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Do Big Screens Make Employees More Productive?

prostoalex writes "If your company uses 17" or 19" monitors, 30" monitors will make the employees more productive, Apple-sponsored research says. MacWorld reports: "Pfeiffer's testing showed time savings of 13.63 seconds when moving files between folders using the larger screen — 15.7 seconds compared to 29.3 seconds on the 17-in. monitor — for a productivity gain of 46.45 percent. The testing showed a 65.09 percent productivity gain when dragging and dropping between images — a task that took 6.4 seconds on the larger monitor compared to 18.3 seconds using the smaller screen. And cutting and pasting cells from Excel spreadsheets resulted in a 51.31 percent productivity gain — a task that took 20.7 seconds on the larger monitor versus 42.6 seconds on the smaller screen."" Calling such task-specific speed jolts "productivity gains" seems optimistic unless some measure of overall producivity backs up that claim, but don't mention that on the purchase order request.

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  1. Answer is by MECC · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Do Big Screens Make Employees More Productive?"

    yes.

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    1. Re:Answer is by Aladrin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It isn't really so concrete, though, is it? I'm perfectly happy with my 19". Would a 30" really help? Maybe... If I had a 30", would a 50"? What about a 100"?

      Maybe 30" isn't the magic number, either. Maybe 30" is really TOO big and would cut my productivity because I have to constantly move my whole head to view the screen, instead of just my eyes.

      I have a 37" LCD HDTV as a monitor at home. (Mainly for games.) I find I have to sit all the way across the room (Like 8' away) in order to properly view the screen. I'd get the same benefit from a ~ 22" screen that is much closer, and there wouldn't be all that wasted room space.

      At work, I'm not even sure a 30" screen would fit on my desk... I seriously doubt it would make me more productive.

      Also, it's worth noting that the upgrade from 15" to 19" didn't do much for my productivity at work.

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    2. Re:Answer is by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Two 19" monitors will give you the same flexibility, at a much lower cost point - AND you can angle each viewing area separately. You can't do that with a single screen.

      BTW, twin 19" screens are my setup at both home and the office (the home box is set with xinerama off, the work box with it on).

    3. Re:Answer is by dp_wiz · · Score: 2, Funny

      Please write text with a larger font. It is very difficult to locate it on this 45" panel...

    4. Re:Answer is by orangeyoda · · Score: 5, Funny

      Two moniters is much better than a bigger screen, I currently have four on my work machine, and two at home. My friend projects his home machine through a homecimema setup onto his livingroom wall, it's about 6ft x 4ft , any performance gain is lost on neck pain after trying to find My Computer somewhere near the air vent .

    5. Re:Answer is by hcdejong · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Two 19" monitors will give you the same flexibility

      Close, but not entirely. I've worked with multimonitor setups daily for several years now, I currently use a 21" plus a 14", and have come across several situations where one big monitor is better than two small ones.
      - writing documents. With a 21", I can view two entire pages (A4 in my case) side-by-side. On a 19" that's possible in principle, but the zoom factor's not comfortable for long periods. 21" is the minimum size for this to work. The palettes get parked on the 14".
      - many applications consist of one honkin' big window, instead of several medium-size ones. Outlook comes to mind. Watching a movie is better on a 30" than on two 19".

    6. Re:Answer is by larytet · · Score: 2, Interesting

      twin here two - 19" and 20". much better than a single screen of any size, because all the reasons you mentioned + two persons can view the same screen + two laptops can be hooked up etc. Laptops naturally come with own screen, so sometimes i work with 4 screens on the same desk. Very convenient if you work a lot with e-mail, IMs, try to debug Java code in Eclipse and read all that RSS feeds simultaneously

    7. Re:Answer is by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It only helps to have 2 monitors rather than 1 large monitor because the window managers handle 2 monitors much better than 1 large monitor. The maximize feature becomes useless if you're using a 30 inch monitor. Maybe we need new window managers to take advantage of the larger screens. I think the fact that they used Macintosh machines definitely changes the results, because the maximize button doesn't really maximize. WHich makes a lot of sense if you have a 23 inch apple cinema display, but doesn't make much sense if you use a 17 4:3 resolution monitor.

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    8. Re:Answer is by mwvdlee · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think it all depends on what you do with it.

      When doing graphics, you'd probably work better on the largest single monitor you can find.

      When programming, two monitors will probably be quite convenient.

      Playing a movie on two separate screens wouldn't even compare to a single big screen.

      A game will just look enlarged on a larger display, whereas you'd probably get a wider view, and thus more information, on two separate monitors.

      And, according to Apple's research, a big screen is pretty good for basic OS/offics tasks.

      I'm sure there's more examples that go either way.

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    9. Re:Answer is by hcob$ · · Score: 4, Funny
      Maybe 30" is really TOO big
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    10. Re:Answer is by Nik13 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, I did look at replacing my dual 21" setup for a Dell 30" UltraSharp widescreen LCD (2560x1600). Nice big screen with high resolution and all. Even the price was not too bad as they had it on sale (like 600$ off).

      But then I realized I also needed one of the very few DVI dual-link video cards which weren't very cheap back then (over 200$ for the cheapest)

      But this thing can't really be shared on a KVM switch easily (find a KVM with dual DVI ports, and preferably with spdif while you're at it - good luck!) Try sharing that between 4 PCs, even if you have the right video cards in each PC. Even such a KVM existed, 4 new special video cards + special KVM would likely cost more than the 30" display!

      Needless to say I'm still using my pair of 21's.

      Likely, Apple's display would be just as much of a PITA.

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    11. Re:Answer is by twistedsymphony · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I think it really depends on the task you doing. For instance:

      Dual Monitors:
      • Programing/Coding
      • some forms of 2D Graphics
      • Stock trading
      • database development/management
      • some forms of word processing
      • General Multi Tasking
      Basically any scenario where you're doing a lot of side by side comparisons, moving data from one place to another or Channing something on one end and watching the results somewhere else. Multi monitors helps keep you from constantly switching between things.

      One Large Monitor
      • 3D Graphics
      • Gaming
      • Media (movies/slide shows etc.)
      • Some forms of word processing
      • some forms of 2D Graphics
      • CAD solidmodeling/drawing
      Basically any scenario where you need to do a lot of comparisons of the same object on both a large scale and a small scale, or just getting a large view of something that fills your vision. Any scenario where you're constantly zooming in and zooming out will benefit from a single large monitor by allowing you to leave it mostly zoomed in and using your eyes to move around or change focus to the whole picture instead of your mouse. Games and media benefit from this due to giving you a good immersive feel by filling your vision.

      There are other scenarios, and hybrid scenarios: like the gamer who keeps an IM client and stock ticker open or the person who likes to play a movie in the background while they do other work. But the type of display that works "best" changes depending on what you're using it for. Perhaps the best universal scenario would be a 30" main display with a 19" secondary.

      I would definitely agree that there's a point of being too big, but I don't think you could associate an actual size with it. 30" might be too big if you're only sitting 20" from it Similarly I've got a projector in my basement that's got a 114" image but I can comfortably use that from my couch 180" away. So size is relative to how far away you're set from the screen.
    12. Re:Answer is by mrchaotica · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Is it the bigger monitor or the higher screen resolution that makes a person more productive?

      Answer: both. Higher resolution doesn't help if the screen size stays the same, because it just makes the DPI go up and you have to scale everything to make it readable. Although a 15" 300 DPI display would be nice and sharp and unaliased, I don't think it would make me any more productive than a 15" 100 DPI one because I wouldn't actually be able to display more useful information.

      A 300 DPI 30" screen would be ideal, of course -- higher pixel density never hurts!

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    13. Re:Answer is by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 4, Informative

      I just wanted to chime in because I think you've got two of them reversed. Where I work, the 3D guys have two monitors and the 2D guys have 30" single monitors. The reason for this is that a 3D app requires having several other apps open. For example, I typically have Photoshop open on one monitor while I have Maya open in the other. I need to be able to get back and forth between them without a lot of minimizing/maximizing. The 2D guys have 30" monitors (Apple, btw.) that run at a very high resolution so they can see all of the pixels they possibly can while they're painting. (It's not uncommon for their paintings to be several thousand pixels wide.) In their case, they rarely have to have more than one app open. I'm more productive with the two smaller monitors and the other department's more productive with the ginormous screen.

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    14. Re:Answer is by Sax+Maniac · · Score: 5, Funny

      It depends what you are doing. I |###|do a lot of music editing, and
      going to a 24" Dell has been a go|###|dsend. Maximizing a score means
      I can see more staves/measures at|###| once, and spend less time scrolling.
      If had 2 19" monitors, there woul|###|d be an unpleasant bar right down
      the middle of my score, and invar|###|iably that would bisect a measure
      which makes things a lot harder t|###|o read.

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    15. Re:Answer is by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      My laptop has a 15" screen, and at work I plug it into a 23" display. Here, I've had the opportunity to work with a machine that has dual 30" displays. I am a lot more productive on the 23" screen; more so than I was when I used to run two 19" monitors at home.

      Using one large monitor is a lot better than using two smaller ones. You have a lot more flexibility than with two; you can split it into two uneven parts, or three different sections more easily. I often have code I'm writing, documentation I'm writing, and documentation I'm reading open, for example. Two things really help:

      1. Exposé. Switching windows quickly without it is a pain. It isn't needed as much on larger screens though.
      2. The zoom button working correctly on OS X. I don't ever want a window to take up the entire screen. If I did, I wouldn't bother with a multitasking GUI. I want it to grow to the optimal size to contain the contents.
      I am a bit surprised that this comes from Apple, because one area where OS X scales badly in terms of screen size is the menu bar. OPENSTEP managed much better here by having the right mouse button pop up the application menu under the mouse wherever you were, making invoking the menu an O(1) operation (rather than O(n) in terms of screen height on OS X).
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    16. Re:Answer is by joss · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I used to use 2 monitors all the time, I greatly preferred it to
      a single large montior for exactly that reason.. also I often
      need to use a virtual desktop to configure a server or the like
      where anything other than maximised is a massive pain to work with.
      However, I've recently switched to a triple monitor setup, and its
      far superior to dual monitor. There is a large psychological benefit
      to having a single central screen for whatever it is you are meant
      to be concentrating on and then having documentation/emails/IM/remote desktops
      or low priority tasks switched to the sides.

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    17. Re:Answer is by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think this is going to change dramatically in the coming future. First off, all internal applications (Like unwrapping) in a 3d app can be put into an internal "Sub monitor" so those aren't a problem. With Z-Brush and Modo offering such high quality 3d paint tools I think we're going to see painting on the mesh far more common, resulting in more single monitor applications. The current situation of multiple applications being required is slowly disintegrating.

      One thing I can never understand is when people ridicule the idea of a larger monitor (I'm not suggesting parent was, just a standard reaction). I always get incredulous stares even with my 23" and exclamations at its size but I always respond: How productive at work would you be with a TV tray table for a desk? Some how people have been convinced that 17" of work space is all you need! Our "work space" is minuscule even with a 23" screen. I would say 23" is a minimum not a maximum.

      Unrelated. This is far less of a problem with windows which only requires one click to switch between applications. The one feature where I feel that Mac OSX seriously lags behind windows is the ease of switching back and forth between two applications. Perhaps apple's survey highlights just how inefficient OSX is for a multi window user. And since this is 90% of what my OS does (the other 9% opening applications in the first place) I think they should focus more on their interface than the trying to solve it with a larger screen.

      As a user of a large screen I do think Microsoft and Apple need to add a new feature to OSX and Windows. The half Maximize. There should be two extra buttons on the opposite top side: [Maximize Right][Maximize Left]. The two buttons would quickly resize the window to take up half the screen.

  2. Suprisingly enough... by Digitus1337 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    30" screens will also make Apple a lot more money. Funny how that works out.

    1. Re:Suprisingly enough... by lixee · · Score: 5, Funny

      In other news, a study sponsored by Phillip-Morris says smoking makes you look cooler, thus attracting the opposite sex.

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  3. why not dual or triple displays? by Kartoffel · · Score: 4, Informative

    I certainly feel more productive on dual screens vs. a single display.

    LCDs are also more productive than CRTs, because they free up more desk space for heaping junk, err... I meant, organizing my work.

    1. Re:why not dual or triple displays? by Dare+nMc · · Score: 3, Informative

      > I'm even considering getting a 3rd screen,


      I have dual screens, and synergy mouse/keyboard sharing that makes my laptop behave like the 3rd screen, highly recomended, even gives that extra processing power of a second computer. Also add a tray to stand the laptop up.

  4. What about Higher Resolution? by pshumate · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It seems to me the problem could be just as well solved with a higher resolution on the current monitor. I don't really trust the research, since Apple, you know, makes behemoths of display technology.

  5. Moving files? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 5, Funny

    The time I need to type mv file /some/new/destination/ may depend on the size of the keyboard, but surely not on the size of the screen.

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    1. Re:Moving files? by JonathanR · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, but if you can touch type, you can move your files and read s;asjdpt at tje sa,e to,e...

  6. I don't really care... by Ibanez · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...what you all think regarding whether it's truly a jump in productivity or not.

    *copies link, sends to boss.*

  7. Idiotic example by Vengeance · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sure, I'll agree that big screens can make one more productive. In fact I'd rather have two big monitors than one attached to my machine. More real estate is a good thing.

    But the given example, of dragging and dropping files, has got to be the stupidest thing I've read today, and I'm already at work.

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    1. Re:Idiotic example by DigitalRaptor · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No one should spend the money on a big monitor (or better yet in my opinion, multiple monitors) JUST for dragging and dropping files.

      But there are multiple studies from independent groups saying you will get ~30% productivity gains by using multiple monitors.

      In my experience, as a programmer and web designer, anyone doing this full time is nothing short of retarded if they don't use multiple monitors.

      I hate taking my laptop somewhere else and working with just one, and can't wait to hook back up and work with two. I wish I were still on a desktop so I could work with three.

      If you work on computers full time and only have one monitor for financial reasons, you're stepping over dollars to get to dimes. Period.

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  8. Refer to Amdahl's Law by DrDitto · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Apple should refer to Amdahl's Law to see that a 50% speedup of something that only accounts for 1% of your overall time really ain't that big of a deal!

    1. Re:Refer to Amdahl's Law by The-Bus · · Score: 4, Funny

      50% and 1%? So you're saying there's a 51% speedup! Excellent! I'll forward your request right down to purchasing and you'll have two monitors on your desk on Monday. I hope to see 102% improvement!

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  9. Depending on what you're doing, yes... by evilduckie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One of my clients, involved in cartography (making maps), showed me his brand new 30" screen and said he had upgraded from 20" because on one single project, he was losing about 25% of his time scrolling around. So I'd have to say it not only made him more productive, but it also eventually paid for itself.

    1. Re:Depending on what you're doing, yes... by clickclickdrone · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >cartography (making maps),
      Please say that didn't really need explaining.

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    2. Re:Depending on what you're doing, yes... by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 2, Funny

      I thought it was a fancy way of saying he makes carts...

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    3. Re:Depending on what you're doing, yes... by 0110011001110101 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I thought he took pictures of cars... *damn*, right when my dream job was at my fingertips.. stupid maps!

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    4. Re:Depending on what you're doing, yes... by clickclickdrone · · Score: 2, Funny

      You should worry, I thought race relations meant you worked for Formula 1, hanging out with the blonde chicks, top drivers, parking the F1 cars after the race, that sort of thing.

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    5. Re:Depending on what you're doing, yes... by evilduckie · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm a cartographer myself too and somebody did once tell me she thought I took photos of cars for a living... Doesn't sound like a bad job though, maybe I did make the wrong choice... ;)

    6. Re:Depending on what you're doing, yes... by LoudMusic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      One of my clients, involved in cartography (making maps), showed me his brand new 30" screen and said he had upgraded from 20" because on one single project, he was losing about 25% of his time scrolling around. So I'd have to say it not only made him more productive, but it also eventually paid for itself.

      BINGO!

      I'm a sys admin for an ad agency. My 15(+/-) artists beg for dual displays or bigger monitors just about every month for this very reason. "If I had a bigger monitor I could get more work done." I have to aggree - I use three 19" CRTs at home at 4800 x 1200 resolution and it's AMAZING how much I can get done on my personal projects by being able to see everything at once (not to mention large display centerfold pr0n!).

      The problem is usually cost. Does two 24" display make them twice as productive as one 24" display? Likely not. That's $1000(USD) for the display, and you may also need an additional video card to drive it. Also, I've found that more displays drastically reduce the performance of the computer. So where the user may be more effecient with more screen space, the computer is not. Unless you upgrade it too - more added costs.

      At work right now I have a dual 3.2Ghz Xeon with 2GB of memory and a 24" display. I'm seriously considering buying two more cards to drive two more 24" displays that are not currently deployed. Maybe I'll let you guys know how it goes (:

      By the way, we upgraded our artists from 21" CRTs at 1600 x 1200 to 24" LCDs at 1920 x 1200. They're noticably happier, though I don't know that they're any more productive.

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    7. Re:Depending on what you're doing, yes... by zippthorne · · Score: 2, Informative

      It doesn't need to make them twice as productive. It only needs to make them $1000 more productive. So if it's a sweatshop and you pay them less than minimum wage, say.. $10k they only need to improve 10% to make up the cost of the monitor. If you're paying them decent wages already, the breakeven improvement is even lower.

      A computer, even a yearly computer, is really a very small fraction of a typical professional salary.

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  10. Re:Wanna make employees more productive? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 2, Funny

    This way productivity will go down, because it adds the time needed to circumvent the ban to the time used to browse Slashdot!

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  11. Monitor Size by tds67 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I spit on this male-sponsored study. Size doesn't matter...it's what you do with it that counts.

  12. Quite a bit more... by RabidMonkey · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I ran one monitor at work for a long time (17" - the head IT guy keeps rejecting my request for a 19"). They won't let me put a second video card in my computer, so I threw up a linux box and use X2VNC between them and now I have twice the usable space and I am much more productive, especially when coding or doing trouble tickets. I spend way less time alt-tabbing around looking for my terminal sessions - they're all on one monitor, as well as my browser, etc, leaving my 'work' tools on the other so I can move between easily.

    The downsides I see are a) cost and b) people getting a 30" monitor, complaining they can't see anything, and running 800x600. I think that would break my heart and mind a little, but it wouldn't suprise me. People around here still run 800x600 on their 17" monitors, and complain that 1280x1024 is too small.

    But, now that I think about it, having a 30" monitor wouldn't necessarily help - when you maximize a window, it fills the whole screen, which still puts you back to alt-tabbing. Maybe a better window manager/gui that you could break the screen in to regions, so that when you maximize a window, it would only fill the top 40% or something. Or the ability to pin windows to a location, os you don't have to maximize them.

    I think my point is that more screen real-estate, be it one huge monitor, or 2 (or 3 as I sometimes setup) is very much more useful.

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    1. Re:Quite a bit more... by Mr.+McD · · Score: 2, Insightful

      when you maximize a window, it fills the whole screen, which still puts you back to alt-tabbing

      You can correct this problem if you're running Mac OS X ;)

    2. Re:Quite a bit more... by JesterXXV · · Score: 4, Funny
      so I threw up a linux box

      You had to swallow it to smuggle it in, didn't you?

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  13. A 30'' monitor at work by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 4, Funny

    would make sneakily watching porn a lot more worthwhile.

  14. Re:Nope. by xtracto · · Score: 2, Informative

    Double the size makes quadruple the cost when it comes to LCD's.

    Indeed, that is why I preffered to get 2 17in LCDs instead of one 23. From my perspective I got more "desktop" state for less cash. And also, I can use one screen to show the Running program while the other is holing the IDE or run one program completely maximized and while the other screen has the small apps (winamp, browser, etc etc).

    One question I have always asked myself is how does the multiple screen setup works on the multi-desktop environments like X-window? does each virutal desktop expands to the second screen? I have not been able to use multiple monitors setup on my Linux distro so thats why I have not tested it.

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  15. Here's a wildcard of an idea by dbIII · · Score: 2, Insightful
    moving files between folders ... 15.7 seconds compared to 29.3 seconds on the 17-in. monitor

    A GUI is not a suitable environment for everything guys - I've seen so many people stuff about clicking everywhere and sorting by extension when they could just use a very simple command to move things in up to one tenth of the time. Computers are there to do the heavy lifting for us if we just tell them the rules. There are a lot of good uses for big screens and multiple screens - but a glass typewriter version of a filing cabinet is given as the example?

  16. 29.3 Seconds? by shoolz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anybody that takes 29.3 to do a file-copy operation needs treatment for their Parkinson's disease, NOT a bigger monitor.

  17. Higher DPI != more work area by tepples · · Score: 2, Informative
    It seems to me the problem could be just as well solved with a higher resolution on the current monitor.

    Higher DPI on a given size monitor just makes the pixels smaller, meaning that each character's glyph contains more pixels. This makes the text sharper, but it doesn't increase the amount of useful work area unless the user has visual acuity significantly above the median.

    1. Re:Higher DPI != more work area by ben+there... · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He said "higher resolution". So characters would be smaller. Work area would be larger.

      You said "higher DPI". So characters would be larger. Work area would be mostly the same, just with big characters that take up some extra space.

      Higher resolution != higher DPI. ;-)

  18. Not just productivity savings... by s31523 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    First, I find 2 or even 3 17-19 inch screens are better than one big one.

    In terms of productivity there is a noticeable difference when I work in our lab with one monitor versus at my desk with 2. Especially when debugging code.

    For me, however, the savings is more in paper than anything. I used to print requirements, interface documents, reference material, etc. Now with 2 monitors I can maximize the document I need on 1 screen then do the design/code stuff on the other. I have substantially reduced my paper consumption as well as other office supplies like highliters, pens, etc.

  19. That depends... by Overzeetop · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...on the work your doing, and if it can be partitioned into multiple spaces efficiently. CAD work, it turned out for me, wasn't any more efficient on two screens, but was more efficient on a large widescreen. Since the tools take up a small portion of the screen, a second monitor was mostly unused (unless you count a calendar and email program constantly viewable as useful). A single, large monitor means more drawing data available / more detail shown on the screen, and reduces zooming and panning for operations. If I could drive a 30" from my laptop, I might buy one. I use a 24" WS 'cause it matches my current laptop resolution (seamless transition from work to road use), and it wasn't insanely expensive (30"ers were over $2.5k when I got the 24).

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  20. I'd like to debunk this 2 screen thing now by baggins2001 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I have spent four-five hours trying to get 2 screens hooked up to my linux system. So far no luck. So I figure I'll spend at least 2 more hours.
    I have the 2 screens but so far I haven't been any more productive.
    The screen with "Check Signal Cable" bouncing around, isn't really doing me any good right now.

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  21. Yes, but so does training by Overzeetop · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How many times have you seen a computer user who is constantly picking and clicking with their mouse to do the simplest of tasks? I've seen veteran users select text from where the cursor is to the end of the line with the mouse, then click Edit then Cut, then click the point in the document where they want to paste the text, then click Edit then Paste. Shift-End, Ctrl-X, Click at insertion, Ctrl-V would have saved even the fastest mouse-jockey 15-20 seconds on a very common action. There are hundreds of shortcuts - just learning a dozen will save several minutes in a typical day.

    Different tasks require different screen real estate, and sometimes bigger is better. But for office app productivity, the low hanging fruit is training.

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  22. Zoom button in Mac OS by tepples · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Expanding on Mr. McD's comment:

    when you maximize a window, it fills the whole screen

    What you say is true in Microsoft Windows. But since Mac OS 6 or earlier, the zoom button on a Mac expands the window to the smaller of the size of the document and the size of the screen. If your document is 80en wide, as much source code is, the window won't get wider than 80en plus window decorations if your source code editor follows the applicable interface guidelines.

  23. The Deeper Issue by august+sun · · Score: 3, Funny
    Is anyone else appreciating the rich irony of forwarding a story to your boss about how to marginally improve worker productivity which we all read on /. during business hours*? Because I'm loving it and I'm sure my boss would get a kick out of it as well. Right before he added /. to the verbotten list.

    *at least here in the US

  24. re: flexibility of dual displays by King_TJ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm actually in a situation at home where I can compare both side-by-side. I have a PC with XP on it running two 20" wide-screen LCD panels, and across the room, I have a new Mac Pro with a Dell 24" LCD display. (Ok, granted, not quite a 30" like they use in this study ... but should be close enough for the purpose.)

    Despite having 40" of total space on one system, vs. only 24" on the other, I *still* prefer the single 24" display, all things considered.

    The fact that you can angle each viewing area separately is more of a nuisance than a benefit, IMHO. I'm always finding one of the displays gets bumped so it's not sitting right up against the other one, and the gap between screens is distracting. I also find that with dual displays, I tend to want to angle them just slightly inward so they have a slight "wrapping around my viewing area" effect, rather than looking straight on at both of them. But again, that always seems to get bumped out of place if someone wants to play with the controls on one of the panels or whatever.

    With dual displays, I'd also be happier if games would start making use of them. As it is, I don't think I've ever gotten a piece of software other than MS Flight Simulator to take advantage of dual monitors. (I recall seeing somebody's instructions for making Quake 3 use dual monitors for a wide-aspect game spanning both of them - but it required software rendering, which made it horribly slow.)

  25. Oblig Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead by BMonger · · Score: 3, Funny

    Rosencrantz: I don't believe in it anyway.
    Guildenstern: What?
    Rosencrantz: England.
    Guildenstern: Just a conspiracy of cartographers, then?

  26. Especially if you run Synergy by jerpyro · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have one monitor attached to my RHEL4 box, where I use KDevelop, etc for writing php code.

    The other monitor is attached to a low-powered windows box useful for thunderbird/firefox/internet explorer (have to check my webpages).

    One mouse and keyboard: http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/

    Sure, you can't drag windows from one platform to the other, but copy/paste works and you can share mouse/keyboard.

    That's the most productive I've ever been, two 19" crts at 1600x1200. Now I just have to wait for 19" LCDs to get that kind of dot pitch.

  27. SHUT UP! by wonkavader · · Score: 5, Funny

    SHUT UP! Everybody just SHUT UP! This is NOT the time to examine or question these results! This is the time to show your boss this scientific, scholarly article and get him to decide to give you a great honking big expensive Apple screen!

    Now Sshhh! Sshhh! Quiet.

    Print. Walk to office, walk through door, show boss article, exit through door, walk back to desk, sit down, go back to reading slashdot.

  28. More real estate is the key by hellfire · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The article has things oversimplified. It's not a larger monitor that makes you more productive. It's more real estate that makes you more productive. With that 30 inch monitor came a higher resolution. A 30 inch monitor at 800x600 is not much more productive than a 15 incher.

    A larger monitor is easier on the eyes, and if it's easier on the eyes, you can make the resolution higher, thus gaining more real estate and being able to put more windows on your screen.

    Dual monitors always increase real estate so it's easy to see how they increase productivity. Getting a larger monitor doesn't always increase productivity unless it includes an increase in resolution.

    Once again this proves that it's not the size that matters, it's how you use it.

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  29. Re: Multimonitor vs 1 big one.. by ghjm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Err ...

    So you're saying that in an IT department with 5 employees, if I fire one of them and give the remaining four dual monitors, we'll get the same amount of work done without any added overtime?

    -Graham

  30. Re:Even Faster... by profplump · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, and when you need to select 25 of 100 non-consecutive JPEG files from a folder to copy I'm sure you always use the command line instead of ctrl-click and drag.

  31. Triple-Monitor Heaven by E++99 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    All single-monitor setups are for dweebs! I have a single 19" panel at work, and three 20" (1600x1200) Panels at home (soon to be my place of work): "trio20x" I have 5.7 million pixels ever before me, and yes, the productivity boost is worth it. The only disappointment is that my fish screen saver will only work on one monitor at a time. :-(

    Other interesting monstrocities from the same company:
    "trio-ultraHD"
    "powerscape-ultraHD"
    "arena24s"

  32. Multiple monitors, oriented vertically by frenetic3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One piece I think people skip over is the benefit from rotating certain monitors to be oriented vertically. Most non-media-related computing tasks rely more on the y-axis (emails, code, web pages.); being able to see 100+ lines of code on the screen lets you have a lot more context.

    In addition, it helps to be able to maximize multiple windows rather than have one giant screen space and to have to manually resize (or use the clumsy tile windows capability.) If I had one 30" monitor it would drive me nuts; instead I have 3 20" Dell LCDs both at home and at work and it makes a huge difference to be able to maximize two windows on the left and center monitors and to leave the right monitor for email/IM/VMs. (I also usually have about 40-50 windows open at once, which some find strange -- a bunch of python shells, Komodo, Visual Studio, VMware, remote desktop, other text editors and tools, skype, AIM, winamp, photoshop, etc.)

    The actually productivity boost comes from not needing to alt-tab, and thus avoiding the concomitant mental context switches; it's great to be able to look at a google search or API reference on one window while actually writing code instead of flipping back and forth and back and forth.

    -fren

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    1. Re:Multiple monitors, oriented vertically by lotrtrotk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...But can you walk while you chew gum?
      Don't you think that closing a few of those windows might actually HELP productivity? Your brain can't possibly focus on that many things at once. Not to mention that your PC must be getting bogged down (even if it IS a powerhouse of a machine).

      If you can chat, listen to music, email, edit photos, do research, code in 3 different languages, and do any number of things on VM & Remote machines, AND post on slashdot, all at the same time...... then you must be cutting a lot of corners.

      Ps. Please don't take this as a troll. I don't mean this as an attack. Just an observation.

  33. Re:four words: by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Which is the standard answer, yet still utterly useless if the files in question have no particular common structure to their names. Under those circumstances, the GUI approach is vastly more powerful than the command line one.

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  34. Drag and what? by unix_core · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Of course it would make me more productive, the bigger the screen, the more terminals i can use at the same time! ;)

  35. Maximized windows is an anti-pattern by MCRocker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When I saw a user with all of their windows maximized, I used to think that they were probably a novice user (or perpetual novice). Most non-technical folks do it this way.

    Recently, I re-evaluated that opinion when I saw a developer using Eclipse maximized. His 17" monitor was clearly not usable with an application that had so many plugin panes simply because he didn't have room for anything else on his monitor if he wanted to size the window so that he could have all of the required views on the screen at the same time. I think that the maximized windows anti-pattern has more to do with the limitations of display size rather than because people are too stupid to do it the 'proper' way. In fact, I'd say, that the decision to maximize in a limited display is a sign that they're not so dumb after all.

    However, on a large monitor, it is my opinion that mazimizing windows is a true anti-pattern because the benefits of drag and drop and multiple application interactions go away when you can only see one at a time. Most of these developers don't even know that, frequently, the easiest way to change directory in a CLI is to type 'cd ' and then drag a directory from the file browser to the terminal window. There are lots of similar GUI patterns that make working on a computer much easier.

    Unfortunately, these things are often thought of as 'tricks' because the OS's have downplayed their use since users didn't seem to be using them. Most computer use is menu and wizard driven and there are very few applications that use a true OOUI.

    It's one of those bizarre situations where the design was ahead of it's time and the lack of use of the features fed back to the designers who dropped the advanced features just before the technology caught up to the point where these advanced features would have actually been useful. I guess it doesn't matter that much because most users have been so heavily trained to use copy-paste and other broken metaphors instead of drag-and-drop and gestures, so that even though it may now make sense to use drag-and-drop more, nobody will bother because they're used to the old way.

    It sort of reminds me of how an inferior technology like the old Palm torpedoed the prematurely advanced and poorly marketed Newton. Now we have to live with a bad paradigm.

    On the other hand, having a 23" HD format monitor now makes me question Fitt's Law, which breaks down when the menu is waaay over there.

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    1. Re:Maximized windows is an anti-pattern by Tim+Browse · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In fact, I'd say, that the decision to maximize in a limited display is a sign that they're not so dumb after all.

      Well that's nice. I'm sick of hearing about how maximised windows are stupid and useless, and how I just don't understand. People who still say that never seem to imagine this scenario: I'm about to do some programming for a few hours. I don't want to see anything else while I do that, so I'd rather I get to maximise, e.g. Visual Studio and block out everything else. But according to these people, I should not maximise my window, but leave other apps visible so I can drag and drop between them, or just not use the whole screen area because it in some way offends their sensibilities. (Newsflash to these geniuses: you can still drag and drop to other apps from a maximised app - try hovering over the Windows task bar while dragging sometime).

      But then, some people can't bear the fact that the way they work might not be the super optimal best way of working for everyone else, and so decide not to accept it. Personally, I use Windows on a two monitor system (which I find does help my productivity compared to a single monitor, thanks), maximise apps often, and use Alt-Tab to context switch, often so fast that people watching can't follow what I'm doing. Is the best way for my Dad to work? Probably not. Sure, I'll point out alternative working models to people, but that doesn't mean it's easiest for them. The Mac desktop model usually drives me mad, with hard drives/CDs hiding behind all the other windows, etc., but lots of Mac users love it. So what? People are different. Film at 11.

      On the other hand, having a 23" HD format monitor now makes me question Fitt's Law, which breaks down when the menu is waaay over there.

      Me no understand.

      Fitt's Law:

      The time to acquire a target is a function of the distance to and size of the target.

      Surely this explicitly takes into account the menu bar being waaay over there? Or have I misunderstood?

  36. dual monitors for years ... by Bassman59 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm an EE, and I've found that the more screen real-estate, the better. You can have a ModelSim wave display open enough to see the signals of interest, while still having its "project" window and a bunch of emacs windows open at the same time, and I don't need to alt-tab between them.

    It's also useful if you're doing PCB layout: you can have the schematic window and the layout window open and visible at the same time.

    Of course, the reason for using two monitors was that one large monitor to cover that real estate was usually a lot more money than two smaller monitors, although you needed a dual-head graphics card. Now, pretty much every graphics card supports two displays.

    I still think a pair of Apple 20" Cinema Displays makes more sense than a single 23" job; more pixels for the same cost.

    One thing I really don't like is the takeover of the 16x9 screen aspect ratio. It doesn't serve text-based design entry very well at all, although you can have several different editor windows open next to each other.

  37. Can't be too cheap about these things... by Delecron · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I spend about a hundred hours a month programming an access database for my company. It "HAS TO" have a slick looking front end, which will all know is super easy in Access... I got them to spring for a 20.1 in Monitor and it's great but now I'm beggin for a second so I can have the source code on one screen and the front end on the other. I guarenteed you will all the Alt+Tabbing I have to do, I'll save at least an hour a week. For the little these things cost in the long run, you would have to be pretty Draconian to actuall want to break it down into dollars and sense, it should just be common sense. Common sense also dictates Ronda from the office pool doesn need a 24 inch screen to view e-mail and print reports. A 23 inch will do just fine.....

  38. I personally have 2... by LongTimeReader · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have 2 monitors and I absolutly love it. Copy/Paste actions or file moving and especially for debugging. Just run the App on one and the code on the other. Effectively I have a 35" screen. Now if they were both flat panels I'd be even happier.

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