In this case... I can actually see 10 years of development being beneficial to the developers... because well... people have been waiting so long and nearly everyone who's ever seriously played PC games knows about how long this game has taken to come out... some people will buy it for the "HOLY SHIT" factor, some people will buy it because they are legitimately happy that it's out, and some people will buy it because, well, it's Duke Nukem, one of the original gaming badasses and they're happy to see him return. Yes, there will be people who won't buy it because "It'll bring forth the apocalypse" or some bullshit like that, or because they think it'll just be some mediocre shooter.
To me... it doesn't really matter. I don't care if 3D Realms has taken 10, maybe 15 years to release the game when it finally comes out. I'll buy it because I'm proud they atleast did it, regardless of missed dealines and such and so forth. It's a game, people... and as many jokes as there are about it... why not buy it so you can revel in the fact that you're playing an actual joke, and something nearly indelibly tied to geek/nerd culture.
Whatever... that's just what I think.
GR
You make a very valid point... I never really thought of it that way.
Especially considering that I've been somewhat of a supporter of the fair-tax plan.
Thanks for the input... I'll really keep that in consideration.
GR
I like the cat analogy. And you make a very valid point, and one that makes me wonder why people are so pissed of at Linus. It's not like he's really telling anyone what they can or can't do. And hell, even if he is, whoop dee doo... it's Linux, if you don't like what he says to do, change it, put your own scheduler in and shut the hell up. The same goes for security. It's your own choice, much like using Linux and how you want it, over using Windows or Apple and having everything "picked" for you. Get over the ME ideas people... it's not about what YOU want... it's what EVERYONE wants. Linux is a democracy, with nice anarchistic undertones...
But whatever, I'll probably get modded a troll for this.
GR
I know Red Hat Enterprise 4 (RHEL 4) came with out of the box FORTRAN support...
I thought that was the most bad-ass thing, just from a legacy software standpoint. Although many will argue (and I could probably be easily convinced otherwise) that FORTRAN is not under the "Legacy" title.
Either way...
I imagine most versions of Linux could easily be given the ability to do FORTRAN, so, I guess that's five languages (Along with all the other ones that people have listed)
GR
It doesn't matter how good of a FPS HALO is... it just doesn't. Because I know myself and some of my friends aren't that good at HALO, or FPS's in general. We play games for stories, and the massive attention to detail that the creators have put in things. And yes, I know, even when it comes to stories HALO may be a bit shallow, but, even still... that's only in-game. Bungie has done a fantastic job of elaborating on the story outside of the game. If you'd look beyond HALO as a mediocre FPS, and more as a diverse, well articulated universe... you'd get over your obvious fanboy-ism to whoever it is you support.
Sure, Microsoft may be funding them (and thus it means they are suckling the teet of Statan *rolls eyes), but, it doesn't mean that Bungie is a bad company, or that they themselves are getting complacent in all the hype. I mean, HALO 2 was over-hyped from the moment it was announced, yet, I still found a very compelling game, all because of the story.
So, shut up - please - about it being an "OK" Shooter, we know that.
It's a story, and IMHO a very deep story.
GR
Technically...
It's their gold... they give you a little so you can give them even more.
And they make up money, and give it to you so that they can charge even more for you to give them money.
And they make up money to give to the government so that they can charge you for the money that you put in the bank.
And they make up money for you to owe them.
Deadly... semi-circle.
That's American capitalism for you.
GR
So that's your way of combating my statement? Well done, asshole. You truly are one of the most ignorant closed minded, obscene bastards I've ever had any sort of communication with. And you obviously still know nothing of communism outside of it's definition. Yes, by definition, communism is "a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed" [Merriam-Webster], but, it doesn't mean currency doesn't exist. Soviet communism maintained a system of currency and only applied services as free, albeit poor. And thus people still didn't get everything free. And I see you didn't even try to challenge my argument on the "free items through no patents". So I guess I proved you wrong.
And, I don't know where in the hell you come off saying that I mentioned patents as communism... seems to me that you're putting words in my mouth.
And your whole gameshow tirade about how people like me are "fucktards" and should "slit my/their wrists" is very shallow. And something I don't take lightly. Apparently you've never known the pain people go through (I haven't either, but, I've known plenty of people who have) when combating suicidal thoughts.
And your rampant use of obscenities just proves your immaturity. The only people I've known to ever speak so vulgar uselessly are younger than 14... So... I'll say you're 12-13 (or have that mindset), and think "cussing" so much is "cool" and will get you "props" with all your little whorish middle school friends.
Have fun being an ignorant asshole, and have fun living your life in some dark little hole as a sore spot on the face of this earth, and as a lesion on the intelligence of this website, and this society.
GR
I hate to respond to a flame... but, I can't let these rampant, undeserved vulgarities go unchallenged.
First off... why do you say all of us "shitdot [Slashdot] sheeple [People] are against patents? That's like saying all of us are against Microsoft, or all of us hate the government to the very core of our existence. I'd honestly say that only a very small minority of the Slashdot users are truly 100% against patents. And even at that, by saying that an opposition to the patent system, or our general American economic system (if patents even apply in that context) is communist, then that makes you a fool. By arguing that an established "American" (even though other countries do the exact same) system is bad, we in turn improve (slowly) our "America". By having the people of a democratic country state their opinions about the systems in which they live under/by, they show their friends, neighbors and total strangers (like you for instance) that, while it may be harsh, they CARE about their country and how it runs... even if it seems to have gone to hell.
Secondly... Saying communism is the worst thing (you implied it) that has ever happened, means that you have no real understanding of it, or history at that... meaning that you (to quote you) are closer to a "fucktard" than all of the other educated and well-meaning readers of Slashdot.
And third... I don't think anyone has, or will say anything about getting anything free. Removing the patent system, or reforming it doesn't mean that products will be free. It just means that their will be more competition in the market, allowing more people to get more, better things, cheaply. Which, again - to contradict you - is the direct opposite of communism (Which does nothing but stifle competition). So... again, challenging these standards and systems actually promotes democracy and the American way of life, and keeps communism from manifesting our way of life.
Again... I hate to respond to a flame... but... people that ignorant and obscene I just cannot ignore.
GR
Amarok doesn't just own iTunes...
Amarok just plain owns!
When it finally gets ported to Windows I'm burning copies onto disk for my non-geek friends (quite a lot) and telling them that it is the greatest program (well... multimedia program) that I've ever used.
Although... most of those same people don't really understand the term browser, and lightly detailing the operations for a very simple task leaves some of them burned out and wondering what the hell I've said.
Regardless...
Amarok still owns... (Sorry if I'm flamebaiting or anything like that)
GR
And then there is the third group. Those who know all there is about the world, and all there is about god, and all there is about science. It's not even only the intelligent design guys, though they annoy me most. They've got the world figured; they know everything about it, and they've pinned it's dessicated body to a piece of felt, and stuck it under glass, where they can point to it every day and declaim how much they "know".
AMEN!
I mean, in my life I've always seen a place for both the concept of intelligent design and evolution. God started it, and has since guided it along. I've pointed out recently that the literal interpretation of God's image is not right. That image is character, and what happens... the memories it entails. And God being omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent... he can do things that we can't even begin to grasp with our minds. So, God making us in his image is more God making us in his character - dynamic creatures full of, and capable of complex emotions and thoughts.
I just hate it when the creation (in whatever sense it came to be) comes up... because people are like "blah, blah, blah the world is THIS old..." How do you know? You don't... the bible is very vague on the details of the creation. So... saying it happened in a *pop, pop, pop* action just seems unrealistic to me, and also demeans the true capabilities of his power.
But, that's just me.
Damn straight. I'd rather have one of those any day than a frickin iPhone...
A Unix datacenter and more resources than any one person will probably use computing in 20 years... hell yeah!
Who needs an iPhone when you could just hook up a laser (see TRON) and live in the computer... And give let your friends join in TOO!
GR
You make very valid points... all of which I agree with. And, I'm not trying to determine what human is. I'm just speaking in generalities. And, I'm also speaking in a very current tense - of what humans are like today. And, on the subject of the survival of the human race, I'm only saying that all of these things would practically nullify all of what we know as the human race - today. Not tomorrow, not next year, not a century or thousands of centuries from now. I personally am not entirely sure on my religious preference... or even if I have one. I've spent most of my life making decisions on what I know as right, and what feels the right thing to do.
I don't care if we leave this earth, or the current "human" states we have today. I'm just merely stating that the method you speak of requires humanity to become something it isn't today, and that's what people like Hawking are talking about protecting.
GR
Yes... but, when/if this happens, would we even be human (our current states) anymore. We may still have human tendencies, we may still have "human" bodies. But, humans now almost depend on the concept of death. If we digitize our minds, and could,in essence, live forever would we be human? I don't believe so. We wouldn't even have our "Human" beliefs of higher gods, or controlling factors. We would have taken our lives, and our destinies into our own hands, we would have defied death and (quite possibly) lost our sexual drive. And if that happens, and we live forever, [artificially] produce babies, and can span the universe - essentially lost all of our natural human ways - Then we would have truly lost the human race, and done it ourselves.
But that's just how I see it.
GR
And, I think more what he means is that what gets censored, may not always be internet censorship. Mass-media censorship really delves into his argument. Because the things that get censored (more ignored) are the things that would actually cause the masses to reel in their new-found knowledge. Despite this lovely internet we have, we still have millions who use the internet for nothing more than causal games and their email. It's that idiot box in their living rooms and dens that they learn the events of the world through. They remain complacent, and content because they are selectively shown what their supposed "superiors" want them to know. They still have the option of actually using some effort and searching the internet for the real news in the world, but, sadly, most choose not to. Censorship starts with complacency, which is permeated through their Televisions.
GR
I'd like to know where this idea of teenagers having money comes from.
I just turned 18 four months ago... and, still, as it's always been, I have no cellphone, don't have an allowance, and yeah...
I want some disposable cash!
But, I do see what you're talking about (I'm just a bad example of a teenager - I'm more like an adult [always have been] according to most people I've ever met)
And even still... I see kids with crap they don't need, and they abuse it because they have no concept that money doesn't come as easy to them as it does to those who gave it to them. I remember right when the RAZR came out. I knew of someone who got one soon after they came out (kid), broke it, and the parents shelled out the $600 to get them another one - and they treated it like crap. This is what the music industry attaches to. Stupid kids with no concept of money and parents who will do anything so they don't actually have to raise their children (with any sense).
The fact that I've recently started playing again doesn't help this...
After a three year abscence... It's changed a lot, and the people are worse... and far more immature...
But, if you get past the immature players, and look for the people like me, who've played for quite a long time (2001 started my first character - Which I still play - Domon Kashu [Yes, after the G-Gundam character]) the game can still be enjoyable.
But regardless...
I was amazed the other day when I realized that total there was over 100k people playing at the same time... when, back like... four years ago the most you'd see during prime hours was like... 13k...
Goes to show you how time's change... and how games, no matter how cheesy, campy, or awesome (maybe in this case) stick around because people like it...
Say what you want... Runescape is a train that probably won't ever stop (at least for a while).
GR
*shakes head slowly*
Oh my God...
It's sad when we forget that pain exists outside of our own species...
And even worse when forget that there are at least "humane" ways to fill our (sometimes unnecessary) urges...
GR
I wholly agree to this...
I'm 18 now, almost out of highschool...
And I really don't want to go to college... yet...
And even mentioning that I don't want to go to really anyone gets me looked at like an outcast and an idiot... because "college is the only way I'm going to do anything worthwhile in this world."
And I hate that mantra... I don't need the stress when I'm about to take "my first steps".
I want to go into this very field, or something like it, and am happy that this post has been made, because it gives me the advice that I've been looking for. I see from alot of these people that heading out into the world, finding a job and seeing how I fare is actually probably better for me as a person than by going to college. It may be very childish of myself to say that I'm already well adapted to the world, but... I feel I am... I've spent my life in the adult world... I've seen the bills first hand and seen how the tear down on my parents spirit. I've gone to a small highschool with tight-knit, but well established groups, and thus feel that I'm also very capable of handling myself in a stressful, "adult" atmosphere.
I've considered college extensively... but, I've also considered going out for my certs, finding a job in this field (because around my area it's not a very apparent job), and seeing how I do... and then as I come to realize things I don't know, just pursue personal study and education to learn all of those things.
Maybe college one day... Maybe sooner than I know...
But forcing someone to go into college, forcing someone to do something they really have no immediate desire to do... stresses them, and pushes them away... which is usually the total opposite of what you are trying to accomplish.
GR
I'm pretty sure he understands that...
But, explaining something like a server (which can be complicated as it is) to someone who pretty much only knows how to say, play music, games, browse the internet and cut her computer on and off... something like a picture of a big rack mounted server may be a very good image metaphor for the average person who doesn't want or care too much about how a computer works, they just want it to work... that a server is complicated... but it's what makes the internet the internet...
GR
No...
He means...
"No (as in it won't break all the Macros he's written), macros still work fine (as in... they work)"
Get your English straight, and learn to use punctuation...
GR
A year and a half ago the PS3 was the system everyone wanted, the XBox 360 was an overly expensive console produced by an evil coporation, and the Revolution was exciting to Nintendo fans with massive disinterest for everyone else; today the PS3 is an overly expensive console produced by an evil coporation, the XBox 360 is exciting to XBox fans with massive disinterest for everyone else, and the Wii is the system everyone wants.
Thank you, I've been waiting for someone to put it so perfectly...
GR
Slashdot Mirror
In this case... I can actually see 10 years of development being beneficial to the developers... because well... people have been waiting so long and nearly everyone who's ever seriously played PC games knows about how long this game has taken to come out... some people will buy it for the "HOLY SHIT" factor, some people will buy it because they are legitimately happy that it's out, and some people will buy it because, well, it's Duke Nukem, one of the original gaming badasses and they're happy to see him return. Yes, there will be people who won't buy it because "It'll bring forth the apocalypse" or some bullshit like that, or because they think it'll just be some mediocre shooter.
To me... it doesn't really matter. I don't care if 3D Realms has taken 10, maybe 15 years to release the game when it finally comes out. I'll buy it because I'm proud they atleast did it, regardless of missed dealines and such and so forth. It's a game, people... and as many jokes as there are about it... why not buy it so you can revel in the fact that you're playing an actual joke, and something nearly indelibly tied to geek/nerd culture.
Whatever... that's just what I think.
GR
Well said.
GR
You make a very valid point... I never really thought of it that way.
Especially considering that I've been somewhat of a supporter of the fair-tax plan.
Thanks for the input... I'll really keep that in consideration.
GR
I like the cat analogy. And you make a very valid point, and one that makes me wonder why people are so pissed of at Linus. It's not like he's really telling anyone what they can or can't do. And hell, even if he is, whoop dee doo... it's Linux, if you don't like what he says to do, change it, put your own scheduler in and shut the hell up. The same goes for security. It's your own choice, much like using Linux and how you want it, over using Windows or Apple and having everything "picked" for you. Get over the ME ideas people... it's not about what YOU want... it's what EVERYONE wants. Linux is a democracy, with nice anarchistic undertones...
But whatever, I'll probably get modded a troll for this.
GR
I know Red Hat Enterprise 4 (RHEL 4) came with out of the box FORTRAN support...
I thought that was the most bad-ass thing, just from a legacy software standpoint. Although many will argue (and I could probably be easily convinced otherwise) that FORTRAN is not under the "Legacy" title.
Either way... I imagine most versions of Linux could easily be given the ability to do FORTRAN, so, I guess that's five languages (Along with all the other ones that people have listed)
GR
It doesn't matter how good of a FPS HALO is... it just doesn't. Because I know myself and some of my friends aren't that good at HALO, or FPS's in general. We play games for stories, and the massive attention to detail that the creators have put in things. And yes, I know, even when it comes to stories HALO may be a bit shallow, but, even still... that's only in-game. Bungie has done a fantastic job of elaborating on the story outside of the game. If you'd look beyond HALO as a mediocre FPS, and more as a diverse, well articulated universe... you'd get over your obvious fanboy-ism to whoever it is you support.
Sure, Microsoft may be funding them (and thus it means they are suckling the teet of Statan *rolls eyes), but, it doesn't mean that Bungie is a bad company, or that they themselves are getting complacent in all the hype. I mean, HALO 2 was over-hyped from the moment it was announced, yet, I still found a very compelling game, all because of the story.
So, shut up - please - about it being an "OK" Shooter, we know that.
It's a story, and IMHO a very deep story.
GR
Technically... It's their gold... they give you a little so you can give them even more. And they make up money, and give it to you so that they can charge even more for you to give them money. And they make up money to give to the government so that they can charge you for the money that you put in the bank. And they make up money for you to owe them. Deadly... semi-circle. That's American capitalism for you. GR
So that's your way of combating my statement? Well done, asshole. You truly are one of the most ignorant closed minded, obscene bastards I've ever had any sort of communication with. And you obviously still know nothing of communism outside of it's definition. Yes, by definition, communism is "a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed" [Merriam-Webster], but, it doesn't mean currency doesn't exist. Soviet communism maintained a system of currency and only applied services as free, albeit poor. And thus people still didn't get everything free. And I see you didn't even try to challenge my argument on the "free items through no patents". So I guess I proved you wrong.
And, I don't know where in the hell you come off saying that I mentioned patents as communism... seems to me that you're putting words in my mouth.
And your whole gameshow tirade about how people like me are "fucktards" and should "slit my/their wrists" is very shallow. And something I don't take lightly. Apparently you've never known the pain people go through (I haven't either, but, I've known plenty of people who have) when combating suicidal thoughts.
And your rampant use of obscenities just proves your immaturity. The only people I've known to ever speak so vulgar uselessly are younger than 14... So... I'll say you're 12-13 (or have that mindset), and think "cussing" so much is "cool" and will get you "props" with all your little whorish middle school friends.
Have fun being an ignorant asshole, and have fun living your life in some dark little hole as a sore spot on the face of this earth, and as a lesion on the intelligence of this website, and this society.
GR
I hate to respond to a flame... but, I can't let these rampant, undeserved vulgarities go unchallenged.
First off... why do you say all of us "shitdot [Slashdot] sheeple [People] are against patents? That's like saying all of us are against Microsoft, or all of us hate the government to the very core of our existence. I'd honestly say that only a very small minority of the Slashdot users are truly 100% against patents. And even at that, by saying that an opposition to the patent system, or our general American economic system (if patents even apply in that context) is communist, then that makes you a fool. By arguing that an established "American" (even though other countries do the exact same) system is bad, we in turn improve (slowly) our "America". By having the people of a democratic country state their opinions about the systems in which they live under/by, they show their friends, neighbors and total strangers (like you for instance) that, while it may be harsh, they CARE about their country and how it runs... even if it seems to have gone to hell.
Secondly... Saying communism is the worst thing (you implied it) that has ever happened, means that you have no real understanding of it, or history at that... meaning that you (to quote you) are closer to a "fucktard" than all of the other educated and well-meaning readers of Slashdot.
And third... I don't think anyone has, or will say anything about getting anything free. Removing the patent system, or reforming it doesn't mean that products will be free. It just means that their will be more competition in the market, allowing more people to get more, better things, cheaply. Which, again - to contradict you - is the direct opposite of communism (Which does nothing but stifle competition). So... again, challenging these standards and systems actually promotes democracy and the American way of life, and keeps communism from manifesting our way of life.
Again... I hate to respond to a flame... but... people that ignorant and obscene I just cannot ignore.
GR
Amarok doesn't just own iTunes... Amarok just plain owns! When it finally gets ported to Windows I'm burning copies onto disk for my non-geek friends (quite a lot) and telling them that it is the greatest program (well... multimedia program) that I've ever used. Although... most of those same people don't really understand the term browser, and lightly detailing the operations for a very simple task leaves some of them burned out and wondering what the hell I've said. Regardless... Amarok still owns... (Sorry if I'm flamebaiting or anything like that) GR
This has got to be the simplest way to make clear what everyone else has been trying to say...
Thank you...
GR
AMEN!
I mean, in my life I've always seen a place for both the concept of intelligent design and evolution. God started it, and has since guided it along. I've pointed out recently that the literal interpretation of God's image is not right. That image is character, and what happens... the memories it entails. And God being omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent... he can do things that we can't even begin to grasp with our minds. So, God making us in his image is more God making us in his character - dynamic creatures full of, and capable of complex emotions and thoughts.
I just hate it when the creation (in whatever sense it came to be) comes up... because people are like "blah, blah, blah the world is THIS old..." How do you know? You don't... the bible is very vague on the details of the creation. So... saying it happened in a *pop, pop, pop* action just seems unrealistic to me, and also demeans the true capabilities of his power.
But, that's just me.
Damn straight. I'd rather have one of those any day than a frickin iPhone...
A Unix datacenter and more resources than any one person will probably use computing in 20 years... hell yeah!
Who needs an iPhone when you could just hook up a laser (see TRON) and live in the computer... And give let your friends join in TOO!
GR
Actualy... Spore could catch up if DNF actually did get released before Spore did...
But, that's just technicalities...
GR
Nice
You make very valid points... all of which I agree with. And, I'm not trying to determine what human is. I'm just speaking in generalities. And, I'm also speaking in a very current tense - of what humans are like today. And, on the subject of the survival of the human race, I'm only saying that all of these things would practically nullify all of what we know as the human race - today. Not tomorrow, not next year, not a century or thousands of centuries from now. I personally am not entirely sure on my religious preference... or even if I have one. I've spent most of my life making decisions on what I know as right, and what feels the right thing to do.
I don't care if we leave this earth, or the current "human" states we have today. I'm just merely stating that the method you speak of requires humanity to become something it isn't today, and that's what people like Hawking are talking about protecting.
GR
Yes... but, when/if this happens, would we even be human (our current states) anymore. We may still have human tendencies, we may still have "human" bodies. But, humans now almost depend on the concept of death. If we digitize our minds, and could ,in essence, live forever would we be human? I don't believe so. We wouldn't even have our "Human" beliefs of higher gods, or controlling factors. We would have taken our lives, and our destinies into our own hands, we would have defied death and (quite possibly) lost our sexual drive. And if that happens, and we live forever, [artificially] produce babies, and can span the universe - essentially lost all of our natural human ways - Then we would have truly lost the human race, and done it ourselves.
But that's just how I see it.
GR
And, I think more what he means is that what gets censored, may not always be internet censorship. Mass-media censorship really delves into his argument. Because the things that get censored (more ignored) are the things that would actually cause the masses to reel in their new-found knowledge. Despite this lovely internet we have, we still have millions who use the internet for nothing more than causal games and their email. It's that idiot box in their living rooms and dens that they learn the events of the world through. They remain complacent, and content because they are selectively shown what their supposed "superiors" want them to know. They still have the option of actually using some effort and searching the internet for the real news in the world, but, sadly, most choose not to. Censorship starts with complacency, which is permeated through their Televisions.
GR
I'd like to know where this idea of teenagers having money comes from.
I just turned 18 four months ago... and, still, as it's always been, I have no cellphone, don't have an allowance, and yeah...
I want some disposable cash!
But, I do see what you're talking about (I'm just a bad example of a teenager - I'm more like an adult [always have been] according to most people I've ever met)
And even still... I see kids with crap they don't need, and they abuse it because they have no concept that money doesn't come as easy to them as it does to those who gave it to them. I remember right when the RAZR came out. I knew of someone who got one soon after they came out (kid), broke it, and the parents shelled out the $600 to get them another one - and they treated it like crap. This is what the music industry attaches to. Stupid kids with no concept of money and parents who will do anything so they don't actually have to raise their children (with any sense).
The fact that I've recently started playing again doesn't help this...
After a three year abscence... It's changed a lot, and the people are worse... and far more immature...
But, if you get past the immature players, and look for the people like me, who've played for quite a long time (2001 started my first character - Which I still play - Domon Kashu [Yes, after the G-Gundam character]) the game can still be enjoyable.
But regardless...
I was amazed the other day when I realized that total there was over 100k people playing at the same time... when, back like... four years ago the most you'd see during prime hours was like... 13k...
Goes to show you how time's change... and how games, no matter how cheesy, campy, or awesome (maybe in this case) stick around because people like it...
Say what you want... Runescape is a train that probably won't ever stop (at least for a while).
GR
*shakes head slowly*
Oh my God...
It's sad when we forget that pain exists outside of our own species...
And even worse when forget that there are at least "humane" ways to fill our (sometimes unnecessary) urges...
GR
I wholly agree to this... I'm 18 now, almost out of highschool...
And I really don't want to go to college... yet...
And even mentioning that I don't want to go to really anyone gets me looked at like an outcast and an idiot... because "college is the only way I'm going to do anything worthwhile in this world."
And I hate that mantra... I don't need the stress when I'm about to take "my first steps".
I want to go into this very field, or something like it, and am happy that this post has been made, because it gives me the advice that I've been looking for. I see from alot of these people that heading out into the world, finding a job and seeing how I fare is actually probably better for me as a person than by going to college. It may be very childish of myself to say that I'm already well adapted to the world, but... I feel I am... I've spent my life in the adult world... I've seen the bills first hand and seen how the tear down on my parents spirit. I've gone to a small highschool with tight-knit, but well established groups, and thus feel that I'm also very capable of handling myself in a stressful, "adult" atmosphere.
I've considered college extensively... but, I've also considered going out for my certs, finding a job in this field (because around my area it's not a very apparent job), and seeing how I do... and then as I come to realize things I don't know, just pursue personal study and education to learn all of those things.
Maybe college one day... Maybe sooner than I know...
But forcing someone to go into college, forcing someone to do something they really have no immediate desire to do... stresses them, and pushes them away... which is usually the total opposite of what you are trying to accomplish.
GR
I'm pretty sure he understands that...
But, explaining something like a server (which can be complicated as it is) to someone who pretty much only knows how to say, play music, games, browse the internet and cut her computer on and off... something like a picture of a big rack mounted server may be a very good image metaphor for the average person who doesn't want or care too much about how a computer works, they just want it to work... that a server is complicated... but it's what makes the internet the internet...
GR
No... He means... "No (as in it won't break all the Macros he's written), macros still work fine (as in... they work)" Get your English straight, and learn to use punctuation... GR
Thank you, I've been waiting for someone to put it so perfectly...
GR