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Fox And Universal Say Goodbye To Halo Movie

Master_of_Tumbleweeds writes "20th Century and Universal Pictures, the two studios that agreed to co-finance the film adaptation of Microsoft's Halo video game, have abruptly pulled out of the project. This leaves executive producers Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh without financing or distribution. A ballooning budget (rumored to have been closing in on the $200 Mil mark) and apparent lack of confidence in rookie feature film director Neill Blomkamp are being named the major culprits for Fox and Universal's decision."

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  1. I'd call this a smart move. by manno · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At .2 billion, I can't blame them.

    1. Re:I'd call this a smart move. by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      To put this into perspective:

      - Batman Begins was estimated at $150,000,000
      - The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring was estimated at $93,000,000
      - The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers was estimated at $94,000,000
      - The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King was estimated at $94,000,000
      - King Kong was estimated at $207,000,000
      - Star Wars Episode III was estimated at $113,000,000
      - X-Men 3 was estimated at $210,000,000

      Long story short, Jackson would have to prove that a video game movie would appeal to a wide enough audience to justify comparing it to King Kong and X-Men 3. Considering that video game movies always do poorly, I can see why the studios don't believe him.

    2. Re:I'd call this a smart move. by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 4, Funny

      At .2 billion, I can't blame them.

      I can do better than that:

      At .0002 trillion, I can't blame them.

    3. Re:I'd call this a smart move. by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's a difference though. The geeks that grew up with many of the comics that have recently been turned into movies are in their 20s and 30s (or older) and are gainfully employed. Many (but not all) of the geeks who grew up with Halo are still in their teens.

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    4. Re:I'd call this a smart move. by Reverend528 · · Score: 4, Funny
      .2 billion

      Most of that budget was going towards film. After all, this was going to be the first movie shot entirely in slow motion.

    5. Re:I'd call this a smart move. by FofR · · Score: 5, Informative

      I should point out that the $200m mark is a rumor and Kamins, the representative for Peter Jackson and Fran stated: "The only budget the filmmakers ever spoke about was $145 million less the 12.5% rebate that you get from shooting in New Zealand, which would put it at about $128 million. That was the only number that was ever discussed."

      For more details I suggest heading to http://halomovie.trivialbeing.net/ where they have a video/news broadcast and some footage of Jackson's response.

      As an aside, they quote: "Microsoft is already in talks with other distribution partners and preparation for the movie will continue. Most of this development is at Peter Jackson's Weta effects studios in New Zealand, so delays should be small."

    6. Re:I'd call this a smart move. by PhilipMckrack · · Score: 5, Informative

      Because by the time they budgeted X-Men 3, it was pretty well established it would be a success. The budget for X-Men 1 was $75 million. They are comparing Halo to Doom and Mortal Kombat. Following are worldwide gross amounts for a sample of comic and video game movies. Video game movies can be made to be profitable, but $200 million for a budget is very risky.

      Spiderman gross: $821,706,375
      Spiderman 2 gross: $783,924,485
      X-Men gross: $295,999,717
      X-Men 2 gross: $406,400,513
      X-Men 3 gross: $455,360,014
      Hulk gross: $225,600,000
      Daredevil: $179,143,518

      Doom gross: $54,612,337
      Mortal Kombat: $122,133,227
      Tomb Raider: $274,644,183
      Tomb Raider 2: $156,453,758

    7. Re:I'd call this a smart move. by Drizzt+Do'Urden · · Score: 5, Funny

      What you can see here is that Big Boobs Works(TM)

    8. Re:I'd call this a smart move. by c6gunner · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, and it's not like Teens go to the movie theaters or anything. Or buy merchandise. In fact, that's why no company anywhere gears their advertising towards teens. It would make no sense, since they don't have any money!

    9. Re:I'd call this a smart move. by twistedsymphony · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I can understand why. and honestly I dont understand why directors and producers that propose a videogame movie are not beaten to death by the studios.... I dont care how good you are, Halo the movie??? I'd rather see Half Life the movie, and even then only if there is lots of crowbar action on headcrabs.
      While it's true that a lot of games just wouldn't make sense in the movie realm. The differences is in the script. In comic books characters are fleshed out, they have identities and personalities, and they have years of history with how the characters interact with each other. For a movie adaptation you can strip the story straight out of the pages, or if you write it fresh you have oodles and oodles of backstory and character traits that you can easily reference for inspiration. Not only does this keep the movie true to the comic's roots (which is important in any adaptation) but it also has the added benefit of keeping the fans happy in addition to giving the script a vast amount of depth and complexity with relatively little work on the writer's part (so long as he/she is familiar with the original work, or does their research).

      The problem is that NOT all video games have such a rich history. Games like Mario Bros and Doom in their infancy had a vague Shadow of a plot that was little more then a sorry excuse for why the pixels on the screen were dancing the way there were. Sure newer games have more of a script and are becoming more cinematic but even still the history isn't there, You might get 1 or 2 so-so game scripts to base your movie off of and that's if you're lucky. The rest of the movie's script and character design has to be invented by the writers, and to make it good enough to REALLY capture the feel of the game the writer has to do a whole lot more work to make it worth while for the audience.

      Halo is a little different though, not only doe it have 2 games with very SOLID scripts (and a 3rd with the script already written I'm sure) it also has a series of very well written novels as well as a comic book, all based in the same world. In addition it has a loyal fan base that keeps tabs on all the little nuances of the franchise, similar to what you find in other sci-fi fan bases the likes of Star Wars, Star Trek, or Battlestar Galactica.

      Halo has more then enough there to write a good movie script that will make a movie people want to watch. It's not the only game like this either, both Tomb Raider and Silent Hill have more backstory and well written game scripts then most games (though not nearly as good as what is available for Halo) and those were clearly far and wide better received films then other video game adaptations of games with little to no plot.
  2. What huh? by iolaus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did I read that right? Did the movie studios just make a good decision?

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    1. Re:What huh? by Amiga+Lover · · Score: 5, Funny

      > Did I read that right? Did the movie studios just make a good decision?

      They left out the most important bit of news - Fox and Universal have now gone to Uwe Boll to get the movie made.

  3. Odd by otacon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seems like an odd choice considering Peter Jackson's track record with making money (LoTR, King Kong) and the popularity of Halo.

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    1. Re:Odd by EvilMonkeySlayer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Wow, I like money...awesome, let me attach my name to this movie."

      Fixed that for you.

  4. $200 million?! by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 4, Funny

    That film's going to be the most bloated Microsoft product yet!

  5. Re:Glad by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't forget the lame videogame tie-in that would come out, too...

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  6. Good Move by vjmurphy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Spending 200 million on an untried director with a video-game property. Yep, I'd pull out quicker than you could say "Uwe Boll."

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    1. Re:Good Move by ToxikFetus · · Score: 4, Funny
      Yep, I'd pull out quicker than you could say "Uwe Boll."
      ooo-weee? oh-weee? you-vee? oh crap....
  7. It has to be said... by SethEaston · · Score: 5, Funny

    This movie was DOOMed from the begining!

  8. Who needs a big Halo movie? by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We've already got lots of little Halo movies which, I suspect, are far better than anything Hollywood could do with it.

  9. Why doesn't Microsoft Fund this? by 9mm+Censor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The budget is pretty much petty cash for MS. And entering the entertainment business means they can influence the business even more, towards MS online distribution (less iTunes, more M(S)P3s Online), and compete even more with Sony to push them out of the console market, to help the XBox360.

  10. Re:other factors by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I would imagine the whole "partnering" with Microsoft thing to be a factor, too.

    Why do you imagine that? Because Microsoft can't make, supply, or be shrewdly involved in entertainment-related material like Halo? Or because you don't like MS, and it feels good to say that? What's your actual thinking, and why is this +1 "informative" anyway?

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  11. Nonstarter by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 4, Funny

    Once they named Paris Hilton to play Cortana I knew the movie wouldn't make it.

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  12. i have to disagree with you somewhat. by adam · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Video game movies do not always do well.. but they don't, "always do poorly," as you've stated. Sure, Doom barely broke even after dvd/vhs rental (yet they're making a second [last I heard].. so that says something). But Tomb Raider grossed $131M in the US alone, with another $60M in rental market (plus foreign box office, merchandising, etc). With a production budget of $80M, that's a nifty return. I do agree with you though, the $141M budget that the article quotes is quite excessive for the genre. When examining whether it will be profitable you have to look at many things, and just being a video game movie isn't enough to doom you (no pun intended) to failure.

    If you look at the current trend, it seems that video game movies are getting pretty popular. Comic book movies have become insanely popular in the last 5-8 yrs and it seems to me virtually anything comic book related at all gets automatic greenlight nowadays (GHOST RIDER? I'd never even heard of this comic before I saw the trailer-- granted, i am not a comic fan, but certainly part of the draw of comic movies is a base association with a variety of users beyond just hardcore fans). Anyway, I digress, my point is simply, maybe executives are seeing some possibilities/trends in video game movies, --at least this is my conclusion based off the number that are slated for production currently..

    the list below was shamelessly poached from a wikipedia list i found, and then edited to remove probably 10-15 video games i don't recognize [see last paragraph for my reasoning behind this]

    * Castlevania (2007)
    * Doom 2 (TBA)
    * Driver (2006)
    * Duke Nukem: The Movie (TBA)
    * Far Cry (2008)
    * Halo (2008)
    * Max Payne (2007)
    * MechWarrior (TBA)
    * Metal Gear Solid (2008)
    * Metroid (2006)
    * Mortal Kombat: Devastation (2007)
    * Pac-Man (2007)
    * Perfect Dark (2008)
    * Quake (TBA)
    * Resident Evil: Extinction (2007)
    * Resident Evil 4 (2007)
    * Return to Castle Wolfenstein (TBA)
    * Splinter Cell (2006)
    * Tekken (2007)
    * Tomb Raider III (TBA)
    * Untitled WarCraft Project (2008)

    So, anyway, for the most part, I agree with you.. they have their work cut out for them, but I believe is the storyline does its own thing (And doesn't stick too much to the exact game), with Jackson behind it, it could do quite well.

    Also, as an aside, I have you "friended" on /., and do thoroughly enjoy reading most of your comments. This is the first time i've had the chance to reply to a "friend," since I mostly lurk (and generally only post in articles relating to digital cinema, or film stuff.. since that is what I do). Keep up the good comments ;)

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    1. Re:i have to disagree with you somewhat. by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Sure, Doom barely broke even after dvd/vhs rental (yet they're making a second [last I heard].. so that says something).

      FWIW, I actually thought Doom was the best video game movie ever made. I was especially impressed by the training they received to "look" like real soldiers. If it hadn't pumped up the expectations for extreme violence so much, it probably would have done even better.

      But Tomb Raider grossed $131M in the US alone, with another $60M in rental market (plus foreign box office, merchandising, etc). With a production budget of $80M, that's a nifty return.

      Let's be honest, though. Tomb Raider sold heavily on sex appeal rather than story line. The movie itself was less than spectacular.

      If we ignore that and take the profits at face value, then we're still nowhere near close enough to make a $200,000,000 movie. The total return on Tomb Raider was less than it would cost to finance a $200,000,000 movie, much less make a profit on it. :(

      I believe is the storyline does its own thing

      I agree completely. The story is key to making a good movie. Traditionally, Comic Book movies only did so-so themselves. That is, until some real talent started stepping up to the plate and adding incredible storytelling behind them. However, comic books have incredible amounts of storyline to pick and chose from. Video Games do not have that luxury, and may even be unsuitable for live-action. (Witness: Super Mario Bros.) In addition, many comic books are culturally iconic, allowing them to reach an audience far beyond the actual readership. This is something that video games rarely share.

      Also, as an aside, I have you "friended" on /., and do thoroughly enjoy reading most of your comments. This is the first time i've had the chance to reply to a "friend," since I mostly lurk (and generally only post in articles relating to digital cinema, or film stuff.. since that is what I do). Keep up the good comments ;)

      Actually, that double-green bubble means that I'm a friend of a friend. You never actually marked me as such. But thank you for your kind words. I'd try to keep my comment quality high. :)
    2. Re:i have to disagree with you somewhat. by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 4, Funny

      Video game movies are bad ideas. The game is made for interactive play with a story line usually tacked on out of obligation. I'm glad Fox wised up (now if they could just dump their news division). I suspect that some consultants are going to studio heads and pushing the "Look how video games have become a $x billion dollar industry. Look at the demographics! You'd be a fool not to make crappy movies based on them." I'm surprised they aren't soing "World of Warcraft" or "Grand Theft Auto".

      I'm still waiting for "Pac Man, The Movie" starring John Goodman as a man with an uncontrolable appetite who is literally haunted by ghosts from his past. Oh shit, I just spotted it on your list. Please god, send that asteroid now!

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    3. Re:i have to disagree with you somewhat. by c6gunner · · Score: 4, Informative

      FWIW, I actually thought Doom was the best video game movie ever made. I was especially impressed by the training they received to "look" like real soldiers.

      That's just really, REALLY sad. Take it from a real soldier: they "looked" like a bunch of second-rate actors trying way too hard, and failing miserably. The special effects were the only cool thing about the whole movie, and the "kill mode" part (or whatever you want to call it) killed even that. I'm a huge fan of Halo, but seeing the fiasco that Doom got turned into actually makes me wish that they'd scrap the Halo movie. After playing the game and reading the books, I REALLY don't need to be traumatized by seeing it raped on the big-screen.

    4. Re:i have to disagree with you somewhat. by omeomi · · Score: 5, Funny

      * Duke Nukem: The Movie (TBA)

      Ha! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

      Man, I'm gonna start announcing Duke Nukem products that I have no serious intent or means to bring to market. Duke Nukem airlines, anyone? How about Duke Nukem cola?

    5. Re:i have to disagree with you somewhat. by kbg · · Score: 4, Funny

      No this is the ultimate Pac Man Movie :)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWL6j0SvqV0

  13. He was only a producer in this one by hellfire · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Peter Jackson's track record as a director is firmly established. However, as the submission said, he's not the director here. Slide Peter into the director's chair, and yes the equation does change.

    You have to understand, Hollywood's track record with movies based on game adaptations is not good. So when you say "I'm going to make a movie based on a game" you are already starting in a hole. To dig out of the hole, you have to get a great script, a strong proven director, and reasonably good cast.

    Then real hard part begins. You have to make sure the movie itself provides enough material to entertain fans of the game, stick to the over all idea of the original story, and then include enough quality to stand on a movie on it's own to draw in nonfans to make money. This is the hard part because while games don't typically require the same capital investment as movies (big name stars, directors, creative crew require much larger sums of money than your top notch game programmers).

    I'm not saying Neil is bad, but he's not got Peter's reputation. Writing a script that can do all this is hard, and the IMDB link says they've changed scriptwriters at least once. They haven't dug out of the hole, and Fox looks like it's not going to take the risk.

    If Peter looked like he had the same level of involvment in this project like he did in LotR, then this would be a great movie. It doesn't look like he does, and well he can't be perfect in all of his releases :) If it did come out bad, I'd rather it be axed now then damage his reputation later.

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  14. Office on the Big Screen by the_last_tmnt · · Score: 4, Funny

    Meanwhile, talks with Miramax still continue on the upcoming Office 2003 movie adaptation.

  15. People Forget - Halo was inspired by a book by stevedcc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ok, so I know he isn't published in the USA, but Halo was at least partly inspired (http://marathon.bungie.org/Story/halo_culture.htm l) by an Iain M Banks book, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Consider-Phlebas-Iain-Bank s/dp/1857231384). I think this means that comparison's with films like DOOM is kind of unfair. Btw, Iain M Banks is one of the best sci fi authors alive. If you don't believe me, read it. An awesome book. Steve Crawford

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  16. "Broke Even", eh? by MrChom · · Score: 4, Informative

    King Kong did not "barely break even", it's the 36th highest grossing film of all time with nearly $400m of profit to its name. The only way it could have been classed as break even is if you looked at US gross only without DVD sales.

  17. I don't get it by tygerstripes · · Score: 4, Funny
    Why don't they trust Peter Jackson to make this work? I mean, LotR wasn't a great game, but what a movie he made out of it!

    I've heard talk of book-adaptations, but that's just par for the course.

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  18. 3 Bad Video Game Plots for $1 by patrixmyth · · Score: 5, Funny

    Space Invaders-
    Plot- Orderly flying aliens destroy New York City, floor by floor.
    Stars- Jackie Chan, Shaquille O'Neal and love interest Paris Hilton.
    Scene Take-
    Shaq: Jackie, [mumble] aliens [mumble] have to [mumble] Wall Street.
    (Jackie Chan begins climbing UN Building, swinging from flag to flag.)
    Paris: I think the aliens are hot.

    Breakout-
    Plot- After construction fraud results in shoddy construction at a maximum security prison, a pair of wrongly convicted prisoners plot their escape on the handball court.
    Stars- The Rock, Nicholas Cage, Dave Chapelle (who dies during the escape) and Bill Mahr as the bumbling warden.
    Scene Take-
    Chapelle: Are you two stupid? You don't think anyone's going to notice you knocking the damn back wall down? Forget this! I'm gonna go see if the warden needs any more weed.
    The Rock: I don't want to do this, but the Warden's left me no other choice.
    Nicholas Cage stares out window intently.
    (Meanwhile in the Warden's office)
    Mahr (on phone): New Rule! If the prisoners have multiple life terms, they must attend the buddhist prayer services, so they will come back here in their next life too!

    Asteroids-
    Plot: A giant asteroid is heading towards Earth and the only hope is a crack team of oil drillers.
    Stars: Bruce Willis, Ben Affleck and love interest Liv Tyler with Steve Buschemi as the lovable freak.
    Scene- Oh wait, never mind....

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  19. Re:other factors by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think you're the one dividing things. Parent was talking about the "GAMING DIVISION".

    Which is a red herring, which is why I called him on it. As has been talked to death, here, it's the hardware sales piece of that division that's always in the red. They do great on the titles. Hell, Flight Simulator alone is a cash cow.

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  20. Re:I don't agree!! by BewireNomali · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't remember an instance where a director without a widely released feature was giventhis amount of money to direct a film. It's a coup for him, but investors run from that.

    directors are to film what executives are to corporations. For the most part - they impart a vision, manage the process, and assemble an exemplary team for the various departments. having peter jackson behind him mitigates risk, and assures that the teams involved will be top notch. but if the director doesn't inspire confidence - then the trickle-down is obvious.

    i'm surprised they hung around this long. in my experience, private investors would not have risked 10 million on a first time feature director. i say this being an analyst who analyzes film properties for private investors.

    The flags:

    -known property (previously widely released IP - or one of several profitable genres: horror, black/urban, youth comedy; the foregoing are the most profitable genres of feature film).
    -attached talent (A-list, etc/respective to the genre).
    -director's track record (box office/public perception).
    -budget.

    It should be understood that the feature film industry is about making movies with other people's money. So whoever these studios are dealing with probably just weren't satisfied with the guy to dole out that kind of cash. I don't blame them.

    Sci-fi films mitigate risk by using the Japanese market as a buffer; american sci-fi films tend to do well there. in this instance though - because of the cultural backlash in Japan over the X-Box business itself - there is a risk of not being able to monetize this market and this is a huge risk of exposure, especially because data indicates a slight contraction of the US moviegoing audience.

    Overall, this would be a strong pass, especially considering the track record for game movies.

    I do however, think this film is going to do very well. I just couldn't advise anyone to get in at these prices.

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  21. Re:I don't agree!! by ngtvtw13ve · · Score: 4, Insightful

    IIRC Peter Jackson did nothing major or good for that matter before taking the reigns of a little movie trilogy called "Lord of the Rings".
    I would have hoped the studios would have more faith in Jackson being a producer than worrying about the fame of the director.