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A Plant That Can Smell

BlueCup writes "The question of how a dodder finds a host plant has puzzled researchers. Many thought it simply grew in a random direction, with discovery of a plant to attack being a chance encounter. But the researchers led by Consuelo M. De Moraes found that if they placed tomato plants near a germinating dodder, the parasite headed for the tomato 80 percent of the time. And when they put scent chemicals from a tomato on rubber, 73 percent of the dodder seedlings headed that way. Turns out, it sniffs out it's prey."

119 comments

  1. attack of the killer... by User+956 · · Score: 4, Funny

    But the researchers led by Consuelo M. De Moraes found that if they placed tomato plants near a germinating dodder, the parasite headed for the tomato 80 percent of the time. And when they put scent chemicals from a tomato on rubber, 73 percent of the dodder seedlings headed that way. Turns out, it sniffs out it's prey.

    See, now I would have thought that it would have been the tomatoes that made the first strike...

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    1. Re:attack of the killer... by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

      See, now I would have thought that it would have been the tomatoes that made the first strike...

      In sovi.......never mind.

    2. Re:attack of the killer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, in the original, the tomato shot first!

      Where's Lucas?

    3. Re:attack of the killer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1 millionth telling, and still getting a +5. Why the hell do I even come here anymore? Please mod parent down so it doesn't show up.

    4. Re:attack of the killer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are just jellus that somebody beat you to it

  2. Hmm... sounds dubious.... by Rooked_One · · Score: 1, Funny

    its more likely the plants are using the force... i'm not kidding man!!! Have you seen the size of the midichlorians on tomatoes??? I'd want to get close to them too!

  3. Another name by MarkRose · · Score: 4, Informative

    A dodder is also known as a Cuscuta.

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    Be relentless!
    1. Re:Another name by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well Mark, you of all people should know that a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

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      "I've got more toys than Teruhisa Kitahara."
    2. Re:Another name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not if they were called stench blossoms.

    3. Re:Another name by spagetti_code · · Score: 1

      Thats not a dodder... Thats a triffid!

    4. Re:Another name by kestasjk · · Score: 3, Funny

      That which we call a dodder by any other word would smell tomatoes.

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    5. Re:Another name by kestasjk · · Score: 0, Redundant

      A dodder by any other name would smell tomatoes.

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    6. Re:Another name by MarkRose · · Score: 1
      That which we call a dodder by any other word would smell tomatoes.

      Such a rosy world we live in, no? :-)

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      Be relentless!
    7. Re:Another name by MarkRose · · Score: 1

      You so missed the irony, dude.

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      Be relentless!
    8. Re:Another name by albyrne5 · · Score: 1

      And you missed the (admittedly misquoted) Simpsons reference. Shame on you.

    9. Re:Another name by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      What if they called it Elf Grass?

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      You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
  4. re:FIRST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    YOUFAILIT!

  5. Well, duh. by Assassin+bug · · Score: 2, Informative

    Somehow I think that plant pathologists have probably noticed this for decades. It a pretty useful lab plant for moving pathogens between plants in interesting ways. Dodder is grown in plant path greenhouses commonly and usually near host plants.

  6. Plants that remember people by Yo+Grark · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I can't find anything on google about it, but there was a tale of an experiment where a man went into a greenhouse and hacked up all the plants.

    A bunch of scientific equipment was setup to measure plants behaviour/electrical impulses.

    They then had 10 people walk through the room and when the man who hacked the plants entered the room the plants sent off strong/furious signals.

    I always wondered if this was a true experiment or urban legend...but with this species of plants sensing different kinds of chemicals, it just might have been real.

    Yo Grark

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    1. Re:Plants that remember people by lexarius · · Score: 3, Informative

      The way I heard it was: Two plants of the same species were placed in a room with the sensors attached. A man walked in and brutally hacked one of the plants apart and then left. After that, the surviving plant gave off the 'fear' signal whenever people walked in the room. Or something like that.

    2. Re:Plants that remember people by qbwiz · · Score: 1

      How can you tell if a plant's feeling fear? Does it start quivering (or is that just the wind of people coming in)?

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      Ewige Blumenkraft.
    3. Re:Plants that remember people by khallow · · Score: 1
      They then had 10 people walk through the room and when the man who hacked the plants entered the room the plants sent off strong/furious signals.

      What sort of signals does a plant send? Doesn't seem much point if it can't do anything about it.

    4. Re:Plants that remember people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are thinking of the movie: Little house of horrors. It had a plant that could do many things.

    5. Re:Plants that remember people by lexarius · · Score: 1

      According to the story it was some sort of electrical or perhaps pheremonal signal. I don't recall. They don't really have nervous systems, but they have some decentralized method of passing information around and interacting with their environment. Very slowly, in most cases.

    6. Re:Plants that remember people by sumdumass · · Score: 2, Informative

      Plants send all kinds of signals. The problem is that this urban legend has to interpret those signals without much of any interaction from the plant. When I first heard of it, it was being used by people trying to counter vegetarian's arguments about how animals feels when they are butchered(sometime in the 70's).

      The story goes that scientist conected an EKG machine and watched for signs of brian patterns. When the plant apeared excited they interpreted it as emotion. I didn't think it was actualy true but i found a few posts about it.

      http://skepdic.com/plants.html
      http://forums.teamphoenixrising.net/showthread.php ?t=23171

      Take them with a grain of salt.

    7. Re:Plants that remember people by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

      The way I heard it was: Two plants of the same species were placed in a room with the sensors...

      Well, I heard it like this: A plant, a Nun, and a Rabbi walked into a bar....

    8. Re:Plants that remember people by krotkruton · · Score: 1

      mythbusters attacked that idea:
      video on youtube
      wikipedia (under Primary Perception)

    9. Re:Plants that remember people by radarsat1 · · Score: 4, Funny
      Very slowly, in most cases.


      Well, of course it's slowly, it takes a very long time to say anything in Old Entish.
    10. Re:Plants that remember people by AuMatar · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Mythbusters did this one recently. It was completely busted- the lie detector "signals" were caused by vibrations in the plant from human motion.

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    11. Re:Plants that remember people by kfg · · Score: 1

      A bunch of scientific equipment was setup to measure plants behaviour/electrical impulses.

      Setting up a bunch of scientific equipment is not what makes an experiment scientific.

      KFG

    12. Re:Plants that remember people by nmb3000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The story goes that scientist conected an EKG machine and watched for signs of brian patterns. When the plant apeared excited they interpreted it as emotion. I didn't think it was actualy true but i found a few posts about it.

      Mythbusters actually took a shot at this one (episode 61). They tried hooking up both a polygraph (as the original guy did) as well as an EKG machine. What they found is that there initially appeared to be a response, but once they isolated themselves from the plant they were testing, the apparent response went away. Kinda dumb, but somewhat interesting.

      If you're interested, you can get it here or wait for it to be on Discovery again.

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    13. Re:Plants that remember people by nebbian · · Score: 1

      Read The Secret life of Plants. It will open your eyes.

      There are numerous experiments described where the scientists hook up polygraphs to plants, get one person to just think about smashing the plant, burning leaves, that sort of thing, and the plant would go psycho. Other people who loved plants would be put into the same room and the plant would exhibit totally different behaviours.

      One guy actually controlled his garage door by hooking up a philodendron to an amplifier, and he could open the door just by thinking "Love" at his plant.

      Fantastic stuff!

    14. Re:Plants that remember people by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 1

      I believe you are looking for Plant Parapsychology-- where plants can allegedly "detect" human actions.

      In the late 1980s, I watched videos of similar experiments performed in the Soviet Union (During a Nova or other PBS program). I remember these experiments pretty vividly-- how could anyone push such fraud?

      I remember something more like a lab-like setting--- there was a single plant, or a handful of similar plants. A researcher would enter the room and hack up a single plant while other researchers measured the "Panic" signals. Then he would leave. The same man returned later, and the experimenters measured the same signals. Sometimes they measured the same "panic" signals from the neighboring plants.

      In similar experiments, the researcher would attempt to "mentally stimulate" the plant by thinking violent thoughts.

      Apparently some of these experiments were propaganda of some sort, or were unfairly promoted by an influential official of the Communist Party in order to promote a particular view--- something like "We can use plants to detect human presence around our military bases" or something similar.

      If you search around for other Soviet experiments involving ESP or metaphysics, you can find some similar fraudulant experiments. I don't know if the Soviets were trying to provoke the US Government into wasting money or not--- the CIA had some interest in some Remote Viewing experiements (2.0 2.

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    15. Re:Plants that remember people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I saw that episode and I call BS. AFAIK, the polygraph machine and the EEG machine they used measure different electrical characteristics; a vet EEG is supposed to be different from a human EEG so why would a human EEG measure the correct results from a plant?

      They got inconclusive results from the polygraph machine, even when it was outside the trailer, IIRC. There was no way vibrations caused those readings. They got no readings from the EEG machine which doesn't necessarily prove anything. It just means there were no electrical signals from the plant, which makes sense because they don't have nerves like we do. I don't remember if they said what exactly they measured using the polygraph machine. Also, they didn't reconduct their fire extinguisher or other physical tests w/ the EEG attached. All they tested were "mental" attacks that didn't recreate the original experiments.

      So, IMO, they didn't prove conclusively that plant don't have "feelings". All they proved is that an human EEG meter doesn't get a reading from a plant but a polygraph machine gets does get results, all be it inconclusive.

  7. ObJoke by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Funny

    My dodder has no nose.
    How does it smell?
    Terrible!

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    "I've got more toys than Teruhisa Kitahara."
  8. Re:While My Guitar Gently Weeps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A bass guitar in spider webs / Longing for the funk
    Uzi gun takes its place / in a wagon trunk

  9. Well, this plant can reallly smell!.. by RuBLed · · Score: 1

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafflesia

    That is how I interpreted the title. :)

    1. Re:Well, this plant can reallly smell!.. by Naughty+Bob · · Score: 1

      I know what you mean about the interpretation- The plants growing in my basement can be smelt across the street....

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    2. Re:Well, this plant can reallly smell!.. by cafucu · · Score: 1

      This one smells a bit, too.

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  10. Smelling Plants by pipingguy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Nothing new here, as apparently, this one smells quite a lot.

    1. Re:Smelling Plants by Gadgetfreak · · Score: 1

      Oh, it does. I went back to my alma mater (UConn) in 2003 to see/smell one bloom.

      I walked by that greenhouse every day for 4 years to go to the engineering building, but never once stopped to smell the roses. But I drove 45 minutes to smell a flower that reminded me of dirty diapers and week-old roadkill.

      I think that's pretty impressive for a plant... it didn't smell its way to survival, it stunk its way to worldwide growth and protection.

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      "No fair, you changed the outcome by measuring it!" - Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth
  11. In Soviet Russia... by JeepFanatic · · Score: 1, Redundant

    ...you don't smell the plants, the plants smell you.

    1. Re:In Soviet Russia... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...you don't smell the plants, the plants smell you.

      Congratulations! You've screwed up the In Soviet Russia joke! You are hereby banned from /. until you can manage a full-blown Yakov Smirnov impression, to be sent to Google Video. (Youtube is not geeky enough for a full repreive.)

    2. Re:In Soviet Russia... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'd think Google would have a translator for this. All they'd have to do is flip the subject and object and leave out everything except the noun and the verb.

      "In Soviet Russia, flowers smell you!"

    3. Re:In Soviet Russia... by patman600 · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't the more appropriate comment be: "In Soviet Russia, the roses stop and smell you!"

  12. Attack of the Killer Plants? by resistant · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If the genetic engineering wizards could find out how to transplant this characteristic to, say, aquatic plants, perhaps they could modify them to attack the destructive zebra mussels that are such a major problem in the Great Lakes, or to control problem plants such as hydrilla verticillata.

    It's an fun thought, even if I lack the background to evaluate its feasibility.

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    1. Re:Attack of the Killer Plants? by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 2, Funny

      I can just see that getting out of control. You'll find yourself struggling to stay awake one night. Every time you blink and open your eyes again, it seems like your potted fern is a little closer to you. You'll be fine. Just go back to sleep...

  13. when I first saw it by khallow · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was hiking with my parents in the Shining Rock Wildnerness, an area in western North Carolina. Part of the wilderness was burned out sometime in the 1920's and the burn formed a long lasting grassland along several peaks. We hiked it sometime in the early 90's and it was the first time I saw dodder. It was this strange mat of oranged colored leafless vines, much like this growing on a particularly plant (very similar to what is in the photograph, I believe). The strange thing is that we had hiked this trail over many years and had never seen this before. So we wondered at first if it were some new invasive species from elsewhere. Turns out that this was native to the area, but for whatever reason it never had grown this prolifically before. Definitely one of the strangest plants I've ever run across.

    1. Re:when I first saw it by AnotherAaron · · Score: 1

      Sounds like you were in Graveyard Fields....I used to camp there all the time when I was in high school. You're right though, I never saw that plant in any abundance in that area....

    2. Re:when I first saw it by khallow · · Score: 1

      Yea. I think it was all along the Art Loeb trail from Black Balsam peak to well inside the Shining Rock Wilderness. But now that you mention it, most of that area is actually just to the south of Shining Rock Wilderness in Graveyard Fields. Been a while since I was last there.

    3. Re:when I first saw it by rizole · · Score: 1

      I germinated some alfalfa this year - just because - and there must have been some(a) dodder seed(s) in with it. I thought it was just part of the alfalfa at first until it went after some basil growing on my window sill.
      Here's a pic and here it is flowering
      Good stuff.

  14. Is that a whiff of ... creeping apostrophitis? by ScentCone · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Turns out, it sniffs out it's prey
    Yes, but can it sniff out the difference between "it's" (it is) and "its" (the thing that belongs to it)? Come on, now, it's just one stinking paragraph to edit!

    That being said, I've often observed, in the jungle-like Maryland suburbs, the seemingly impossible reach and accuracy of certain smothering, viney plants. The twisty, strangling, inescapable spread of warm, fuzzy-looking faux-friendliness - it's amazing. And that's just the PTA members! You should see the Kudzu!

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  15. Great by Ucklak · · Score: 1

    First you have the so called animal rights nutjobs that want everyone to stop eating meat, next we're going to have plant right whacks that want to ban us from eating plants.
    What the hell is left to eat? If it isn't organic, the granola crowd isn't going to bite, and if it's manufactured (genetically engineered), we'll have activists spouting the dangers of modified DNA.

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    1. Re:Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have YOU ever seen a head of lettuce roll away from a farmer? At least cows have the ability to attempt an escape, or get the satisfaction of kicking a farmer.

    2. Re:Great by c_forq · · Score: 1

      The answer is simple: Soylent Green.

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    3. Re:Great by Jeremi · · Score: 2, Funny
      What the hell is left to eat?


      Eating is so passe. Cut out the middle man, learn to photosynthesize!

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    4. Re:Great by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      You've never spent time around cows. Cows are really stupid. I once watched a guy shoot a cow in the head right in front of all of the other cows. They didn't try to "escape" or "kick" or anything. They just continued to stand there, like cows.

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    5. Re:Great by Ucklak · · Score: 1

      If the cows can't escape, then that's their problem.
      Heads of lettuce can't escape either but according to the above articles and Mythbusters, these plants defintely do send distress signals when being attacked. Make of it what you will, soon there will be a plants right nutjob wanting us to eat some sort meal made from bacteria.

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  16. mod by iamstretchypanda · · Score: 1

    lol mod up

  17. FSM lives! by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Flying Speghetti Monster is seeking out holy tomato sauce! I believe I belieeeeeve!

  18. Already have it. by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1
    I can smell something after I eat asparagus.

    Asparagus is a plant.

    Therefore plants smell!

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    This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
  19. Not really by DrKyle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Smell is not just chemoattraction. Plants also grow in the direction of sunlight, does that mean they can see? They grow away from gravity, does that mean they can feel?

  20. Re:While My Guitar Gently Weeps by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Um, wouldn't this be "while my guitar gently creeps"?

  21. rubber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    And when they put scent chemicals from a tomato on rubber, 73 percent of the dodder seedlings headed that way.

    Maybe the dodder seedlings just needed a rubber before approaching the tomato plants?

  22. Here's the NPR audio and pictures by JavaManJim · · Score: 5, Informative
  23. Acacia by Xybot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Acacia tree is sensitive to chemicals given off by other Acacia trees when they are damaged. It responds by increasing it's Tannin production in order to help ward off possible predators. I'm not sure of what the scientific definition of smell is, but I'd probably define it as "the ability to sense the existance of airborne chemicals".

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    1. Re:Acacia by lawpoop · · Score: 1

      My guess would be that the definition of smell is simply chemical detection ( as opposed to light detection, vibration detection, heat detection, etc. ). IIRC in plant biology class, groves of trees often communicate through their underground rood network , which is often more intimate than their top-side relationships.

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    2. Re:Acacia by bar-agent · · Score: 1
      I'm not sure of what the scientific definition of smell is, but I'd probably define it as "the ability to sense the existance of airborne chemicals".

      Ah, but here we have a plant that can not only sense the existence but also the direction of airborne chemicals. That makes a big difference.
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  24. And that surprises anyone? by NerveGas · · Score: 4, Interesting


        Even *single-cell* flagellates have what can be considered a rusimentary sense of smell, and the capability of changing their locomotion in order to lead them to food. That sort of ability is present all the way up through the multicellular ladder, and "smell" (or response to airborne chemical signals) have been well-known for quite some time in plants.

        Frankly, I'm susprised that they didn't start out with an assumption that smell was involved.

    steve

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  25. Is that surprising? by Reality+Master+201 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Smell isn't anything more than detecting fairly dilute chemicals
    in the air. The fact that some species of plant have evolved to
    perform very specific kinds of chemical detection to ensure their
    survival doesn't seem surprising to me. Plants grow towards the
    light - why not towards other things that are essential for their
    survival.

    1. Re:Is that surprising? by Xerxes314 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, I would imagine it has to be a bit more sophisticated than phototropism. I mean, it's easy to detect light, and the side of something that isn't in the light is in shadow. So there's a clear, strong directional signal.

      With smell, on the other hand, you have to detect very minute gradients in a trace amount of chemical that's being dispersed in the air. When the front half of your plant is facing a tomato, it's really only seeing a tiny amount more tomato-smell than the back half due to the dispersion of the tomato-smell. Animals can resolve this problem just by moving their noses back and forth; you sample a bunch of locations and then move toward the smellier area. But a plant cannot so easily move about, so how they can detect the gradient is the real mystery.

    2. Re:Is that surprising? by Reality+Master+201 · · Score: 1

      Actually, no, I don't think one would have to detect minute gradients.

      Basically, you need a threshold value and it needs to be stronger across
      50% of your field of sensivity. If you grow 1cm per day, you grow in the
      direction in which the signal is strongest for one day. The next, you grow
      in the direction again. And again, again, again, etc, etc. It only takes
      being approximately right every day, and since your prey is stationary,
      you get to it eventually.

    3. Re:Is that surprising? by njh · · Score: 1

      I agree, we've known about plant pheremones for years. 'The private life of plants' talked about this 'plant sense of smell' and communication system and had nifty CG to explain. Maybe someone more planty than me can explain what the new result is?

  26. Sample size? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They don't mention what their sample size is, i.e., is it 100 plants?

    I can toss a coin 4 times, and let's say I get tails 3 times. Simultaneously, if I was tossing another coin nearby, and happen to get 3 tails out of 4 again on it too, can I conclude that the second coin supernaturally knew what the result on the other one was? BTW, the probability that the above happens is 1/16. Also, I can repeat this experiment many times to get this case.

    Obviously, those researchers are smart enough. My question is: how can they write such a big article without mentioning about the sample size?

    1. Re:Sample size? by WiFiBro · · Score: 1

      It's a Daily News article, what do you expect, chi squares?

    2. Re:Sample size? by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 1

      Because the action of the plant is not simply grow towards tomato plant/do not grow towards tomato plant. The dodder has the options of growing slightly to the right of the tomato, slightly to the left of it, up, down, away from it, slightly away from it.... and I'm missing about a million more options. Given the odds of growing towards the same smell twice in a row, which are about 1 million squared (you get the idea), we can safely assume that there is a specific process involved here. No need to repeat the same thing 1 million times.

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  27. Thats one complex plant.. by HatchedEggs · · Score: 1

    That is a strange and complex plant. There are really some fascinating plants out there though... though I have to admit that is in the top ten that I know of.

    Now if only we can genetically modify them to attack other Dodder plants.

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    1. Re:Thats one complex plant.. by gardyloo · · Score: 1


      Now if only we can genetically modify them to attack other Dodder plants.


            In related news, the 2010 Darwin Awards have been announced. . ..

    2. Re:Thats one complex plant.. by albyrne5 · · Score: 1

      Ha ha, no mod points, sorry, but I like it!

  28. Hmmm.... by brian0918 · · Score: 1

    It would seem that 7% of them had a stuffed nose at the time of the 2nd test...

    1. Re:Hmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't see what cricket has to do with this.

  29. Uhhh... by curecollector · · Score: 1

    Plenty of plants smell, especially those of the flowering variety. Amazing what you find when you go outside every once in a while.

    I kid, I kid...

  30. Dodder by Punctuated_Equilibri · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I got dodder in my garden from a basil plant I bought at a local nursery. That is one vicious weed. It's a parasitic rootless vine, hard to imagine if you've never seen it.

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  31. Grammar rock! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "its pray", not "it's pray" or "it is pray".

    1. Re:Grammar rock! by geminidomino · · Score: 2, Funny

      Right "its", wrong "prey."

  32. obligatory monty python by ImTheDarkcyde · · Score: 1

    I have a dog with no nose!

    -How does it smell?

    Terrible!

  33. Choice of quotes / author. by solanum · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hmmm, nice that the article doesn't mention the actual author of the paper (published in Science). Also not surprisingly, the actual paper doesn't talk about 'smell'. Oh and for the person going on about sample size, of course the paper gives sample sizes.

    Here's the abstract:

    Volatile Chemical Cues Guide Host Location and Host Selection by Parasitic Plants
    Justin B. Runyon, Mark C. Mescher, Consuelo M. De Moraes*

    The importance of plant volatiles in mediating interactions between plant species is much debated. Here, we demonstrate that the parasitic plant Cuscuta pentagona (dodder) uses volatile cues for host location. Cuscuta pentagona seedlings exhibit directed growth toward nearby tomato plants (Lycopersicon esculentum) and toward extracted tomato-plant volatiles presented in the absence of other cues. Impatiens (Impatiens wallerana) and wheat plants (Triticum aestivum) also elicit directed growth. Moreover, seedlings can distinguish tomato and wheat volatiles and preferentially grow toward the former. Several individual compounds from tomato and wheat elicit directed growth by C. pentagona, whereas one compound from wheat is repellent. These findings provide compelling evidence that volatiles mediate important ecological interactions among plant species.

    And here's the actual paper for those with access to Science articles:
        http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/reprint/313/5795/196 4.pdf

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  34. A meaty question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Technology Quarterly

    A meaty question
    Sep 21st 2006
    From The Economist print edition

    Biotechnology: Meat grown in vats, rather than in the form of animals, could soon be on the menu. It might even be healthier and better for you

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    IF YOU have ever longed for a meat substitute that smelt and tasted like the real thing, but did not involve killing an animal, then your order could be ready soon. Researchers believe it will soon be possible to grow cultured meat in quantities large enough to offer the meat industry an alternative source of supply.

    Growing muscle cells (the main component of meat) in a nutrient broth is easy. The difficulty is persuading those cells to form something that resembles real meat. Paul Kosnik, the head of engineering at a firm called Tissue Genesis, is hoping to do it by stretching the cells with mechanical anchors. This encourages them to form small bundles surrounded by connective tissue, an arrangement similar to real muscle.

    Robert Dennis, a biomedical engineer at the University of North Carolina, believes the secret of growing healthy muscle tissue in a laboratory is to understand how it interacts with its surroundings. In nature, tissues exist as elements in a larger system and they depend on other tissues for their survival. Without appropriate stimuli from their neighbours they degenerate. Dr Dennis and his team have been working on these neighbourly interactions for the past three years and report some success in engineering two of the most important—those between muscles and tendons, and muscles and nerves.

    At the Touro College School of Health Sciences in New York, Morris Benjaminson and his team are working on removing living tissue from fish, and then growing it in culture. This approach has the advantage that the tissue has a functioning system of blood vessels to deliver nutrients, so it should be possible to grow tissue cultures more than a millimetre thick—the current limit.

    Henk Haagsman, a meat scientist at the University of Utrecht in the Netherlands, is trying to make minced pork from cultured stem cells with the backing of Stegeman, a sausage company. It could be used in sausages, burgers and sauces.

    But why would anyone want to eat cultured meat, rather than something freshly slaughtered and just off the bone? One answer, to mix metaphors, is that it would allow vegetarians to have their meatloaf and eat it too. But the sausage-meat project suggests another reason: hygiene. As Ingrid Newkirk of PETA, an animal-rights group, puts it, “no one who considers what’s in a meat hot dog could genuinely express any revulsion at eating a clean cloned meat product.”

    Cultured meat could be grown in sterile conditions, avoiding Salmonella, E. coli, Campylobacter and other nasties. It could also be made healthier by adjusting its composition—introducing heart-friendly omega-3 fatty acids, for example. You could even take a cell from an endangered animal and, without threatening its extinction, make meat from it. Giant-panda steak, anyone?
     
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  35. I agree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    There must be something wrong with these people. It doesn't seem to matter how often they see "its" and "it's" used correctly, they don't learn. I would find it difficult to be so dense; but then again, I'm not stupid.

  36. Is this really smelling? by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1

    I'd have thought that smelling means that the plant has sophisticated analytical abilities. Surely calling this "smelling" is like saying that plants that follow the sun are "seeing".

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    1. Re:Is this really smelling? by max8061 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, IIRC, plants don't actually follow strong light. Light inhibits growth strangely enough. So plants don't follow the sun, it's just that the lighted side of the plant grows at a slower rate than the darker side, thus causing the plant to curve toward the light. At least, that's how I've always understood it.

    2. Re:Is this really smelling? by denebian+devil · · Score: 3, Informative

      While I might agree that plant's "grow" at a slower rate in more intense sunlight, I don't believe it's proper to say that sunlight inhibits growth. What happens is that when a plant is in sufficient sunlight, it can devote its nutrients to growing heartier rather than "bigger." Plants in sufficient sunlight tend to be short, but also have thicker stalks and fuller (though fewer) leaves. Plants in low light grow taller and lankier, because they are a) trying to maximize their surface area to most efficiently absorb as much sunlight as possible, both through sheer size and by producing more leaves, and b) potentially grow taller than whatever is obstructing their ability to get to the light (think of a bunch of plants all in close proximity on the ground. The taller the plant, the less likely it is to be oovered up by another plant. So if a plant is not getting enough sunlight, it's possibly because all the other plants around it are taller than it. Therefore the best response is to get even taller still).

      I don't have any studies, but I believe I've seen plants that shifted significantly after a change in the direction of the source of light (such as if you turn the plant 180 degrees after being in front of a window), a shift that occurred much too quickly to be explained away by the speed at which different sides of the plant grew.

    3. Re:Is this really smelling? by TubeSteak · · Score: 1
      I don't have any studies, but I believe I've seen plants that shifted significantly after a change in the direction of the source of light (such as if you turn the plant 180 degrees after being in front of a window), a shift that occurred much too quickly to be explained away by the speed at which different sides of the plant grew.
      Osmotic pressure in the leaves/stalk.
      aka "turgor changes" or "turgor movement"

      I thought everyone knew that.

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    4. Re:Is this really smelling? by dubiousmike · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When one smells aren't they absorbing tiny particles of whatever the "object" that is being "smelled" is releasing? Couldn't the plant be reacting to particles of what is it's food that happens to be floating in the air from a particular direction?

    5. Re:Is this really smelling? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I seem to recall that there is a difference between phototropism and the behaviour of a heliotrope, heliotropism doesn't require plant growth for movement. So some plants do follow the sun. Exposure to a good even light source does reduce growth rate as there is no need to move parts of the plant into a better lit situation.

    6. Re:Is this really smelling? by HeroreV · · Score: 1

      Hasn't anybody ever seen a flower follow the sun across the sky? Geez, you need to get out more. At least look out a window every few decades. Some flowers, like sunflowers, can do a complete 180 degree turn every day.

  37. Reminds me of an old joke by Centurix · · Score: 2, Funny

    Person 1: My Amorphophallus titanum has no nose!
    Person 2: How does it smell?
    Person 3: Fucking awful.

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  38. Slashdot has adapted... by Bros · · Score: 0

    ... nothing to smell for you here, please move along...

  39. Science 101. by TapeCutter · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Ummm, yeah, for decades they have noticed and made use of the host finding behaviour of the dodder.

    1. And assumed the dodders behaviour was explained by "random twisting".

    2. This experiment found that "random twisting" can not explain the dodders behaviour.

    3. Iff the experiment can be repeated, the assumption is broken. Science will look for a stronger explaination as to how the dodder finds a host.

    4. RTFA before "arse spraying" it with that boiling alkaline excretion of yours.

    5. ????

    6. Profit!

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  40. Tangent question about sense of smell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One question I've never thought of before..

    People and organisms are able to navigate by smell. But surely the molecules are fairly widely dispersed in the air? If we're talking about a couple of 'tomato molecules' wouldn't they equally well hit a microorganism from the side as from the front?

  41. not news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    not news.

    we already know that plants can smell from Thomas Boller

  42. Yawn by Jeppe+Salvesen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Plants react to stimuli - that's well-known. They grow in the direction of light, the fruits ripen when there is ethylene in the air. Hell - you even have insect-trapping plants..

    So, if there are unique chemicals that the prey species give off, there is no surprise the doddler can detect them and react to them. Cool that scientists did the study and found this example, though :)

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  43. Return of the killer tomatos ? by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1

    We got to greet these new tomato overlords ... bow//euh//crawl to them!

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  44. "It's" is a contraction of "it is" by Rogerborg · · Score: 1
    "Its" is the possessive.

    There is no charge for this editing service.

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  45. A plant.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A plant with a sense of smell? Seems to me that there's a vegetable running the whitehouse (some would say a whole garden full of them), so I don't see how this is so impressive.

    /ducks

  46. My plants can smell? by LinuxIsRetarded · · Score: 1

    I guess this means I shouldn't fart on them anymore.

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  48. Smelly socks anyone? by Ruvim · · Score: 1

    The true question is can we prevent a dodder from attacking a plant by placing smelly socks between them?

  49. Argh grammar! by TheMoog · · Score: 2, Informative
    Turns out, it sniffs out it's prey

    Ok flame-proof suit on, but "it's" is short for either "it is" or "it has". In this case the apostrophe isn't needed to denote ownership any more than you need an apostrophe in the words 'his' or 'hers'. More info at the Apostrophe Protection Society.
  50. Artful Dodders by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Interesting
    if they placed tomato plants near a germinating dodder, the parasite headed for the tomato 80 percent of the time. And when they put scent chemicals from a tomato on rubber, 73 percent of the dodder seedlings headed that way.


    The shocking revelation is that 7% of the dodders weren't fooled by the simulated tomato smell. Those dodders are seeing the fake tomato patches as a trick. Those are the dodders to watch.
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    1. Re:Artful Dodders by davidbrit2 · · Score: 1

      An interesting idea, but I'm not sure I would go that far without more testing. The 7% difference between the trials may be normal error imposed by chance. For example, it's entirely possible - and in fact, quite likely - that they could run the original experiment again and get a result a little different from 80% being found to be able to "smell" the tomatoes. It wouldn't necessarily mean that the plant got smarter or dumber between trials, just that chaos and chance provided a different result that time.

      Think of it this way: if you flip a coin, there's a 50% chance of it coming up heads, and a 50% chance of it coming up tails. Do a few trials of 100 flips, and see how often you get exactly the same percentages between trials.

    2. Re:Artful Dodders by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      We must investigate this further, if only to find out whether the dodders are really the brains behind The Attack of the Killer Tomatoes! And then hatch a scheme to stop their murderous rampages once and for all. Maybe a moratorium on ketchup will soothe their jihad...

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  51. I thought this was fairly evident when..... by Brad1138 · · Score: 1

    they kept at least 50' away from the skunk cabbage.

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  52. Even more interesting trivia... by alexo · · Score: 1