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Mini Introduces RFID-Activated Billboards

frinkster writes "MINI USA has placed interactive billboards in 4 US cities (Chicago, Miami, New York and San Francisco) and invited a few hundred MINI owners in those cities to join their targeted 'advertisement' pilot program. The owners sign up on MINI's website and receive an RFID keyfob in the mail. When that MINI owner drives by the billboard, a targeted message appears. Each owner tells MINI what to show when they drive by, such as 'Jim, you are one sexy beast.' If the pilot program is successful, MINI plans to put up more billboards in more cities and allow every owner to participate. MINI swears that no personal information in contained in the keyfobs and that all communication between the MINI and the owner is subject to their privacy policy and thus the program is completely safe. But how well will they keep their billboard logs away from the prying eyes of law enforcement or private detectives? And what are they doing to prevent 'hackers' from changing the personal messages to insults, such as 'Jim, nice to see you finally emerge from your mother's basement'?" MINI calls the interactive billboards "Motherboards."

138 comments

  1. Ya... by Swimport · · Score: 4, Funny

    This has good idea written all over it.

    1. Re:Ya... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I, for one, welcome our new RFID-reading Motherboards.

    2. Re:Ya... by CaptainDefragged · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, just what we need. Yet another distraction from the task of driving. I wonder how many people will be killed because they were too busy reading their personalised billboard. Motorists need less distractions not more.

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    3. Re:Ya... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who modded the parent as flamebait? Someone connected to this idiotic marketing plan? Someone who has a personal beef with the poster? Parent rates an Insightful for something that should be obvious to everyone.

  2. More like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Jim, I'm finally glad to see you emerge from your mother."

    1. Re:More like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you refering to his birth or something sick ?

  3. Fun! by ruiner13 · · Score: 4, Funny

    This could be fun to put out fake terror warnings on billboards to get people to drive faster :)

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    1. Re:Fun! by linefeed0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Fun? If you think jail is fun, and you would like to share this man's fate, I suggest you do so.

    2. Re:Fun! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WHY IS MINI SHOUTING? It was far more polite when it was British. Must be the German influence.

    3. Re:Fun! by ruiner13 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Gentleman, prepare this man for vaginal sand extraction. Seriously, does it itch?

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    4. Re:Fun! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That man should have use TOR.

    5. Re:Fun! by AugustZephyr · · Score: 1
      FTFA:
      The idea is simple, first give MINI USA some irreverent information about yourself (nothing too personal). Then MINI USA then sends out a special keyfob (4-6 weeks after sign-up) that identifies you to each of the Motorboards you pass. When the boards detect that you are about the drive by, they deliver a personal message based on the information you originally gave.
      You don't get to make the message. It is derived from the information you give MINI USA.
    6. Re:Fun! by k_187 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, they'd have too many people who thought it was funny to put "shit shit boobs" up there for them to give you free reign with the messages.

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    7. Re:Fun! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      But you have to admit, it would be for the first time that a billboard actually gets some attention.

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    8. Re:Fun! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol 4chan

      Also, lol FBI. They're just pissed off that other people have better ideas than they do. It's hard to defend against what you don't expect.

    9. Re:Fun! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you a bad enough dude to mess with football?

    10. Re:Fun! by noz · · Score: 1

      Do you put 'NSOH' in your singles ad?

    11. Re:Fun! by FLEB · · Score: 1

      Yes, my name is S.S. Boobs. My parents were hippies.

      (Really though, I get a fair amount of junk mail as "Destroyer of Worlds" and "Unparalleled God of Design" from some online stuff I signed up for years ago.)

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    12. Re:Fun! by k_187 · · Score: 1

      Oh yes, unfettered access to one of these on a billboard that I wouldn't have to go out of my way to drive pass would be a gold star for me buying a Mini

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    13. Re:Fun! by orangeyoda · · Score: 1

      Personal messages, " Bill I'm lying at home, covered in honey waiting for you to come lick me " while stuck in a traffic jam , with the wife as all the guys are cheering you on. Or even worse.. " Bill , Don't forget your Viagra prescription " and there's sure to be. My Deer, COMPLIMENT OF THE SEASON, This is Angela Savimbi writing to you once again, thank you for accepting $98,000,000 ....

  4. Jim? by Penguinshit · · Score: 0

    I actually know a MINI owner named Jim..

  5. Bigbrotherboards by CranberryKing · · Score: 4, Funny

    Great. How soon until it says "Jim! You are being detained."

    Believe it.

    1. Re:Bigbrotherboards by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Hi Akbar! It looks like you have traces of explosives on your car. Please pull over by the black helicoper up ahead."

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  6. insert bad joke here by BadERA · · Score: 3, Funny

    Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not an billboard trigger.

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    1. Re:insert bad joke here by BadERA · · Score: 1

      nor 'a' billboard trigger for that matter.

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  7. They'll see ya, alright! You'll be 200ft tall! by jonbritton · · Score: 1

    Each owner tells MINI what to show when they drive by, such as 'Jim, you are one sexy beast.' If the pilot program is successful, MINI plans to put up more billboards in more cities and allow every owner to participate.

    I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me.
    I think I'm getting The Fear.

  8. There's nothing like a Hummer by genessy · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Jim - You should have got a Hummer!"

    1. Re:There's nothing like a Hummer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Jim, congrats on the size of your genitalia"

  9. Minorityreport tags by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What trolls tagged this 'minorityreport'? I fail to see the relevance.

    1. Re:Minorityreport tags by Bassman59 · · Score: 4, Informative

      What trolls tagged this 'minorityreport'? I fail to see the relevance. In Philip K Dick's dystopian future, you'll be followed by annoying ads that target you specifically. The trigger for the ads in the future is that you'll have some kind of ID implant that gets read by the adbots. The MINI keyfobs are an external version of that ...
    2. Re:Minorityreport tags by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      The film Minority Report features personalised ads which include your name, suggesting products based on past purchases etc.

      This is similar, just lower tech.

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    3. Re:Minorityreport tags by Nurgled · · Score: 1

      It's been a while since I saw the Minority Report movie (and even longer since I read the short story, though I don't remember this coming up at all there; was it in a different story?) but weren't these ads doing iris recognition? I seem to remember that he'd just had his eyes replaced so he wouldn't be recognised by security, but all of the stores started barking ads at him with the name of the person whose eyes he now had, and made it harder for him to run through the mall and escape.

  10. What range? by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What range are they imagining for RFID? I have always heard that driving past a billboard (unless it was *really* close) wouldn't be close enough for the transmit distances of RFID.

    If RFID is readable at distances of 50-100 feet or so, that's opens a bunch of issues people have been saying can't happen.

    Anyone with any more detailed knowledge about RFID care to chime in on this?

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    1. Re:What range? by man_ls · · Score: 3, Informative

      Active (Powered) RFID and a good antenna will net ranges much greater than 100 ft. You never hear about the Active sort terribly often, but it's out there, and is appropriate in a situation like this.

    2. Re:What range? by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Putting the RFID reader in a mile marker nearer the road (or in the road itself) and then relaying the information to the billboard via another, longer-distance technology, gets around the billboard-range problem.

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    3. Re:What range? by TheCrackRat · · Score: 1

      It's possible they will have RFID readers near the ground that are linked to the actual billboard.

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    4. Re:What range? by BlahSnarto · · Score: 2, Informative

      I just googled RFID longrange and
      came up with a few interesting links

      http://www.ela.fr/

    5. Re:What range? by Mantooth · · Score: 0

      I saw one the other day... I was too busy getting annoyed at the never ending construction that I didn't pay too much attention to it until afterwards.

      I used to have a client that owned a Billboard company (until they sold it a few months ago for a gazillion dollars) and electronic billboards are definitely going to become more prevelant as well as more customizable, utilizing wi-fi, bluetooth, etc. In the next few years, I don't think range will be an issue.

    6. Re:What range? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Depends on the antenna used, mainly. RFID is usually discussed in terms of the sort of chips you'd conceal in products, embed in passports, or inject under people's skins. These platforms naturally impose limits on the antenna size, hence the reading range. For an overt device whose entire purpose is to carry an RFID device, the antenna can be larger. Also, though changing batteries or recharging your keyfob is inconvenient, you could make it an active device, allowing crazy ranges to work.

      But these solutions are changes to these particular RFID tags, not to the reader, so the things "people have been saying can't happen" are still the same, for the other devices they presumably have been discussing. Not that they're necessarily telling the truth; this just doesn't prove they're lying.

      BTW: on major highways, how would anyone know who the message was for? probably only the recipient, unless the message identifies them, as in "Jim, you are on beasty sex." So by carrying the fob, and letting someone else set the message, you have an interesting means of open, but non obvious, communication. (Clearly, messages must be worded carefully or encoded/encrypted/etc. to avoid letting things out)

    7. Re:What range? by SomeWhiteGuy · · Score: 1

      My guess is that the MINI itself has some kind of signal booster inside. I've seen some basic studies on it myself. I thought the range was quite limited and that was about 1-2 years ago. Might have changed significantly since. All of that depends on if they use active or passive tags. They have to use active to get any kind of range then a strong receiver. Someone correct me if I'm getting my facts wrong.

    8. Re:What range? by Radon360 · · Score: 1

      Without getting technical, if they can make RFID work with at-speed tollbooths, they can make it work with billboards.

      (damn you, Illinois Tri-state)

    9. Re:What range? by Ltar · · Score: 1

      Alternately, an RFID receiver for the board itself could be located on the side of the road, within range of passing RFID MINI's, and a few hundred yards in front of the actual sign.

    10. Re:What range? by toQDuj · · Score: 1

      Whilst driving past the billboard may not display the desired message...

      On the other hand, driving into the billboard will result in a particularly fancy "Please, Jim, Not again!"

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  11. No, they don't. by RobertB-DC · · Score: 4, Informative

    MINI calls the interactive billboards "Motherboards."

    Um, the FA actually says:

    Look MINI USA to roll-out the Motorboard program to a wider MINI-owning audience later in 2007.

    Looks like somebody does need to get out of his parents' basement...

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  12. Jim... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Owning a MINI does not make you gay Jim"

    1. Re:Jim... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Driving one, on the other hand...

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    2. Re:Jim... by mgscheue · · Score: 1

      Nope, it just means you have good taste in automobiles.

    3. Re:Jim... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HAHAHA look who's pissed that he owns a fag car. Don't bother protesting, it is what it is, and you're too stupid to realize it I guess.

      But the Mini is a car for chicks and gay dudes whther you like it (or admit it to your parents...) or not, so get over it.

      Damn that was awesome, I knew some dumbass would try to pretend the Mini wasn't a car for gays. That dumbass = YOU!

      Oh, and I'm gay, so I get to say "fag" with impunity. Get over that too mini owner!!!

  13. Minis are underpowered by smitty97 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Jim! You Could Have Had a V8!"

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    1. Re:Minis are underpowered by SenorCitizen · · Score: 1

      Could be, but they're also fast. Since they can actually go round bends too.

    2. Re:Minis are underpowered by julesh · · Score: 1

      'Cause 0-60 in 7.1s and top speed of 140MPH isn't enough for you?

      (stats here, requires flash).

  14. Correction... by eta526 · · Score: 4, Informative

    MINI is calling them Motorboards, not Motherboards. The article is incorrect.

  15. Sample messages by Suffering+Bastard · · Score: 1

    Included in the MINI motorboard manual:

    "The wrapper may be MINI, but the package is Jumbo."

    "Hummers suck."

    "I drive a MINI! I'm so fucking happy!!"

    And to that tailgating prick behind you:
    "Back off, fuckface!"

    Of course, in the end, we all know this will primarily be used to advertise YouTube videos and phishing sites.

    "www.p4yp4l.com! d4 sh1zn1tz!!11!!!!!11!!!"
    -SB

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    1. Re:Sample messages by eta526 · · Score: 1

      Another option targeted to the tailgater behind you:

      "Please don't squish the Mini."

      Or to the slow driver in front:

      "Hurry up before I drive this thing up your tailpipe!"

  16. You get a RFID tag IN THE MAIL? by Dekortage · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This means that the billboards will display their messages whenever the MAIL DELIVERY TRUCK drives by. Nice. And I'm betting a number of tags will mysteriously get lost in the mail and end up on eBay. Other issues:

    • If it's a keyfob, then it will also trigger the signs when someone is driving their OTHER non-Mini vehicle. Many families have two cars, and people drive other cars.
    • The article says "When the boards detect that you are about the drive by, they deliver a personal message based on the information you originally gave." In other words, when you're driving 70mph down the road, make sure you look up for your important message from your car manufacturer -- and then miss your turn.
    • Opposite extreme: you're stuck in traffic for 50 minutes underneath the sign.

    And there are too many ideas for mischievous messages... "Mini announces recall of your vehicle's braking system" for example.

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    1. Re:You get a RFID tag IN THE MAIL? by smitty97 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      when you're driving 70mph down the road, make sure you look up for your important message from your car manufacturer -- and then miss your turn.

      "Jim! TURN HERE-> "

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    2. Re:You get a RFID tag IN THE MAIL? by Dekortage · · Score: 1

      Reminds of the signs I saw on a highway in Pennsylvania... "Jim Thorpe, 2 miles"... "Jim Thorpe, 1 mile"... "Jim Thorpe, exit". Must be nice for Jim to have such an arrangement with the highway department.

      (Yes, I know it refers to this.)

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    3. Re:You get a RFID tag IN THE MAIL? by Shadowplay00 · · Score: 1

      Umm..maybe they won't trigger anything until they're activated at the website? Which means it's about as secure as anything accessible via the web.

    4. Re:You get a RFID tag IN THE MAIL? by nasch · · Score: 1
      This means that the billboards will display their messages whenever the MAIL DELIVERY TRUCK drives by. Nice.
      Sounds like it's an active tag, so perhaps it has an off switch and/or requires a battery.
      And I'm betting a number of tags will mysteriously get lost in the mail and end up on eBay.
      Why are you betting that? You think postal theft is commonplace? Why do you think so?
      * If it's a keyfob, then it will also trigger the signs when someone is driving their OTHER non-Mini vehicle. Many families have two cars, and people drive other cars.
      1) So what? 2) They could leave the transmitter in the glovebox. It's not clear to me, though, if this is THE key fob that you use to remotely unlock the car, or if it's just A key fob that serves no other purpose besides triggering billboards. Since the FAQ asks about getting another key fob for another driver, maybe it's the former.
      * The article says "When the boards detect that you are about the drive by, they deliver a personal message based on the information you originally gave." In other words, when you're driving 70mph down the road, make sure you look up for your important message from your car manufacturer -- and then miss your turn.
      You generally miss turns because of reading a billboard?
      * Opposite extreme: you're stuck in traffic for 50 minutes underneath the sign.
      LOL! Love this one. Again, you may be able to turn the thing off. But what if there are TWO people in the traffic jam next to the billboard with fobs? Does the closest one win (lose?)?
      And there are too many ideas for mischievous messages... "Mini announces recall of your vehicle's braking system" for example.
      But the car owner controls the message. Unless you're talking about someone hacking the database or the billboard. In which case your tin foil is looking a little wrinkled, maybe time for a fresh hat.
    5. Re:You get a RFID tag IN THE MAIL? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you really take that post seriously????

    6. Re:You get a RFID tag IN THE MAIL? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This means that the billboards will display their messages whenever the MAIL DELIVERY TRUCK drives by.

      Ok, but it's still advertising by Mini regardless of what vehicle is near it. What difference does it make which vehicle triggers it?

      And I'm betting a number of tags will mysteriously get lost in the mail and end up on eBay.

      What makes you say that? I've never had anything stolen from my mail, which I actually find kind of remarkable considering how many people have access to it. In either case, the post office has pretty good security... why would you expect this to be stolen more than any other package?

      If it's a keyfob, then it will also trigger the signs when someone is driving their OTHER non-Mini vehicle. Many families have two cars, and people drive other cars.

      Ok. And?

      It's still kind of cool, and it's still eye-catching advertising for Mini (regardless of which specific make and model of car is driving by) so I don't see why this would even be an issue.

      The article says "When the boards detect that you are about the drive by, they deliver a personal message based on the information you originally gave." In other words, when you're driving 70mph down the road, make sure you look up for your important message from your car manufacturer -- and then miss your turn.

      If you frequently miss turns because of billboards, even animated ones, you're probably not fit to drive in the first place. Again, I don't see why this would be an issue.

      Opposite extreme: you're stuck in traffic for 50 minutes underneath the sign.

      That would be the exact same as if you didn't have the keyfob, except perhaps mildly less boring. Once more, I don't see how it's an issue.

      You're not very good at this whole "let's make up some issues so I sound smarter than the entire ad agency" post thing.

  17. d'oh by nomadic · · Score: 1

    I'm a MINI owner in Miami, I WANT MY FOB!!

    1. Re:d'oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Miami area FOB's arrive by sea daily.

    2. Re:d'oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know that one of the Mini signs in Miami is located on the West side of 826, around NW 48 ST.

  18. Insult? by QuickFox · · Score: 1

    insults, such as 'Jim, nice to see you finally emerge from your mother's basement'

    What? Saying he's like a Slashdotter is an insult? No way! That's a compliment you insensitive clod!

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  19. Surely by gallondr00nk · · Score: 1

    Say these things caught on, and you got a discount off your car for using a keyfob. Surely the billboards (during heavy traffic) would only display said adverts for a second or less (due to sheer number of users)? Roadside strobe advertising, just what everyone needs!

    1. Re:Surely by aaza · · Score: 1
      Roadside strobe advertising, just what everyone needs!

      No, they're called Blipverts.

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  20. And the question is, ???WHY???? by wowbagger · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And the question I have is, Why? Why would I *want* to be a part of this? Are they going to pay me to endure the targeted advertising?

    This makes as much sense to me as signing up for a free poke in the eye.

    1. Re:And the question is, ???WHY???? by Astral+Jung · · Score: 1

      This makes as much sense to me as signing up for a free poke in the eye.
      Hold out for the blow to the head.

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    2. Re:And the question is, ???WHY???? by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      And the question I have is, Why? Why would I *want* to be a part of this? Are they going to pay me to endure the targeted advertising? This makes as much sense to me as signing up for a free poke in the eye.

      Apparently its not obvious that YOU are not the target market. Mini owners who want to do something cool because they like "making a statement about themselves" and being attention whores will be all over it. Coupled with the fact that for right now its limited to a few people and you have a brilliant marketing campaign that will likely receive an extremely large amount of free press.

      However what do you want to bet some enterprising businessman with a Mini buys one of these to advertise their website or business? Or some business owner pays a mini owner with one to advertise his business.

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    3. Re:And the question is, ???WHY???? by Brickwall · · Score: 1
      "This makes as much sense to me as signing up for a free poke in the eye.

      Hold out for the blow to the head."

      Why not the dagger up the clitoris? Oh, wait; this is /. The OP couldn't possibly be a girl.

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  21. RFID keyfob and toll by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    I wounder if the RFID keyfob gets in the way of the RFID based I-pass used in the Chicago area

  22. No Thanks! by bergeron76 · · Score: 1

    Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

    Does anyone remember that insanely irritating scene in Minority report when every ad was calling his name.

    Ugh, no thanks. I'll stick to nice quiet billboards that ignore me just as easily as I ignore them.

    I can see it now: HEY CHRIS, APPLY HEAD-ON TO YOUR FOREHEAD, HEY CHRIS, APPLY HEAD-ON TO YOUR FOREHEAD, HEY CHRIS, HEAD-ON CAN BE APPLIED DIRECTLY TO YOUR FOREHEAD - HEY CHRIS, IT'S IN STORES NOW - HEAD-ON!

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    1. Re:No Thanks! by nasch · · Score: 1
      I can see it now: HEY CHRIS, APPLY HEAD-ON TO YOUR FOREHEAD...
      Did you RTFS? The car owner decides what the billboard says (though I would guess that particular message would be too long). PS I had to truncate your message because the caps triggered the lameness filter!
    2. Re:No Thanks! by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 1

      "HEAD-ON CAN BE APPLIED DIRECTLY TO YOUR FOREHEAD"

      I see those ads too, and I wonder - why? What does it do? Is it breath freshener? Why would I apply that to my forehead?

      Yes, I know I could look it up, but isn't that the point of advertising - to tell me what your product does? (as opposed to driving me up a wall with the repetition)

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    3. Re:No Thanks! by NsOmNiA91130 · · Score: 1

      It's some sort of cream or chapstick thing that's filled with "natural" herbs and gets rid of headaches. Or so I hear.

    4. Re:No Thanks! by bergeron76 · · Score: 1

      You're either rhetorically missing my point, or clearly making it. ;)

      Marketing is getting out of control. Marketing is a subtle form of brainwashing. McDonalds proved that more than 60 years ago with their "target the kids" campaign/colorful "style". People buy shit because they see a logo/symbol and think they need something from there. It's a basic human instinct that's getting tapped for the purpose of big businesses and their bottom line. EVERY CEO on the planet will tell you that their "Brand recognition" is the _key_ to product sales. The ideal market is children. Why do you think the "Cereal" isle of the grocery is all colorful/flashy, and the vegetable isle is droll?

      My response to "intrusive" marketing is to boycott the product family and the corporation that produces the product.

      Think about it while you watch TV.

      Why is MTV so "flashy"? Because it's target is teenagers.
      Why is Discovery so "calm"? Because it's target is intellectuals (or people that can't sleep; depending on the time of day).

      Marketing isn't designed to entertain you - it's designed to entertain you for the purpose of getting your money.

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    5. Re:No Thanks! by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 1

      I think I'm making it for you.

      I have no idea what that product does, and because of their marketing tactics, I have no intention of finding out. So, not only did they annoy me, they wasted their money.

      Vegetable isle is dull? That's where all the good stuff is! I would skip the cerial isle, but caffine is located there ;)

      I guess that comes from getting all my TV via torrent, sans commercials.

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    6. Re:No Thanks! by bergeron76 · · Score: 1

      Here's the commercial I'm talking about:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOvFIxUz2XY

      Warning: It's incredibly annoying.

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    7. Re:No Thanks! by bergeron76 · · Score: 1

      Ahh, there's also a great spoof of it here:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAbAIpZG7II&mode=re lated&search=

      Please don't hate me in the morning.

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  23. Isn't it obvious? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

    You know that scene in the movie Minority Report where Tom Cruise just had his eyes replaced and has that bandage over his eyes that his doctor told him not to remove to soon or he'd go permanently blind and then those spider bots come in and he hides in a bathtub full of ice water but they find him and pull the bandage up and shine a bright light directly into his eyes but he strangely isn't injured at all except having to turn his rigamortis grin into a rigamortis grimace for a couple seconds?

    This is just like that.

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    1. Re:Isn't it obvious? by Jaqenn · · Score: 1

      I figured that he spent the remainder of the movie blind in one eye. Notice that he keeps one eye under the bandage.

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    2. Re:Isn't it obvious? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      Yeah, he could be blind in one eye and have one good eye, and that actually could have been a pretty cool handicap to incorporate into the story. I don't recall any obvious references to it though, despite him going about doing many a thing that a person who had just lost their depth perception would probably find difficult. It's just a nitpick of a decent but not spectacular movie though. If I want to nitpick a Phillip K. Dick film adaptation I'll watch Blade Runner again. :)

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  24. Cost? by AugustZephyr · · Score: 1

    Is there a cost for this service or deposit for the key fobs? Otherwise it sounds like a very creative idea. Mini USA has been exceptionally creative with there previous billboards. Check this one out: http://www.adrants.com/images/Mini_Billboard.jpg

  25. So let's get this straight by Radon360 · · Score: 1

    A company is going to roll out advertisement for people who already own their product? This might be a good idea with soda-pop, fast food and other consumables, but how does it sell more cars? One might argue that it strengthens brand loyalty within their consumer, but if one buys a mini, I would have to believe that there's already a strong consumer loyalty present to encourage someone to buy an overpriced, lower fuel economy compact car.

    I'd settle for a hack that would say "Stop looking to billboard for support in gloating over your car purchase and watch where in hell you're going instead!"

    1. Re:So let's get this straight by IflyRC · · Score: 1

      Well, marketing gurus could tie the owner of MINI in with a lot of other products. By knowing they drive a MINI they may be more likely to buy/own product X. So, MINI could increase their own revenues by selling ad space that is directly linked to their customers.

    2. Re:So let's get this straight by jeffeb3 · · Score: 1

      Word of mouth advertising is the Best promotion of a product, and what is going to cause more conversation than this idea?

    3. Re:So let's get this straight by Radon360 · · Score: 1

      Well, I'd agree that word of mouth advertising is very good for bringing an obscure product into the spotlight, or improving a brand's image based on other people's positive testimonials, but do we really have a significant number of people that would be more inclined to buy a Mini if their "cool friend" has this RFID tag that makes a billboard display some pointless message each time they drive by? Is the Mini still that obscure of a brand?

      Draw this as an interesting parallel: I think we can all agree that some beer commercials are quite clever or at least somewhat funny. They lead to people talking about them all the time. They are the fodder of viral emails. These ad garner their due recognition amongst the general public. Does it make the average beer drinker more inclined to buy that brand of beer? Does it really sell more beer in proportion to its success versus, say, one that's informative about the benefits of drinking that brand of beer?

      Yeah, perhaps I'm still missing the point of where this billboard idea will massively succeed in its purpose (to get more Minis sold). Personally, if I were in charge of the advertising budget, I'd be looking for other ideas to spend it on...or at least massively refine this one so that it would be a lot more effective at its intended goal.

    4. Re:So let's get this straight by damiam · · Score: 1

      Minis overpriced? They're not too cheap, but they're also one of the best-driving compact cars you can buy.

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    5. Re:So let's get this straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Side stepping your flame bait, I would like to point out that brand loyalty for the "mini" brand is much the same as brand loyalty for the initial Neons, The new Beattles and other similar cars.

      The people that most often get these cars aren't interested in the manufacturers ability to make a sold car. They are interested in a "cute", popularly accepted car.

      The main differance between the mini and the rest of these cars is that the mini is built to last.

      Mini's are built by BMW, use BMW engines and are serviced by BMW trained staff. They are more expensive. But paying for quality isn't a crime.

      You can go buy a mini s for less than 25k, and still have it in 5 years. Or you can go buy a New beatle RS for less than 20k, and replace it in 5 years because it's dead. You pick.

  26. Will You Marry Me? by gigowiz · · Score: 1

    Any bets as to how long before we see a TV "reporter" with "breaking news" about the novel use of this technology in a marriage proposal?

    GIGOwiz

  27. Jimmy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks for paying MSRP!

  28. The biggest problem? by soft_guy · · Score: 1

    The biggest problem is prank messages? I think all the messages will be prank messages - I think that's pretty much the idea.

    I assume someone at Mini gets to review the messages and decide which ones are allowed, otherwise there will be obscene messages, threats, etc. This will be like when Nike had the shoes you could order with writing stitched into them and some guy wanted his to say "Sweatshop" and Nike said no.

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  29. Powered keyfobs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, how big a battery will I have to carry around on my keychain, on the off-chance that I might drive past one of these billboards? Or will I need to plug my keys into the cigarette lighter while driving?

    1. Re:Powered keyfobs? by vakuona · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it won't need batteries, because it will only be on when you are actually driving, and it is in the fob. Unless the guys over at MINI didn't think to power it that way.

  30. Who the hell would sign up for this? by Critical+Facilities · · Score: 1

    Who could possibly care about this enough to go through the effort to sign up for something so retarded? If your life is running so short on excitement that your idea of a "thrill" is seeing some hackneyed catchphrase of your choosing displayed over the interstate as you drive by it everyday, you may just need to get out of your parents' basement!

    Moreover, imagine the cases of road rage this could inspire. Some douchebag decides to have something offensive/annoying displayed as he/she drives past a billboard EVERY day in bumper to bumper rush hour traffic and some other poor soul who already hates his/her commute has to see the same message if they happen to commute home on the same route at the same time. I can definitely see how someone might snap like Milton after the 10,000th viewing of "Real men drive Fords" or "Know Jesus, know peace....".

    Sounds like a dopey idea to me.

  31. At least from a bridge to the road. by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

    Using active tags and a highly directional antenna on the receiver, I suspect that you can probably "see" a tag from quite a distance away. Active tags transmit continuously, so they don't need a high-strength RF field to give them the juice to operate, like the passive tags inside SpeedPasses, etc.

    Examples of active RFID already in use are the EZ Pass boxes used in cars in New England and the Northeast. They have toll gates in New Jersey that you drive through at full speed, and the receivers are up at normal Interstate bridge height (so trucks can go through them). And I doubt very much that they represent anything close to the state-of-the-art with respect to RFID. You can probably do some nice tradeoffs, like enhanced signal processing, when you're not receiving a bunch of tags every second.

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  32. My Favorite by wsanders · · Score: 2, Funny

    A friend of a friend once hacked one of those generator-powered message signs that the Highway Department leaves running, unlocked everywhere, with this message and the 800 number of the highway department:

    YOUR WEB SITE HERE
    1 - 800 - USA - MINI

    (or whetever their number is)

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  33. I feel I should mention by tirefire · · Score: 1

    I feel I should mention that MINI coopers are hideous and so are the people who drive them.

    Honestly, they're almost as bad as PT Cruisers.

    1. Re:I feel I should mention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps you should learn not to succumb those feelings unless you enjoy publicly revealing yourself to be an ass.

  34. but honey,... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this part of that same experiment where the spooks found RFID on their coins?

    So you get some cash from an ATM, have a drink, and when you're driving along with your family, you look up and see this:

    Thanks for the tip, Jim Smith!
    kisses,
        Nipples

  35. One more step towards ... by SuseLover · · Score: 1

    Our society is well on it's way to looking exactly like the movie Bladerunner. There are a few megacorps running everything and advertising is everywhere; the sky, smart billboards, ads that target you(personally) as you walk by them, etc.

    Scary. The future seems pretty bleak if things continue as they are.

  36. Fighting back with RFID readers by parvenu74 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is there something about RFID -- or "active" RFID -- that allows only a certain set of RFID readers to be able to read the chip? What I want to know is: how do I get an RFID reader? I want mount an RFID reader in front of my house and log all of the cars that come by, when they come by, if they are staying within "view" of the RFID reader for a certain amount of time (like, say, arriving an hour after I leave for work and leaving an hour before I return), etc. Pretty much every car is going to have RFID tagging in the near future, if only by way of the RFID chips being placed in new tired these days, so the only "hard" part will be correlating the RFID to a person's identity, but if the RFID can trigger a video recorder then this challenge is narrowed down. Also, I want RFID stickers I can surreptitiously plan on the neighborhood brat's skateboard and bike so I can confront his parents and/or press charge with evidence in hand.

    And above all else: I want an RFID jammer! Why? BECAUSE I'M MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!!!!

  37. 100' appointment calendar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the keyfob-triggered message could be updated daily by the owner... sweet.

    "Jim in the blue MINI: Dentist at 2:PM"

    "Jim in the blue MINI: 10:AM court/Aggr.Assault/VehHom Appeal"

  38. TMI! TMI! by grcumb · · Score: 0
    Each owner tells MINI what to show when they drive by, such as 'Jim, you are one sexy beast.' ... MINI calls the interactive billboards "Motherboards."

    Okay, that is just way too freudian for me. Look, son, the only way you're going to get over your oedipus complex is to move out of the basement!

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  39. KeyFobs still linked to PID by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 3, Insightful
    MINI swears that no personal information in contained in the keyfobs...


    Doesn't really matter. All you need to know as a marketeer is the unique ID of the FOB. When the FOB was registered your name, etc. goes into the master DB in the sky and from that point forward any POS or PO-Advertisement that sees your FOB will have access to your personally identifiable consumer portrait.

    The "see some stupid phrase on a billboard as you're driving to your lifeless cube" game is just a way to train various peons to be good consumers and hang onto their FOB.

    1. Re:KeyFobs still linked to PID by c4miles · · Score: 1

      Dude, 'fob' is a word, not an acronym, unless your keychain is Fresh Off the Boat.

    2. Re:KeyFobs still linked to PID by Brickwall · · Score: 1
      All you need to know as a marketeer is the unique ID of the FOB. When the FOB was registered your name, etc. goes into the master DB in the sky

      How long before Homeland Security demands these on all cars, and starts tracking your movements at all times? Or before some state transportation agency decides to install them on license plates, and automatically detect speeding, running yellow lights, etc.? That thing disappearing in your rear view mirror is freedom.

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    3. Re:KeyFobs still linked to PID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2008, when we get rid of that asshat in the presidential office.

  40. Brilliant marketing by Rodness · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They just got every egomaniac out there to carry around yet another 'MINI' branded keyfob on his keychain and show it off to friends, thus greatly improving their word-of-mouth brand recognition. And they've managed to make (some) people WANT to look at 'MINI' branded billboards.

  41. My Billboard: "Fancycwabs' MINI is a POS." by fancycwabs · · Score: 1

    Throwing a rod at 54,000 miles and having the dealer tell you that you drove it through water or overrevved the engine, and therefore it wasn't a "manufacturing defect." $8,100 later we can drive the car up to keyfob billboards again.

  42. Re: traffic by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 1

    "This could be fun to put out fake terror warnings on billboards to get people to drive faster :)"

    Or to get them to slow down: "...smokey on your right, 1/4 mile ahead, hiding behind the tree..." Like having CB in which few broadcast but many listen.

  43. Good idea? by j-min · · Score: 0

    I like the idea of even more external distractions for people as they drive.

    To be sure, this is a huge step for marketing and advertising, and was one of the cooler, more realistic ideas pictured in Minority Report, but I'd rather not see it on the road and instead have drivers focus on ... well, driving.

  44. I welcome our targeted advertising overlords. by Jaqenn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think that I *would* carry a keychain if it could made me see mostly ads for things I've already expressed interested in. Give up my pharmaceutical and home mortgage billboards for anime and videogame billboards? Sign me up.

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  45. Hrm... by Odin_Tiger · · Score: 1

    I can think of at least a few bits of ASCII art that could be fun on a billboard...

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  46. NON-customizable message... by sloth+jr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    According to the linked article, the message isn't customizable by you at all - you simply have to give Mini USA typical marketing demographic info, sign up for their spam, and then THEY get to choose the message.

    Bleah.

  47. 2 at a time? by EEJD · · Score: 1

    What happens when two people with mini keyfobs drive by at the same time? Or a husband and wife who both own minis, but are driving in one car? Does it only show the message for the first keyfob it detects? Or does it flash back and forth between the two?

    1. Re:2 at a time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably.

    2. Re:2 at a time? by jj00 · · Score: 1

      What happens when two people with mini keyfobs drive by at the same time? Or a husband and wife who both own minis, but are driving in one car?
      Message: "Guess who's cheating on the other..."
  48. Billboard Video to follow? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Think this is a "good idea", wait till someone comes up with a more advanced version that can even handle full billboard video. Just think of the hacks and the traffic jams that could come with those. Imagine what hacks people might even be willing to pay for. Imagine the spread of RFID tags with targeted marketing as the goal and politicians will love it.

  49. cost? by mattpointblank · · Score: 1

    How much is this costing them? Surely it's fairly pricey to make custom-encoded RFID chips for every Jim who signs up? How is this offset? Nobody is going to pay attention the ad subject, it'll all be focussed on the inevitable "Jim is gay" hacked messages.

  50. Re:They'll see ya, alright! You'll be 200ft tall! by 4d3fect · · Score: 1

    Is that sig from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas? or Withnail & I?

  51. thanks mini by Treates2 · · Score: 0

    i always wanted to relive futuristic films from the 80's.

  52. Insurance Companies by MattPat · · Score: 1

    I bet insurance companies could have fun with this. For instance, you get into a little accident, and you just happen to get your car fixed at a shop on the insurance company's referral list. They slip an RFID tag into your car, and before you know it, right when you're coming up on that S-curve...

    "Jim, quick! Look behind you!"

    Instant money!

  53. Note: keyfob, not tag by Brandybuck · · Score: 1

    This isn't a normal RFID tag, Those only have a range for a few feet. For this to be of any use for billboards, it has to have a range of several hundred feet. Hence the much larger keyfob.

    People who are worried that their new RFID tagged underwear will suddenly start broadcasting to billboards can just relax. That won't happen for a few more years yet...

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  54. Freud strikes again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    They are called Motorboards not motherboards. Perv.

  55. FUD by P.+Niss · · Score: 1

    RFID = evil

    "Motherboard" = Big Brother

  56. Voluntary surveilance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Me me me!! *I* want to be spied on too. And could I get a side of invasion of privacy with that?

  57. Mother--- by SeaFox · · Score: 1
    MINI calls the interactive billboards "Motherboards."

    Aren't you glad you're a Beta, Jim? Instead of an Alpha? And then you're much better than the Gammas and Deltas.
  58. CAPS LOCK? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Repeat after me:

    Mini

    Mini

    Mini

    Mini

    Not MINI

    Mini

  59. So what happens if multiple drivers.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    who have one of these keyfobs drives by one of these billboards?

    TJHOAHNNK YYOOUU FAORRE BOUNYEI NAG A CMOIONLI !D U D E

    (driver 1: Thank you for buying a mini!/driver 2:John you are once cool dude

  60. Picture this... by MikeTheMan · · Score: 1

    MacDonalds buys a MINI and gets one of these keyfobs with the phrase "McDonalds - i'm lovin' it", and then either a) parks their MINI right under the sign and pays someone to sit there all day, or b) drops the keyfob right under the sign somewhere and leaves it there. Presto - free McDonalds advertising! (minus the price of the MINI)

  61. Good Idea just not for Mini carriers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well I thinking driving is fine, and well billboards are fine. But interactive personalized billboards while driving, may not be such a hot attention grabbing idea.

        "JIM - Check out the xxxtra large Hooters
                                                                                wings and mugs special."

        after much neck turning to read ones own very special targeted marketing message the smell of burnt rubber waffes over a deployed air bag

        the sign changes

        "JIM - Needs a tow truck, a lawyer, new insurance quotes and do forget Aspero the eight hour pain killer"

  62. I bet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You just traded your Miata for a MINI didn't you? So, which one does your boyfriend like more?