SQL injection attacks. It's a source code transformation that tracks one or two bits of "taint" information for every byte address in a program's address space.

      The sysadmin or security admin can then define a policy with augmented regular expressions that have three Kleene-style operators that let you say e.g. (expr)^T, which matches the expression 'expr', iff every byte in expr is tainted, or (expr)^t which matches 'expr' iff at least one byte of expr is tainted. The last operator is ^u which means "iff none of these characters are tainted".

      They prevent SQL injections by making a policy that says that whenever the function that actually executes the SQL query is called, its arguments are examined, and any string that matches.. (looks it up).. "(StrIdNum|Delim)*(SqlMetachar)^T(any)*", causes the system to either cause the call to fail with a given error, or causes the program to halt.

      That's pretty neat, but it's already been done with pre-built binaries. The problem with those systems is that they use library preload hacks and have to run each instruction inside a lightweight VM to track the taint information (because they lack the semantics that come with having the source), giving performance hits of a factor of around 100. Since this solution transforms the source, GCC can optimize the transformed code a fair deal and they end up with around a 17% performance hit, which is an excellent tradeoff for security.

      Since it's a C source transformation, they transformed apache, PHP, bash, and even glibc. Their technique can be used (and was demonstrated in the paper) to prevent a number of classes of attacks, not just specific attacks.

      Look it up: "Taint-Enhanced Policy Enforcement: A Practical Approach to Defeat a Wide Range of Attacks", Wei Xu, Sandeep Bhatkar, R. Sekar, Stony Brook University.

      End pimp.

    2. Re:SQL injection target? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Informative

      Of course, they could simply make the user used to connect to the database unable to modify those tables. There's no reason for them to have that access.

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    3. Re:SQL injection target? by Software · · Score: 2, Informative
      >Of course, they could simply make the user used to connect to the database unable to modify those tables. There's no reason for them to have that access.

      Yes, this is a good idea. Even if the database user had read-only privileges, though, SQL injection might allow attackers to run "unapproved" queries. For example, an outer join over all the elements might bring the database server to its knees (if the Slashdot effect hasn't done that already). So you'd want both - defense in depth is always a good idea (I don't mean to suggest that you believe otherwise).

  24. How to achieve change by RagingFuryBlack · · Score: 4, Interesting

    After reading through all of the 0+ modded comments, I've seen everyone saying "God, I wish there was something that could be done to stop this from happening again". You want to see it stop? Find something that ties your local congressmen to their search histories on AOL. Contact them with that information. I can almost guarantee you that if you find enough dirt on enough congressmen/senators, you'll see legislation passed requiring that Search companies not keep records of searches. It quickly changes from "Think of the children" to "Think of saving my ass from dirt that can be used against me next election year"

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  25. Privacy as evidence of nefarious character by RareButSeriousSideEf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You raise an important and oft-overlooked point.

    This is exactly why I think it's so critical to evangelize with regard to using privacy measures. I want my mother, Aunt Sally, and 8-year old neice to be using TrueCrypt and Tor at a minimum (or, something providing similar functionality). Privacy / anonymity suites need to become as commonplace as antivirus, firewall and anti-spam software.

    Helping strong privacy measures become the status-quo serves other important goals too. It makes it more politically costly to try to legislate them out of use, and it reduces the usefulness of developing new data mining programs that require person:transaction relationships - both for the government and for private industry.

    In short, when everyone's Aunt Sally can be expected to have countermeasures against activity monitoring running on her home PC, the world will have become a safer place for all of us.

  26. This is beyond 1984 / Reality of danger, promise by mattr · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I wrote a little perl program to check on whether my family is in the released data.

    This is very scary data, though also chock full of interesting info, interesting taken in many different ways. It was easy to find a number of people referencing my small home town of about 20,000 people. I shiver to imagine say a wife using AOL at home and her geek husband searching this stuff at work (not my problem).

    Suffice it to say, the data is FULL of personally identifying information. AOL is not telling the truth. Heck, Google even gives you an address if you give it a phone number, people are used to typing people's names into the search box. And if you search for a given ID you can follow their trains of thought over time and it can be shattering; everyone looks for their own family online.. I even found an unknown relative that way once. AOL should hire some clueful people and get them into the loop, but it's too late for some people.

    Incidentally, I found one of the most interesting words is "should". That, and "cocktail dresses" but I'm not going to get into that one. You see it turns out that not only do people sometimes unintentionally paste info from mail or webpages into the search field, they also ask questions that normally they might just write on paper and throw in the trash, or give up worrying about. So what AOL has done is closer to taping a confessional, what someone might ask of God or their doctor, or just worry endlessly about, and release it! What infants! It seems to say something about why doctors and priests have a professional code and know how to keep things private. Here are some search phrases, I'm not putting any in that have a person's name but you can probably get the idea from this.

    what the fuck should i name my fetus
    my nose is bleeding from cocaine what should i do
    baby has something stuck in his foot what should i do
    my mom is a hooker what should i do
    how to tell a wife her husband is having an affair with you
    caught my wife cheating
    my wife cheated on me with a guy with a huge cock now what
    spy on the wife
    get revenge from a wife cheater
    catch your wife having an affair
    my cheating wife
    got caught cheating on my wife and now she trying to take my kids away
    my wife and kids are living with an ex con
    very sexy baby nice pics i wanna c more lol u should take a look at my pic s tell me what ya think if u wanna chat my yahoo is lets get it mane and my aim is mhsplaya8
    should a spouse stay married to a sex addict
    should i let my son inlaw fuck me
    i should have used a condom
    dude read this its reallllly weird body hi. my name is kimi. it's too late now. you shouldn't have opened this bulletin but since you did you will die tonight if you dont keep reading. well i'm 19. i don't have eye lashes and i dont have a nose. pr
    what should i do about heart palpitations after smoking crack
    should a man go to a strip club the girlfriend is upset
    should i see a married man
    should i tell the other man's wife
    should i confront my wife's adultery partner
    mom showed me how to masterbate
    why my girlfriend should give me head
    should i buy extended warranty on my laptop
    an employee jokes all day long what should i do
    should parents let their children become stars
    l want some pill to dead
    l want to kill myself pill sleep
    i want to kill myself
    should i kill myself
    i need someone to help me before i kill myself
    help no one loves me i want to kill myself
    best way to kill myself
    i want to kill myself indiana hotline
    god please my heart hurts help
    l need to talk with a fbi
    should informants be identified

    Now maybe people will understand what AOL has done.
    I am posting this because:

    • I want strong pro-privacy legislation re search engines and other online venues
    • The use of search engines as Voice-of-God or call-for-help is real. Search engines should be mandated to 1) not
  27. Re:Oh those whacky AOL users... by cr0sh · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I am just trying to figure out how someone swaps back and forth between researching "death and violence", and then, right in the middle of such research, decides "yeah, let's look for 'poop'" or "yeah, 'steak and cheese', that'll do it!" - and then continues right on searching for more "death and violence".


    I can only think of a few possibilities as to why this is - either someone else was searching at the same time using the same account (or, hopefully, multiple people, unless the "steak and cheese" caused them troubles with "poop" - eh), or these records are presented in nothing like date/time order.

    Can anybody tell me if the data in the dump has more than two fields (all I have ever seen is an "id" field, and a "search terms" field listed)? Are there other fields in the data dump that indicate a date/time stamp or something so that the searches can be ordered by that?

    If not, then it is very likely that these searches were simply dumped using the equivalent of "SELECT id, terms FROM table", with no ORDER BY (or equivalent) clause tacked on, and the results were returned in a non-defined order (which might be by record insert order, by random order, or by any other possible order - for SQL compliant databases, if you don't specify an ORDER BY clause, the returned order of a recordset is undefined, and could possibly be in a different order each time the query is run by the backend SQL engine). If that is the case, than this data become just a bit more meaningless, as one could not follow a searcher's "train of thought" to determine what they were going after.

    This would have both good and bad consequences for the data as it stands - good in that it obsfuscates the data just a bit more which could conceivably help hide a searcher's intentions, but also bad in that it could make innocent intentions look more non-innocent, depending on how the result set is skewed...

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