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What Not To Do With Your Data

Tiny Tim writes "Stupidity strikes! A data recovery company has revealed the dumbest data disasters it's confronted this year — including rotting bananas, smelly socks and a university professor's foolhardy application of WD-40."

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  1. nonsense! by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nonsense! I once turned a 5400RPM drive into a 7200RPM drive merely by giving it a good squirt of WD-40. I swear!

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    1. Re:nonsense! by zhouray · · Score: 5, Funny

      Damn! Now I think of Steve Ballmer every time I see the word "squirt". =(

    2. Re:nonsense! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Tranny Ballmer is not more attractive than regular Ballmer.

    3. Re:nonsense! by thepotoo · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Ladies and gentlemen, we present to you this season's lame Slashdot joke! (Don't worry if you find it funny. It'll lose its charm in about ten or twenty repetitions.)

      A guy with a sig like yours has no right to talk ;)

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  2. Privacy aspect by tomalpha · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What's interesting about this story is how easy it might be for *others* to recover your data after you think you've wiped it.

    1. Re:Privacy aspect by LordSnooty · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah - a chainsaw, a garbage compacter and a wood chipper. And a rocket to launch the fragments into space.

    2. Re:Privacy aspect by networkBoy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      When a drive is to be re-used within the company I work for we do a "secure erase" using a utility IT has blessed. If a drive is to leave the company it is wiped with the assistance of a 1/4" drill bit through the platters in at least three places.

      A hard drive is cheap. Company data (or potentially incriminating data for those of us at home) is not.
      -nB

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    3. Re:Privacy aspect by tdemark · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't think it's the company you have to worry about. It's the person they send your drive to after they refurbish it you should be concerned about.

    4. Re:Privacy aspect by antifoidulus · · Score: 3, Funny

      You put your hd in the toilet? Are you hoping to make next years list?

    5. Re:Privacy aspect by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Funny
      Anybody know of any usefull tools to completely wipe the contents of a drive?

      Yes. I call it "thermite".

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    6. Re:Privacy aspect by atta1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      No, it doesn't. All a full format does is relabel all the sectors and erase the FAT or MFT.

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    7. Re:Privacy aspect by Mawbid · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Heh, yeah. I remember when my company bought a hard drive (sold as new, not refurbished) with an ntfs partition on it and a whole lot of personal data. There were pictures of a father and his baby taking a bath. Awww, isn't that sweet?.

      I'm pretty sure the person who turned the disk in, if they thought about it at all, assumed that surely the shop would wipe the disk before reselling it. Well, clearly that's not something you can count on.

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    8. Re:Privacy aspect by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 4, Funny

      With very, very long drill bits.

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    9. Re:Privacy aspect by ultranova · · Score: 4, Funny

      How do they do the drilling on the drives of laptops that get stolen?

      They don't. Instead they just use Sony's batteries. Takes care of both data and thief in one blow.

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    10. Re:Privacy aspect by HomelessInLaJolla · · Score: 3, Interesting

      > As for how, the short version is that if you write a one and then a zero, you end up with .1; the old value leaks in a bit

      I've always wondered, if this were really true, why we don't see random errors cropping up constantly especially on heavily used portions of hard drives.

      > See, when you overwrite, the write head doesn't exactly line up with the old stuff--so you'll have little bits of the old data sticking out from above or below the track

      Is there a similiar random misalignment with the read head and, if so, why again do we not observe daily errors on heavily used portions of hard drives? If not then how does the read head compensate for the misalignment of the write head?

      The questions are simple but the premise is sound. While I agree, in theory, with the technical papers that contend that this sort of data recovery can be done I don't see how, in practice, it can work for data recovery but not be a problem in everyday use. The magnetic field on the drive is what it is--it has no way of knowing if it is being read for recovery purposes or for standard reading.

      Maybe there's a quantum mechanical "FBI/NSA/Investigator" bit which gets set at the beginning of the drive which instructs the rest of the magnetic fields to cooperate with investigative purposes in a recovery lab which is left unset inside of a standard computer. Personally I think that most of the technical papers discussing the theory behind such low level hard drive forensics rely on anecdotal empirical evidence from years past (mostly recovered from drives where people didn't bother to properly wipe the data at all--such as using quick formats) and add just enough extremely technical theory to make it sound plausible and keep the populance in starry-eyed awe (under the sway of FUD) of the near magical capabilities of the high priests in the Cathedral.

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  3. Unbelievable but True Tales of Data Disaster... by vivekg · · Score: 4, Informative

    Original ontrack article - Top 10 List of Data Loss Disasters of 2006

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  4. advert alert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    waste of time

  5. The real list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The article is a summary of an advert. The original can be found here: http://ontrack.co.uk/special/data-disasters-2006.a spx?hp=Top10_2006

  6. favorite data loss tale by krell · · Score: 4, Funny

    Someone I know had an important data disc that he used with no problems. Everything was going fine until he decided to get a little more educated about computer commands. He read a statement somewhere that said you need to "format discs before you use them." After reading this, he made sure to format the data disc before the next time he tried to access it.

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  7. The perfect secret weapon! by Bananatree3 · · Score: 4, Funny
    One customer left a banana on top of his hard drive, which then rotted and seeped through into the device. The circuits were ruined and the drive failed to work.

    AHhahahahahaha! the perfect corporate sabotage! Disguised as a janitor in a data center, place the banana inside one of the server cases over the holiday weekend, and voila! Muahahahahahahaha......

    1. Re:The perfect secret weapon! by GammaKitsune · · Score: 5, Funny

      Is that a banana in your server or are you just happy to see me?

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    2. Re:The perfect secret weapon! by pilgrim23 · · Score: 3, Funny

      It is known that any given drive will max out on data in time. It would be good to...pear it down...
      Thus the users could enjoy the fruits of their labor... I'll stop now...

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    3. Re:The perfect secret weapon! by LunaticTippy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh sure, like none of us has ever used a computer to heat up some lunch.

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  8. Ok... by aliendisaster · · Score: 3, Insightful
    according to a data recovery company that has released a list of the most remarkable cases of data loss witnessed this year.
    British comedian Dom Joly, presenter of Trigger Happy TV, thought the joke was on him when he dropped his laptop, damaging a hard drive containing 5,000 photos, 6,000 songs, a book he was writing and all of his newspaper columns.
    Is dropping a laptop really that remarkable? I think they are just trying to name drop on this part.
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  9. keyboard by joerdie · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is sort of OT but when i worked at radioshack, this guy was complaining about his keyboard on his laptop not working properly. After looking at the unit I realized that the customer had been hiding a thin layer of pot under the keys... I didn't "inform the authorities," but I did have a long conversation with the guy about where he should hide the pot.

    1. Re:keyboard by gt_mattex · · Score: 3, Funny

      I had something similar to this. I was doing computer repair some years ago when a customer walked in claiming his new scanner would not work. I looked it over and tested it. It seemed to work fine.

      I called the guy back over and asked him to replicate the error for me. He then proceeded to activate the scanner by placing his document up to the monitor and pressing the power button on the scanner.

      I laughed so hard I almost passed out.

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  10. slashvertisement? by minus_273 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This thing is full of really bad puns and reads like an ad for a certian data recovery company. how the hell did this get posted on the front page?

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  11. Just an advertisment by z_gringo · · Score: 4, Informative

    That "article" is nothing more than a commercial for using their data recovery service.

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  12. STOP POSTING ADS by rbanzai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "OnTrack claims it rescued the data in all cases. Jim Reinert, senior director of software and services for the company, said it pays to have your damaged hard drive or storage device evaluated because the chances of recovery are good."

    This "slashvertisement" crap has gone too far.

  13. Commonly by Himring · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The most common issue I've dealt with is jr techs deleting user profiles off xp boxes to "fix" something without first determining if there is any sensitive data in "my documents." Yes, generally -- although we tell users to put important stuff on network drives -- there are docs there that carry weight....

    I had a HD going bad once, with stuff on it I HAD to get off. I hooked it up and as it clicked and thumped and stopped spinning, I'd whack it with a flash light. This would make it spin and the copy would continue. After 30 minutes of beating it into submission, all data copied off successfully....

    I will tell this: one time we had a fire at a site. After all the damage cleaned up, machines replaced, etc., we were working with the maintenance guy who had been involved in the smoke cleanup, etc. The server was pretty messy. We were going to replace it, but he said, "no problem. Got it working." We asked what he did.

    He took the thing apart, apparently, and ran all pieces through the industrial dish washer -- all the but the harddrive. He let dry thoroughly, put all back together, and it worked. We were dumb-founded....

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    1. Re:Commonly by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I got a free laptop and a free $900.00 Universal MX-3000 remote that way. Both were damaged by smoke in a fire. they were being tossed at a clients home I snagged them and soaked both in distilled water for days, finally ended spraying down the boards, drying and then reassembling.

      Both work great, in fact the laptop has been running fine for 6 months now with my daughter using it. (It's a super slow Dell latitude C640 good for a kid only wanting to run simple games like UT2004 or DOOM3)

      Washing electronics is not surprising. everything you own has been washed once in it's life, typically during the assembly.. they wash off all the flux from the soldering process, typically with water if the place uses modern water soluble flux.

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  14. Advert for a company NOT to go to.. by mdobossy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I like my data to be private, and if I was ever in need of a data recovery company, I would expect them to be professional, and respect my privacy/data.

    Here you have a company airing their clients misfortunes all over the net.. and in one case even specifying the name of the individual. Doesn't exactly give me a warm and fuzzy feeling about how well they respect a client's privacy.

  15. N00bkes by SuperStretchy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thats why I use the Microwaved-Hard-Drive method. It works! Mostly because you can't find the HD amidst the smoldering ruins of the house.

  16. What is "False" about it? by krell · · Score: 3, Informative

    "Can we at least *try* to avoid posting false news items that are really nothing more than thinly-disguised press releases?"

    Can you please cite the false parts of this news item? If you can't, why call it false?

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  17. Freeze your bad hard drives by jgercken · · Score: 3, Informative

    I concur that this is a lousy promotional post. Therefore I'd like to make sure everyone knows the trick of putting failed/failing hard drives in the freezer for a few minutes. For reasons unknown to me, it normally gets them running long enough to pull the important data off them. If you're tempted to send a failed drive to a recovery company, try this first.

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  18. Photography losses by khendron · · Score: 4, Funny

    I used to work in a camera store. Although not directly related to losing computer data, the ways customers would destroy their cameras and their film were often quite amusing.

    One guy dropped his camera into a lake at the cottage. He had read somewhere that once a camera has been immersed it should not be removed from the water. So he brought us his camera in a bucket full of lake water. I think there was even sand.

    Another guy had his film (remember that stuff?) with vacation pictures break in the camera, so he couldn't rewind the roll. He did a very intelligent thing. He went into a pitch dark room, and by feel opened up the camera, took out the film and put it into a film container. Would have worked, except that didn't use one of those black Kodak film containers. Instead he used one of those clear film containers from Fuji. When he proudly brought his "saved" film in for processing, we regretfully had to inform him that despite his best efforts, the film was ruined.

    Then there was the lady who didn't understand why her night photos of Niagara Falls (taken with a Kodax Disc camera) didn't turn out, because she distinctly remembered that the flash went off. We had to explain to her that if her flash could illuminate all of the Falls from that distance, it would probably kill everybody within 10 feet of her.

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  19. Re:The freezer method? by binner1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have actually done this. My previous employer has some Building Automation software running on a machine that was not backed up what-so-ever. We were in the process of building a replacement box and getting it all setup, etc. Only days before being able to move the data across (the new system was being backed up), the drive crapped out. A morning in the freezer and we were able to get the data off.

    I wouldn't have thought to try this, but a few of the maintenance guys suggested it. I was both surprised and happy that morning!

    -Ben

  20. Fixing "Dead" HDs by G4from128k · · Score: 3, Informative

    A friend gave me an old iMac G4 because the HD (Quantum Fireball 13 GB) was fried. The HD's motor driver chip had a nice burn mark where the chip had spewed it's magic smoke. I yanked the circuit board of a similar HD (Quantum Fireball 10 GB) -- the circuit boards "look" identical -- and the Frankenstein HD worked. My friend got her data back and I got to keep the iMac.

    The point is that electronics problems with HDs (but not mechanical problems) can be fixed by swapping circuit boards.

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  21. DoD spec.? Seven times... stop repeating the myth! by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 3, Informative

    The NSA (and by extension the DoD) does not allow, under any circumstances, the use of wiping software to declassify hard disks. No matter how many passes. They might have at one point but nowadays there are no guarantees with the way storage technology changes so quickly so that they decided it would no longer be a good policy.

    Disks can be wiped using a single 0-pass to be re-used for a different project at the same or higher classification level (but different need-to-know).

    But disks can never go lower. Than can only be destroyed by melting or shredding. You remove the platters from the drive, send them to Ft. Meade, and they run it through the shedder, and send you a receipt of destruction.

    This also applies to flash media (compact flash, USB memory sticks). Same rules.

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  22. Write-only disk drive? by wsanders · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Easy DIY project - the write-only disk drive!

    Reminds me of the colleague who asked "What is the best program to convert files?"

    Answer: "Well, rm converts files into free disk space very efficiently!"

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  23. Re:No. DoD grade is not 7 overwrites. by LurkerXXX · · Score: 4, Informative

    DoD grade is complete destruction by an NSA-approved procedure. They remove and shred the platters.

    Please don't perpetuate that myth.


    Actually there are several different levels of DOD grade in handling of hard drives depending on the grade of the information on them (unclassified, secret, top secret, etc).

    I refer you to the Clearing and Sanitization Matrix.

    Approved ways to 'Sanatize' (as opposed to 'Clear') hard drives include:

    "d. Overwrite all addressable locations with a character, its complement, then a random character and verify. THIS METHOD IS NOT APPROVED FOR SANITIZING MEDIA THAT CONTAINS TOP SECRET INFORMATION."

    So overwriting is indeed DOD approved, just not for "top Secret" information.

    Top Secret data may be 'Sanatized' by:

    "a. Degauss with a Type I degausser"
    "b. Degauss with a Type II degausser."

    As well as

    "m. Destroy - Disintegrate, incinerate, pulverize, shred, or melt."

    -- which seems to be the only one you are familiar with.

    Please do your research before accusing someone of perpetuating myths.