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Steve Chen Making China's Supercomputer Grid
nanotrends writes "Steve Chen was the principal designer of the Cray X-MP supercomputer. He recently created multi-teraflop blade based supercomputers for a Chinese company. He is now creating a supercomputer grid across China and he is working on a bio-supercomputer extension to
human brains called THIRD-BRAIN. The THIRD-BRAIN project has significant 3 year and 5 year targets."
What peculiar terminology. Well, I certainly hope this plan is actually reasonable, unlike the Chinese Communist five-year planning, which just got millions killed for nothing.
Is there a downloadable Vorbcast of this?
I wonder if anyone has tried adding a bunch of high performance GPU chips into the mix (e.g. NVidia or ATI's can run at close to 1 TFlop), or hook together a bunch of PS3 Cell chips? I realize these are more specialized, but they are SO fast that augmenting classic commodity chips with these specialized chips seems like it could greatly boost performance.
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The stupid government makes all this noise about islamics. Heck with that, they need to crack down on tech transfer to china, THEY are the big threat to everyone else on the planet this century. The US and western europe has made a BIG mistake transferring all this tech to china. They are very close now to not needing any more, all they will need is raw materials because their alternative and internal markets are big enough..then watch the dollar and euro BOTH collapse. They are already cooling it on rebuying more dollars, they have capped at one trillion in *cash* just in dollars they are sitting on. We just had last week a chinese sub surface five miles from a carrier, and it was undetected before it surfaced.
This is called a clue.
Anyway, this chen bozo, that is some creepy shit, and I think the last place we want human/machine hybrids is in mainland china, they have zero regards for human life, none. Or other animal life for that matter, they are culturally just a very cruel people (sorry, but it is true, I call it like I see it).
>He is now creating a supercomputer grid across China
Can you see it from space?
Brains. Right. Just what some bot-master will want to send his zombies after.
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I thought the Noosphere http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noosphere/ would awaken us all and speak in the English language. I'd better learn Chinese now :)
Why is nobody commenting about this THIRD BRAIN thing ? This is the first time I hear about it, and the first time I hear about a serious government funded initiative for a brain-machine interface...
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I guess he's found something to do with Google's money.
It isn't. From the article, the guy right now has nothing and plans to implement what the entire AI field has been trying to do for years and years. He doesn't mention any new or innovative techinques he is applying to the problem -- only a boatload of unfounded confidence.
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Steven Chen is a slimebag. First, he is working to help the Chinese government develop
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technology with skills he learned at Cray. This is a transfer of US technical skills to the Chinese militaty and mirrors Chinese industrial espionage. Chen is helping support a communist state that is killing people in Tibet and has the humanitarian aims of a dictator like Sadam Husein and supports torture. Steven Chen just took his skills to China to help the Chinese government which kills and interns millions in Stallinist style concentration camps and helped Pakistan and North Korea get an Atomic bomb. Those high tech computers he's building are being used to make better nuclear weapons. Steven Chen's ethics are on the level of a street urchin. Notice how the article mentions supercomputer applications except nuclear weapons which is one application that really uses supercomputers. Steven Chen was probably a Chinese plant though to take his knowledge back to China after he worked at Cray.
There is also evidence the Chinese reverse engineered a Cray. Chen is no different from Chinese technicians trying to steal chip designs and fly back to China after working at an American company and the blueprints.
China also supports widespread censorship of the internet and press. Freedom of speech does not exist in China. Steven Chen is promoting and supporting a China where freedom of speech
doesn't exist and an e-mail can get you 10 years. http://takeaction.amnestyusa.org/siteapps/advocac
China is also militaristic and destabilizes Asia with ambitions of power. China wants to takeover Taiwan either by military force or politically. Any attempts to declare Taiwan a separate and autonomous country are met by Chinese government attacks and threats of reprisal against the US no less. In fact Chinese influence reaches to even the hidden corridors of the White House. China wants to add Taiwan to it's territories militarily or by any other means.
Way to go Steve. Help out a corrupt Chinese government. Maybe the Dalai Lama can congratulate you.
At least Steven Chen could be working in the west and supporting economic and political reforms in China but he's doing the opposite. Steven Chen should be proud that he's helping support democracy in China by working in a corrupt and unreformed system where economic reforms do not encourage government reforms.
It seems as though the team is working primarily on the number crunching power at the moment - which is all good and well. But when queried about the AI aspect, he says that they will just have to research it, even after the interviewer points out many other people have been working on this. I think he greatly underestimates the problem! Saying that all other AI researchers have not had an integral approach is a bit lacking as an answer to me.
Put yourself together. Chinese people are not eating you, not without you cooked in our way.(see Chinese Food).
.5 billion of our folks to your neighborhood, to make the human resource, the human right, and the population, of both countries, even. this could be an idea to ease your nerve.
Seriously a diesel submaine can do nothing to endanger a carrier fleet, if not making itself a firework. and remember, american's claws has alreay been on our door in Taiwan Strait, in East sea, in Japan, in South Korea and everywhere asian. Back few years ago, it's an american spy plane which literally hit down a Chinese fight jet just few koilmeters away from China's coast. it's you, americans always want to war with someone, not Chinese.
Talking about human life, yes, human resource is inexpensive here in contrast to other part of the planet. it's just because of the number we got,it's not about the value we hold towards the human life. honestly if any possible, i hope we can move
China, in fact, is very fragile.
and he is working on a bio-supercomputer extension to human brains called THIRD-BRAIN. The THIRD-BRAIN project has significant 3 year and 5 year targets.
Why call it Third Brain? I'm not terribly familiar with Anatomy, but I thought humans only had one brain. (Well, unless you're a guy. Then you've got an extra one in your pants that does most of the thinking)
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You cannot even talk about their dumb leaders after electing Bush.
Maybe someone comes up with moral enough to make speeches. This is not America, though.
I'm confused. He says it might be able to scale to 100 Tflop/s then says they expect to scale to 250 Tflop/s by next year.
Strange... Call me crazy, but this reeks of Cyber-brains from Ghost in the Shell. XP
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"...he is working on a bio-supercomputer extension to human brains called THIRD-BRAIN."
Now I'm no mathematician, but aren't we missing one here? Where's the second brain?
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"He is now creating a supercomputer grid across China and he is working on a bio-supercomputer extension to human brains called THIRD-BRAIN"
Why did you jump from 1st brain to 3rd brain? WHERE IS THE 2nd BRAIN?
someone stole the 2nd brain! call 9-1-1!
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Keep thinking that every other country can do whatever they want because you think the US is evil, though. I'm sure someday you'll see how much of a complete tool you are. Too bad it will probably take a nuke and several tens of thousands of innocent lives first.
I've got the first shot of THIRDBRAIN http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ageofsteel.jpg
A supercomputer is not better, because it is distributed. In fact distributed computing power is useless except for some very specific problems. All this "gird" nonsense does not solve a real problem, but serves to keep initiatives alive that were dead a decade ago when they were started.
An this nonsense about extending the human brain? Have we not heard enough of this in the last 30 years or so? Having ''significant goals'' will not prevent this from being another case of lying to the public....
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
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China's leaders ahve even RECENTLY stated their eventual goal to "defeat America". How is criticizing China "Bushian". I don't give a fat fuck what sort of economic engine they are. There's money to be made so we support an outdated corrupt regime? Fuck the geek community. You are all bought and sold by the tech world. Scumbags.
Back in the day we called it "Y2K consulting", today it's "Supercomputer grid consulting". The main difference is this guy has friends in the business whose products he will be pushing for a nice kickback, in addition to his hourly fee.
Any twit can write "Qty: 1000" next to a system order when someone else is footing the bill.
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...and from the looks of it, it appears to make people go insane... http://www.threebrain.com/
Actually, diesel-electrics are said to be much quieter and harder to detect than nuclear submarines. I remember reading a few years ago that an Australian diesel-electric, in exercises, was took out the carrier in a carrier group.
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In a 2003 joint naval exercise, three Collins-class submarines reportedly "sank" two American Los Angeles class attack submarines and a US aircraft carrier, supporting the claims of defect resolution and combat effectiveness
Here's a description of the US/Australian exercise: http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/09/23/1064
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I'm surprised that nobody's asked about why there's no mention of a SECOND BRAIN? Has china already developed that one? Or are they just skipping a brain?
> "bio-supercomputer extension to human brains"
Um... I'm from dairy country, and have learned to identify bullshit quite accurately.
Especially when a cow-pie crawls up your leg and bites you on the ass.
Sir, I have been bitten.
It's nice to know Chen is selling out to our mortal enemy.
Just like Prescott Bush supporting the NATZIs during WW2.
That's it give the Chinese military all of our technology They own us anyway.
Now those are Real Americans.
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``only a boatload of unfounded confidence.''
Well, isn't that what made America so great?
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
Sounds great! Who's going to be the first sucker- er- I mean brave volunteer to beta test it?
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he designed the Cray XMP in US, now the one he worked on in China is a new design.
i think what you meant should be "his technology"...
They're going to call it HAL 9000, right?
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In Chinese, computer is translated as "electronic brain."
So this is the 3rd generation. Human, (super-)computer, super-computer grid?
If you need anyone to write "your google", you know where to find us. We'll be happy to assist a government with 500M people who's looking after their interests and don't sell info to the CIA.
They've threatened to nuke the US and other countries.
They stole the Trident missile and B2 tech to be sure that they can.
They've started civil wars in most of the countries surrounding them, and in Central and Latin America, as well as in the Sudan in Africa.
They have over 900 missiles aimed at the free Republic of China on the Island of Formosa, and regularly threaten to invade and enslave the tens of millions who live there.
They've murdered 50-100 million of their own population
They murdered at least 10,000 peacefully-protesting students at Tien an Men Square.
They brutally occupied many nations, including Tibet, East Turkmenistan, Inner Mongolia and Manchuria.
> WHERE IS THE 2nd BRAIN?
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In your gut.
The enteric nervous system is a bunch of neurons in the lining of your digestive system that are complex enough to be called a brain in their own right.
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The Chinese get their money to invest in this stuff because we keep purchasing cheap shit at Walmart. I'm not picking on Walmart per se it's just that we are addicted to buying cheaply made gizmatrons made in China a cut rate prices and we gota have them. We are boosting the Chi Coms by doing this and 1. I read the other day that some clown had sold the Chi Coms the plans to the steal bomber and now this, what a great deal, they got our telemetry and guidance systems thanks to Former Pres. Clinton and now the bomber shit and with this third brain crap the'll use it to bury us
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Wasn't the "Third Brain" a Macguffin in the Spykids franchise?