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Steve Chen Making China's Supercomputer Grid

nanotrends writes "Steve Chen was the principal designer of the Cray X-MP supercomputer. He recently created multi-teraflop blade based supercomputers for a Chinese company. He is now creating a supercomputer grid across China and he is working on a bio-supercomputer extension to human brains called THIRD-BRAIN. The THIRD-BRAIN project has significant 3 year and 5 year targets."

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  1. grid of China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    >He is now creating a supercomputer grid across China

    Can you see it from space?

  2. I certainly hope this plan is actually reasonable. by neoshroom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It isn't. From the article, the guy right now has nothing and plans to implement what the entire AI field has been trying to do for years and years. He doesn't mention any new or innovative techinques he is applying to the problem -- only a boatload of unfounded confidence.

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  3. Re:The YouTube guy? by jcarkeys · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Different guys.

  4. frikken friends by imkow · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Put yourself together. Chinese people are not eating you, not without you cooked in our way.(see Chinese Food).

    Seriously a diesel submaine can do nothing to endanger a carrier fleet, if not making itself a firework. and remember, american's claws has alreay been on our door in Taiwan Strait, in East sea, in Japan, in South Korea and everywhere asian. Back few years ago, it's an american spy plane which literally hit down a Chinese fight jet just few koilmeters away from China's coast. it's you, americans always want to war with someone, not Chinese.

    Talking about human life, yes, human resource is inexpensive here in contrast to other part of the planet. it's just because of the number we got,it's not about the value we hold towards the human life. honestly if any possible, i hope we can move .5 billion of our folks to your neighborhood, to make the human resource, the human right, and the population, of both countries, even. this could be an idea to ease your nerve.

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    1. Re:frikken friends by Pengo · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Back few years ago, it's an american spy plane which literally hit down a Chinese fight jet just few koilmeters away from China's coast."

      You really believe that a prop-based spy plan intentionally HIT a fighter-jet out of the sky?? Give me a break. Your pilot got reckless in trying to coarse them away from your air-space. I'm not saying that spy plane should of been there to begin with, but I find it mildly amusing, and more than disturbing, that you buy into your ministry of informations claims that the evil Americans knocked their fighter jet out of the sky.

      Out of respect to the dead, I won't rant on how terrible of a pilot of the Chinese fighter pilot must of been if that truly was the case.

    2. Re:frikken friends by Fear+the+Clam · · Score: 2
      Talking about human life, yes, human resource is inexpensive here in contrast to other part of the planet. it's just because of the number we got,it's not about the value we hold towards the human life.


      If large numbers are such a problem maybe the Chinese government should just split the country into four. Perhaps then human life in each of those new nations would be considered as "valuable" as it is in the United States. Well, okay, that was a poor example. How about splitting China into 40 countries, each of which values its citizens as much as Canada does?
  5. One brain in your head, one in your pants by macadamia_harold · · Score: 2, Insightful

    and he is working on a bio-supercomputer extension to human brains called THIRD-BRAIN. The THIRD-BRAIN project has significant 3 year and 5 year targets.

    Why call it Third Brain? I'm not terribly familiar with Anatomy, but I thought humans only had one brain. (Well, unless you're a guy. Then you've got an extra one in your pants that does most of the thinking)

  6. Strange... by Shaltenn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Strange... Call me crazy, but this reeks of Cyber-brains from Ghost in the Shell. XP

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  7. Test run takes 7.5 million years... by Woogiemonger · · Score: 2, Funny

    Result = 42

  8. Third Brain?!?! by itz2000 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "He is now creating a supercomputer grid across China and he is working on a bio-supercomputer extension to human brains called THIRD-BRAIN"

    Why did you jump from 1st brain to 3rd brain? WHERE IS THE 2nd BRAIN?

    someone stole the 2nd brain! call 9-1-1!

  9. He's building it by c0nst · · Score: 3, Funny

    .. so that he can run Vista

  10. Re:frikken traitors by Antiocheian · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How come that China is a threat to anyone in this planet?

    Have the nuked anyone?

    Have they attacked defenseless poor countries?

    Have they messed up other countries causing civil wars?

  11. Re:ethics by ATMD · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dammit, as soon as I run out of mod points.

    MOD PARENT UP; INFORMATIVE/INTERESTING.

    I personally had no idea that a lot of the stuff mentioned there was still going on inside China. I mean, torture, concentration camps? WTF?

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  12. SECOND BRAIN by EraserMouseMan · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm surprised that nobody's asked about why there's no mention of a SECOND BRAIN? Has china already developed that one? Or are they just skipping a brain?

  13. Re:Difficult to take 3rd brain seriously by KillerCow · · Score: 2, Insightful
    He is now creating a supercomputer grid across China and he is working on a bio-supercomputer extension to human brains called THIRD-BRAIN.


    But when queried about the AI aspect, he says that they will just have to research it, even after the interviewer points out many other people have been working on this. I think he greatly underestimates the problem! Saying that all other AI researchers have not had an integral approach is a bit lacking as an answer to me.


    It's pure hubris. Even if he does make some AI breakthrough (unlikely), he may find that his shiny new grid is not suited to its implementation. It may not clique well. He has a system (a grid) and is trying to apply it to a known problem (AI). It's a lofty and noble goal, but it isn't the best way to solve a problem. Usually, it's a good idea to have your algorithms and systems though out (or at least an idea of what they are) before starting implementation.

    Fortunately for him though, he has a nice preexisting model that he can copy the structure of. Our brains are distributed, and are cliqued (from my understanding). So building a grid and trying to apply it to AI is not a terrible idea.

    At least the Chinese will have a nice super-grid to do weapons research on in the mean time.
  14. Re:I certainly hope this plan is actually reasonab by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ``only a boatload of unfounded confidence.''

    Well, isn't that what made America so great?

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  15. Re:A Great Leap Forward in computing? by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Might I add that this abdication has turned out to be wildly successful?
    Not universally. In health care, our mostly private system is the most expensive in the world, yet we have about the same life expectancy as Cuba (with a higher infant mortality rate). In agriculture, we overproduce and overconsume things that are frankly not good for us. Our food is overprocessed, our diets too high in lard and sugar, and we eat far more than is healthy (in no small part thanks to the unceasing, mind-warping advertisements plastered on every visible surface in our country).

    This is in no small part due to government agricultural subsidies, but the fact that these subsidies continue despite the fact that they actively undermine our health has to say something about the power our government grants business.

    Meanwhile, the wages of the poorest 40% of Americans have hardly budged since the 1970s, while the richest 1% of Americans now own about half the wealth in this country. Is that the sort of economy anyone would plan, or anyone would ask for? Besides the aforementioned 1%, I mean.

    In a way, we have the worst sort of mix of private and public: a government which allows business to write its rules. Capitalism is no more a panacea than communism. Global capitalism isn't all prosperity and health and flat-screen TVs; it also brings wage arbitrage, huge wealth inequalities, unsustainable overconsumption, sweatshop labor, and a host of other problems. In your rush to defend the good aspects of the free market, you shouldn't ignore its pitfalls and limitations.
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  16. Re:frikken traitors by Ardavan1367 · · Score: 2, Funny

    wtf? for the last time, America = Liberalism. drop your guns or die! why cant anyone understand that?! If all the armies in the world would accept this do you think there would be any more war? no because the age of cannibalism is OVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER

  17. Re:A Great Leap Forward in computing? by iminplaya · · Score: 2, Funny

    Intelligence, genius and foresight are not a boon to a person, but are a terrible curse.

    Consider yourself lucky to never have been afflicted with such a horrible condition :)

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