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Backward Sunspot Heralds Next Solar Cycle

GoramFrackinWacko writes "A backward sunspot chronicled on July 31st heralds the next solar cycle, and it looks to be a big one! From the article: 'Satellite operators and NASA mission planners are bracing for this next solar cycle because it is expected to be exceptionally stormy, perhaps the stormiest in decades. Sunspots and solar flares will return in abundance, producing bright auroras on Earth and dangerous proton storms in space.'"

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  1. wishing for news by yagu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This story reminds me of the recent "predictions" of a potentially devastating hurricane season with greater than average frequency hurricanes and more of these hurricanes being Category 5 (the strongest hurricane defined). On what basis?

    On the buzz around global warming and its effect on hurricanes among other things, and the recent "example" season of a record-breaking number of hurricanes. So, naturally the prediction for this season was "lots of big hurricanes". I'm not sure, but so far I don't recall any hurricanes well into the season, but if you watch the Weather Channel, they're almost praying for some... The recent "tracking" of Chris showed almost despondent correspondents (pretending to show relief at Chris' dissipation) when Chris fizzled.

    Similarly with sun spots, sun cycles and predictable sun cycle behaviors. We know more than ever about the sun, but the more we know the less we know how to predict what it's going to do. This is an interesting story in that stories about the sun and sun spots are inherently interesting (in my opinion). But, from the article: Satellite operators and NASA mission planners are bracing for this next solar cycle because it is expected to be exceptionally stormy, perhaps the stormiest in decades.... That is purely conjecture -- no more likely to be correct than not. Especially when considering the builtin caveat from the article:

    First, the sunspot lasted only three hours. Typically, sunspots last days, weeks or even months. Three hours is fleeting in the extreme. "It came and went so fast, it was not given an official sunspot number," says Hathaway. The astronomers who number sunspots didn't think it worthy!

    Second, the latitude of the spot is suspicious. New-cycle sunspots almost always pop up at mid-latitudes, around 30o N or 30o S. The backward sunspot popped up at 13o S. "That's strange."

    Makes for good news though -- something scary to be afraid of.
    1. Re:wishing for news by andrewman327 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Glad to hear a voice of reason. The media love to hype potential stories for maximum effect.


      If the writeup is correct, however, we could get some awesome Northern Lights. The negative repercussions would most likely be limited to fleeting disruptions in some radio traffic. Some phone calls and television feeds may have momentary issues, but even at its worst I doubt all of the doomsday predictions that claim we will arrive back at the stone age from having everything in orbit nuked.

      Above all you must remember this: Don't Panic!

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    2. Re:wishing for news by thatguywhoiam · · Score: 5, Insightful
      This story reminds me of the recent "predictions" of a potentially devastating hurricane season with greater than average frequency hurricanes and more of these hurricanes being Category 5 (the strongest hurricane defined). On what basis?
      Science. NOAA's instruments. Historical patterns. New data. In other words, our most educated guess.

      Sure they're wrong sometimes, but the fact that the science is imperfect does not warrant discounting these observations altogether.

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    3. Re:wishing for news by timster · · Score: 4, Informative

      Inside the article there is a link to an article about why they are planning for a more intense solar cycle. It's not "purely conjecture".

      http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/10mar_stor mwarning.htm

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    4. Re:wishing for news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good point.

      You can find more info here.

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      Roland

    5. Re:wishing for news by yorgo · · Score: 1

      Shucks. If we'd only stopped learning years ago, we could predict *exactly* "what it's going to do".

    6. Re:wishing for news by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Insightful
      ... but if you watch the Weather Channel, they're almost praying for some... The recent "tracking" of Chris showed almost despondent correspondents (pretending to show relief at Chris' dissipation) when Chris fizzled.
      Hurricanes are exciting, especially to people who study them. Weather correspondents make a living based on phenomena like hurricanes -- so why wouldn't they be disappointed?

      Also, dire predictions boost ratings and sell airtime. This is why the chance of snowfall is always hyped in the winter, etc.

      Sure, thanks for pointing out that some people in all fields have a predilection for sensationalism -- but anyone who doesn't take all such predictions with a grain of salt needs some critical thinking skills.

      I'm not sure, but so far I don't recall any hurricanes well into the season
      Just as anecdotal evidence is not proof of something, anecdotal evidence is also not proof that something is false. We have an imperfect understanding of weather, and while all the conditions indicate that something is likely, it does not mean that something will happen. Also, note that the hurricane estimates for this season were revised downward based upon new, more current, readings in early August.

      One more thing to note -- hurricane season isn't in full-swing until mid-August (now). A light June/July may be insignificant compared to what happens during peak season, Aug-Oct. Related to that, maybe a lack of early hurricanes bodes poorly for the rest of the season -- there is a lot of energy yet to be dissipated.

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    7. Re:wishing for news by powerlord · · Score: 1
      ... but even at its worst I doubt all of the doomsday predictions that claim we will arrive back at the stone age from having everything in orbit nuked.

      I agree, this is all speculation, but there is another thing to consider. Bare in mind how much (still dark) fiber got laid during the 90s tech boom. I expect having all the satellites blown/fried from orbit would be an inconvenience (albeit a major one) more than a disaster of epic proportions. Navigation for trans-oceanic plans/ships would probably suffer the most, and even that should be just fine. Inconvenienced, but otherwise okay.

      On the other hand, FTFA:
      Solar physicists have long known that sunspot magnetic fields reverse polarity from cycle to cycle. N-S becomes S-N and vice versa.


      Who knew the Sun was wired for AC instead of DC? =)
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    8. Re:wishing for news by Black-Man · · Score: 1

      Hey... it hit 85 degrees in the midwest today - 85 degrees in AUGUST for Christ's sake!! - isn't that enough proof that global warming is reality and we should shutdown all the coal fired power plants NOW!!

    9. Re:wishing for news by tlhIngan · · Score: 2, Interesting
      If the writeup is correct, however, we could get some awesome Northern Lights. The negative repercussions would most likely be limited to fleeting disruptions in some radio traffic. Some phone calls and television feeds may have momentary issues, but even at its worst I doubt all of the doomsday predictions that claim we will arrive back at the stone age from having everything in orbit nuked.


      Well, not everything will be nuked - only the less protected satellites (either by design, or through age and/or collisions with micrometeorites/space debris). Rad hard stuff only lasts so long after the main shielding's rendered potentially ineffective. So some TV, radio, GPS etc. will probably be knocked offline, but there are always backups to those.

      Potentially more devestating would be power outages - these particles wreak havoc on the magnetosphere, and could induce severe currents in long haul power lines as magnetic induction induces current flows that trip protective breakers. (The Earth's magnetic field, weak as it is, being modified by the solar storms can induce significant currents over long enough stretches of wire). Source - http://www.agu.org/sci_soc/eiskappenman.html and http://www.spacew.com/gic/index.html

      Given the fragile state of the electric grid, having transmission lines tripping all the time will cause problems. Maybe to the point of the great blackout of 2003.

      On the other hand, this may be one of the last times of good sunspot activity without BPL interfering with worldwide communications, so as a ham, it could be the last time to enjoy it! (High sunspot activity also increases the ionosphere and makes long-range communications easier. Good sunspot activity can raise the frequency into the low VHF range).
    10. Re:wishing for news by Shaper_pmp · · Score: 0, Troll
      This story reminds me of the recent "predictions" of a potentially devastating hurricane season with greater than average frequency hurricanes and more of these hurricanes being Category 5 (the strongest hurricane defined). On what basis?


      Well, how about historical trends, climate modelling, the NOAA... need I go on?

      On the buzz around global warming and its effect on hurricanes among other things, and the recent "example" season of a record-breaking number of hurricanes. So, naturally the prediction for this season was "lots of big hurricanes". I'm not sure, but so far I don't recall any hurricanes well into the season


      Right, because the one thing we all know about the weather is that it's famously predictable and regular.

      Like, if they predict rain for the coming week, it means it's going to rain every single day, every single hour, everywhere, doesn't it?

      Or, just perhaps, the trend is that hurricanes are increasing in frequency and violence... and a single point of anecdotal data is, y'know, completely irrelevant?

      Sure enough, looking at the recent trends in hurricane frequency and violence for the North Atlantic/Caribbean alone, we see a fairly sharp upswing since about 1996.

      And sure enough, the trend isn't regular as clockwork - in fact, 1997 has one of the lowest frequencies for years.

      We know more than ever about the sun, but the more we know the less we know how to predict what it's going to do... "Satellite operators and NASA mission planners are bracing for this next solar cycle because it is expected to be exceptionally stormy, perhaps the stormiest in decades".... That is purely conjecture -- no more likely to be correct than not.


      I don't know if you've ever heard of an estimate? It's different to a guess. That means while an estimate may turn out to be wrong, it's based on some evidence at least. A guess can be pulled out of your arse at a moment's notice (and should be taken as such), but an estimate (by definition) implies some calculation and reasoning, even if from incomplete information.

      Normally, I'd agree with your sentiment - the news media is far too eager to find things for us to be scared of, and people tend to just lap it up without any critical thought or further research.

      However, you've just done the opposite - because of your pre-existing prejudice you've blithely assumed there's nothing to the prediction without even taking the few seconds' Googling it took to show you were wrong.
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    11. Re:wishing for news by bluprint · · Score: 2, Informative

      but the fact that the science is imperfect does not warrant discounting these observations altogether.

      But to the parent's point, it may indeed warrant discounting predictions.

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    12. Re:wishing for news by CantGetAUserName · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but at 3 * 10^-9 Hz it's an easy mistake to make...

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    13. Re:wishing for news by KlomDark · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What?? 85 degrees? That's actually cool for August. Unless you're talking about some Midwest other than the one I live in (Nebraska), where we're usually floating near 100 this time of the year. We had a couple of 104 degree days in late July, but other than that, it's a cool day.

      Also, here in Omaha, we're like 4 inches above normal rainfall. There have been heavy rains here around 7 of the last 14 days.

      Not that I don't think we should get away from the coal-fired plants, as they put a lot more crap (including radioactive crap) in the air every year than a couple of nuclear bombs. No wonder smoking is down but lung cancer is up.

    14. Re:wishing for news by Pharmboy · · Score: 1

      More importantly, we can start queing the "It's bacause of all those SUV's in America". I'm not sure how, but surely someone will be able to find a way to link it...

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    15. Re:wishing for news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha, yeah, anyone blaiming SUV's for anything is stupid, because someone might blame something unrelated on them.

      BTW. I have never heard anyone blame sunspots on anything terresterial.

      Strawman fallacy, look it up.

    16. Re:wishing for news by iocat · · Score: 1

      Weather porn has gotten out of hand in the US. I was basically surprised we didn't see any WC reporters actually orgasm when Katrina hit New Orleans.

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  2. Cool by FlyByPC · · Score: 2, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our thermonuclear neighbor's unruliness. (The last time it acted up, we got to see the aurora here in Virginia -- which is VERY rare at this latitude!)

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    1. Re:Cool by saskboy · · Score: 1

      The last huge storm I saw was in July 2004. The lights were south beyond the 90 degree point overhead, and there was a vortex even.

      Solar minimum wasn't too long ago.

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  3. somewhere out there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    somewhere out there, democrat/republican thinktanks are thinking of ways to tweak this to say it proves/debunks that global warming exists.

    1. Re:somewhere out there by totallygeek · · Score: 1
      somewhere out there, democrat/republican thinktanks are thinking of ways to tweak this to say it proves/debunks that global warming exists.


      This will be the catalyst for them to start worrying about 'solar warming'. "Cycles? My fellow Americans, do not believe that for a second. The sun is a violent, chaotic planet and it must be cooled or removed from our universe. The more that yellow thing in our atmosphere is allowed to shine, the worse our global warming will be."

  4. In the words of Jon Stewart.. by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 3, Funny

    ..Sun ANGRY! Sun KILL!!

    1. Re:In the words of Jon Stewart.. by wooferhound · · Score: 1

      We need to sacrifice a Virgin to the Sun . . .

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  5. Uh oh by LSD-OBS · · Score: 1, Funny

    it is expected to be exceptionally stormy, perhaps the stormiest in decades

    OMG, they were right - pollution & global warming are destroying the sun! :)

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    1. Re:Uh oh by SnowZero · · Score: 1

      Can't say the Sierra Club (and Al Gore) didn't warn you.

      Maybe superman shouldn't have thrown all those nuclear weapons at the sun in the late 1980's...

  6. Waiting by Jon+Luckey · · Score: 1, Funny

    Just waiting for someone to blame global warming for this reverse sun spot.

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    1. Re:Waiting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *cough*

      Beat you by five minutes =)

    2. Re:Waiting by Diss+Champ · · Score: 1

      Nah, it's a _reverse_ sunspot. It gets credit if the temperatures go down.

    3. Re:Waiting by Drakai · · Score: 1

      Does it affect overall energy output?

    4. Re:Waiting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, only you reactionary wingnuts.

      You'd probably have better luck waiting for someone to blame 9/11 for it.

    5. Re:Waiting by Jon+Luckey · · Score: 4, Insightful
      *cough*

      Beat you by five minutes =)

      Yeah, because it took me more than 5 to RTFM and read the posted comments then post myself.

      After posting I get a new refresh of the article. Crap, a couple other people make comments along the same lines, and slashdot doesn't let you cancel a comment.

      So I get a redundent mod.

      Wish the durn moderators would take the Nyquist Sampling Theorem into account befor modding.

      And I bet this comment if more than 5 minutes after you coughed too. :)

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    6. Re:Waiting by infolib · · Score: 1
      After posting I get a new refresh of the article. Crap, a couple other people make comments along the same lines, and slashdot doesn't let you cancel a comment.

      So I get a redundent mod.

      Wish the durn moderators would take the Nyquist Sampling Theorem into account befor modding.

      I disagree. The moderation is for the benefit of readers and to them your comment is indeed redundant. Ok, it sucks to be you right now, but if you honestly try to contribute to civilized discussion you'll end up with excellent karma anyway, even with the occasional slip.
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    7. Re:Waiting by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      mods and mod points and karma, who cares? Seriously? It's not a contest, and /. karma doesn't translate into personal success (ok, maybe for some it does, there's rubber rooms for them)

      I wish the trolls would go away as much as anyone, maybe if you don't have good karma, your postings would be delayed for 10 or 20 minutes? (Allowing them to be pushed down in sequence). It would also ameliorate all those stupid GNAA and goat.se postings.

      In any case, unless you have bad posting habits, one redundant posting isn't going to affect your karma.

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  7. Samuel Jackson's next movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Protons on a shuttle

    1. Re:Samuel Jackson's next movie by Tyler+Durden · · Score: 1

      Protons on a Blimp - The Story of the Hindenburg

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  8. Clearly this was caused by solar warming by wbtotb · · Score: 1

    When will we learn to take care of our environment?!

    1. Re:Clearly this was caused by solar warming by LordKazan · · Score: 1

      sunspots are actually cool points on the surface of the sun, hence them being comparatively dark

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    2. Re:Clearly this was caused by solar warming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I guess you answered this guy's question

    3. Re:Clearly this was caused by solar warming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How dare you use actual science against a perfectly good troll!

  9. Nope, Al Qaeda by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    It's god damned terrorists, I tell you. They're trying to take out all our satellite communications. How better to strike at the heart of Americans than to deprive them of their DirecTV, their Dish, they're Cable TV*. Oh, this is truly despicable.

    We must hunt them down and stop them from destroying our way of life. Please, if you won't think of the children, think of the parents who will have no TV to use as a babysitter 10 hours a day. Tragedy, I tell you.

    *preemptive troll clarification: Yes, much of the content on cable TV still comes in over satellite before they push it to your home over wires.

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    1. Re:Nope, Al Qaeda by Jonathan_S · · Score: 1
      It's god damned terrorists, I tell you. They're trying to take out all our satellite communications. How better to strike at the heart of Americans than to deprive them of their DirecTV, their Dish, they're Cable TV*. Oh, this is truly despicable.
      Honestly, I know cable TV isn't popular with some people. But is that any reason to call Cable TV terrorists?
    2. Re:Nope, Al Qaeda by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      Doh! Got me. I was going somwhere else with that sentence when I thought to add cable tv. Honest...I'm usually more careful with that sort of stuff.

      And, for the record, YES, they are terrorists. I used to cower in the corner every month when the bill came.

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  10. What? by Red+Flayer · · Score: 3, Funny
    Trivia: The coordinates of the July 31st sunspot were 65 W, 13 S. It if had popped up at those coordinates on Earth, it would have been in Bolivia, making it a "South American" sunspot.
    Seeing that longitudinal zero is completely arbitrary (both for Earth and Sol), I find this statement to be laughable.

    If this sunspot had popped up at those coordinates on Earth, I think we'd actually all be dead, or at least severely discomforted.
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    1. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is it laughable? The comparison between bolivia and the sunspot is listed under 'Trivia', and relational coordinates, no matter how arbitrary, at least let us know where sunspots occur in relation to each other.

      Admittedly, these types of comparisons are useless, but they crop up again and again in pop sci literature since people seem to like trivia.

    2. Re:What? by harrkev · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Seeing that longitudinal zero is completely arbitrary (both for Earth and Sol)
      At least for earth, there is a physical stop that you can point your finger at and say "that is longitude zero". For the sun, how the heck do you measure longitude on a sphere with no permanent features?
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    3. Re:What? by Sabalon · · Score: 1

      And I can then say "But no...I'm french. Longitude Zero is not where you are pointing. Longitude zero is over here. No go away or I shall taunt you a second time."

    4. Re:What? by Red+Flayer · · Score: 2, Informative
      For the sun, how the heck do you measure longitude on a sphere with no permanent features?
      No permanent features -- but there are periodic relative positions than can be used to assign longitude. The easiest one, of course, would be the relative position of the Earth. Since we know the Earth's orbit, we can just use trig, along with the date and time, to determine longitude on the sun.

      Yes, it's not direct observation, but it works -- and it's no less arbitrary that Greenwich being Earth longitude zero.
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    5. Re:What? by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 1
      let us know where sunspots occur in relation to each other.
      Yes. Despite being arbitrary, it gives a useful way to say where sunspots are relative to each other. Ie. the absolute longitude is arbitrary, but the differences are not, making them useful. But to talk about a single sunspot's longitude is completely and utterly pointless. What's not to laugh at?

      people seem to like trivia.
      People like these kinds of trivia because they have been misled into thinking they are meaningful facts.

      Yesterday I learned what the French call pop science. "Vulgarisation scientifique." I think I'll use the literal translation in English from now on.

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  11. Interesting, but cycle 24 prediction may be wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There are a number of sunspot predictions for cycle 24 that call for the weakest (ie. least stormy) sunspot cycle in 100 years. The method predicting a stromy cycle 24 is a new theory and has only been correlated against past cycles. It's predictive value hasn't been demonstrated yet. On the other hand, the precursor method has been used for at least one cycle already. Only time will tell. One of the latest reports is at the address below:

    http://www.leif.org/research/Polar%20Fields%20and% 20Cycle%2024.pdf

  12. As to the hurricanes by WindBourne · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, you may wish to read up on Dr. Grey's site. He is the gentleman who was able to start the hurricane prediction by noticing a tie to just a few indicators. First off, overall, he has quite a few good years of predicting the storms. 2'nd, he believes that we will see more intense hurricanes. 3'rd, he does NOT believe that it will occur due to global warming, just due to cycles. Finally, a season that has started like this is a bit worrisome, because it does not match predictions that have been rather accurate for several decades now. So, the question is, is this just an anomoly or is there a new player in the prediction factors? Perhaps one that has not been noticed for 3 decades? Or perhaps much longer.

    At any rate, if this season continues being this far out of whack, then I suspect that the meterologist such as Dr. Grey and others will be very interested in what is going on.

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  13. how do they *know*? by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 1

    I'd never heard of a "backwards" sunspot before, but after RingTFA I understood that; that the sun's cycle is caused by flipping polarities. I thought this was very interesting.

    What I didn't get was, how do they KNOW the polarity of the sunspot? There shouldn't be a pattern difference between the two poles, should there? They ought to be equal. Are they using a special sensor on one of the solar satellites? How would you possibly detect the magnetic polarity of even so large a phenomenon from a distance and among the other magnetic and electric fields the sun throws at you?

    1. Re:how do they *know*? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can easily find the magnetic field strength in a cloud of gas at a distance by taking an spectrum and looking at an effect called "Zeeman splitting". Polarity, I'm not sure about. "Faraday rotation" perhaps.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeeman_effect
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_effect

      They're both a bit obscure to someone without a bit of physics background I'm afraid.

    2. Re:how do they *know*? by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can 'see' polarity of sunspots almost directly. In fact, here are some pictures. You can read the strength of the magnetic field by looking how the energy levels of atoms are modified. As an electron falls from one level to another it emits electromagnetic radiation with an energy corresponding to the difference. In particular, certain configurations of atoms which are normally indistinguishable, because the difference between them is simply that electron spins have been flipped, become distinct in the presence of magnetic fields, because a magentic field causes one or other energy level to be 'preferred'. This modifies the frequencies of the emitted radiation which we can then observe. This is known as Zeeman splitting. Additionally, we can read off the polarity of the fields from the polarisation of the radiation.

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    3. Re:how do they *know*? by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 1

      Not the Faraday effect. That's a rotation of the polarization of EM radiation as it travels through a medium. The Faraday effect can be used, however, to determine the magnetic field in the Sun's corona. It can also tell us about the density of electrons in the corona if we know the polarization of the radiation when it starts out on its journey towards us.

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  14. An Inconvenient Truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well if this doesn't convince people that global warming is for real, I don't know what will.

  15. great news! by scharkalvin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe 10 meters will open up for DX again.

    1. Re:great news! by popsicle67 · · Score: 1

      cq cq cq dx

  16. Solar Storms and Satellites by matthewcraig · · Score: 1

    Anyone else remember all the Slashdot/science stories posted in the last several years? "Large solar storms were imminent and society was at risk, since the storm's radiation would wipe out the computers/circuits/memory/whatever." I remember quite a few, and I would wait and never hear the ramifications of these celestially devastating events. So, Anyone have any more insight into the results, or was this just another case of the news media screaming, "The sky is falling!"?

  17. It *has* been a big year for hurricanes by geckoFeet · · Score: 1

    Well, technically not hurricanes, but typhoons, which are hurricanes hiding out in the western Pacific. China has been hit with a record-breaking number (8), including some serious monsters.

    1. Re:It *has* been a big year for hurricanes by Griffinart · · Score: 2, Interesting

      8 named storms so far in the Pacific. By this time last year there had been 8 named storms as well. 7 by this time next week in 2004, 10 named storms by the end of august 2003, 8 by the end of august 2002. Hardly anything more frequent that average. In the Atlantic, on the other hand, we've had 3 named storms so far, none were hurricanes, and they think its going to remain quiet for the next couple of weeks. By then end of August last year we had 12 named storms including Katrina. The Atlantic averages 12 to 16 named storms a year. At this years rate, we're looking at a very quiet year, the global amount of storms will still be significantly down from average.

    2. Re:It *has* been a big year for hurricanes by fdiskne1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      At this years rate, we're looking at a very quiet year, the global amount of storms will still be significantly down from average.

      And they will blame the lack of storms on the climate change brought about by global warming.

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    3. Re:It *has* been a big year for hurricanes by geckoFeet · · Score: 1

      Global warming predictions are not for more storms but for more intense storms. The typhoons this year include the strongest storm ever to enter the South China Sea in May (Chanchu), the highest hourly rainfall ever to hit the Hong Kong Observatory (the monsoon behind Bilis), and the strongest storm to hit China in 50 years (Saomai).

    4. Re:It *has* been a big year for hurricanes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Global warming predictions have been pretty much across the board, at least in the popular media. It's almost as if they're setting it up so that whatever happens, someone will be able to say, "no we didn't predict that, we predicted this, and this is what happened." regardless of what this and that are.

  18. Sacrifice by bvwj · · Score: 1

    So what part of my lifestyle must I sacrifice in the attempt to prevent this phenomena?

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  19. Global Warming? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It'll be fun to watch the environmentalist wackos find a way to blame this on the CO2 emmissions from the US. Maybe global warming can affect the Sun in some sort of cosmic "feedback loop".

    1. Re:Global Warming? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm, most "environmentalist wackos" are actually experts in both space and atmospheric studies. So if they know about global warming, they're going to know enough to know that such claims are retarded. The thought of bringing in global warming as a cause of solar cycles (even to disprove the connection) is only done by anti-environmentalist wackos who don't know anything about either subject to begin with.

  20. Inconvenient Truth? by sottitron · · Score: 1

    Uh Oh, Looks like Solar System Warming is real after all.

  21. You read the articles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You must be new here.

  22. Just remember, this is all Bush's fault... by Kymermosst · · Score: 1

    If it wasn't for Dubya and all of his oil-thirsty friends, there wouldn't be an increase in solar activity. If we'd signed Kyoto we could stop this from happening and return the Sun to normal!

    Bad humans!

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    1. Re:Just remember, this is all Bush's fault... by Geoff · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that was my reaction to this as well. How long until some high-profile Democrat makes a statement not too far from this?

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  23. Why does the sun... by cpu_fusion · · Score: 1

    ... hate our freedoms?

  24. Earth's Magnetic Field? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    Does anybody know if the decrease in the strength of the Earth's magentic field is being studied in regards to global warming? We're due for a flip in the not to distant future and IIRC it's been decreasing for about 150 years. As it keeps radiation from hitting the Earth, one might consider that as it decreases more radiation hits the Earth, causing some degree of increased energy input. One doesn't hear too much about this in the popular science press.

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  25. You wasted even more time logging in! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure, posting AC doesn't do much for the karma rating, but it improves the turnaround! (and what difference does it make if the mods're sampling Nyquil except that that could make them slower too?)