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Blizzard Hints At New StarCraft, Launches Burning Crusade

Game Developer Blizzard Entertainment's long-anticipated expansion to World of Warcraft has gone live. Initial impressions are ... not available, since all 8 million players are currently in the Outlands. I'll take that to mean the servers for the most part have not melted yet. At a Burning Crusade launch party, a Blizzard exec revealed we may see a new StarCraft game very soon. But today is all about WoW. If you're not playing, and want to live vicariously, check out WarCry's extensive preview of the expansion. You could read designer Jeff Kaplan's comments on new features at FiringSquad, or Shane Dibiri's talk of inspiration at Next Generation. One new expansion a year, eh? Some folks are already looking to the future, where we probably won't see WoW on consoles, but may see it with security dongles. 0.1% of the Earth's population can't all be wrong.

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  1. I'd have gotten first post... by SNR+monkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..but I was busy playing WoW

  2. Tag line from the theatrical trialer: by Lethyos · · Score: 5, Informative

    Your servers are not prepared!!

    Serious aside: once you get your copy, there is no need to run the installer from the discs. All you need is the key to upgrade your account using the provided key—you already have all the content as of the 2.0 patch series. If you run the installer, it rolls your local copy back to 2.0.3, and once you start the game, you would go through two patch cycles back to 2.0.5. Save yourself some time and just upgrade your account directly at https://upgrade.worldofwarcraft.com/expansion/.

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    1. Re:Tag line from the theatrical trialer: by XMunkki · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually there IS a need to install the CDs, as not all TBC content came with the patches (I suspect mainly the Outland regions). Don't know how it is in the US, but it's like this in the europe. It is true it will re-run a few patches after installing though.

      And yes, you can play the non-TBC regions with a normal unupgraded client even if you have activated TBC.

    2. Re:Tag line from the theatrical trialer: by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 4, Informative

      The European servers died at ten past midnight (the portal opened at midnight). After a server reboot they died *again* about 15 minutes later.

      Oh and blizz sent out a load of duff CDs (many people can't read CD4) and they sent out the wrong keys with the collectors edition so you can't get the 'exclusive' content unless you take a pair of scissors to your box and send bits of it to an address in France...

    3. Re:Tag line from the theatrical trialer: by The+Relentless · · Score: 3, Informative

      From the official forums and WoW:TBC FAQ: Will I need to install from the CD? Why? It will be necessary to have a Burning Crusade CD and a Burning Crusade authentication key in order to play The Burning Crusade expansion. There is content on the Burning Crusade CD that will need to be installed that was not included in the patches we recently released. Each account (in the event multiple are played by one person) will need its own copy of The Burning Crusade expansion to install the additional content, and be upgraded with the included authentication key.

  3. Outlands fun? Think again. by BelDion · · Score: 4, Informative

    Outlands is a gankfest right now and pretty much every quest mob is being camped...

    Plan B: grind in Winterspring.

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    1. Re:Outlands fun? Think again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      yeah i got my first kill->gather quest done right outside thrallmar last night. Outlands is teh awesome so far, I wouldn't waste much time in winterspring, no phat lewtz, plus I was getting 1000-1100 XP per mob for the lvl 60-61 mobs... The green drops are awesome, time to head back to Orgrimmar and put stuff on the AH for those who aren't level 60 or don't have the xpac yet... mwuhaha!

    2. Re:Outlands fun? Think again. by LordSnooty · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oooh, I wish I knew what all that meant.

    3. Re:Outlands fun? Think again. by FlopEJoe · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dude! You should have killed 65,340,285 boars in the forest to level up!

    4. Re:Outlands fun? Think again. by The+Raven · · Score: 3, Informative

      They are being camped... but they're respawning so fast it's not an issue. So I had to wait 2 minutes to kill a bossman to finish a quest... oh no. It's obvious that Blizzard tweaked the respawn rates far higher than you'd normally see; whether this is a permanent feature of the Outlands, or a temporary measure, I don't know. It can be disconcerting to kill a big bad bossman... and 30 seconds later he's respawned behind me, beating me in the back. Of course, within a few seconds another group of players has attacked him and pulled him off because they need him.

      So yes, it's crazy... but it's not frustrating. And some of it is truly spectacular... the bombing runs are some of the most (solo) fun I've had in WoW in ages. :-)

      The Raven

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  4. Grammar lobe broken. by Lethyos · · Score: 4, Funny

    All you need is the key to upgrade your account using the provided key...

    Brain not working. Late night last. Up, leveling new Blood Elf. Damned if they are not the gayest video game characters ever.

    Scrunchie? Scrunchie? Scrunchie!?

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  5. Sweet, sweet freedom! by airhed13 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You have no idea how glad I am that I finally don't care about this story. I uninstalled the game last weekend, and I've moved the CDs to my "never gonna play that game again" spindle in the back of my closet.

    That's one addiction that I'll never regret kicking.

    1. Re:Sweet, sweet freedom! by Mr.Scamp · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And yet you have carefully stored the disks. Rather like an alcoholic saying he's sober because he moved the liquor into a back closet.

    2. Re:Sweet, sweet freedom! by niconorsk · · Score: 5, Funny

      Congrats; I too am enjoying my extra life. Have you been eating green mushrooms again?
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  6. Gender observation. by Lethyos · · Score: 5, Funny

    For the first time ever, World of Warcraft players meet in public. In real life. This allowed us to collect some interesting data about the demographics. Out of nearly 50 people standing around the EB Games where I picked up my copy, I think four were girls. Just saying. Something to think about next time you /flirt.

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    1. Re:Gender observation. by mfender9 · · Score: 5, Funny
      Out of nearly 50 people standing around the EB Games where I picked up my copy, I think four were girls.

      If you only think they were girls, then I'm not terribly excited about them.

    2. Re:Gender observation. by Seng · · Score: 5, Funny

      I decided, just for fun, to run down to the local retailer to grab my copy (hell, they shut the servers down for the update just in time for me to get there at midnight!).

      I was a little surprised... Or maybe I shouldn't have been.

      The people standing behind me were SO obviously methheads (gaunt face, bleeding gums, rotting out teeth). There was one kid that was about 12 in there with his mother picking up a copy (wtf? On a school night? I hope to hell when my daughter's 12 I never lose my intelligence and find myself buying a game at 12 midnight with her on a school night!)

      The rest of the people were semi-normal - but about half of those looked like they could've used some personal hygiene lessons *grin*.

      I'm thinking it was the horde release location...

  7. Re:Starcraft? Dongles? by Microlith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Congratulations, you missed the point.

    The idea isn't to prevent piracy, but to provide some means of more secure authentication because people are getting their accounts "hacked" where "hacked" means they had an easily guessed username and password, or their machine is riddled with trojans and someone captured their password.

  8. Finally.. by zyl0x · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ..a new StarCraft game. It's been a while since I've seen anything that isn't WarCraft-related come out of that company. I know I'm not the only one that's eagerly awaiting more SC news.

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  9. Best line from the review: by guysmilee · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "All in all, this is more of the same ... "

    I have to tell you all that I absolutely hate this game. It is annoying and tedious ... and no I don't wanna join your bloody guild!

  10. 'Security Dongles' by Aladrin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    (Slashdot won't show me the reply links on replies now... So I'm starting a new post. Firefox2/Linux, btw.)

    So, is this the first time in the history of dongles that the 'security' provided by the dongle is for the USER and not the company? -boggle-

    I actually think this is a great idea, IF it's optional. Example:

    You buy New-RPG. You install New-RPG and plug in the dongle. At that point, you have the option to create a username and password, or use the dongle as your authentication mechanism. Later, if you want to change, you simply insert the dongle and go to the config and change it. (Needed to enable AND disable, for obvious reasons.)

    If (huge IF) I ever write an online game, I'm going to seriously consider this. I tend towards 'free' games, so I'd probably make it write the authentication to a USB drive.

    Thoughts: Lost/broken USB drive? Any backup means I can think of is another backdoor for a 'hacker'. (I use that term loosely.)
    Copied auth data? Use the hardware ID of the USB drive as part of the auth?
    Hacked executable to send any auth data they wish? Troublesome.

    At any rate, I'm astonished at the thought of a dongle actually protecting the user instead of the company.

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  11. Re:.1% of earth? by richdun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, he had it right - 8,000,000/6,000,000,000 = 0.0013333... or about 0.1%

  12. Re:Stop that by kitsunewarlock · · Score: 3, Informative

    Never mind, I was wrong: World of Warcraft's Subscriber Definition World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees' territories are defined along the same rules.

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  13. Burning Crusade flu? by galfridus73 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Gotta love it...

    I have two employees, both WoW players, who are out today with "the flu" (of course they both picked up their copies of BC at midnight and didn't come down with their illness until 4 or 5am...). ;)

    Anyone else have a similar situation?

  14. If your characters still exist... by StoatBringer · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...can I have all your gold?

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  15. Re:Got out, and thank heaven by Atheose · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Warcraft II was delayed, Warcraft III was delayed 4 years (original release date was Q4 1999, was pushed back to September 2003 to change the game engine to 3D), Diablo II and its eventual expansion were both also delayed, as well as the Brood War expansion for Starcraft.

    None of those had monthly fees; Blizzard has a history of delaying games in order to ensure that their customers get the best product available. Don't be so quick to assume the delay of Burning Crusade is just a conspiracy to milk more money out of subscribers.

  16. Re:Somehow, I just don't care by johnashby · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, you get: 7 new outland zones and 4 new Azerothian zones. Something like 15-20 new dungeons for everything from 5-man parties to 25-man raids 2 new races, complete with the final merger of the class differences between the factions Team arena PvP combat An entire new profession(Jewelcrafting) is not something to scoff at...it's a fairly major addition Now, 500 hours is not an insignificant amount of time, but consider that it takes 250 hours to get the average character to 60. Since you say you raided MC, I assume that was your only character since the other 250 hours were spent there, no doubt. The game's flavor changes significantly even when you do simple things like play a new class. This expansion is quite large...but I sympathize with your viewpoint. Given that we've paid $15 a month for 2 years, I'd think the disc should cost $20, or if it's $40 it should include a free month of playtime.

  17. Re:Yup, my wife too... by fitten · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Every time it's brought up, just start asking them how the grind is going. WoW, a great single player game with about 350 hours of play in it (only takes 13 days played to get to level 60... I did it several times) but after that, it's nothing but grind.

    Ask them how many crypt thing legs they've gotten on the way to the 1200 (gotten ~20 per trip into an instance) to get the 30 tokens needed to buy the stuff from the faction person *AFTER* you've killed the 1000s of mobs to get the faction to actually buy it.

    Or, how Blizzard nerfs the amount of honor you get from PvP because people are "earning it too fast".

    Or, ask them how many times they've done Molten core (Onyxia/BWL/ZG/etc) in the past month and how was it different every time.

    Pretty soon, they'll shut up and/or stop coming over.

  18. A new Starcraft? Great, I guess... by GodBlessTexas · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I guess that would be great if I were still interested. I got over Starcraft 6 years ago, and while I think it was the perfect RTS and had a very compelling story, I don't understand why they feel the need to come back to it now, after 10 years, for a sequel to a game with such a rabid following? I think it's impossible that it could be a better playing experience than the original or Brood War for multiplayer. Why is it that Blizzard can only seem to develop one game at a time when they certainly have the resources to do more? They have three solid gold game franchises, and two of them have languished for the better part of a decade: Starcraft for 9 years, and Diablo for 6. I can understand their commitment to quality, but it's not as if there aren't enough good developers, project managers, and producers out there to make a quality game.

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  19. Masters of Orion 2 by DarthVain · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Starcraft? I can't stop playing Masters of Orion 2! God I need sleep.

  20. 2008 if they rushed every aspect by Paralizer · · Score: 4, Insightful
    FTA:
    "As a Starcraft player I can tell you that I hope it wouldn't go a decade - we launched Starcraft in '98 - I hope it wouldn't go a decade before we stand here and celebrate the next Starcraft together," Itzik Ben Bassat told crowds gathered at World of Warcraft expansion The Burning Crusade's official launch event in London last night.
    Unless they've already done significant work on it, how are they even considering the possibility of shipping it by 2008? I think a development cycle for a blockbuster game takes years, 3 maybe 4, and this guy is talking 1-2?
  21. BE male gayness. by Lethyos · · Score: 3, Funny

    On a scale from average metrosexual to Richard Simmons, I would say Blood Elf males are somewhere around Tom Cruise, bordering on 80s Depeche Mode.

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